Dragons Dogma 2 News - Relationships, Exclusive Vocations, Body Type, Race, Map, Armor, Stats & More

[@Vagabond_Gaming]

I'm Korean. I've read the article and I dont know how it became a thing but the translation is completely wrong. It just says that there are two vocations that you can mix for the arisen. So, I'm saying again. It's a translation error and there are no special vocations for pawns.

[@noncompulsoryl]

Thanks for clearing that up!

[@feetyeet8538]

Jesus is the only way to heaven Being a good person won’t get you there. “Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” ‭‭John‬ ‭14‬:‭6‬ ‭ESV Repent from your sin(disobedience to God) and turn to God and follow Him so that you will be saved “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” ‭‭1 John‬ ‭1‬:‭9‬ ‭ESV‬‬ “No, I tell you; but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.” ‭‭Luke‬ ‭13‬:‭3‬ ‭ESV

[@noncompulsoryl]

​@@feetyeet8538in combination with that profile pic, this is perfectly creepy.

[@Moonlight__vibes]

@@feetyeet8538you’re in the wrong video pal

[@Dantics]

Thanks for clearing this up!

[@BriskyPenguin]

armor nerf is the biggest gripe I have. Yeah if you were a nerd you chose the stuff with the best stats, but if you actually cared about customization then the layered armors offered so much more variety. I don't understand how taking away slots is giving players more variety. I just hope it's not just color swaps. The layered armor let you go for any look you could want.

[@zharpain]

Indeed. If anything it would reduce variety unless there are a lot of endgame armours with similar stats then most people are still going to pick from like 3-4 sets at best. It would be the reverse in DDDA where every pawn seems to have the Queen's Clothing amour equipped until like level 30 when you start seeing different amours pop in.

[@Neonmirrorblack]

I think the "pawn exclusive vocations" was just a translation error, and they simply meant pawn specific vocations. Meaning, they are limited to specific vocations and cannot access all that the player can. Just like in the original.

[@robcampion9917]

It'll probably be like the first one where the pawns couldn't use the hybrid vocations.

[@hollow6665]

I’m a little upset about the under armour and outer armour changes but I need to see it before I judge it

[@joshvaughn9978]

Kind of a bummer about the vocations, but it sounds like they are alluding to vocations in dlc and they also haven’t shown to pawn exclusive vocations so i guess we get to look forward to that!

[@joshvaughn9978]

@thunderdrae7749 I have the feeling they are alluding to that. Just doesn’t make sense the way they set it up

[@CabageBeans]

Yeah, idk why people are acting as if DLC is new to Capcom. The thing is, nobody ever has anything to say about the DLC in their games because they always are consistent in quality. I don't mind DLC vocations as long as they aren't overpriced.

[@MTREDHEADS]

Don't be too sure. Itsuno loves not spoiling major things. His quotes are pretty open ended too if you look at them. Eurogamer just likes to jump the gun.

[@Buckship]

Pawn exclusive vocation are a traslation error. There aren't any pawn exclusive vocations

[@ninetailedfox579121]

​@@MTREDHEADS The quote from this video was not open ended at all.

[@drefranks691]

"there are only 10 vocations" *me who wont be switching and will main 1 class on a playthrough* "great that is 10 playthroughs!"

[@paledrake]

There only being 1 save slot is incredibly stupid. I remember playing the original on PS4 and not being able to make a 2nd character because there only being 1 save file and having to delete my old svae for a fresh playthrough. Thankfully I'm getting the game on pc so I'd just be able to copy/paste the save file and switch them in/out to have multiple runs.

[@brandoncomer6492]

I'm not sure I quite agree with your interpretation of the armor system change. "Simplification" rarely increases variety. Sounds like a spin answer to me.

[@IlIlllIIIllIIlIIlII]

yup, the inner/outer system was perfect for variety, so many combinations. same thing happened to Elder Scrolls, it makes it a lot easier for the artists I guess

[@natbvm1880]

I’m super bummed about the news about less customization options, but if they’ve designed it so not every pawn is wearing the same dumb armor at the end of the game, then that’s an improvement. I wish I could choose my gloves and boots though. That was almost my favorite part of the first game.

[@Nephibis]

They mentioned during the livestream you could get glasses, so I'm guessing they are saying only 2 slots for stats, but the rest are cosmetic.

[@timewarrior7298]

​@@Nephibisthat makes sense, probably a thing that just didn't translate well, or it just wasn't said well, if that's then it's fine

[@zharpain]

@@Nephibis I hope so.

[@technopunk8429]

I don't care about 30 fps or only 10 vocations I'm just really hype for the game can't wait to play it and have fun just hope everyone has fun too + i think we are getting more vocations or dlc so can't wait for march 22 to have fun 😊

[@ArthurPendragon8666]

Honestly same man, this game is literally everything I’ve ever wanted to have in a fantasy game. I’m just super scared about the frame rate, I hope the game feels and looks well regardless of that because there’s literally not a single thing that I haven’t liked so far about this game . I’m super hyped too. I’m looking forward to go full knight armor with a claymore/greatsword

[@davidmthorley]

Yeah I don’t get the obsession with framerate. I’ve been playing the first games for years at 30fps without it hurting my enjoyment. I’m just hyped that we are finally getting a sequel to the first game.

[@lolife74]

Facts

[@babayaga4320]

I don't even know what fps the games I play are, unless I accidentally just stumble on the information. I just want to play great games at any fps. The fps discussion in recent years has gotten ridiculous, people acting like their super gamer eyes can't even play at 30 fps lol. Clown talk.

