Dark Angels vs Necrons Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Battle Report Ep 15

[@Tiern0c]

The dude absolutely nailed it with his comments about Reanimation Protocols: "The answer is to focus fire". Every game I've played in 8th where the non-necron player focus fired ended with a solid win for them.

[@MrStephenlederle]

A lot of people are complaining about the reanimate on protocol with Necrons, however, I was always taught that when you start to wound a unit you should always continue until that unit is dead or you're out of shots. This strategy is very useful against Necrons.

[@im2fluffy4u91]

9:53 "Statistically you should make one of these" *silence ensues*

[@Riverboat374]

I've beaten Necrons a few times. Two keys to success. 1. Bring weapons that roll LOTS of dice. Twin assault cannon. etc. 2. Focus fire of units you can easily kill and peel them off the table one unit at a time. Don't even bother shooting at hard units like vehicles, etc.

[@ictaris]

My C'Tan thank you for your ignorance ;)

[@danielavalsangiacomo6691]

Riverboat to beat necrons, with any army, you move close to them with transports and chaff, eat their turn. Then unload troops ( some mele weapon is advisable in there)! Move even closer, shoot everything at the big blobs of warriors, charge your dedicated transports in, eat overwatch. Multicharge everything into the warriors.if you can pull that off, odds are you won the battle right there when your rhinos make contact with those warriors. They will fall back and you will be getting shoot a bit by the heavy stuff, but the warriors won't shoot. Repeat till the warriors flee. What now, necrons?

[@Riverboat374]

Yeah. One of my victories went about like that. I was trying out a Black Templar Land Raider Crusader loaded to the gills with a Crusader Squad and Grimaldus. Rolled up. Took a round of shooting (Land Raider is so tough in 8. It's awesome!). Disembarked and charged everything. I slaughtered two 20 model Warrior mobs and an Overlord.

[@luske2]

I tabled a necron list a few weeks ago with my custodes and some adeptus ministorum allies. They're weak to fast moving resilient close combat units :P

[@Riverboat374]

Yeah, 7th edition Necron armies are that way for sure. They relied entirely on shooting. But they have a lot of answers to close combat in 8th edition and you better believe those Necron players are at the stores buying their Lytch Guard and Flayed Ones boxes. Necrons can be beast in close combat.

[@devinraine8514]

at 30:15 how are you able to target the librarian when those tactical marines are closer?

[@NanoNaps]

Characters are usually their own unit now. Only a few form squads with some other models but since you can't join units anymore that is how it is. You can't shoot at characters if something else is closer.

[@LimmBurger]

If he completely fired everything at the flayed ones and wiped the unit instead of splitting fire all over the place he would have done a lot better.

[@memnarch129]

Abraxen Flayed ones, or Praetorians, or Guard. Against crons you focus fire.

[@f.n.gesus_7534]

Thanks for showing deployment, I'm still learning and seeing how players deploy is really helpful.

[@anders8204]

At 30:41 How can the praetorians shoot at the librarian? There are models that are closer than the character you're shooting at, shouldn't that be illegal?

[@Zerato]

Anders I forget that rule almost every game

[@luske2]

Yeah Luca fucked up

[@dandegr]

Anders I was wandering the same

[@mrcynicalgooner]

Really fun Necron list, good to see a change from the standard blob of troops. This comments section is hilarious. The amount of salt regarding Necrons blows my mind, They are nowhere near the best army in the game and never have been, yet every edition people cry cheese. RP is not overpowered and was in fact nerfed (unnecessarily) recently. Yes, they can be hard to kill. That's the point. Guess what though? Necrons have plenty of shortcomings you can take advantgae of. They don't have super units that can simply delete squads. Marines do. Tau do. Mechanicus do. Tyranids do. In fact most armies do. Outside of forgeworld (whose models are overpriced points wise and money wise) Necrons have almost no cost effective anti-tank weaponry. Warscythes and our monsters are now practically useless against tanks in CC and our only decent heavy support gun costs over 200 points and is unreliable. And those flayed ones? They cost 21 points PER MODEL! For something with no shooting, 1 wound and a 4+ save! The Dark Angels player took a poor list, at 1000p it is a better idea to focus on one idea and do it well, like the Necron player did.

