Dark Matter Episode 8 BREAKDOWN, Review & Theories | Apple TV

[@BTCBlizzy]

I’m still trying to figure out how the bartender saw these two Jasons and just went along like nothing was happening 😂

[@waynehector361]

He was definitely super confused, but probably felt like it was a Twin he didn’t know about

[@Q-Dads]

Cleary that bartender as seen some things, Probably just thought it's best not to ask. I imagine every Jason that visited that bar hugged him too haha

[@TimeTravellingBunny]

i agree. He didn't seem shocked at all. I am sure if i knew someone for some time, and one day saw an identical 'twin', I'd be like..WTF...

[@LadyGodiva0611]

I said the same thing but as a former bartender, there are nights when you’re tipsy working and everyone looks the same 😂😂😂😂

[@sleep_mechuv3830]

my theory is you only get a copy if you enter the box before taking the drugs. So if you take the drugs before you go into the box no copy. Jason 2 had no copy the entire time and he follows this rule. Rewatch every scene when he had to go into the box and he does this. even kidnapping Jason 1 and Ryan. Jason 1 on the other hand didn't follow this rule. He always enters the box then takes the drugs. Even Amanda has copies but not Jason 1 or anyone he took into the box. All the new Jason had an Amanda with them.

[@sandraolson8635]

Great catch. I didn’t notice that evil Jason always took drug outside of box and prime took it inside. That may be crucial point.

[@simsluver]

Dude this is correct. Definitely a great catch

[@sleep_mechuv3830]

also when he trained Leighton Vance, he showed him to take the drugs before going in the box. Leighton Vance even did same thing when finally going in the box of good. the original Ryan also took the drugs before going into the box too with Jason 2.

[@Q-Dads]

Nice shout!! Great theory!!

[@balkrushnakadam7082]

When Jason 1 kidnapped and took into the Jason 2 world after exiting the box and drug wearing off, every decision he made in the Jason 2 world split the universes and made multiple copies of him trying to escape and go to his own universe most of them might get help from Amanda to escape and some went in on their own after Amanda getting killed in Jason 2 world while escaping. So my point is multiple copies of jason 1 already split while he was in Jason 2 world. And that copies of him trying to go in their own universe, and they ended up in same universe. While Jason 2 in Jason 1 world his decisions making multiple copies of jason 1 world so all Jason 1 copies could be gone in to that worlds but ended up in only one.

[@mazvitaselemani]

Am i the only who felt bad for burnt face Jason? The poor guy looked like he'd been through ittt

[@realbosstakea]

Swear probabl opened a door into a sun world

[@ScriptimusPrime]

I counted 9 unique Jasons' in this episode (Numbers taken from the audio description on Apple TV) List below: Jason - Original, protagonist Jason #2 - Usurper, antagonist Jason #6 - Pinkie bandage who buys the knife and spray from the last episode! (Not in this episode) Jason #7 - Attacks Jason #2 in the allyway Jason #11 - Has a burnt face, killed in the restroom Jason #8 - In the hotel corridor who flees Jason #9 - Christmas Jumper who follows Jason in the street. Jason #10 - Is sat in the booth with a scar on his forehead and a black tie around wedding finger Jason #12 - Ushers Daniella and Charlie into his car Jason #13 - Driver who crashes into their car

[@ilikenoodleart18]

I’m kind of confused because where are the other Jasons? Where is #3, #4, #5?

[@ScriptimusPrime]

@@ilikenoodleart18 They're the Jason's in the other worlds visited, in previous episodes. Like the one asleep in bed. Or the ones seen from a distance.

[@Slayerrrrrrrrrrrrrrr]

​​@@ilikenoodleart18Jason that did not make it to the box in velocity facility. Jason that is sleeping next to Danielle(max is alive). Jason that is an insurance agent. Jason that is in jail. Jason that is dead(virus universe). Edit: oh if u wanna consider only the Jasons that made it to world 1 through the box then ignore the above Jasons that i have mentioned.

[@ScriptimusPrime]

@@Slayerrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I think they only Number the ones that we actually see. So I think we've only seen 3 others before Episode 7.

[@grneal26]

they won't be able to chase jason, daniela and charlie though. because it is their 3 combined brains that will take them to a unique place that the other Jasons couldn't go to.

[@nockzilla]

Interesting take

[@Q-Dads]

Yeah, think you're right! 👍🏻

[@plainpixels]

All those jasons have the same pre abduction memories. There is no Jason prime. The camera just chose to follow one, but they all have equal claim. The Jason the camera followed can't prove anything other than what happened after the split, which is meaningless to his wife and son.

