emphasis and de emphasis EQ

[@keithrowe1007]

All the KZbin recording engineers : “to get there fast, use a car.” Dan Worrol: “first, the intake valve opens and as the piston moves downward, air fuel mixture is drawn in by the resulting vacuum....”

[@jaredperkins2717]

hahaha I love Dan's depth! Finally the advanced audio engineering content I've been looking for.

[@Intimatycal]

Right on point

[@Erudotic]

Hear hear!

[@MrRealeyesrealize]

The amount of “mix engineering” tutorials that have no depth other than the “solid advice” are so many that it took ages to find this channel. Like the reason we want the details is so we can effectively mix. There is no such thing as rules. But if you understand how things work it lets you create rules for the context of a song. Thank god for Dan

[@Hermiel]

Y'know, Dan... In the 20-some-odd years that I've been tweaking knobs I've developed juuuust enough hubris to think that I know a thing or two about this stuff. Somehow, though... SOMEHOW - these tutorials of yours manage to either _completely_ school me or at least reintroduce me to concepts in a way that make me question whether I in fact know anything at all. You and your sensible British accent. #besttutor #dulcettones DON'T LET IT GET TO YOUR HEAD

[@MaxKoko]

I couldn't have summed better my opinion about Dan.

[@luizfloripa]

5 years, and this is absolutely pure gold knowledge

[@devinliu4356]

Still in 8 🫡

[@h8f8]

Still in 9

[@devinliu4356]

@@h8f8 oh yeah absolutely!

[@gillfortytwo]

Always and forever, along with all of Dan's other videos

[@abrotherinchrist]

Dan, this was so deep that I think I need to watch it 3 more times to really get the potential of what your saying here.

[@CharlesFerraro]

Hah, I use first party plug-ins almost exclusively but happen to have both the IVGI and slick EQ! This tutorial reminds me of two things: The ol' phase inverted duplicate track with a side-chain enabled gate. Gives precise loudness reduction when the side chain source opens the phase inverted (with less volume) track as opposed to a side-chained compressor which will RIDE the volume of the side-source and apply attenuation accordingly. That trick is even more fun when the phase inverted track is band limited to only effect a specific frequency range. Courtesy of, or at least popularized by Mike Senior. And second, mid/side encoding and decoding with processing in the middle. I love how your tutorials make me think differently about how to approach signal processing.

[@Bluelagoonstudios]

As a broadcast engineer/ electronic repairman, we are well known with these techniques, these are always implemented in receivers and transmitters or DSPs for transmitters. If you hear only an emphasized signal on your radio, you get a lot highs in your speaker (and after some time headaches), so they build in a radio receiver a de-emphasis circuit. To get almost the sound of the source, nowadays if you listen to DAB+ radio's and they use a (wrong) FM DSP with pre emphasis there, you hear a sharp sound, s will be shh, for DAB+ you need other sound processing, because they don't have the de-emphasis circuit and also no composite (analog) signal.

[@OfficialNextrone]

No dislikes. Everyone knows this is an excelent video. 👍🏻

[@papito2lindo]

I would pay for tutorials like this. I love how I’m able to learn how it all started and why the tools we used now where created in the first place.

[@aeloh6921]

Great stuff Dan! Could you do a video on creating stereo width without sacrificing mono compatibility?

[@Kontekst]

it's insane to get this level of confirmation and education at the same time. i've been developing a similar technique not too long ago, because i like to use stock plugins a lot to avoid any compability issues and i didn't like the character that a lot of plugins come with. especially with saturation, i always give it a "custom character" with pre and post EQ but i never set the frequencies and gains on exactly the opposite values to cancel each other out. also had no clue of what was happening exactly, just had a theory in mind and spent hours of trial and error to shape the sound how i wanted it. learned a lot! you also have a great way to explain these rather complex subjects without dumbing them down.

[@1176hambone]

This is the headiest video I've seen so far. Harmonics tuning with saturation and inverse eq? Wtf! Mind blown.

[@erictsenmusic]

For us Ableton Live users, we can create an audio effect crack, and map the corresponding parameters of the two eq instances to macro knobs. Thanks, Dan!

[@TylrVncnt]

Yeah I’d def rather just have the 2 UI’s linked tho… macros get annoying with something like pro-Q or another graphic-interface-based EQ

[@splatsquatch3934]

not so possible.... you can really only get like halfway benefits :(

[@junction4935]

I miss more of the tutorials that are on this level, not just some basic stuff.