[@ebabilg]

Personally fps is a big thing for me from 30 to 60. I haven't really seen and played higher fps so I can't comment on that, but yeah. I also play fighting games and 60fps has been a standard for years now. Comparing 30 to 60 is massive if you're attuned to it, it just looks and feels much better with the smoother animations.

[@AKS-666]

I hope relationships are better than in the first game. There wasn’t such a thing as “relationships “ but in the end the dragon talks about your “big love” and people were wondering why they suddenly somehow were engaged to a certain questgiver. 🤣

[@MisterCynic18]

It's just a jape, friend! Just a jape!

[@GauteAnimationNorway]

I kinda hope they give a setting to lock on if you're straight or not, let's just say I don't want any unpleasant surprises 😆

[@FlowerKnight2]

10 Vocations is plenty imo, but I'm sorry to everyone who wanted Mystic Knight to return :( Hopefully it'll return in the future.

[@showoftimes9318]

Maybe they will add MK and some other vocations late on for a dlc or expansion

[@aazaadgass]

I wanted monk

[@iuliuslovin37]

@FlowerKnight2 yeah maybe later for a DLC, maybe they need to think about it how to make it work and maybe even better than one before, had some problems in the original, the whole preparation was boring and slow before every encounter

[@HyouVizer]

it was my physical main too. Mostly like gonna charge extra being in an expansion later meh

[@DuggyDarko]

It's literally been incorporated into fighter and mystic spearhand. People just love to cry about anything these days. Guarantee if they included MK you'd have people complaining that they should have given us a new class instead.

[@ofnir123]

I don't dare to judge ANYTHING before I actually play it. I loved the original DD to death even though in my eyes it seemed simple at the time, so even if some features come or go, before playing I really can't tell how I'll react to them

[@gregoryhoffert4179]

the only thing that I don't like right now is the change to the armor system, I liked the fact that there was clothing and armor. It makes more sense and makes the game feel more immersive since layering is what we do IRL.

[@zacharyhodge2036]

The armor system is a massive fucking let down

[@cobalt968]

Allegedly there is some sort of armor customization system in place that allows you to modify certain aspects of each armor piece, like adding or subtracting pauldrons from plate or customizing cloth segments on robes. But still, it would’ve been nice to have the older system in place. I hope that the new system is good enough for customization purposes. Fashion’s Dogma was one of the funnest parts of the game, stats be damned.

[@StyleshStorm]

@@cobalt968 the worst part is Capcom banned all kids on PC because Street Fighter 6 community got too horny and ruined it for all of us who play other Capcom games.

[@collapsiblechair9112]

Dunno, the great character creation makes up for the lack of armour customization for me at least.

[@Mohgenstein]

Fr, downgraded for no damn reason.

[@WompaStompaCyn]

The reasoning for it doesn't even make any sense. It sounds like they gutted the whole system just to stop people from putting silk lingerie on everything.

[@mjad833]

1 save slot hurts when your someone that loves making multiple characters to play through at the same time

[@craftyblaine6568]

If your playing the the ps5 you can use different accounts to play a new save file. Added bonus you can hire your other accounts pawn. It is sad you cant have multiple saves but they didnt want to flood their severs with a crazy amount of pawns lol

[@Dylis]

@@craftyblaine6568 That is not why there is one save slot. Pawns could be idled on there end if that was going to blow up there servers. It has everything to do with save scumming and gameplay manipulation that comes with being able to make multiple saves. Having 1 save will make you think more before making certain decisions which is what they are aiming for. They want you to think more before making specific decisions that will make more of an impact when you can't just pop back to an earlier save if you regret making the decision you made. There is always a way around it though, multiple accounts, or backing up your save on a flash drive on PS or folder on PC, then overriding it.

[@dragnarok4286]

@@Dylis Thats stupid i hate that logic its up to the player how they will play the game if they want to save scum then let them its their playthrough it doesn't affect anyone but them i would have preferred to quick load in dragons dogma when i was clicking through the dialogue and when it closed i accidentally miss clicked and attacked the guy which put me in jail

[@Dylis]

@@dragnarok4286 I don't disagree with you at all, I'm not a fan of this logic either. Leave it to the players, if you trust your design philosophy and game then you shouldn't need to handicap players into what you want them to or not to do. Either way I think there will be a work around, may not be a fast option but will work. At the same time modders will most likely deal with this swiftly on the PC end. I am a save scummer myself, but I have a full time job and 2 kids so I do it for time constraint purposes lol. I don't have the luxury of putting in endless amount of hours into games anymore.

[@julienschittenhelm7023]

​​@@MyDearGhoul to me it makes no sense to create a Gandalf like character, and then make him become Aragorn mid-game because I want to try to play a warrior... That.. makes no sense. I don't want my pure mage, old and wise all of a sudden becomimg a young warrior... I want to be able to play both characters in different games. If Skyrim had a one save slot, the game would have died long ago... Let the players decide for f**k sake...🤦

[@Swordmaster757]

I do wish that they implemented a transmog system that allows you to put a layered appearance that you like best over your actual statted armor.

[@tannerweinheimer7839]

Transmog is very immersion breaking IMO. Part of the fun in a game can actually be making decisions on what to wear with style being a factor for some and a non-issue for others. Go wear your favorite aesthetic! If you want it to also be the best armor in the game, you might as well just use console commands to cheat!