[@daveman6465]

Don't play necrons but agreed

[@n8great321]

Win or lose, glad to see a Necron list that isn't warrior blob + ghost ark + cryptek. Seems that every bat rep (not just this channel) doesn't stray far from that. Refreshing to see something more off-the-wall like this.

[@tru3prophet793]

Another Necron game... surprised at the lack of space marine games focusing on the new codex. No White Scars, Iron Hands or Raven Guard. Hoping for more codex focus for future codices.

[@petec9467]

Vincent Iannaco agreed. I'm a Necron player but I thought they would have put out reports on each of the different SM chapters. Maybe they built up their back log of filming but then the speed at which FAQ'S and codexs are coming out means they're trying to get rid of the older stuff they filmed already

[@SupremelyconfusedZooBoo2]

Wouldn't mind seeing a tad more variety. Maybe bring out the Thousand sons again?

[@patgray5402]

Royal Canadian Chair Force

[@ShakerGER]

Seriuosly... This guy should never come near to anthing that involes balance. Making necrons not reanimate anymore would put them instantly into the dumbster...

[@cjanquart]

...and they said "they've always had a five up"....uh wrong. "We'll be back!" was a 4+.

[@tigirus4656]

I've played against Necrons a couple of times and I don't really have an issue with reanimation protocols, i mean it's a pain when you leave one guy alive and he summons like 7 friends but I much prefer it to the previous 5+/4+ fnp shenanigans that they had in the previous editions. You just have to be really cognizant of making sure all your units have range to and can shoot 1 squad to really focus them down. Warrior blobs especially are hard to maneuver and you need to focus on fighting just one unit at a time if you can. As for flayed ones, well they do a lot of damage and can deep strike but if you can ensure at deployment that all your units are within 9" of another unit so enemies can't get behind you or use throw away units like scouts to buffer it can really mitigate deep-strike troops which are going to be prevalent in this edition with all the reserve charges.

[@janbos8775]

lol is everybody on holiday except luka?

[@gabrielantona]

I appreciate the different cron units

[@Defektedtoy]

another fun battle report! thanks boys. Luca speaks and plays really quickly. also the video cuts are pretty fast as well.

[@kuya410]

When you charged that librarian in turn 2 you went within an a inch of the bikes that is Ann illegal move as you technically started combat with the bikes so just remember when charging you can't go within an inch of enemy models you haven't declared a charge against

[@daniilosudin290]

Reanimation is good, but against good lists, it will is hard to use it, due to squads being wiped before they can attempt to do it. However failing to finish off a warrior or 2 from a big blob can be a fatal mistake, so usually the threat of the reanimation makes the opponent to waste some of his firepower to make sure that a squad is wiped

[@NecronNb]

love it how people scream Necrons are OP yet they are not winning any tournaments or contain any of the most overpowered units

[@daniilosudin290]

well... Gauss Pylon is a contender, but yeah they are far from top tier in a competitive setting..

[@krilc]

Because tournaments are everything? 40k isn't even a competitive game mate Necrons are probably OP and frustrating in casual games, where you just want to smash armies together, kill, die and have a good time. I've somehow not faced them but i can see how lame it is to have all your kills stand back up, you feel like you achieved nothing

[@RadioCastGaming]

How many 8th edition tournaments have been held?

[@kriscrossx122]

I agree with this. Tournaments are mainly Eldar and SM , lists that have alot of flexibility. SM have always played as build your own unit with the amount of options they have compared to other races. For casual play, lists will not be optimal or necessarily have the firepower to bring down necrons in a single turn. RP is just not fun to play against, regardless of how you determine its balance.