[@GaunCochran]

Most tutorials are more advanced. These are fundamental

[@ts4gv]

right. i guess rehashing beginner concepts over and over with obnoxious thumbnails is the moneymaker.

[@Eduaro2U]

Thanks

[@Eduaro2U]

👍🙏👍

[@blankspace0000]

Criminally underrated technique. I first heard about it from Mick Gordon on one of his livestreams. I was like wow how have I never thought of this before!

[@net_alone]

Thank you for the amazing tut... And the tidbit about record pressing, mind blown

[@erikvanzanen]

Wow. Dan's level is over 9000.

[@bjh3661]

4 minutes in i realised i worked this out for myself about 5 years ago but I only used it on one track and then forgot about it. It's easy to do in Ableton with a macro. then midi map the macro parameters to a midi controller for maximum joy. Thanks for reminding me about this.

[@nandoblondemobydick5438]

really Impressive!! i´m a big fan and a student of your Tuts, there is a lot to learn from your high engeener level, Thanks a lot. By the way Fab Filter to me is the best plug in Company. no one out there explain their plug in devlopment as Fab Filter does. I own lot of plug ins but i rarelly use other than my Fab Filter bundles, just because they have lots of features and it is easy to work with them even at a humble audio knoledge level.Tthe sound to me is high end. And with you on the board it is the ice on the cake, We can grew up day by day giving a carefull attention to your tuts. Sincerly thanks!

[@TheREAPERBlog]

Amazing. Never thought to do this.

[@GS-nc2oj]

Mostly above my head, but a pleasure to watch. I hope to someday be this knowledgeable !

[@midiman5045]

Dan thanks so much your videos are great. I am no expert at all but every time I learn something.

[@UKMyron]

that just blew my mind. loving the tune too. sweet guitar

[@MPanalog]

Great to see that there are other people messing with the things i'm messing for a long time now! great! This is also the way DBX Denoisers work with the compander, pre-emphasis -> compression /expansion -> de-emphasis (iirc)! Good stuff

[@killboybands1]

Is this always used as an insert? Or is there an application that could use it as an FX return?

[@MPanalog]

@@killboybands1 pre-emphasis & de-emphasis can be used anywhere as a before and after processing. The most common thing I'd do is to put a non-linear processor(distortion etc) in between the emphasis and de emphasis eqs, so in that regard yes it can be used as an FX return.

[@killboybands1]

@@MPanalog Thank you very much MP!

[@briancase6180]

Ugh, how did I miss this? Great video; as always, thanks!

[@chrisrose5503]

Simply the best. Love the analytical approach. Plus I had no idea that I could link parameter controls in Reaper. I need to RTFM I guess.

[@DjClimamusic]

This is gold information, thank you very much for sharing your knowledge, thumbs up Dan.

[@routingwithin3713]

You are like a production guru

[@djentlover]

I didn't expect this to be a mind blowing video

[@tomaszzielinski4521]

Amazing tutorial, didn't know such quality stuff is to be found on KZbin!

[@Noel-jk3jy]

finally starting to feel like a true mix engineer with this 2 vsts at once business

[@SXTransmission]

Wow! This is incredible. You make it so clear. Excellent explanations.

[@IDDQDSound]

Anyone else keep coming back to the tutorial lowkey for the music? I'd listen to this all day if released, Dan :)

[@esahm373]

Hate the music, love the tutorial😅

[@ruairi98]

the way you link these perameters seems so intuitive!! what a great ad for reaper haha

[@konke3784]

Took me a bit to recreate this in FL studio's patcher but this is freaking great, thanks a lot!

[@disklamer]

The vast amounts of processing power we have available nowadays gives us basically unlimited possibilities to do new "impossible" (in discreet gear) and wonderful things. It takes another level of imagination to take full advantage of it all.

[@ts4gv]

The fact that Reaper saves parameter links in FX Chains is amazing!

[@Breakstuff5050]

Dans knowledge will forever be relevant

[@shane_taylor]

I learn something new every single time.

[@hugohousepublishing3484]

Extraordinarily high production values. Thank you so much for this, and so many other of your immensely helpful videos!

[@mSarimaa]

You could also set up an eq like this, eq a vocal or an instrument with the de-emphasis eq bypassed and then copy paste or move the de-emphasis eq into another channel for quick and easy de-masking stuff...

[@ChristianBenci]

Thanks Dan - this tutorial is one of the best I've seen. Cheers Mate!

[@mikosoft]

Wow, this is like two tutorials in one. For one I didn't know about parameter linking so this is a great tool to have for stereo separated tracks. Also the emph- deemph trick sounds great! I'm gonna try it on my next mixes.