[@vitanksi]

Well - it’s gonna be a more than 3 Jason problem. This show started out a bit slow but it’s been getting really good as of late.

[@IvanVelazquez-d8y]

Don't forget, in earlier episodes, Jason #1 placed a rubberband on his ring finger to replace the wedding ring Jason #2 stole, when he kidnapped Jason #1. This should make it easier to track Jason #1

[@yogsothoth4005]

The original Jason has a scar on the bridge of his nose. He acquired this during a scuffle with Jason 2 in ep 1 and it never healed right until ep 8.

[@JulieBarbara]

This was hands-down the best breakdown I've seen of this episode. You got me thinking about concepts that had never occurred to me (or any of the other YT channels)! It hadn't occurred to me that there must be many variants of J2 out there as well, and some of them might have even been in this episode. The idea that J2 is the OG Jason is interesting, but I don't think he is. I agree with the narrator of the video that J1 and J2 weren't created by the box - they were created by the choice of whether to stay with Daniela and have the babies or not. I've been thinking that all of the variants of J1 really do belong here in the prime universe, but if they were created outside of this world when J1 was in J2's universe, then they actually DON'T belong here even though they believe they do. 🤯🤯🤯 The problem with the idea that they just need to travel to a world where Jason never existed is this - it would also have to be a world where Daniela and Charlie don't exist. None of them can travel to a world where they never existed. So I do think they'll probably try to escape to a different world - but it would have to be one where that world's Jason, Daniela, and Charlie/Max are all dead. I think we'll definitely see some J2s and we might have already seen some. Also, even if J2 dies, there are going to be major problems in this world with all the Jasons getting killed or likely arrested, screwing things up for Jason Prime. Even if they seal off the box, they have no way of knowing how many Jasons are out there, so they won't be safe with God knows how many Jasons still running around.

[@Q-Dads]

Thank so much for the comment, we're known here for our theories!! I agree, I think it would be hard to escape reality without some kind of consequence or alternative version of them being created.

[@alambster]

Thank you for this breakdown. My theory-Daniella will want to go to world where Max is alive. Evil Jason will be waiting.

[@MsVirgoTrini]

Damn. But... she can't kidnap him. He will have a mom version there already 😢

[@MrGovindaJiva]

Your theory is just spot on, and would make the most sense. Daniela is the key to escape the other Jasons. Great job mate!

[@--AnonymousUser--]

Don’t forget new Jasons can only be created in the box!

[@technauseated4208]

I honestly think that being in superposition (when the drug is active) & choosing a door is when the copies are made. I think in the quantum state, every door choice creates a copy in every world they could have chosen at that moment that they walk through the door. It's like the moment the state is observed and a state is chosen.

[@balkrushnakadam7082]

Not true, you can see Jason 1 and Amanda seeing their own copies trying to escape from Jason 2 world, so every decision you made outside box also makes copies of you.

[@technauseated4208]

Yeah, the box just gives you access to the infinite universe, as they are being created as well. By entering and using it, you are part of that process, but you know how to leave and visit other versions. So, the box is a Kinko's in that respect.

[@warrick3w881]

Here is my thought...the Jason who actually created the box would actually be the original Jason. Think about it...if the box creates these worlds based on the thought process of the occupant. Then the person using the box is creating these branched worlds so the Jason who invented the box would be the original. We the audience just came into the story from the point of view of the Jason or the world that the original Jason thought of in the box. So by the time we meet original Jason he is in the process of kidnapping his branched Jason. A Jason he wished he was with the wife and kids he wished he had. If that makes sense to anyone feel free to like 😂

[@Q-Dads]

Makes sense to me!!

[@GeneralZod1991]

I still can't accept that Jason2 is the Original Jason... I know he was the one who made the box, but in my opinion...everything will have a happy ending,, and if your theory is right,, damn... I don't accept what happens in the ending.Moreover, we all know, Jason 2 is very evil... so let's see... Daniela & Charlie should have a happy ending with the original Jason in my opinion.

[@balkrushnakadam7082]

Not really, the purpose of box is to cut you off totally from outside interference so your superposition won't collapse, and that drug stops your brain to collapse you out of superposition. What you think inside box is only to choose what world you collapse into, it doesn't create entire universe from your thoughts it just find one matching your thoughts.