[@daveman6465]

Warriors are good yet they lack anti tank and everything is expensive

[@philippr.9870]

Not that it was importand because he didnt hit anything, but the Flayed One wich piled into the Razorback could not attack him because he didnt charge him. Units that charge can only attack units that they declared a charge against. The Pile in was right tho.

[@stephenswift514]

You don't get cover for standing on a hill. You only get cover for forrests, ruins and craters. Those rocks aren't any of these.

[@daveman6465]

In the start of the game they both agreed it was cover

[@EvansStyle]

In my opinion James's mistake was in splitting his forces green wing & Ravenwing. in small games like this it's better to just do all green or all Ravenwing. Besides keeping the Las Cannon Devs, I would have brought a second LS Vengeance and Sammael in Sableclaw instead of the chaplain. he could have also taken an apothecary and another black knight or two if he dropped the Las cans. Then play more aggressively. Green wing is really only good at defending positions against light infantry.

[@nerdsofnashville6214]

Why did praetorians turn from jump to fly infantry? I'm also confused about what that means for the unit as a whole

[@brokenrooster4338]

Are they going by old wound rules? Don't you get atleast a 6+ save unless it's a mortal wound or did I just not hear it?

[@cjanquart]

Need to roll both dice using command point (charge). Orikan gives +1 to Reanimation Protocols (also 5++ vs. shooting).

[@davethepak]

RP is fine. The flayed ones have poor saves and it is built into their points. You just have to focus fire them down. A lot of bad rolls there, and not enough focus fire in the game.

[@sylerfleck138]

Is Orikan's staff still an assault weapon? If so why didin't he use it on the scouts?

[@primafacia24]

The Lychguard could have absorbed the wounds done to Orikan. They have that ability for characters within 3"

[@theGenxVIRUS]

23:47 he can't attack the Tank bec. they didn't declare a charge on him!

[@Anonoemus1]

This is fine, for the flayed ones did not charge at all this round. If you did not charge you can allocate attacks to everything you want as long as it is close enough. (AT LEAST I THINK SO!)

[@theGenxVIRUS]

Anonoemus1 you're right but they charged this turn 😉

[@LordVolgon]

They piled in towards the nearest model which was the razorback. He even says "this guy HAS to pile in here." Nothing wrong with that.

[@Anonoemus1]

just watched it again, you're absolutely right TheGenxVIRUS he did indeed charge so he wasnt able to attack the razorback.

[@petermuller3995]

Page 182 of the rulebook: "No models in the charging unit can move within 1" of an enemy unit that was not target of its charge. If this is impossible, the charge fails... He cheated to get the Razorback into combat so that it had to fall back and was not able to shoot... I recomend channels where they know the rules and play like friends and not to win at all cost.

[@markw8543]

Signum and armourium cherub are your devastators best friends...

[@jimmyjazz7414]

People complaining about necron RP don't seem to realize that most of our units cost 2x as much as other people's, with way worse weapons. The only thing that makes necrons even okay is their toughness. Without that, they are relegated to the trash. Yea it's frustrating that they stand back up. But its frustrating being a xenos player with a super small selection of units with very few options within them, when every other release is a cool new marine stuff.

[@exdee3719]

Librarians cannot go on bikes in the new SM codex.

[@garethmason7920]

I was about to ask where Dave was etc, but if he's taking a break then can't blame the man :).. If I had the money I would love to fly over and challenge them to 40k. Bring my Deathwatch with Inquisitor Coteaz and Inquisitor Lord Hector Rex.. Got to love the inquisition :).

[@applejhon8308]

Hey fellow commenters! Just starting out here. I've started building an admech army but I have a question. Does the starter pack have the parts to make both a vanguard and ranger commander?

[@ThomasB-zw3sg]

Why didn't you reroll a save for your warlord turn 1?

[@Elipe85]

You can't short the librarian to finish him. There are other units closer

[@ImaNecron]

Wth? You should run Orikan in front of the lychguard because if he only takes one wound, you get it back next turn. Also you can roll to have a lychguard take one mortal instead. They're super good together.