[@the3mu606]

Thanks for all you do Dan! Such an amazing tip

[@davelongenecker649]

Here's Dan's setup using FabFilter ProQ2 at 9:58

[@benzmobil]

Thanks for the tutorial! It opens mind for more exploration.

[@weststarr2046]

LIKE very much this video tutorial, you have touched a very interesting theme. I didn't know that jojo's Reaper can show the phase line... AWESOME. I would like you get more deep explaining the why the shape or what is the meaning. THANK A LOT for share you knowledge.... Bless..🎩!!!

[@AmagrasMUSIC]

Huge fan here.

[@DanWorrall]

[@DanWorrall]

Can't really help there I'm afraid. While I do check mixes on headphones, I don't actually mix with them, and all my cans are closed back models for tracking with minimal bleed. You will probably be better off with open backed cans for mixing. Go for reputable makes like Beyerdynamic, AKG, Sennheiser, Sony. Don't buy Beats! Whatever you get make sure you try them out first: you need them to be comfortable to wear for long periods.

[@ejmikk]

Awesome! I've been thinking about trying this out for compression purposes. I'll have to try distortion too. Thanks.

[@Speechrezz]

This is awesome! Is your example with the distortion how Ableton Live's Saturator works? It has a 'depth', 'width' and 'freq' knob that seem to provide similar results

[@DanWorrall]

I don't know Live very well, but that sounds plausible.

[@theinfideluk]

I remember reading about this in CM magazine, I'm pretty sure you're the author now!

[@caspermaster-com]

Increddible! Took a while for me to do the proq2 but it works! Do the parameter modulation from the De emphasis eq. Last touched parameter on it, and link it to the other one:)

[@afi6061]

Great vid! learnt lots! Thanks.

[@CreativeMindsAudio]

I've been doing audio for 15 years part time and never thought to use EQ this way. I always use the side chain in a plugin or EQ post/before and think it's enough, but this effect is super different and handy! Especially if an LFO is used on the EQ (saw that as a feature in reaper menu). i also never knew reaper had the capability to link parameters, do other DAWs do this too?! That's super powerful! Super helpful if i have a stack of like 10 lead guitar tracks then wanna change the tone of the amp sim i use.

[@mountaine]

I'm sure it's been brought up in the comments to a 7(!) year old video before, but I imagine you can do it with macro knobs in Studio One as well... Just watched this - have to investigate. What a great trick!

[@canastraroyal]

In Reason this parameter-linking through CV is pretty standard!

[@waltercruz2044]

Awesome. I never thought about this before. Great!

[@junction4935]

Amazing technique !

[@vanhaze2000]

I dont understand sh*t about all this, but much appreciation for making Reaper Tuts :0)

[@JimGriffOne]

I thought it was only me that used pre-emphasis and de-emphasis on distortion plugins! I use it in mastering all the time to soften the highs via tape saturation or make the lows growl a bit.

[@masond4181]

I need to try this mid-side (side chain style) compression shown briefly at the end of this video.

[@skirize]

I know that bass preset that kicks in at #1:50!! How you been keeping Dan!

[@nsjx]

Phew... that was some heavy info. Thank you, Dan. I really followed what you said though. Great tutorial!

[@kaori-3882]

The more I work with this technique I think I start to grasp it's ingenuity.. and think plugin makers should make EdEEQ :) (Emphasis de Emphasis eq) for every effect like there is Multi Band for everything this days.. Here's an example, would love your thoughts about this theory. Lets say I want to apply compression for a whole mix, and want it more on the low mid area while less on the high frequencies. (Specifically using compression with harmonic saturation) 1. Using single compressor: Would naturally react more to low frequencies, but wouldn't allow the control for how much to effect different frequencies areas. Doing perfect low frequency compression could introduce unwanted effects on other frequencies. (like pumping and over compression) 2. Using Multi Band Compression: Would allow the control for each frequency area but without the wonderful effect that happens while compressing the whole mix together, especially when using analog or when there's added harmonic saturation that spread beautifully on the whole range reacting to all the material together and blending it. 3. Shaping Internal side chain EQ: To my understanding, when shaping the side chain eq, For example applying bell filter to the SC to try to use compressor as a De-esser on Vocals. Contrary to what many say online, to my ears, the compressor still react to the 'whole material' but triggered by the dynamic content of the input side chain, it does not working specifically on this frequency area. If it would it would it would sound like a dynamic EQ! and it does not. ---- Which leads me to think that the technique shown in this video is very much the holy grail of using a device to gives it's flavor to the whole frequency range and at the same time giving full control over it's effect on different frequency areas. What do you think?