[@samueluka7140]

💯 this makes sense to me

[@ojon12389]

I think there's no such thing as an original Jason. Before the moment where Jason had to choose to stay with the pregnant wife or not, they are literally the same person. When their paths diverge at this point, they are both original to their respective worlds. Here's the thing, it's not the box itself that creates the parallel words, but choices made. Before Jason 2 made the box to travel, Jason 1 already exists, as does every possible version of Jason there could be. For the sake of the show though, we can say that Jason 1 is prime because we started in his perspective.

[@glennmartin6492]

I can imagine untold numbers of Jasons returning to the box only to return with stars on their bellies.

[@Q-Dads]

Tagging them, love it!

[@inasuma8180]

Do the rules of superposition apply in this case? As in, there was originally one state of the world. Then when Jason originally entered the box from that world, it created the multiverse because the alternative realities had only just been seen for the first time. In that sense, Jason 2 is in fact the original Jason.

[@Sub20-xx4zy]

I agree. Daniella needs to think of the world that doesn't have a Jason. This would not be the perfect ending though as an ideal world would be one with Charlie's Twin. Obviously a Jason would have to exist there

[@nawwk79]

Jason One, Daniella and Charlie will use the ampoules and head to Amanda's utopia world and then seal or destroy the box there.

[@GeneralZod1991]

I like this theory, and I also have the same thoughts..Daniela already knows where the impulse is located, in the warehouse where Jason2 keeps it..... so maybe Daniela will ask Jason1, how can you travel to another reality, then Jason1 tells Daniela about the impulse...Daniela then took Jason to the storage area to retrieve the impulse... but their journey and adventure in the next episode won't be easy... because the other Jasons will definitely try to stop him... especially since the evil Jason is not 100% dead.

[@insurgewetrust]

she is with a copy the real one was in the car that crashed he had a rubber band on his finger

[@xisigma]

I would look for one where max is alive.

[@MsVirgoTrini]

Not if Jason 2 gets there first... that fall didn't end him. 😮😮😮

Wouldn't work because the 3 would have other versions of themselves there.

[@mahmdFM]

From my perspective, I believe the last universe he entered is not his original one; it only resembles the one he has in his mind.

[@MsVirgoTrini]

That's the one that the box was cemented, and jason 2 broke it open. Jason 1 came out of it. But.. what if that was not even Jason 1? Uggggggh

[@knicknack2370]

OMG!!! OMG!!! OMG!!! You guys are ALL MISSING THE JUICY STUFF!!!! Next week will end the show (no season 2).. LISTEN GUYS!!!! You will see an exponential increase in Jasons next week!!! REMEMBER BLAIR TELLING THEM THAT THE BEES BROUGHT BACK INTO HER WORLD WITH THE OTHER VERSION OF HERSELF??????? WELL BECAUSE QUANTUM THEORY STATES ALL POSIBILITIES WILL INDEED HAPPEN, BLAIR STATING THE BEES GROW 'EXPONENTIAL' AND CONSUMED THE WORLD WAS ***NOT*** REPRODUCTIVE BY SEX!!!!!!! ALL THE ACTIONS OF EACH BEE (MOTION AND ACTIONS) SPAWNED NEW VERSIONS OF THE SAME BEE OR BEES. THE SAME THING IS HAPPENING WITH THE JASONS!!!! EACH JASON'S ACTION (INTERACTING/MOVING/ETC.) IS SPAWNING OTHER POSSIBILITIES IN THE SAME WORLD JUST LIKE THE BEES!!!! MY GUESS NEXT WEEK IS THAT THE SHOW WILL END WITH THE WORLD BEING CONSUMED WITH AN *****INFINITE NUMBER OF JASONS***** THAT WILL ULTIMATELY CONSUME THERE BEING NO ROOM TO MOVE AROUND IN THE WORLD (JUST LIKE THE BEES ARE DOING IN BLAIR'S WORLD). HERE'S MORE THOUGHT!!! BECAUSE RYAN, LEIGHTON, AMANDA, BLAIR, ALL WENT THROUGH THE BOX, THEN THAT OPENED THE UNIVERSAL LAW TO SAY THERE WERE POSSIBILITIES OF ALL OF THEM TRAVELING BACK TO ORIGINAL JASON'S WORLD AND SPAWNING VERSIONS OF THEMSELVES AS WELL!!!!!! THE FINAL SCENE NEXT WEEK COULD BE AN INFINITE NUMBER OF JASONS.....OR INFINITE NUMBER OF RYAN'S, LEIGHTONS, AMANDAS!!!! EVERYONE THAT TRAVELED INTO THE BOX WOULD OPEN POSSIBILITIES OF THEM MAKING IT BACK TO ALL THE CORRIDOR DOORS AND WORLDS..WILD!!!!!! REMEMBER BLAIRS "FIELD NOTES"!!!?????? SHE KNEW!!!!! THAT'S WHY SHE DOESN'T WANT TO GO BACK INTO THE BOX. SHE KNOWS ALL THE WORLDS ARE DOOMED AND ANY FURTHER TRAVELING WILL ONLY ADD COMPLEXITY TO SPAWNING MORE COPIES OF WHATEVER TRAVELS ACROSS.. THAT'S WHY SHE TELLS AMANDA TO FIND A WORLD SHE CAN BE HAPPY IN AND NOT FOLLOW JASON'S DREAM OF GOING HOME...HER FIELD NOTES PROBABLY EXPLAIN THIS PHENOMENA AND THE DANGERS OF OUT OF CONTROL REPLICATION.... THE SHOW ENDS WITH EVIL JASON INVENTING THE BOX DESTROYING ALL THE WORLDS WITH REPITION COPIES OF EVERYONE INTO ALL THE DOORS!!!!!! THERE IS NO STOPPING THIS FROM HAPPENING..