[@gmark247]

@@tannerweinheimer7839 Transmog is the best way to let players live their fantasy outfits. When I find a fancy looking outfit, I want that look on my character. Too much armor is bloated in my opinion, I do not want to spend hours min maxing every chest piece I've just unlocked at lvl 30. For me, it's either transmog with fewer armor or a lot of armor but very low effect on the game stats like in Elden Ring.

[@me5969]

​@@tannerweinheimer7839"allyness saves lives" as the British army say. Translated into civvie it means looking cool in your kit is more important than it being practical.

[@Swordmaster757]

@@tannerweinheimer7839 If you played the dark arisen version of the first game, most endgame pawns were in carrion/grave, immortal, shadow of hell dusk armor. Most pawns looked almost identical. Half the pawns didn't even have their appearance shown due to the helmets or veils. Even the alternatives were mostly the same in appearance. Early game, many players wore jester's hat or princess robe. Transmog system, in my opinion doesn't ruin anything. It just presents another option. On top of that, it's always optional. To me, it allows you the possibility of having every item you collected be an option to mix and match things however you choose without ruining your stats. Besides, in a world of sorcery, magic, illusionary magic and mythical beasts, it makes sense that some people (blacksmiths/armor smiths/etc) have skills that are non combat related. Transmog system can be one of those non combat abilities that some people have.

[@prestonwade4619]

Only 10 vocations man....I'm still gonna enjoy the game But I was interested to see what the advanced vocations for thief and archer where gonna be oh well.

[@Ares38D]

Me too I hope there is an advanced vocation for the thief, I plan to play a thief.

[@prestonwade4619]

@@Ares38D yea if assassin was in the game I'd go thief but I plan on maining warfarer once I find it. Going use warrior thief and ranger

[@chrispalmer6804]

@@prestonwade4619 from what i heard assassin and strider were merged into the thief

[@Alldayanyday1OnThePS4]

I hate that save slots is still ONLY 1 save only :( I literally made 4 PSN accounts so I could have my own specific pawn builds AND I genuinely never liked the stat growth, my first playthrough was fine as I didn't know about the stat growth, but once I realized that specific vocations increase specific stats more than others, then I would start playing vocations i didn't care to play just to gain stats that I wanted.

[@soldierbreed]

Yeah i can't believe they honestly brought this back.

[@mercstory]

It doesn’t really bother me on min-maxing my main as I can ignore most of it, but I can see how this will affect my pawn’s effectiveness and popularity.

[@Alldayanyday1OnThePS4]

yeah, i mean i was speedrunning a lot in DD:DA through BBI and offline UR Dragon (cant speedrun online UR Dragon because it's just impossible to since he had billions of HP and was scaled for online save progression) so minmaxing for me was pretty important but overall it doesnt matter too much, but yeah for the popularity of pawns, pawns will get picked based on how their stats are and everything. @@mercstory

[@neonthehedgehog12]

No Mystic knight is such a let down for me you don't even know.

[@figuures6098]

I’m with you. I’m just hoping fighter absorbed some its playstyle or abilities outside of just getting maces. If not, I’ll build a warfarer to mimic that playstyle, using shield/greatsword/twinspear

[@adjustingmythreshold233]

@@figuures6098it’s funny how I have no interest in the newer classes. I’m also bummed about no Mystic Knight. I wanna give myself abyssal anguish, and full moon slash my great cannon. I feel like dd2 will have a better story, actually be difficult, and be loads of fun, but I’ll just be thinking about mystic knight the entire time.

[@neonthehedgehog12]

@@adjustingmythreshold233 Same, for how flashy the spear hand is i have no interest. It being so new may have caught everyone's attention, but if you played any other game twin blades they are everywhere, especially if your a star wars fan. It's overrated imo and was only introduced to cater to all the DMC fans that inevitably come to the series. I don't even have that much of a problem with it being here but why did they have to go as far as to replace Mystic Knight for it?

[@neonthehedgehog12]

@@figuures6098 I feel like adding Warfarer is the reason Itsuno felt it was okay to replace Mystic Knight, because "technically" you get the same function with the right weapons, but it's not the same also it will be weaker because of stat threshold on Warfarer. It's gonna bring my mood down playing knowing i don't like any of the other classes and my fav is gone, i'm stuck with a Fighter my entire playthrough.

[@adjustingmythreshold233]

@@neonthehedgehog12 I’ll still put like 3k hours into it and luckily I also love warrior. Hopefully we get more vocations in the future.

[@inkmage4084]

I really hope there is a huge dungeon, like Bitter Black Isle, but bigger and nastier.

[@AggressiveSushi]

I’m happy to be playing on PC so the armor nerf won’t effect us for long

[@zharpain]

Here's hope the modders can gift us with great delights.

[@Hothrus]

I really don’t understand why some games just refuse to have a transmog system. That alone would go a long way in solving the visual variety.

[@Sevren_]

Because the transmog system is trash

[@paledrake]

@@Sevren_Then don't use it? It's a single player game, it won't impact you much anyway. And if you don't like how a certain pawn looks just pick another one or one of the game pawns.

[@collapsiblechair9112]

despite all the negatives around the game right now, why do people have to dwell on them?, I'm excited. The game is gonna be awesome, just like the first one.

[@wingzero9813]

If it's true that the 10 vocations are it, then I'm saddened by the loss of Mystic Knight. In Dragon's Dogma, that class was my jam.

[@esper2776]

Apparently fighter has some Mystic Knight skills. So not completely gone

[@Z1pZ1p3r]

Dragons Dogma had 9 and that is a good number. 10 sounds awkward even. Number of vacations = Multiple of 3 sounds way better.