[@DanWorrall]

It's exactly the same as EQing the side chain. In effect you make the threshold frequency dependent. If the compressor has a side chain input its probably easier and more efficient to use that.

[@kaori-3882]

@@DanWorrall Realy?! Damn.. 😬 Allright back to experimentation.. Thanks for answering :) Also I think maybe doing parallel compression for specific frequencies, and than reducing the added accumulated frequencies at the blended original clean track is closer to what I'm trying to achieve

[@DanWorrall]

@@kaori-3882 re reading your question: the saturation won't be the same if you use pre and post EQs instead of side chain EQ. But the compression will be.

[@kaori-3882]

@@DanWorrall Oh interesting, I just tried it now and it seems what i'm looking for is actually de-emphasized parallel effect. So, a track (not sent to master) is sent to 2 tracks. 1. with emphasis EQ with the effects I want. 2. the original track with de-emphasis/inverse eq to reduce accumulated level at added frequencies. Blended together to achieve the effect at the desired frequencies without changing anything else including volume. Edit: I think this plugin does just that kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5XUq3arbrJ6o9E

[@shuplitz2257]

Your videos keep showing up in my feed and it's not the first time that my dyslexic ass read your name as "Dan Wonderwall"

[@turboesther36]

I already have been doing this technique unknowingly and I feel so vindicated knowing it’s a legit technique because I’m a total amateur lol

[@opsjesse]

I clicked away after watching and thought, hmm seems neat but over my head. Then after 10 steps i said OH. THATS EXACTLY WHAT I NEED.

[@atishep]

Such a great tutorial! Thanks a lot!

[@Daysofsamara]

Excellent tutorial!

[@ovonisamja8024]

Ok, mind blown here!

[@seenbelow]

This is awesome!!

[@alrecks619]

ah, this explains why my bass heavy materials sound like congested nose whenever i use saturation plugins because i don't know whether they did the curve internally or not.

[@soltan_sound]

@11:05 'which might make difference at asymmetrical type of distortion' ? Explain. Iknow what is asymmetrical distortion.

[@Ashish_Kumar_Ok]

wtf! you are genius.

[@qyu]

came to refresh myself on some older tricks covered stayed for the fool's gold demo track

[@CLaw-tb5gg]

Guitarists do this, but oddly don't know they are (for the most part). I.e. putting a mid- or treble-boost before distortion to change the timbre.

[@jasonlevine2927]

Is this what's going on behind the scenes in multiband plugins like Saturn and Pro-MB?

[@robertopistolesi2735]

Dear Dan Worrall, thanks A LOT for the very educative videos. I wonder if you had ever tested the free plugins from voxengo. In particular with the tube amp simulation, I'm having problems about what the plugin's really doing,given the fact that it doesn't really totally null when in Delta Solo mode(in Reaper) even fine tuning the gain. It would be really useful if you would do your sorcery(😜) with plugin doctor and go deep in these voxengo plugins. Thanks again

[@MortFantome]

The music is awesome

[@CornSw]

Love this! Thanks a lot Dan! :)

[@RocknRollkat]

In the digital world, inverting processes, then inverting polarity is simply a matter of the arithmetic seeing a 'minus' sign on one channel. In the digital world all inductors, capacitors, transistors, resistors, etc. are perfectly spec'ed, never drift, etc., because they're all numbers ! So of course you're going to get perfect results every time. Try this in the analogue (real) world and you will NEVER get the same results twice ! Of course you know this, but some newcomers to the technology might not know this.

[@Timmsstuff]

Was waiting for you to link the overall gain scales in proq2, would be a great way to automate in the amount of colouration throughout the track

[@appar1tixn]

OMG that is great! as always, super stellar tutorial... One fast question, either to you or some other expert that might watch this video, is it possible to do same linking technique within logic pro x?

[@duncanparsons]

ah, Christian Budde's VST Analyser - where would we be without it

[@JonNeimeister]

This is brilliant, so it's essentially like an obscenely flexible form of multiband processing? Where you're isolating certain frequency bands to be more or less affected by a processor, but with the added flexibility of different EQ shapes to more specifically sculpt the sound?

[@DanWorrall]

It's probably closer to EQing the Sidechain of a compressor, to vary the threshold for different frequencies. But this trick allows you to do that for any compressor, even if it has no Sidechain inputs, or for other non linearities like distortion and saturation.

[@JonNeimeister]

Dan Worrall totally makes sense, cheers for the great tip! I'll have to give it a try.