[@thisproductivelife8250]

wow jackpot analysis . I never thought about this . Mind blowing

[@davidbuduen6441]

The ending is the son choosing which world they want to be

[@ofmiceandhens]

All caps ??? Really?

[@Q-Dads]

Ste here - is this not pretty much what I eluded too? An Infinite number of Jasons causing a world to end? I didn’t being it back to the bee’s which is a very good shout. The field notes too, but yeah i think the box brings about destruction.

[@NeterRafi77]

Pandoras box

[@nockzilla]

I think the differences in the Jason 1’s and how the our real Jason 1 ultimately outsmarts the new copies is going to come down to how they were separated from Amanda. It seems our real Jason lost Amanda in a beautiful loving way, whereas the others (as of now at least) seems to have separated from Amanda in more violent or sad ways.

[@ADPeguero]

So, will there be a bunch of Danielas in whatever reality they go if they follow Daniela this time around?

[@Q-Dads]

You can mitigate it by only using one ampule each, then the amount splitting would be limited. Also as all three of them would be duplicated. So they would all have each other and not have infinite Jason’s after one Daniella

[@ADPeguero]

@@Q-Dads jason 1 can also simply do what jason 2 did and block off the box.

[@Q-Dads]

Hopefully with thicker cement haha

[@abhishekprajapati6932]

When Jason(?) visits the bar and meet the "Bar Jason", How the bartender(Matt) who has known Jason all along not surprised seeing two of them? He obviously looked at him.

[@Q-Dads]

I think he was in shock and naturally you'd assume twins before anything else

[@abhishekprajapati6932]

@@Q-Dads I still think it was weird of him not to mention.

[@waynehector361]

He looked pretty confused and shocked to me

[@moseslmps6261]

They need to seal the box or destroy it, before they leave.

[@Q-Dads]

Can you destroy it? I assume if you destroy it, the next person to attempt to access that world would create another when they open the door. So i think sealing is the only option.

[@DIZZY_Travel]

The Jason in the bar is the bad one or a copy of the bad one No scratch on his nose(right side). Most of the scene is showing his left side for a reason for us not to pick on this detail but, there is a few seconds where clearly you can notice that he doesn't have a scratch on his noose. I think he used the clothes (definitely the hat) of the other Jason who got killed at the beginning of the episode. That is just my observation.

[@EV21]

If Jason 1, Daniella, & Charlie enter the box together and then choose a door…whatever reality they enter will likely be next to impossible for other Jason’s to find (intentionally) because the reality concretized by the opening of the door is necessarily dependent on the combined consciousnesses & subconsciousnesses of everyone present. It’s why Jason one took so long to make it back…Amanda being there was making it I possible

[@Dmizzy618]

Jason 2 being the original Jason is an AMAZING theory. I never thought of that. It makes perfect sense. If Jason 2 doesn't create the box, we don't get the Jason that's with Daniella. Just because we (the audience) followed Jason 1 doesn't mean he's the original. The creator of the box is the original because there aren't other Jason's without the box. AWESOME!