[@LeMondeEstJeux]

I don't know when this report was filmed, but the updated FAQ adresses the issue of re-rolling a dice when attempting to charge (see 6:38): Page 178 - Re-rolls Change this paragraph to read: ‘Some rules allow you to re-roll a dice roll, which means you get to roll some or all of the dice again. If a rule allows you to re-roll a result that was made by adding several dice together (e.g. 2D6, 3D6, etc.) then, unless otherwise stated, you must roll all of those dice again. You can never re-roll a dice more than once, and re-rolls happen before modifiers (if any) are applied.’ Designers most likely realized that re-rolling a dice in a roll for charge distance defeated the spirit behind all new "deep striking" abilities, which is to get units up close, but not close enough to make consistent charges.

[@jamesgugel8598]

I agree that reanimation needs a change either to a 6+ OR for only models you've lost. Rolling for all of your models doesn't make sense to me. If someone disagrees please reply. I'd love to hear your rationale.

[@stevenm2487]

Hey miniwargaming, i recommend for smaller games like this one you play on a 3×2 ft. map instead of the full 6×4. Looks a bit silly with these small armies fighting on such a large area.

[@PassionToShare]

Well it is advised in the rules to play 4x4 for 1k armies.

[@stevenm2487]

Yeah that would probably be better.

[@desroin]

Wait just to get this straight since I dont know how reanimation works, you always roll reanimation for the whole squad you originally had? Why not just change it to roll for the guys who died that turn or am I getting something wrong here?

[@luske2]

You roll for every model that has died during the game, regardless of which turn the model died in. Only way to get rid of their reanimation is destroying the whole squad.

[@desroin]

Thanks for the info and... ouch that's indeed pretty hefty :x

[@EvilDeadFan1995]

He forgot about his Signum at 15:00

[@LordTenebrus]

Aversion is a blessing, not a malediction. You target your own units with it.

[@stephenhumphreys9149]

Nope, sorry, you target an enemy unit. Possibly that's what it was like last edition?

[@LordTenebrus]

That is weird. I could've swore i read it like that...but yeah i double-checked.

[@Lemt]

Do you guys have a Forgeworld Necron Tomb Stalker? I'm thinking of picking one up, but would love to see it in a game first.

[@luske2]

they've used one in a previous battle report, but haven't seen it in a while...

[@luske2]

also that was 7th edition so it's rules are probably very different now :P

[@Lemt]

Yeah, it was more of a "can we pretty please see it played in 8th?". I really like the rules on paper, and they look so awesome... I want to be able to play with them without gimping myself

[@muratferguson4534]

Necrons are not good... funny to see that the tournament gamers think necrons are so weak and many fungamer think that they are so strong

[@nathanWrobinson]

i was under the impression that when you command point a two dice roll (such as the necron charge first turn) you had to reroll both dice. is this not the case? pretty sure it was FAQ'd

[@daveman6465]

Have you read the rule? It's very clear you may reroll one DICE per phase

[@nathanWrobinson]

did you not read my comment? its very clear that i mentioned it was a FAQ. its actually the very first entry in the FAQ

[@SuperHomephone]

COMMAND RE-ROLL Stratagem You can re-roll any "single" dice.

[@grubbie8614]

the DA player maybe should have had 4 Plasma cannons in the devatator squad instead of Lascannons

[@PassionToShare]

Yeah... Lascannons are not that great against Necron, but maybe he did not know he was going to play against them.

[@cowjuicy]

Even just heavy bolters would've been so much better against necrons

[@bringerebrethil6176]

Shot Librarian when infantry still in front.

[@baalfury7633]

Luca you forgot your warlord trait...

[@clokworkpig]

Damn, how unlucky can one player get with rolling?

[@taylersin3421]

people need to note you can never reanimate models that fall back due to morale, also necrons are slow so not much in the way of redeployment.

