Wide Range Drivetrain: 9-Speed 11-50T Cassette

[@-Gothicgirl-]

And now 3x in front for ultimate range🤣

[@2001Artfull]

I have a wider range with my 11-40 rear cassette and triple chainring 42-32-20. However, for trail riding your setup would be great. I ride long steep logging roads and paved roads to get home. As always, no one setup works perfectly for all rides. Thanks for the info on this particular setup. Very useful for us all.

[@lucywucyyy]

where did you find a 20t chainring? is it 64bcd?

[@williammorris4419]

I agree. from 2015 thru 2019 I raced mtb xc on a hardtail with a 3 x 10speed with a custom 26/32/40 chainring setup and it was great! In 46 races, the front derailleur only failed ONCE. The modified but very wide range helped me win quite a few races.

[@whitepawrolls]

I have this same 9 speed on my electric recumbent. I love it for this. You made the better choice for derailleur though. Think I may swap mine and the shifter :)

[@Stiljuyv55433]

Me will go ahead with this 11-50 setup on my Trek 8 hardtail dualcontrol vbrake xtr 3x9 existing.

[@froglegs4910]

Very appreciated for your high quality video work ! Very informative tutorial !

[@gofiodetrigo8756]

you just gave me hope thanks for sharing

[@kovar2344]

haha thats a crazy build, well done

[@Comby500]

I like this video. Can you give some informations? How long is chain? What is chainline?

[@portioliluca]

But isn't there too much pedaling difference between each shift? does the chain go well from the small to the large sprocket?

[@DanyoSports]

The shifting isn’t very smooth but the chain goes very well.

[@lucywucyyy]

i have one of these cassettes and yeah the gaps between the gears are quite big, its not really a problem though if you live somewhere hilly enough to justify a 50t when i hit flatter terrain though im really wishing i had closer gears though pretty easy to upgrade to an 11s though

[@lucywucyyy]

@@DanyoSports yeah mines not very smooth either lol, gotta keep my chain clean and lubed for it to shift right

[@marcelo4741]

Very good video! Thank you!!

[@shinobusensui9395]

50t !!!! In urban environment what this be like at 20% gradient hill?

[@greenleafycabbage8715]

Wow. Thats a huge gear ratio for a 9 speed drivetrain. Im gonna try this on my budget bike using ltwoo elite derailleur

[@-Gothicgirl-]

Then think how much the gear ratio is when it is a 3x9 is with that cassette 😂

[@lucywucyyy]

@@-Gothicgirl- thats what im running right now its kinda addicting having this much gear range

[@gothserch]

Hello. I would like to have this setup for my gravel bike. Can you recommend a lever model that can be compatible with sram sx4 and the 11-50 t casette?

[@hanndrayeapphicolibre5214]

Can I use 10 speed rear derailleur to my 11-50t 9 speed cassette?

[@mauriciogianotti8039]

Yup

[@lucywucyyy]

as long as your shifter is 9s itl work fine

[@abstraddic0442]

So, Did you need to add any chain links because of the wide range diameter ? I'm only assuming not, since it wasn't mentioned ? thank you for this very helpful video. 👍

[@DanyoSports]

Yes, you’ll need to add a few chain links.

[@crustytoenail1110]

I can't get my x4 to work with a 40t cog....looks like your derailleur hanger is extra low which would explain why mine can't achieve this

[@lucywucyyy]

yeah you need a hanger extention, normally one is included with these huge cassettes, i needed an extra long one for mine as the included one wasnt long enough lol

[@majkapiotr]

Yeah, the guy explains in every video that you need hanger extension...

[@Brodiesfunction]

I have a 8 speed hub and would like to have this 9 speed wide ratio casette, could I remove the second smallest cog to fit my hub?

[@DanyoSports]

Your hub should fit with the 9 speed cassette, so there’s no need to remove a cog to make it fit.

[@lucywucyyy]

im using a 9 speed on an 8 speed hub atm, it just works! theoretically you can put a 13 speed on an 8 speed hub lol... theoretically

[@thecuberman2222]

Hey man, I have a question: what is the quality of the ztto cassette, how durable do you think it is? I would like to make a drivetrain like yours, but i don't know, if this is a good and budget or a bad chinese brand.

[@DanyoSports]

Hi, the quality is as good as the Shimano brand and I haven’t had any issues so far.

[@crabtrap]

every thing is "china brand" dummy

[@HuyTran-m9w]

hi, can i use chain 8 speed to upgrade 11 speed as your solution? tks

[@alexolaverri192]

Can you provide information on the derailleur hanger you are using on this project. TIA

[@DanyoSports]

The hanger is included when you purchase the cassette.

[@GuiltyPresents]

How long should the chain be?

[@lucywucyyy]

very long lol

[@Kietel28]

Will it work on Triban Rc 500 please? I have 9 speed sora

[@andresfandiyan9737]

what chain ring size teeth size don you use ?

[@DanyoSports]

The chainring is 30t.

[@agungsukariman]

love you man

[@ree-yantamayo4401]

what is that speed of the chain is it 9 speed. or 10 speed?