[@Q-Dads]

Ben: Thanks for the feedback!! That's one of my theories!! To me it makes perfect sense and hope to be proven right in the next episode!! 😀

[@snibbo71]

That's a far too linear thought process though. Jason 1 can still exist without building the box, but he’s alive and dead at the same time…

[@snibbo71]

Sorry, without Jason 2 building the box…

[@kingdomcitizenship5613]

If they don't explain how copies of Jason 1 manifested in the box, I'm going to be really upset. And I REALLY hope they don't do anything like Oblivion, Avengers, I Robot, The Matrix, and so many other movies did; where if you destroy the original, then all the other versions automatically are destroyed.

[@Q-Dads]

You need to watch the final episode to find out... Our breakdown is out now!!

[@kingdomcitizenship5613]

@@Q-Dads Will do. And I look forward to your breakdown

[@Kingfod1]

if you think about it the Jason that made the box and kidnapped our Jason wouldnt that really make him the OG since he was the one who was first in the box?

[@Q-Dads]

Technically neither of them could be the og? As they both could be a branch of Jason 0. That's right here at Qdads we count in base 0 XD

[@RosebudSims]

JUSTICE FOR RYAN

[@Q-Dads]

✊🏻

[@tobij5186]

@@Q-DadsLMAOO - RLM

[@BigDallas0721]

I actually almost wondered if Ryan could be in the same world that Amanda decided to stay in, but the possibility of that probably slim. Would love to see Ryan make his way back to world 1, and sounds like he was so close for the injections.

[@RosebudSims]

@@BigDallas0721 I think they are, and I don't think the chances are that slim because Jason 2 and Amanda dated didn't they, they probably dreamed up that world together over pillow talk

[@jessicat2304]

This reminds me of when you look at your reflection in a mirror and you see the infinite reflections.

[@Q-Dads]

Ste -I can't relate to this, when I look in a mirror it breaks XD

[@technauseated4208]

I honestly don't see any motivation for other J2's to actively look for J1's world in the infinite choices. Most of them probably don't even know about it and are probably already stealing another Jason's life in another reality themselves, thus dealing with their own Jason-palooza. If they did stumble upon this world, they will probably notice the really high Jason-icity levels and leave for one of the other infinite choices. I want them to go to a world where Max is alive. That's got to play a part. If you think about it, the box is a copy machine, Kinko's + Pandora's Box. So, they could go back to where he was and make some copies. In fact, they could make copies of Daniela and Charlie. If they do go to the box, it is a byproduct of using it, many copies of whoever uses Lavender Fairy and opens any door. It exponentially duplicates users.

[@tobij5186]

I think something important people are missing. The Jason at the police station did not have the band on, whereas the Jason in the car accident did. Perhaps another plot twist by the producers it i personally do not believe that Jupiter is the OG Jason

[@Q-Dads]

It did feel off when he was with that cigar, completely out of character so you might be on to something!

[@insurgewetrust]

the one that crashed had the yellow rubber band i noticed that too, daniela is with the wrong one i think too , se may be the one who had a white think on his pinky at gun store in episode 7

[@HeathenGeek]

I haven't read the book (yet) but I can't help wondering if Chekov's Giant Wasp comes back in the story? Is bringing those giant wasps into this universe something Jason 2 would do? Ooh, Daneilla getting into the box and choosing a world where Jason never existed! Really good idea 🙂🙂

[@tswyoung5223]

Well if Daniela and Jason 1 reenter the box. Other versions of Daniela x and Jason x would also enter the box. In the end there would be a world where multiple Daniela x and Jason x end up.

[@ojon12389]

The theory on how episode 8 will go seems plausible. I can't really see all versions of Jason just disappear or decide to leave. Probably Jason 1 and the family will just ignore the problem and just avoid them. I think the show had to hold back on how many Jasons we see, this includes Jason 2s. Due to how each Jason can compound to more Jasons, having 2 sets of Jasons running around is too chaotic and confusing.

[@MotorBloke]

Look at Jason 1's wedding bands. Im sure when 2 of them in the bar had different rubber bands

[@BigDallas0721]

Yep I rewatched the episodes too, looking at small differences. Looked like a dark/black rubberband versus our Jason 1

[@codycherrington2314]

I really don't like the infinite Jasons plot line. Would have been much more satisfying with just a 1 on 1 with good Jason vs bad Jason IMO

[@BlitzinMackGaming]

If you think that all of the other worlds always existed, then that would mean that the other jasons aren't creating new worlds now. Can't have it both ways. They either all always exited, or none of them did except for 1, and each one after that was created by a choice a Jason made.