[@silverrealm2945]

I've always liked the idea of all monsters being more difficult as you level up, but at different rates. Like Goblins would still become stronger, but would become stronger much slower than a Cyclops.

[@wasabilassabe6936]

I think they're saying they're only revealing 10 at the moment. I can't see why they would add a few new vocations but remove classic mixed ones like Mystic Knight.

[@tidusrodriguez5096]

Bro release is just around the corner. We aren't getting more vocations at launch or they'd be announced already.

[@juanvaldivia8001]

It's been confirmed that Mystic Spearhand is the new Mystic Knight, we can already see that's the new Red+Blue vocation, gonna really miss the parry playstyle of MK tho :'C

[@Mohgenstein]

Itsuno said it’s 10 so it’s 10, no if or buts about it.

[@GoddessCynthia]

They removed them bc they’re going towards a direction of each vocation having it’s own unique weapon type. it’s why duospear and censer now exist.

[@warriorblade9092]

​@@GoddessCynthia The mystic knight did have a unique weapon type it uses a magick shield. And a mace or sword. Me I prefer sword.

[@Radagon759]

Single Character save slot and 30 FPS are the main things that disappoint me a little. This is a fairly large role-playing game, that can take 100 hours to complete. The ability to have only one character at a time, in my opinion, negatively affects replayability, since sometimes you want to start a new game and experiment without losing the old character. Why couldn't they make a save system like in Dark Souls Series, Bloodborne and Elden Ring?! I don't see any smart game design decision in this, just an unnecessary artificial limitation that prevents a person from playing the way he wants in a rather expensive Single-player game!

[@ryanmulder3610]

Maybe they will add the feature in a few months?

[@luckybutler6566]

Getting rid of under armor is devastating news to us fashions dogma enjoyerd

[@BeetleSkyGames]

For the scaling difficulty thing, it’s something Capcom has been using since RE4 Original. They always have a difficulty cap you you’ll still be able to feel like a god. Honestly most people don’t notice the scaling feature is there.

[@Batboy_915]

I hope we'll be able to change the dynamic difficulty setting based on skill, like we can in Balder's Gate 3. In the first one, you get owned by enemies (especially the big ones) until you learn their weaknesses and "git gud". So we shouldn't be penalized for getting good at the game.

[@nebulous798]

No amount of mental gymnastics can convince me that one save slot is not beyond dumb game design in 2024...

[@MoonIitStroll]

Removing under/over layer of clothing is actually terrible for all the people who focused more on fashion than stats. What I would have liked is (and I know a lot of people hate that but it's good for fashion) Transmog.

[@Behindthejab]

If it’s anything like the first game, particularly on higher difficulties, you go sorcerer then you go magic archer because range is king and a lot of the things in the game, particularly at night need magic to hurt it

[@fishium]

I'm so excited for this game because it will be such a fresh experience

[@NaSMaX]

I swear transmog should be the standard of all RPGs.

[@eamoncole5778]

Hey hey hey, misleading for the vocations, we will get more they had translations issues so down descredit just yet.

[@zachdillenger5468]

Where is the original post, ai can read the language so I rather just confirm it for myself

[@Mohgenstein]

I guess multiple websites mistranslated since multiple asked and were given this answer. Weapon grade copium tbh.

[@eamoncole5778]

@@Mohgenstein bro your everywhere on this channel making comments on everything. Go play Elden ring or something and leave people alone your nothing but a pest to others

[@Mohgenstein]

@@eamoncole5778 Cry harder that dragons dogfart will be arse😢

[@eamoncole5778]

@@Mohgenstein that's not the name of the game so I can make a good guess and say that you're delusional. Throwing out slang words cause you can't make a good counter argument. Get a life and do something good with it. Have a wonderful day none the less.

[@soldierbreed]

Dear god we are still doing this one character thing. I shouldn't have to delete my character just to do a fresh run.. literally the only thing i hate about the first game

[@Hambs23]

10 vocations? That's, odd, to say the least. Although, I think I understand. In DD1, some vocations could use the same weapons as another, but now they seem to be doing a single unique weapon per vocation. Yes, Mages and Sorcerers use different weapons, the Staff and Archistaff respectivelly. Warfarer seems to be either the remedy or the reason for that, bringing an even more versatile and easy to use playstyle that some vocations had. However what's odd to me is that only half the base vocations have their advanced versions. There's no mixed vocation with Green, and Yellow and Red only have 1 each. Half of them are magic focused, not including Warfarer. The only physical ranged option would be Archer. And Thief is the only Green vocation. I know they said "base game", but even so, I at least hope there's more variety to each vocation. Cuz while in DD1 pretty much all of them were viable, a lot of the skill variety came from being able to equip different weapons, and having unique skills to a vocation when using the same weapons.

[@lenajohnson6179]

you heard it here folks, minmax your characters with gaga gorilla arms!

[@paledrake]

And don't you dare switch vocations unless you're forced to play something wildly different for a few levels to gain decent stat growth!

[@Vetteracer13]

Lots of his ideas sound great in theory but I don’t think they’re going to correlate into “fun” for gamers. But I guess we’ll see!

[@adamthompson6669]

Thank you for covering this my mouth is watering I can’t wait 😛 ❤🎉 and going to make my pawn a strong female warrior named Lydia (after my bestie and wifey Skyrim 😉 😝) looking forward to this game and happy I bought the first one dark arisen on sale and love it. As a single player fan who enjoys companions it’s great. 👍. And I still go back to Starfield here and there but waiting for updates dlc, console mods etc. thanks again

[@Dantics]

Lydia is a good idea for a pawn actually! Thanks for coming!