[@petec9467]

It seemed in the last edition even without decurion everyone was saying that Necron's were OP. Yet you look at the tournament tables and Necron's were not winning. They change RP for 8th and people still say OP. I haven't seen any BR after the last FAQ where those lost from Morale don't come back. I think this might have been to make people take smaller squads and I think rather than changing the RP they maybe need to make it so squads can't be bigger than 10. This would make it more manageable to take out a squad without having to nerf RP. It would also mean that Ghost Arks might actually be used as a transport!

[@NanoNaps]

" I think rather changing the RP they maybe need to make it so squads can't be bigger than 10" I do think this is part of the issue. Killing off big units is easier said then done in some cases especially if a Necron player decides to bring multiple max sized squads.

[@memnarch129]

Agreed. After the FAQ I see bringing 10+ blobs as a liabilty. What would of happened if his opponent had a Redemptor and killed 11 of the Flayed ones? The unit would of lost likely another 4 guys and been whipped. The Morale rule makes blob crons not as viable and promotes elite crons which are easier to deal with.

[@Valinorefuzz]

No marine player will be happy until, all that's left are marine armies. Everything is OP...unless it's XYZ marine color. We will be fortunate to see a alien army in 2018. After 25 colors and shapes of Marines/Marines with spikes.

[@ands1983]

Seriously, stop whining that Necrons are OP. Dice have a lot to say here. Above avarage rolling and Necrons are good, below avarage and they are shit. They are very unstable. Also, you can't fall back when you are surrounded as you can't move through other models. Fall back is still a move.

[@August-cd3mj]

How much is vault membership?

[@williamtorres4140]

zoo king Like $35 a year more or less

[@markusrummler81]

No need to change the Reanimationprotocol Rules for Necrons. Yes it is tough but this are Necrons. It have to be difficult to stop them. It was only so super hard this game because of incredible dice rolling on Necrons side and total terrible rolling on Dark Angels side. So fortune was not nice to the Dark Angels.

[@PROM3TH3US1991]

Luca is a super bad necron player, makes a lot of mistakes and bad decisions. But it is also hard to lose when necrons are so OP.

[@aaronmacdonald5744]

This is ridiculous, where is dave, why is this dude always doing the batreps now, and why is it always fucking necrons.

[@petec9467]

I think that they filmed a lot using the new guys to get them used to filming and Luka's first army is Necron (he uses Chaos as well). I think they've also built up a big back log as some of these that have been appearing recently are before the first FAQ let alone the second. As for Dave maybe he's on Holiday? They're doing well enough to employ more guys maybe he's taking a break?

[@aaronmacdonald5744]

All reasonable, but i still miss dave :(

[@petec9467]

Aaron MacDonald he's not my favourite. But I hope he's back for the Chaos Codex review

[@Spacefrisian]

At least he uses command points now.

[@daveman6465]

Dave is here 😩

[@zackluquette3736]

Rolling for a charge distance. That's the stupidest thing I've ever hear of in a wargame. Just move.

[@2ndGenBen]

Necrons may still be OP but they're a lot more balanced this time around

[@butcheeks3249]

I was first here

[@Robbinio2]

Can Luka stop with the cheese?

[@PhilipRikoZen]

How to fix Necrons (and trust me, GW will not do nothing cause they keep buffing Necrons every edition): everybody focus Reanimation, but that's not the only problem, the other problem is Leadership 10. If you change that every Necrons unit except characters have LS 5 and goes up to 10 at 8" from a character, the whole mechanics change. Right now a Necrons player can simply take 20 man squads and roll Protocols forever cause it's really hard to wipe out an entire unit, but when after you kill 10 out of 20 Warriors in 1 turn, with even a roll of 1 in the Recovery Phase, other 6 simply run away leaving 4 alive, while right now 1 would run away. A GREAT way to fix all the Necrons problems would be to go fluffy (cause now they aren't by a long shot), and give LS 10 and Reanimation Protocols ONLY to units NON characters that are within 8" from a Character. In this way you are fair to the fact that all the Necrons are braindead machines with no singular activity or initiative (not even reactivating themself cause, why a block of metal would want to do anything?), and the operate at best ONLY near a Necrons character, which ARE the guys with the singular activity and channeling all the power. PS i keep talking abount 8" cause that's the Tyranids Synapse, and if living creatures that want to feed need some greater power to focus them, i have no idea why a toaster can shoot and fight like a Space Marine without anybody telling him how to do it and when to do it and where to do it. SOURCE: i play with Necrons basically every other day and i hate them so much, stomped them a lot of times, i play Imperium 2.