[@moseslmps6261]

I think we will have a scene where we will see 1000s of Jasons fighting on open field, and Jason 1 & family try to escape.

[@milescoleman910]

You idea of her choosing a world without a Jason is great man!

[@BigDallas0721]

Great recap, and here for the comments. Love this show. I'm guessing "a" Amanda will be here for finale and I'm still wondering where is Leighton from Jason 1 world is and if he pops back up. So many good theories.. after the finale planning on reading the book

[@arstropica]

Given a lack of specifics about the Jason 1 world, the probability that multiple Jason 2’s would each find the same world is negligible. If multiple Jason 2s were to successfully abduct and replace their counterparts, it would happen in separate worlds that could differ by as much as a blade of grass. Also, I do not believe that there could be more than one box in any universe as the box by definition would be in superposition. That doesn’t preclude multiple Jason’s from inventing the same box, but it means that they would all occupy the same superposition.

[@hdshjs]

The camera fallows the 'good' Jason1, but ofc every of the Jason's rationalizes their choices even those morally bad, some are more objectively 'bad' then the others. But in the end they are like any human - try to be happy and does what it takes to achieve that. I feel terribly sorry for all the versions that are created by Jason's 1 decisions. It's something else to not relate to yourself from 15 years (from when Jason 2 came) and something else to not relate to yourself from a month or two days ago. They are all him. We can not be sure whether the Jason using Jupiter is indeed the Jason 1 (unless we trust audio description).

[@joeleto6508]

If Jupiter Jason is our Jason 1, where’s the rubber band ring? I think it’s all a big misdirect.

[@ruperttheking666]

Right, so loved your explanation hoevermore than each Jason 1 creating another and another and so on, from the moment he entered the box on his own (first time with J2 doesn't count cause he was unconcious), an infinite number of J1 were created, one for each possible world behind the first door opened. We have no way to know which J1 we have been following at any given time but for all intents and purposese they are all J1. We need to consider that a huge number of them perished along the way too. there are also an infinte number of J2 around cause he didn't discovered J1's worls right away and he also created a infinite amount of himselves the moment he stepped into the box. Mind boggling.. I love this show

[@Q-Dads]

The infinite number of Jasons and not knowing which one is the real one is one of the reasons we love the shoes too 😅

[@LoganGraceHope]

I think Daniella was switched a long time ago. She was working with another Jason and she left him for another life.

[@gustavocerveira1310]

Turn on subtitles, they sorted all Jason.

[@Q-Dads]

Turn off the subtitles, and let the mystery wash over you

[@brandon181]

It could be that Jason 2 didn’t decide he wanted to stay in this reality until he got there. So it’s not like the other Jason 2s are aiming for this reality. But I guess the other times he used the box he created more Jason 2s. But also every decision he’s made in Jason 1s world has created multiple realities. So there should be a bunch of realities with Jason 2s with Charlie and Daniella

[@NeterRafi77]

The only solution is for OG Jason and OG Danielle and OG son move to a universe where theur version doesn't exist and destroy the box in that world. Happy ending.

[@cleitondecarvalho431]

The only safe reality is one where the Roman Empire never fell haha

[@Q-Dads]

🤣🤣

[@moseslmps6261]

It makes you think, where did the other Jasons get the notion to return to Jason 1 world, that would mean in their worlds, a Jason 2 took over their family/world and thrown into box and they were finding their way back. That means theres infinite Jason 2's out there that made same decision of taking over a Jason family. But somehow they all ended up in same singularity, as they all think the same way playing out the possibility that they thought same thoughts & feelings before opening the concrete encased box. I don't think they were created from his decisions, because every decision creates a universe where you chose path A vs Path B, etc.. They cant escape to the perfect utopian world, where Amanda is, because there is a Jason & Daniella there.

[@moseslmps6261]

So that leaves a few options, Jason 1 must bring Jason 2 BACK to his original world, set a bomb on a timer, where it destroys the BOX and Velocity at same moment, he gets back in, to get back to his world. THAT or entire family must enter the Box, and think of a world where Jason & Daniella went missing, and they can start over in the new world.

[@FrancisOsih]

Good job on the video! Wonderful, thank you. Although, my suggestion would be to re evaluate the perception of your brand, because you have everything to succeed and beyond. Amazing take, thanks!

[@al28854]

Oh that's Daniela 2, she also came from an 'Alt' universe, like from TG: Maverick .... noticed that same leather jacket ?