[@marcosfernandesdesousajuni9576]

What about the opening song though? It better be at least as epic as Into Free or a remake!

[@guisergestalt9510]

Sadly we won't get that again, you'll have to pull the song up before you start the game up and watch the opening

[@EvgGaar]

Wait you can adjust the body parameters during the game, after the character has been created?? I'm mostly interested in the Mystic Spearhand and Warrior vocations, not sure if the same body size/height/weight fits both of these.......

[@ryvyr]

Since the Arisen cannot be an Elf :( It will be annoying gaging whether better to have Pawn know Woodland Speech or specialize in looting (which they did fine in DD1) or exploiting elemental weaknesses in combat. All considered this feels like unnecessary grief in design.

[@azatheeverchosen7615]

I wish Itsuno would address why the fuck they chose to prioritise the furry race over a modern fantasy staple..... Like, do they even realise how many people they pissed off by excluding elves from CC?

[@brandonjenkins2836]

30 fps and only having 10 vocations is 100 percent fine with me. Tired of seeing all these ass hats complaining about this and that. I just wanna play this game! I, like many others have been waiting for this game since I played the first. Come on March 22nd!

[@mexicanhammer3713]

The frame rate will be addressed when it releases and the game play was off of a older version of the game

[@Vital_Remnant2356]

It seems a little strange that we aren't going to get anymore vocations. We know that Warrior and Mage have advanced vocations, so does this mean that archer and thief won't receive any? And what about Trickster, which is apparently supposed to be a hybrid vocation? Is it a mix of vocations that don't exist?

[@tj3423]

The one thing I'm really bummed about is only 4 armour slots. And the quote about why they did this makes no sense at all. Why would having 4 slots instead of 7 increase the variety of looks? It's literally less customization. And how does this make people have more variety at end game? That's related to stats on the gear, not the number of pieces of gear. This feels like him trying to spin a negative into a positive, they probably only did it in order to simplify the process of crating armour on the development side. But this is massively disappointing to me because having 7 slots you could mix and match was a huge aspect of the first game that I loved. And collecting all the armour in the game and making different outfits was part of my endgame loop that kept me putting hour into the game.

[@tynorstrom2761]

The characters look so intriguing, i hope qe get extensive scenes with them

[@renamoda5450]

7:39 Strength in numbers,arisen.

[@zharpain]

I am going to miss the multi layers for armour.

[@Zoretsu]

Kinda sucks that thief and archer dont get an advanced vocation and

[@chrispalmer6804]

i heard the assassin and strider were merged into the thief

[@joe7park]

Can you please share where you got the picture of the women in your thumbnail. Is this a custom character slider you can share?

[@prestonmccoy7097]

I can’t lie. The only 10 vocations thing is a BIG let down for me. I’m still overall excited, but I thought there’d at least be maybe one or two more vocations. I did not think they’d showcase very class before the game came out. The vocations must have a lot of depth if they’re going with only 10 and showing all of them already.

[@BlackWinds]

It doesnt make sense why they'd wouldn't have direct advanced vocations for thief and archer at launch but do for fighter and mage. I mean you got the mystic archer hybrid vocation, but theif doesnt have any direct advanced or hybrid classes. Trickster seems like something completely seperate from theif. Really hoping they just arent going to "announce" any more vocations and not that these are the only 10 in the game at launch.

[@kwahn1000]

Thief Vocation Having No Advance Vocation Being Announced Yet Is Pretty Disappointing For Me… Hope The Class Makes Up For It With Potential Damage Output & Skills

[@historiewarteuwagi]

Hmm so maybe it will reach 50-60 FPS for consoles with 1080p, because I suppose demo versions for the press was 4K. Smaller res should have huge impact on frames.

[@liquid1514]

it should reach 50-60fps with just 1440p considering it was able to reach 40fps on 4k

[@MarceloSoares-sp4gc]

Only one character slot is a shame

[@stonaraptor8196]

why? It's intended to have only 1 save slot. No save scumming.

[@MarceloSoares-sp4gc]

@@stonaraptor8196 fuck save scumming I talking about making more characters

[@stonaraptor8196]

I mean you can just make a backup and swap save files in the games folder in case you are on pc. Worked finein the first game. But yeah, multiple character slots would have been nice.@@MarceloSoares-sp4gc

[@exxy9931]

I'm not sure which hurts more. The fact we're still stuck to a single save file or the fact we lose primary/secondary weapon classes for single weapon-focused classes.

[@juanvaldivia8001]

"Currently we have 10 vocations announced" sounds more like a future DLC, very dissapointing imo. I mean, I understand there's only one save file at a time again so having many vocations to diversify different characters isn't that viable, since you're loosing your original save, and that Archer is basically Ranger, that also Thief is part Strider part Assasin, but stil, would have been cool to at least have Mystic Knight again, Mystic Spearhand could have perfectly been Thief+Mage vocation, specially considering how they teased a special inventory section for shields in game

[@Double-A5]

I have a question about stats. Say you play from lvl 1 to 100 as a physical damage only vocation but then decide that you want to try sorcerer. Would your stats change to what a level 100 sorcerer would have? Or would you just be a magic user with the stats of a fighter? I know once you switch vocations your stat growth will change from that point on but was just wondering if stats would adjust so you don't have super low magicka if you've only played physical damage classes previously.