[@Crisis_Jones]

need more dakka

[@butcheeks3249]

Guys, if you had a space marine army, could you add blood angles and space wolves, or only one of them?

[@myleskilometres1551]

You can mix and match but they would fall under the space marine keyword. So it would be a "Space Marine army" and not a "Blood Angels army".

[@austinspratt353]

Sparky Guitar you werent first here

[@johtur8739]

i did pretty much the exact thing with dark angels and space wolves

[@NanoNaps]

Yes, but be careful as to what you want to add since most Space Wolves Character abilities only affect Space Wolves, so you won't get all of their benefits. But technically each Imperium army could include e.g. a Space Wolves venerable dread with Axe and Shield.

[@immortallyon8386]

Where is the Grey Knights at

[@ictaris]

Probably after the new Codex Preorder/Release August 5th.

[@Tophatism]

We get it....you love necrons. Enough allready

[@jonathanwancour5342]

Amen! We get it, Necrons are OP. What else do you have lying around? Necrons are good, but man are they boring to watch! At least it wasn't 3 20-man warrior units, I guess.

[@shinjiStarcraft]

I played my brother with 20 warriors and he used a imperial knight and it took three turns for him to take them all out and he put all of its shots on them. I had a cryptex backing them up.

[@Zerato]

PrimusMangus well that's more then 20 warriors also what did the knight have?

[@grubbie8614]

Reanimation nerf could be you can only roll for models you lost that turn

[@Anonoemus1]

It was the old one and it was shitty af... New Reanimation Protocol isn't this strong as long as you focus full units instead of splitting fire, it works quite well.

[@bellportbattlebunker4682]

"New reanimation protocol isn't this strong..." LOL If you have to follow this up by "...as long as...", then when if's and but's become candy and nuts, we will all have a merry christmas!

[@Anonoemus1]

If you think so okay but I have played about 15 games against necrons in 8th edition and it is not hard to handle this rule. I wrote "as long as" because this is a strategy game and you need to use a strategy for being able to fight properly. I did not say "it isn't this strong as long as you trigger miracles and sacrifice 8 virgins before starting to play against necrons". Focusing units actually helps against many armies, doing so against necrons is an easy way to handle them without candy and nuts :)

[@Anonoemus1]

Additionally, the old reanimation protocol was insanely broken and the new one is quite balanced, for they get no other army-specific rules (looking at you, ynnari!)

[@phaseadept78]

Bellport Battle Bunker as long as you focus fire reamimation shouldn't come into play

[@christopherdean4848]

Really fun battle 😊

[@Proposal21]

So sick of necron guy just ruining inexperienced players

[@kidwithAnose]

REPPIN WINDSOR ONTARIO YEAHHHH

[@RadioCastGaming]

Totally over Necron batreps. It's akin to watching people play LD decks in Magic.

[@THEmrPidge]

the way i would make reanimation protocols a little more "fair" would be either you can only roll it at the end of the phase in wich you lost the models but not again after that OR make it exactly as it is but multi wound models come back with 1 wound. re animation destroyers are insane

[@mx3mx3freak]

if you wanna see steve check his you tube channel!!! Mountain Miniatures Gaming

[@lokiragnarok7616]

90% of the time I do not get RP, it is not OP.

[@InvasiveWargaming]

I would have enjoyed this video more if it had less talking.

[@toondankmagician8740]

If I wanted this much cheese I'd go to a dairy farm. Good grief!

