Can Marbles Solve A Maze?

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[@joshuaschluter6802]

Once enough marbles were in a section, they started to behave more like a swirling liquid

[@m.h.6470]

That is essentially what they are - atoms/molecules of a liquid.

[@SparkDragon42]

the phase transition was quite interesting

[@RealCCre]

So you’re telling me I’m just watching a micro-maze?

[@bramwagener7881]

IDC

[@jonathanamaya6222]

Ya

[@zachrodan7543]

I think we can confirm by looking at this that... marbles are a liquid, but a liquid with an insane level of viscousity

[@nemasisdemarini8339]

Any particulate matter will act like a liquid at a large enough scale.

[@fishactivation5087]

It's a great many pieces of solid matter that form a hard, floor-like structure.

[@Otamatone69]

almost like it’s a solid or something

[@zachrodan7543]

@@Otamatone69 a solid which flows and deforms to fill it's container

[@kindfiercedragon]

This would not work with marbles. They would very quickly lock into a crystal pattern and hold strong under pressure. This works because these “marbles” are more like gelatin, allowing them to deform and slip by each other. Definitely still an interesting video. If you want to try something like this, you can use a viscous liquid.

[@aprettycoolname4839]

I do agree i think this is not representative due to all the clipping

[@jrs0614]

That’s disrespectful to him

[@kindfiercedragon]

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[@kindfiercedragon]

Interesting, because of my reply to a reply, that reply has become the highlighted reply. I didn’t know KZbin worked like that.

[@bookfartful]

as soon as the marbles cleared the first upward section it became a situation of not if the marbles could solve the maze but if your pc could handle the amount of marbles needed

[@alansmithee419]

And also if the collumn above the maze could hold enough marbles to increase the pressure enough.

[@hisune_yt]

You should try filling the maze with one solid color marbles. After they pass the maze add a different contrasting color and see if the new colored marbles make it out of the maze and if they create a one single line from the start to the exit.

[@cjslime8847]

I agree I would like to see that

[@LucasUng]

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[@edwardbickford8277]

Nice idea. That would be interesting to see.

[@Lim_Liamp]

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[@FightOrFlight0]

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[@cobusvanderlinde6871]

Something that could be really interesting is to see if the marbles can indicate the optimal route through the maze... Something like: First fill up the maze with blue marbles only, and make sure that it can flow (marbles fall out at the exit as long as there is pressure above.) Now recolour all marbles still in the hopper above the maze to red, and from this point on only add in red marbles to maintain pressure. Continue to run the simulation until no more blue marbles make it out of the exit and only red marbles still leave the maze. If what I envision is right, then the red marbles will very rarely find their way into the dead ends, and will mostly flow through to the exit, which means that you should eventually end up with the path through the maze in red, and the dead ends coloured in blue. Otherwise you could end up getting to see the maze slowly bleed red completely as the new red marbles push the old blue marbles out of the dead zones somehow (I expect this won't happen) You will likely want to test this on a smaller maze, and will want to have a way to remove marbles that exit the maze from the simulation, to spare your processor.

[@farpurple]

And yes by all stack marbles maze will transform to wavy tube.

[@slomopanic]

Whenever it seemed to have stopped, i feel like it just needed to build up pressure in the spaces it recently filled before able to push further into new areas

[@thegrubbiest]

I feel that if there was some agitation at the sharp turns or edges, it probably would have "flowed" more like a liquid and required less total marbles.

[@anteshell]

I'm genuinely surprised how good this game handled this much abuse on the physics engine. It must be a custom solution instead of using out-of-box physics engines available in game engines. The devs definitely knows what they're doing as even with this much intersecting physics bodies they still respect the bounding boxes of static objects so well without intersecting. Also, I still haven't seen my marble ever anywhere.

[@satibel]

I did a custom physics engine, you'd be surprised how well modern processors handle brute force physics, with just using an avx2 brute force solution I can run around 10k sphere to sphere collisions at 60fps. and if you use some sort of grouping instead of comparing to every ball regardless of distance, you can handle way more collisions because the number of checks is exponential in brute force. (basically going from ~10k checks per ball to ~50 checks.)