[@moseslmps6261]

One thing we learned, that differentiates from each universe, is that the one thing that connects us to our current world is LOVE, love becomes Quantifiable! Its the only thing that connects us over vast distances and time, when person dies, we still love them. It was his LOVE and feeling for hsi family that was able to break through all the millions of universes and lead him back to the right one. They describe that the box will create what you feel & describe, he always FAILED getting to the right world when he wrote down the description, BUT he succeeeded when he channeled the right feelings for Daniella, he remembered the day he fell in LOVE with her in college, which sparked the universal connection and he went through the right door, LOVE is the KEY component that is unexplainable, yet its that powerful that it pinpointed the correct world in a vast INFINITE pile of universes. LOVE is important part of the QUANTUM MECHANICS!

[@moseslmps6261]

no matter how gay that sounds, LOVE is it! Even to us all now. We should LOVE thy neighbor like we do ourselves, and it spreads like wild fire.

[@jasonking971]

More people need to be talking about this show. I dont know if theres more than one book, but if theyre hoping to do a 2nd season and end with a bit of a cliffhanger ill be so bummed if it doesnt get a 2nd season. That one thing i really hate about the streaming era.

[@Q-Dads]

Yeah I think there is only one book. Apple have been smashing it just lately. So I too am hoping for more. Maybe a season 2 with Ryan or Amanda? or a different world?

[@Suchanda_C]

Oh well, my theory about episode 7 seems improbable now. And I am happy for it. 😅 This is so much wilder than I thought. So I am giving myself up to the show and will let it take me wherever it does.

[@Q-Dads]

😂 sometimes for the best

[@moseslmps6261]

There more ampoules in storage center, also, they could have taken the box back to a world where Velocity is there and grab another box of ampoules, keep doing that till you got a ton of them. BOOM NEXT PROBLEM!

[@JohnFilmore-x1q]

I think in the last episode 100s of Jasons are going to show up and they are going to flee back to the perfect Chicago.

[@TheBigKing0]

Didn’t think about it like that, if Jason2 created the box, he’s thematically the original Jason. Like the others existed, but we can only get to them because J2 created the box

[@Q-Dads]

Ste- I like to think the point is there is no original or we don’t know who it is. Jason 2 might have created the box, but That doesn’t mean he is the original.

[@nockzilla]

Just thinking… all these Jason 1’s may actually still be from prime Jason’s home world, and not necessarily belonging outside of this home world. Back in an earlier episode, we saw Jason and Amanda somehow show up in an alternate version of Jason2’s home world, but they showed up at a different time meaning they were in the same world, but a few minutes earlier. Jason and Amanda went to a few bad worlds, then showed back up at the the office where the box was build and watched a past version of Jason 1 and Amanda as they made their escape attempt to the box but were gunned down before they could make it. While that was technically an “alternate” world, it’s not necessarily a “different” world. I think it’s the same Jason 2 world that Jason 1 and Amanda escaped from, but in a different time….. I wonder if Jason 1, Daniella, and Charlie will end up escaping and showing up in an alternate version of “their” home world? 🌎?

[@ghostdog2102]

Escape? Its only 1 way to escape, 1 box, all what all Jasons need to do is wait outside the box for Jason and Daniella. they don´t need to search at all, just wait there

[@Q-Dads]

If they are all waiting there, then surely they would just fight? as they all believe they are jason 1

[@ghostdog2102]

@@Q-Dads Yes but all in same world.. and Daniella is gone, and thats who they are looking for, right? and only 1 of them is with her, so the rest can just make a pact and guard the box... so there would realisticly not be possible to escape. (if) they all seek family life with Daniella... Instead of chasing J and D around forever. send a few after them and rest will stay at the box. nowhere to run, no way to escape.

[@AllyourBase3]

I don't think this will explore alternate Jason 2s, you guys are overthinking it. These are all Jason 1s who know this is their home universe.

[@Q-Dads]

We've been right about things before 🤣

[@fightview360]

The Jasons are already numbered, it says in the Audio description.

[@Q-Dads]

Audio Description! Why do you hate your eyes? Just watch and let the mystery wash over you

[@TheFilmSpace1]

I think they will live in Amanda’s world and Jason will bring a Jason for her. Amazing season !! Jupiter Jason !! So many twists and turns. Apple TV is the best

[@ecbrown6151]

What a banger of an episode!