[@DANCERcow]

Your stats would change to level 100 sorcerer. Meaning no min maxing and no mix and matching stat growth with different vocations. So having 100 warrior with 4000 health and switching to sorcerer would switch the level 100 stats to that of the sorcerer's level 100 stat spread thus decreasing the health pool since you are no longer the warrior with the largest health pool growth!

[@jideoforojukwu4263]

No, and honestly, idk why you'd want that. It trivializes the stat system. You won't be able to mix and match different stat growths from the various classes, which opens up from unique builds. If you want a balanced character for magic and physical damage, just play mystic spear hand. It should allow you to dance between the two. So, to answer your question, if you want to play 100 levels as a warrior/fighter, your stats will remain as just that. You'll have to play as a sorcerer to build up your magic on top of the stats you already gained as a warrior. However, It won't be as high as someone who leveled exclusively as a magic user from level 1 to 100. Pick your vocations wisely and plan ahead. I do hope for a slightly higher level cap, though. It leaves more room for variety or min/maxing.

[@jideoforojukwu4263]

​@@DANCERcow that's not at all what this means. It's the same as dragons dogma 1

[@guisergestalt9510]

@@jideoforojukwu4263 It's not the same as Dragons Dogma 1, they've altered how it works in 2, if you levelled a warrior to 100 and then changed to a sorcerer the stats will alter as if you had levelled to 100 on sorcerer, it's a new quality of life change they've made for 2.

[@Bravadorado]

@@jideoforojukwu4263 Rurikhan confirmed that when he changed vocations, his base stats changed. It wouldn't make sense when you consider the Warfarer's lowered stats. You will no longer need to follow a leveling path to have the stats you want. And that's a good thing. As a player, you should be able to try the various vocations out without being punished for it, especially when you only have one save file. And you shouldn't have to play a Mage for 100 levels so you have high magic damage on your Mystic Spearhand.

[@welton9748]

About dating pawns... no, you can't do that. You will learn the reason soon in the game

[@christophersanders7877]

I'm excited for the game but there are many design decisions that have me a little worried. The 1 save slot is stupid imo and they could very easily make it like many Souls-likes were there are multiple save slots but the game still auto saves your actions you you can't retry them unless you re-roll another character. This makes me wonder if this will be an elden Ring expereince where I playthrough once and never touch it again, or will I ahve the urge to create a new character from scratch, buy will ahve to delete my old save. Regarding stat growth I have heard conflicting information, as some say stats are tied ONLY to the volcation your playing, so the the aspect of optimizing your build/class by leveling other classes to boost a certain stat for your main class is supposivily not in this game (I don't know who is right or wrong about this). I would prefer the old system because otherwise stat growth feels meaningless, as you have a preset number of stat points at every level up, so your warrior at level 20 will have the EXACT same stats as anothers warrior at level 20, so wheres the RPG, in only the skills/augments? Regarding difficulty I am also worried as I much perfer set level areas that can be overleveled, and if they wanted to keep that area interesting they could add newer/harder enemies at a later point in the game (like DD1 postgame). I am also a little disappointed in the vocation number but I hope this means individual vocations can have much more depth then they did in DD1. Overall I am still optimistic about the game and I am still looking forward to it in a few weeks.

[@Aetheroth]

Regarding the save slots: I don't think it works the way you say i.e. you have to delete your old save for a new character. From the video, I get the impression that it will be like games such as Elden Ring in which you have only one slot per character. I believe that every time you save, you will be overwriting the previous save. This way, you don't get to save-scum (like you would be able to do with Skyrim's save system) or load a save from 10 hours ago to redo a quest that ended badly from wasted time.

[@christophersanders7877]

@@AetherothIf its like that I'm cool with it but it sounded more like some modern games were there is only ONE save period and if that is the case then that is just bad game design for an RPG.

[@Aetheroth]

@@christophersanders7877 Yeah, one save only is very bad design. I played a game like that once but I can't remember which one. Here's hoping they don't do that here. I agree with your original post that this design discourages replaying the game. I might never get around to playing a Beastren if they only give us one slot overall, and might end up restarting my game after 35-50% completion in the name of having a good file.

[@zachdillenger5468]

The old system for stats was overly tedious and frankly insane. Making you play over 150 levels in a class you don't want to use but have to, you got to be nutz to prefer that

[@guisergestalt9510]

@@Aetheroth I disagree strictly due to the fact that the pawn system is a large part of this game, even when you're not playing the game your pawn is potentially being recruited by another player and earning knowledge, if you were allowed multiple saves then that would mean you would have multiple pawns, multiple pawns saturating the online space. With a single save and a single pawn it makes me have to think about the choices i make in selecting the skills and vocation of my pawn because he's my representation, people are going to vote on how helpful he was and that will potentially up his score and get him chosen more often. Also the majority of the people that played DD1 went into newgame+ multiple times, one save doesn't decrease the replayability of the game, a lot of people are going to want to get all of the Grigori weapons which for 10 vocations means 10 playthroughs, 2 play throughs if you want to get dragonforged gear for both you and your pawn, there are also certain choices within the game where if you choose one choice over another you may be rewarded differently. I don't know if we will get a variation of Everfall for endgame but that's another thing that increased the replayability, in the everfall there are a certain amount of chests with RNG on certain equipment appearing, you get all the chests and then go into newgame+ to get to that area again and have another chance. Newgame+ you are allowed to alter both the appearance of you and your pawn so you can easily just change to Beastren for one of the playthroughs.