[@nemasisdemarini8339]

So, a note based on my understanding of it, but the reason that the maze slowed down so much near the end, was because every turn that the marbles took, added backwards pressure into the system. This back pressure not only forces the marbles to flow out into other parts of the maze, but also tries to force the marbles back out of the entrance of the maze. So at the start, adding marbles at the beginning will be far more effective than at the end. Since the amount of force needed to overcome the total pressure is less. So, theoretically speaking, making the marbles lighter would make it harder for them to solve the maze. Since the backwards pressure wouldn't really change based on the weight of the marbles, but rather the shape and size of the maze. So making whilst making them lighter would make it easier to lift And force them through the maze, it would also make it much harder to force them to enter the maze in the first place.

[@AnnnaKathryn]

having a time lapse from a camera that can see the whole maze would be very satisfying

[@Kingbob670]

I like the multi textured marbles they look more appealing

[@tickytickytango5634]

They're basically just a very viscous liquid

[@kylezdancewicz7346]

Almost, if it was an actual liquid it would be less susceptible to dead end because the air bubbles would form and block it.

[@tickytickytango5634]

@@kylezdancewicz7346 Well obviously the simulation doesn't account for air.

[@kylezdancewicz7346]

@@tickytickytango5634 I’m pretty sure this is just the fault of them being marbles so the air pockets always have gaps to flow out through

[@Jacob_Junge]

I'm not convinced this model accurately reflects the significant friction of glass on glass under pressure. But I still watched the whole thing.

[@tickytickytango5634]

It's fascinating to see how they flow.

[@pularis1629]

I think I works relatively realistically at the beginning. Gravity pushes them all together, and then video game physics take over. They are inside each other, so the vibrate a lot, and that slowly moves to the area of less density because of what I suspect to be a ridiculously high amount of pressure. Im pretty sure that is how that works. My favorite color is like neon green, so ima pick that. Out of the 2, the swirling plasma one is my favorite, so I’ll go with that Edit: this looks so freaking fake but that was legitimately my favorite marble type so yes I legitimately chose it.

[@SuprSBG]

This is a comment down below

[@edwardbickford8277]

I'm going to go with a green marble on this one Edit: YES!!! I was right 😁

[@cringeking3576]

I thought it was pink

[@noyou9379]

that looks like a very similar maze to when they put fluid in it to see if fluid can solve a maze.

[@TheRavenCoder]

Makes sense. If you have enough uniform solids, together they'll behave like a liquid. Sand is the most common example of this.

[@CadanL]

Yeah, unlike the liquid it ignores surface tension and pressure so it fills up what should stay as air pockets

[@amusedapple4933]

Yeah Steve mould did that

[@amusedapple4933]

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[@Anastas1786]

It's not enough to _fill_ the previous dead ends; the dead ends need to _pressurize_ in order for the overall marble mass to regain speed in the exit-ward direction.

[@guillermoelnino]

This video brought to y ou by the imperfection of recreational physics simulations.

[@steeljawX]

Dapper: "Guess which color will finish the maze!" Me: "Joke's on you, Dapper. I just switched my monitor to grayscale, so it'll obviously be the gray one." Also, remember kids. Everything in moderation. This might look like a crazy Marble World experiment that's pushing the limits of Dapper's computer, but really, it's a parallel to what happens if you eat too much cheese..............Sorry, that's the only thing that came to mind while watching this and I think it's very much fatigue related. It was all potty humor. Either A. Somebody clogged the toilet again! or B. Shouldn't have had all that cheese!!!

[@DianaBell_MG]

imagine if this game simulated the breaking point of glass marbles....

[@timaeustanis]

It's like sand, many tiny solids behave a bit like a liquid

[@romerop.productions1520]

That was cool how the marbles apply pressure on the ones further in the maze

[@FarmerEnvoyXtreme]

Congrats on hitting 200K Subs Dapper. Long time watcher and subscriber from Start of (More or less) Zeepkist

[@digital_gibbs]

I couldn’t believe that my swirly green marble made it! This video was more entertaining than I thought it was going to be.

[@nemasisdemarini8339]

At a large enough scale, most particulates should start acting like a liquid. So the real question is, at what size, can marbles solve a maze?

[@TravisDoesStuff]

Dapper is my favorite :)

[@escapZe]

same (:

[@Jirodyne]

In this game? Seems yes. But if this was irl? Heck no, would never be physically possible. The game doesn't simulate actual physics, only a fake simulation of physics, so it's forcing the marbles 'Up' to make room for new marbles artifically. If this was reality with real marbles, it would become air tight in that center shaft eventually, and not only would you not get a Marble out, you could probably rotate, or even throw it, and the marbles probably wouldn't even budge without extreme force breaking the seal they would create. But it's fun to see if it can be done in a game. But to see what I mean visually, search on youtube: 'Family Guy - Money swimming pool Scene'. You'll see what I mean.