[@DanyoSports]

It’s a 9 speed chain.

[@chachenaki_kichenancha]

Could shimano SLX 9 gear shifter have range to shift to the biggest gear ?

[@DanyoSports]

It’s not the shifter that gives you the wide range, it’s the derailleur.

[@marklouieadame]

Also you may need an extension to make sure you sont over stretch

[@lucywucyyy]

@@marklouieadame yeah i have an extra long one, the one that came with my cassette wasnt long enough for my m760 derailleur which is only meant for a 34t

[@Showdipta]

Can i use with sram X4?

[@DanyoSports]

Yes, make sure it is a long cage derailleur.

[@ezoez7548]

Could i possibly do this with a 38t chainring?

[@lucywucyyy]

any chainring you want will work i had a 38 for a while but eventually went down to an oval 32t and a 22t right now im running a 3x with 24 34 42 chainrings it all works great you want to make sure the chanline is inwards enough for the chain to run smoothely on the biggest cogs, i had to use some spacers to do that and then it seems to work great no matter what chainrings i run

[@spygamer6750]

What brand is that?

[@DanyoSports]

The brand is Ztto.

[@slodziak222222]

try longer chain

[@manuelrojas3259]

Can I do this with the regular sram x-4 derailleur?

[@DanyoSports]

You need a long cage derailleur.

[@crustytoenail1110]

@@DanyoSports I have the Sram x4 but it won't shift into my lowest cog (40t) any idea why I can't get mine to work? I've adjusted the B screw all the way forward and all the way back and the pulley is too close to the lowest cog and rubs

[@idrist29]

Chain 10 speed or 11 speed???

[@DanyoSports]

It’s a 10 speed chain.

[@Icehso140]

I have NEVER used the 11 and 13T sprocket on the trail or road to trail segments. I wish they'd stop putting them on cassettes for Mtn bikes.

[@johnsuarez1404]

That's a problem with your chainring, not your cassette. You need a smaller chainring.

[@johnsuarez1404]

@jon dough then you don't understand chainrings. 11t should always be the smallest cog. The chainring determines what the max gear ratio is.

[@johnsuarez1404]

@jon dough you could argue that that's a better design, but that's not how cassettes are made. The standard for the smallest cog is 11 teeth. Ergo, op needs a smaller chainring.

[@danieljonsson8095]

It's a casette.... YOU decide what gears you want. If you want your smallest to be 20T, simply put a 20T as your smallest. It's a casette, not a freewheel. You're only limited by your derailleur's ability to switch the chain between the sizes. Other than that it's all up to you.

[@lucywucyyy]

i have a 9 speed 11 to 50 goldix cassette, it has a slightly smoother shift pattern than the ztto one in one of the cogs but besides that is the same and its pretty fuckin great especially for the price, i dont like 1x though, too much friction and finnickyness and not enough range using this with a 3x atm and ive become addicted to the low low low gearing im yet to find a hill so steep i cant climb it even when im towing a trailer and pannier bags short cranks and oval chainrings make steep hills eeeeven easier ive got plans to build what might be a world record for gear range drivetrain in the future when ive got the money gonna run a 11 to 52 13 speed with 22 32 42 chainrings gonna have more gears than i know what to do with lol

[@jonabub]

Where can i get the 11-50 cassette? I never heard of it, is it a new product? Thank you for your great videos, i love them all!

[@DanyoSports]

Thanks, these wide range cassettes came out not so long ago, I got it from AliExpress.

[@jonabub]

@@DanyoSports Thank you for the hint! I can't wait to see what you have planned next. I'm going to try the disc brake conversion and the cassette-conversion on some of my bikes. Probably I will install a friction switch as I am looking for rugged and no maintenance solutions, what control did you use? Trigger shift?

[@DanyoSports]

Nice, I'm using the SRAM X-7 trigger shifter.

[@jonabub]

@@DanyoSports Nice, thanks for the advice! :)

[@snorttroll4379]

@@jonabub what is a friction switch?

[@nzo_6543]

Crazy how ZTTO somehow copied Box Components Prime 9 50t cassette

[@FantaFuture92]

That's a Sunrace design. Box rebrands Sunrace casettes.

[@nzo_6543]

@@FantaFuture92 Oohh, i just didn't know more about between Box and Sunrace,

[@FantaFuture92]

@@nzo_6543 box only makes the derailleur and shifter. you can also use any 9 speed chain. Problem is that you have to use 2 chains to get the length. Also dont get box prime 9.i have it and it's the worst drive train i tried. Try microshift if you dont want to go with the big brands

[@nzo_6543]

@@FantaFuture92 Yeah, I mean Box is really not meant from anybody that their thumbs aren't stubby enough. And they recommended a chain guide because it causing chain drops. And this is the two of the cons of Box's drivetrain parts.

[@nzo_6543]

@@FantaFuture92 Also L-TWOO, I tried it and shifts great, made by a CEO of SRAM factory in China and that factory was closed that he made his own bike parts, I've been Using the 10 speed version and shifts great, also i realized that SRAM and LTWOO rear derailleurs are similar.