[@Bizarrefth]

This may have been filmed before the FAQ, but when you reroll charges with the reroll strategem like you did at 6:38 you now must reroll both dice.

[@TheLinkHero1]

No, that only applies, when "a rule allows you to re-roll a result that was made by adding several dice together" But it says: "You can re-roll any single dice." so it does not fall under that. It would only apply, if it allowed you to re-roll a charge roll, like with the Ork special rule

[@Bizarrefth]

Hmm, reading it over again I can see you're right. My mistake, sorry for the confusion. Good catch

[@TheLinkHero1]

:)

[@MrExeetor]

Reanimation Protocol is sooooo annoying to both play and watch. I just feel frustrated EACH time I see a unit stand up again... hate it. Make reanimation protocol be a groupwide FNP or something instead. I just hate that things that have died get back up

[@MrExeetor]

as in make it the same statistical gain but not after a unit died. Keep dead units dead etc.

[@jpf338]

What the hell the praetorians have in the back?

[@eldunae922]

Necron Jet-Packs. Anti gravity devices or something like that.

[@jpf338]

yes, is an anti gravity device, but I'm talking about the orange thing on top of that

[@chaptermastertushan3576]

those praetorians were made custom for a narrative campaign they did several years ago. The orange stuff is flayed skin, like the flayed ones.

[@jpf338]

Oh, I see.

[@pixel779]

Wow Necrons are pretty good this ed

[@Toxxxic_]

6 up HA this guy is salty.

[@zalaksnametaken]

Necrons again :|

[@langleyzor7547]

recursion armies like the necrons need to pay for that mechanic in troop strength, but they don't. this drives me up a wall. you look at necro armies and skeletons across multiple games and this is the case, but here you have the standard necron warrior with comparable stats to a space marine and "oh, every turn I might come back" I get that is must not be too OP because necrons aren't running the tournament scene, but holy heck if this army doesn't bother the crap out of me. - end rant thanks for the bat raps!

[@Northernmight]

where the hell is MATT?! .. or Even Dave? i don't even like Dave Batreps that much (but i love him for anything else, great dude! :P just not big on the whole silly-banter-thing in game) WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE? GImme ma' matt. OR EVEN A DAVE!

[@auraenchanted2503]

ill sayb this, the dark angels army was better built then anything miniwargaming ever put togeather. seriously deathwing and ravenwing spam lists? and lions blades? could we be any less origional miniwargaming? and im not saying this is fine once and a while but cmon broaden your horizons, you can win games without leaning on a gimmick

[@gb9884]

This new guy is awful. Doesn't even know what units are called and stumbles and stutters with words

[@steinhaynes4179]

It's wounderfull I just love how fucken over powered necrons are

[@NenkotaMoon]

MORE SPAAAACCCCEEEEE MMMAAAHHHHRRRIIIINNNEEEESSS

[@winterweasel425]

139th

[@winterweasel425]

necrons are so freakin OP, look at the BR they are in, i know im a noobi to 40K but i can tell BS when i see some

[@petec9467]

Not OP just can't use the same tactics as you would against other armies. Just requires tactics.

[@winterweasel425]

an army that requires specialized tactics while the others dont i would call that OP.

[@Monkinator21]

This is a game of strategy. If you refuse to use strategy than maybe this just isn't the right game for you.

[@NanoNaps]

I mean, does it make sense to bring a list of Lascanons only against a horde? You have to adjust to a lot of things, but I would suggest simply focusing one unit down at a time is not too much of an adaption.

[@petec9467]

Winter Weasel I would suggest that you apply different tactics against a horde army, a shooting one, an armoured one or a CC. Unless you have an army which is so powerful you don't have to change tactics in which case is probably OP.

[@crazyvolucris]

The reanimation protocol is way over the top... too much dead guy's keep comming back for NO points... that have to be pulled down...

[@skarsik]

first

[@re2553g]

Sadly I am unsubscribing. Change your motto to, "we work and PLAY NOTHING BUT NECRONS"

[@butcheeks3249]

I was actually here first