[@aoay]

Yeah, surely friction between marbles, and the friction between the marbles and the front and back walls, would cause all motion to come to a halt in very short order.

[@ledocteur7701]

You can clearly see the marble getting squished into each other, that elasticity is one of the quirks of video game physics and probably what allowed friction to not become a problem.

[@FreakinFred08]

I see this as an allegory to people at a mall on Black Friday.

[@solarium_]

oh i love how the physics handles the marble pressure :0 also id love a heavy vs light sim of this!!!!

[@happyskittle286]

In real life, the marbles would not be able to finish the maze because that's not how that works.

[@happyskittle286]

also the marbles were clipping into each other, which obviously cant happen in real life

[@xian2themax]

This would not even be close to working irl, eventually there would be way too much friction and nothing would happen

[@Joseph_Drew_III]

The weight of the marbles doesn’t matter. If you make them lighter, the marbles up top will provide less pressure.

[@EthanCowlbeck]

Weight won’t matter, if the marbles are lighter, the ones at the top won’t push as hard

[@FuryUnknown]

Hi just found your channel and so far I'm loving it

[@mcqueen10.]

Chaos is what we embrace. Chaos keeps us sane.

[@gcewing]

What we learn from this: If a machine has enough marbles in it, even if they're virtual, some of them will end up on the floor.

[@thekaliensareinvading]

i'm just considering these to be orbees. obviously glass/metal marbles wouldn't work very well with this, but it's so satisfying and could potentially work irl with orbees.

[@darkpheonix77]

The question is not weight. It's friction.

[@captainpolio867]

POV: My lower intestine while I'm taking a mondo dookie

[@CopeML]

Probably is possible with less marbles of tension weight, seemed as if it took time for the kinetic tension of marbles to catch up once pressure was fully built on closed alley ways.

[@MileRancid]

Something small enough and with tons of itself can behave a liquid lol

[@ianbelletti6241]

I suspect that if you did this in real life with the same design it would lock up due to friction and not solve. The reason these marbles move in the simulation is due to collision overlap.

[@edwardbickford8277]

Nice work on this one Dapper. I think it would be cool to run this maze again using heavier and lighter marbles.

[@Seriously_Unserious]

I would expect it won't make any real difference. Lighter marbles would need less force to move them up. but would also produce less force, and heavier marbles would be same. more force produced, but more force needed to move them up. So I think those 2 factors would just cancel each other out.

[@pinkluver7715]

Nice video showing "displacement physics". I'd love to see how weight/mass affects what happens.

[@PBCrunch15]

This is the most interesting thing ive seen all day

[@vincentleonard3797]

YES! Plasma (green swirly) made it through first! This is the first video of yours that I've seen, so guessing correctly feels really good. Consider me subscribed.

[@nobyle_]

this is wicked dude, absolutely amazing

[@EmericA219]

This is incredibly interesting. Love it.

[@jpyanity443]

I don’t know if it’s possible with the software you use but it would be so interesting to see this recreated where all the marbles are the same color except for the first marble to exit the max. That way we can watch the winning marble travel through the maze

[@Monotail_Razuin]

Thanks youtube recommendation for this video and channel

[@Sturmtrooper1]

Very soothing and fun comentary

[@TheAgentGray]

Weight likely doesn’t have a lot to do with it, at least not in real life but the physics system seems to have some fuzziness, it’s mostly the contact friction slowing things down, weight would increase pressure but also increase friction would be interesting to see how the physics engine handles it though

[@alexh.g.rayner3094]

I picked lava, it looks incredible and it’s incredible that only one went down at first , I thought it would have been a flood of marbles.

[@gibbbon]

they get really stacked on the sides, you should slant/curve slightly the corners so they don't get stuck like that

[@thefunfamily9769]

This was a banger

[@joewebb7197]

I love your marble videos!

[@lionessleeyisrael9578]

Love your vidss

[@benjaminreuter2041]

good job making these for the marbles keep it up

[@AlexanderMcGraw-zi3xy]

I love your videos!

[@catkook543]

i think it'd be interesting if each wave of marbles were all a mono color then each additional wave are all a different mono color that way you could see how your wave placement effects where you are more likely to end up so you could start with red change shades until you get orange then yellow then green then cyan then blue then purple

[@satibel]

you should try shaking the maze slightly, that should increase fluidity by a lot. that's how it is done in some grain transport. (though for big amounts, air is injected in between.)