[@romthale6493]

Gonna be honest I’ll be a little sad if that info is wrong, personally I enjoyed the idea of my pawn being able to have their own exclusive vocations, I thought it was a mistake to bring back the arisen exclusive ones, I think for all the focus they put into developing their ai it was a pretty large restriction on them in contrast.

[@Sushityphoon01]

Honestly I'd like 60 fps on console but 30 is not a deal breaker for me at all the game will be incredible regardless imo.

[@DarienJDees]

Aww... I wanted to be an elf SO bad. Oh well 😅

[@azatheeverchosen7615]

I wish Itsuno would address why the fuck they chose to prioritise the furry race over a modern fantasy staple..... Like, do they even realise how many people they pissed off by excluding elves from CC?

[@djstef4549]

10 vocations is plenty idk of any other game where you can make 10 different builds

[@yoredrag-onight4204]

I could care less about 30 frames or vocation count, I am far too busy celebrating how much new shit we get to experience and that DD was revived after so long waiting and huffing copium thinking it be lost in the sea of other IPs. It feels like a dream to be alive to see a revival sequel to my top favorite game besides Armored Core and I can only hope Lost Planet will be next to come home from its long absence. I see myself playing this for many many months and years after release just taking pics and just reveling in that RE Engine cooking.

[@BerryNiceToMeetYou]

Couldn't care less*

[@MarineCARMINE]

No mystic knight or ranger and assassin makes me sad. Mostly no mystic knight and ranger. I will need to figure out the stat growths so I can make a good hybrid build so I can play any class well.

[@lucaeduardo752]

Stats change when u pick a diff vocation, so you can play what u want w no consequence

[@MarineCARMINE]

@@lucaeduardo752 Really? That sounds great and also terrible at the same time lol.

[@Mohgenstein]

@@MarineCARMINE nah it’s good. You still have to unlock the skills, find viable weapons, upgrade weapons. Not like they’re won’t be a sense of progression. No need to needlessly grind back up the vocation just to be viable again.

[@guisergestalt9510]

Thief is essentially the new Assassin, it has some of the assassin skills from DD1

[@MarineCARMINE]

@@guisergestalt9510 It does? I must have missed that detail.

[@AMBATUKAM11111]

modders will add more save slots.

[@benturtl9076]

Good background music

[@gregwright615]

Any word on if having maximum booty size increases NPC affinity gain?

[@Dantics]

I sure as hell hope so!

[@namarie.2289]

I have a question, me and my friend want each others pawns in the game. My question is should we make each others characters as our main pawn or should we just import each others characters as side pawns or whatever

[@TimmySquibs]

I mean you could do either but I’d suggest using each others actual pawns instead. It’d be easier to attach to them instead of just having your homies character controlled by computer

[@randomrhino7500]

Pawn will have exclusive. Class and we only have 10 class mix mixed messages?

[@nathenlamar3023]

Gotta be a mistranslation at least on the 2nd one, probably meant they aren't announcing the others before the game comes out, because they already said there will be more and that they are ones that none of us would guess

[@shemseddine7547]

i'm excited for the gmae but 30fps.... .I can't even play at 60fps anymore, it feels so slow.

[@ArthurPendragon8666]

Slow? I thought higher frame rate made everything feel slower since is smoother and there’s no teleporting/stuttering with the animations ?

[@awesomelegend3569]

Nope other way around fps = higher speed

[@shemseddine7547]

Depends on your perspective.

[@johannesnagengast7643]

Couldn’t care less about fps.

[@shemseddine7547]

@@johannesnagengast7643 then play with 1fps

[@raventhorX]

Im a computer guy abd im confused about what uncapped framerste means. Always thought that meant like vsync or something or when your framerste is capped that it doesnt go higher than a certain framerate so what the hell does uncapped 30fps even mean? Are they trying to say it can go above 30 but the target is not 60 or something?

[@me5969]

Yeah basically. If there's not much going on then it will probably be around 45 or something but when you're in a crowded city or there's loads of enemies on screen then it will dip to around 30

[@skyuru]

The worst news for me its that they removed an feature that was unique in DD: "Rather than having an inner and outer, we divided the equipment for the upper half of the body and the lower half of the body." So we cant wear anymore our characters as we want...but we are forced to change and we cant even have optional armor slots, even inner slot...i lost my motivation to play this game...i hate when armors are fused...

[@JustxLiving909]

Want some ice cream ?

[@skyuru]

@@JustxLiving909 some bikini armor pls.

[@ArthurPendragon8666]

They did that to add more armor variations , in exchange from less armor slots (although we now have a cape as a piece of armor ) we will get more different armors in the game , they’ll be more “content” as per say in the armor/outfit department. Less assets put into the layered system and more assets put into having more armors

[@Lancia444]

Yeah I do miss the fact DD would allow you to change your under-padding. It was very realistic to the theme too....padding under armour increases effectiveness greatly - light thin undergarments enables mobility etc.....they should have expanded on it if anything!

[@DavetheLeg]

10 is a lot more classes than most games.

[@Bravadorado]

People aren't really mad that there's only 10 classes on it's face. What is confusing/upsetting for people is how the colors for the classes and the design language makes it seem like some are missing. Both mage and fighter have an unlockable class that is focused solely on damage over utility (Sorcerer and Warrior), but neither Archer nor Thief have such a class. And speaking of Thief, there is no class that is considered a hybrid of thief and something else. For example a hybrid of thief and fighter could have been Brawler (fists). The pure damage version of Thief could have been Assassin (Less elemental/bomb/trap abilities) and the one for archer could have been Sharpshooter (less movement, more sniper style attacks). Like there are clear places where a class archetype would fit and it's just not there. It also limits people in some ways that aren't balanced. If you want to play a rogue archetype character, you only have one option. Whereas a warrior type gets 3 options, and a caster type has 5 options. It's just sort of odd and it gives the impression that some classes were cut for release.