[@jjohnson3030]

excellent tutorial!

[@NPC_averagemale003]

Amazing! Is UrsaDSP Boost based on this video?

[@iulianbendrea9010]

Damn, what a noob I am! So many things to learn about.... Anyways, thanks a ton, Dan! You're an amazing tutor! :)

[@kromanoidx]

This is like alien knowledge 👀

[@insertanynameyouwant5311]

so is this all about adding a saturation to specific frequencies or so? and speaking about controlling compressors with no built-in sidechain, isn`t it easier to make it via Parameter Modulation menu?

[@joannakrystyniecka6332]

Would you also tell the name of the song? :) It's so dope I needed to go back to this video to learn, cause during the first time I got s much into the vibe :D

[@DanWorrall]

Fool's Gold. Sorry, not sure why that wasn't in the info. Bandcamp link: dan-worrall.bandcamp.com/album/impostor-syndrome

[@zicmanislord]

Brilliant. Thx a lot, Dan :) .

[@MickeyMikeMd]

Dan, your tutorials are the best, most informative out there. I love all your Fabfilter trailers. So, question for you: Let's say you have a plug in like Decapitator set as an insert. Using it's filters, you narrow it's range to the low mids of, say, a bass, then you use the wet/dry knob to blend that back into the dry signal. Is the problem with MY scenario, versus YOURS, that using my method the phase would be messed up? Realize they are inherently different as your method is entirely saturated (with frequency selected emphasis) while in mine you are just blending in a filtered, saturated signal back into the dry. But in my method is the phase messed up, by it's very nature? Thanks!

[@DanWorrall]

Thanks Mickey! In this case you're using filters and distortion to craft a new, hopefully better sound. Don't worry about "messing up the phase" just make sure it sounds good!

[@MickeyMikeMd]

+Dan Worrall Thanks Dan!

[@junction4935]

Would it be too much asking you, which are your favorite linear Eq's and your favorite non-linear processors. Thank you !

[@DanWorrall]

Junction Pro-Q2 for >90% of EQ duties. I have a ton of saturation plugs, or comps/EQs with saturation included, but i keep coming back to Fabfilter Saturn: easy to get carried away with the multiband and modulation options in that one, but it can also do very nice subtle single band tube and tape saturation.

[@eMaLiO36]

amazing insights

[@zumazmusic]

Fascinating 🤓

[@thimothorin]

Hey Dan, Is there a similar Parameter-Link option in Logic Pro X? I've been thinking about this sooooo long and couldn't imagine there was an acutal real solution for that... Don't want to switch to Reaper just because of that :D (Btw Dan, I love every video you do... your in depth super detailed geeky stuff is always so satisfying!)

[@thimothorin]

OMG found the answer on my own.... there are Smart Controls in logic I never put attention to this feature it's been there for so long... There is so much potential in things beeing already there we just didn't pay attention to... :O Thanks Dan for pushing me into that direction wouldn't have known about it otherwise

[@nibblrrr7124]

This is sooo useful for guitar amp(sim)s, and I don't understand why it isn't more widespread.

[@tonal.states]

How so? Care to share how you would use it?

[@hodshonf]

agreed! i always bandpass my guitar/bass signal going into my sims, but never thought about adding the inverse after.

[@hodshonf]

AND most times i'll add a saturation plugin AFTER my amp sim - will be setting up this rig for the post-sim saturation as well.

[@hodshonf]

and like someone asked above, i usually use FF Saturn for distortion, wondering if Saturn's band control handles all this.

[@afti03]

WOW..this is..other wordly.. i don't even know if i fully understood it or i'm just lying to myself. So this is basicaly to change the feel of the sound..so the null test is to see how much?

[@Huginnm]

An eye opener indeed. Can this technique be applied to a compressor? Or an expander? I'm not even sure if my question is even valid, but I'm just curious.

[@DanWorrall]

Yes

[@Huginnm]

@@DanWorrall Thank you. This opens up a whole lot of possibilities to what I'm trying to do. Parameter modulation with ReaEq comes to mind too.

[@DRocksRecords]

wow. Nice tip. Great video. Dan how do you acheive such a great voice over sound quality and video flow???

[@DanWorrall]

D Rocks Records Voice over: no mystery. Good mic, careful EQ and compression, ducking for the rest of the audio. Video flow: I write the script carefully, and lay out examples in advance.

[@DRocksRecords]

Dan Worrall Thanks for your reply! The results are awesome. I like all your presentations and tutorials. They help me understand and apply good techniques. Have a good day bro. Alex