[@gjmontedoro4369]

Wow I love this

[@ZsomboStudiosOfficial]

This was awsome to see!

[@voidking8587]

An idea for the next marble race is to add a section to the race that brings the random amount of marbles to the start/random section of the race

[@douglashanks4189]

Id like to see this as a time laps just filling steadily

[@imaginarywolf8115]

Can’t wait to see what happens.

[@Finfie]

I think as long as the marbles have the same weight the result will always be the same. The light marbles only need to push light marbles up, but are light themselves and cant push as much. And with heavy marbles the reverse would be true. What might work is to first spawn light marbles and slowly make the new marbles heavier and heavier.

[@lego_by_leo]

I really like how they move, I hope to be in the next one.

[@GayleCarter-ey1qz]

No worries about that fileing the maize just don't have no more laters

[@carolyncorn4943]

It looks rlly satisfying

[@eileennovak1656]

Oddly fascinating.

[@Cosmic_Tortoise]

Amazing idea. :)

[@jdfoxtheking3814]

The fiery marbles look cool af

[@gamerman7276]

This is how it feels to leave a crowded music festival

[@Jojogrec]

I picked orange, which were in fourth place to reach the end. It was however on the bottom of the ones that stayed in, so that's winning in a way.

[@konch7567]

I honestly expected the marbles to not have enough pressure to make it through, but thankfully this ended up being a very satisfying video! I voted for red marbles but didn't win this time. Kind of surprised I hadn't subscribed yet though because I love your content. Keep up the good work!

[@Battleforsupreme]

fire marble looks cool

[@uncommonusername]

agreed

[@mattvaughn6901]

CONGRATS ON 200K

[@darkout706]

looks like the maze that was done with liquids, nice video

[@GR.455]

I think this is the same principle as if this was a liquid, but instead of a flowing liquid it's more like a viscous liquid.

[@Enzo_Excavator]

What a cool idea.

[@Kuromi-Demon-Princess]

Everything is so pretty

[@DaysofElijah317]

The marble pathing is very satisfying

[@abidingknack7013]

Strangely satisfying

[@diegojost3351]

presumably, yes, they'll probably eventually fill up the maze... i think?

[@dindarez2647]

i luv your vids

[@EthanTheWerewolf]

I lost my marbles a while ago, I think I found them lmao

[@SpaceCowboyfromNJ]

I suspect weight wouldn't make a difference. Light marbles would be easier to push around but they'd also apply less pressure while heavier marbles would apply more pressure, but would be harder to push around. So I think it would all cancel out and you would get about the same time.

[@MrAdannor]

Lightweight marbles plus a pushbar forcing them down from the spawner section perhaps?

[@SpaceCowboyfromNJ]

@@MrAdannor Possibly, but I still don't think the weight of the marbles would play much into it (unless what I am thinking of the wrong thing as a pushbar)

[@gekfurian]

Steve Mould taking notes

[@TanishkYT]

Hey this video is educational and fun

[@IroAppe]

You can really see the waves of pressure making it through the maze. It's fascinating, because it is like electrons in a wire. The individual marble doesn't travel through from one side to the other, but you see the pressure wave making it through, and splitting up at sections, getting weaker with time. There is probably some fixed point where it stops, because the pressure wave is getting weaker with distance. And as we see, it takes longer. But it still made it through. I think the video would have been more interesting if you focused more on these pressure waves. It seemed like you didn't notice what is happening there, that the waves make it through the maze, because you somehow expected a result at the end almost immediately. More pressure does help, but the pressure wave will still have a limited speed. So you won't expect a linear correlation between wave and progress. The added distance and added space and added corners has a greater influence. Still, if you just let it sit and watch, it will eventually make it. I almost had a heart attack, because I thought that you will end the video before the end.

[@FRACTUREDFUNGI]

gg on 200k

[@mohammadyousef2176]

I really like your videos😊

[@sophiasouza4122]

I feel like this would have worked better at a higher time scale and a more consistent spawn rate for the marbles

[@Kayzzed_]

The purple marbles be looking like the nether portal

[@fancyflautist]

Yessssss I want a marble 😭😭 I love this game so much

[@mikewood8136]

It would have been interesting to see at what point the flow stopped if no more marbles were added.