[@cpb1000]

It'a going to be the same. I'll end up maxing all the vocations(unless they change how vocations level or cap it) then end up being a goofy magic archer with clusterducked stats. My second favourite was mystick knight-which I guess is spearhand now...then there'S the wayfarer. Eitherway the hype is real! As many pawns have said before: "SOAKED TO THE BONE!!!"

[@Ayato-sama-q2u]

just 10 vocations? no advanced vocation for the thief and stuff???

[@nathenlamar3023]

Gotta be a mistranslation, probably meant they aren't announcing the others before the game comes out, because they already said there will be more and that they are ones that none of us would guess

[@StyleshStorm]

7:50 This might ruin the game for me as I was hoping for 12 to 14 total on launch day. With at least 1 secret/hidden unlockable near end game. I'll still play it and enjoy it very likely but to say I'm disappointed in this news is an understatement because I wanted a couple more flashy magick classes from DDO.

[@LordOfChoco]

U forgot u can be an elf too

[@Dantics]

You can't. You can make ears pointy but you can't make an elf character for your main character. Only pawns can be elves.

[@azatheeverchosen7615]

@@Dantics I wish Itsuno would address why the fuck they chose to prioritise the furry race over a modern fantasy staple..... Like, do they even realise how many people they pissed off by excluding elves from CC?

[@azatheeverchosen7615]

I wish Itsuno would address why the fuck they chose to prioritise the furry race over a modern fantasy staple..... Like, do they even realise how many people they pissed off by excluding elves from CC?

[@GoddessCynthia]

I’m really confused about that stat growth answer? it seems like it’s saying two different things at once

[@nicoleknott2678]

Idk I’m going archer to spearhand level cap 200 10 vocations, I think that’s enough you can only play 1at atime

[@ryvyr]

Being able to customize body type, hopefully without being some artificial hold dump nor microtransaction, is a major relief so that I can play a bit before the inevitable hours long boss battle of DD1/2 character creator ^^;;

[@noncompulsoryl]

Oof, 30 fps in this kind of combat must be rough.

[@liquid1514]

not if you played the first game, or any game frome ps4 and before

[@noncompulsoryl]

@@liquid1514 Yeah, I used to play on consoles. That doesn't mean I'd ever want to go back to 30 fps though.

[@Mohgenstein]

@@liquid1514yeah a decade old game LOLOL. Hell that might even have better performance 😂

[@guisergestalt9510]

@@liquid1514 it's wasted breath, a lot of the time people obsessed with 60 frames just use the argument "you must have low standards", now and again i go back and play the origional and it's just as fun as the first time i played it, framerate for me is only an issue when a game dips below 30fps

[@edwarddonald2792]

People didn't buy $500+ consoles to have games preform like last Gen games. ​@@liquid1514

[@lordkira9791]

why not put transmog...?

[@dietdoomguy]

Armor rework is devastating in my opinion. Not much creative freedom in preset upper and lower pieces.

[@DustinDustin00]

"Incorporates 3rd-party DRM: Denuvo Anti-tamper" no thanks. Maye one day it'll be on GoG.

[@GodEater015]

I don’t care if it drops to 10 fr I’m still playing it. The gameplay is on point so I don’t care.🤷🏽‍♂️

[@julienschittenhelm7023]

One save slot?! Realy?! Is this the 90's? Come on... 😝 We want to be able to make multiple characters, at least give the player the choice😤 I don't want to change my level 30 pure mage character into a warrior, to experience the gameplay of a warrior...🤦‍♂️

[@Sunmber]

What song are you using during your video explanation?

[@Nephibis]

So is it saying top and bottom armor for stats and every other slot is cosmetic? Cause I'd definitely prefer that. I hated having to look a certain way for good gear and wanted to have a unique look with the 1st game.

[@paledrake]

I feel like that's going to suck a lot. Now you'll basically have to wear the top and bottom pieces of a set unless you want to look like a miscolored clown. Basically what happened in Monster Hunter until they added layered armor and armor dyes.

[@momintim]

Kind of weird for thief not to have an advance vocation

[@AKS-666]

Yeah, seems the thief is getting assassins skills from the first game.

[@guisergestalt9510]

Seems to be wierd but not when you take into account it's a hybrid class, they basically just merged strider and assassin into the thief class, it's been shown to have assassin abilities in the trailers

[@TikTrendToks]

So, having 10 vocations makes 0 sense, you can't have dead end vocations, it defeats the purpose of advanced vocation system, since only 2 classes would lead into any progress, that's not how these games work. Therefore I guarantee there are more vocations.

[@Stonecat92]

I'm not really following what the devs response was at all when asked about stat growth. What Caps are they referring to from the previous game? wasn't your growth entirely fixed and permenant based on the vocation you had equipped at the moment of level up? an assassin between level 10-100 always gave the exact same STR every level, I can't think of anything that was "Capped" other than like, maybe your stat growth just flat out slowing down and specializing after 100. Its also confusing that players are citing credible data about growths changing when you swap vocations now so that specific jobs can actually enforce their "natural" stats regardless of how you levelled, but the actual devs seem to be talking about some unknown mechanic and using the phrase "Based on your vocation" which doesnt really tell us anything .

[@yodamasterx1869]

Looks great