[@craiggoodman7]

Great and insightful interpretation!

[@albert.escobar31]

I doesn't matter, what matters is the our Jason.

[@denissemc1]

What is sad is that the Daniela from Jason2 world believe our Jason faster that his own Daniela 😔

[@allenrubinstein3696]

Reminded me of the Simpsons Treehouse of horror where Homer was duplicated by a magic hammock. All they need to solve the problem are giant donuts carried by military planes and a convenient ravine for the pile of bodies.

[@SuperSuchties]

damn this episode was a trip

[@Q-Dads]

I'm honestly questioning if I'm the real version of myself after that! 🤣

[@santoshpss]

@@Q-Dads That's the intended effect. I also did the same thing!

[@shadowpapito]

This Video has inspired me to read the book before the 26th ... Peace

[@Q-Dads]

No spoilers if you do 😄

[@shadowpapito]

@@Q-Dads I wonder if off General Principal before you had a chance to reply, alternate me versions that read the book immediately posted spoilers just to be extra Goofy!!

[@tobij5186]

Dude I just ordered the book on Amazon

[@shadowpapito]

@@tobij5186 Copy that ... I just got the digital copy but I stare a screens all day so I am thinking about just doing the Audiobook, but I am wondering will it ruin the experience. Peace and Light ..

[@hdshjs]

What I think can happen is that they would move to a world where no other Jason could travel and manifesting it (as you need to in the box) will be enough to block the onslaught of other Jasons. Still it's pretty sad. I don't entirely understand why the other Jasons (split from Jason 1) can not go to their own worlds but everyone came back to this one marked by this event on Jason1 being abducted. Isn't it that if done correctly the manifestation should take you to your unique world and your unique Daniela and Charlie? Even if two worlds were a second apart. Because every Jason 1 double that manifests inside of the box is manifesting their past and their version of the world where they have been abducted? I'm truly lost. I'm glad that I'm not lost in another version of my world (or am I?) lol.

[@cosmic4455]

the jason battle royale 😂

[@claudiogallucci563]

Great idea she is the key to pick new world so no other jasons cam follow

[@Q-Dads]

Hoping she is the glue to fix the broken reality otherwise doing that may cause more issues!!

[@Metallic-Sun]

Didn't Jason 2 slice his finger a little bit with the knife, because he didn't know how the blade mechanism worked?

[@lastpme]

I bet the Jason who is in jail, is because Jason #2 did something awful in his world and the Jason in jail took the blame.

[@Q-Dads]

WOW now that's a theory! Are you saying Jason 2 tried to change places then screwed something up, and got the Jason from that world arrested? cus if so I like it. Good theory

[@TwinFlyDSW]

I think the abduction of Jason and his attempts to get back home could have created an unforeseen complication resulting in the emergence of these Jason doubles. If Jason2 were aware of this outcome it might have been smarter to eliminate Jason and then assume his identity if this were a foreseen complication. These doubles all follow their own routes to get back to world1. Some made it, some fail but they all splinter doubles who are trying to get back to the same reality. They are all primes in their own right as all have the same memories and are targeting the same Jason2 and family. Seeing they originate from Jason's thoughts it seems fair to assume they also originate from the same reality as the original mind. This was a trippy episode but I enjoyed it. Cannot wait for next week.

[@Q-Dads]

Ben: I agree, this episode was brilliant and mind-boggling at the same time. I'm still unsure on why Jason2 sent Jason1 back to his own reality in the first place and why he didn't kill him or send him to a random word. And yeah I also think they all stem from the first original Jason but what if that is Jason 2? And somehow by him wanting a life with Daniela, he created versions of himself that live with her and ultimately hindered himself. All the copies could be looking for Jason2 rather than how the show depicts then looking for Jason1's world. Not sure but this episode has me thinking. 🤣

[@JulieBarbara]

@@Q-Dads I think J2 didn't kill J1 in the beginning because at his core, he's not evil and he was rationalizing to himself that J1 will be happier in his universe - he even asked him, "Are you happy with your life?" He didn't resort to murder until this episode, when he was attacked by a J1 variant who was trying to kill him. And when he was stalked by another Jason, it became easier to resort to murder - there are so many of them stalking him with murderous intent. Here's my problem with the logic of the multiverse in this series. I don't like the conceit of focusing on the type of universe you want, in order to get there through one of the doors. Like Amanda with her utopia world. It's like they're willing these universes into existence, when it should really just be random. And in that case then yeah, J2 could've willed J1's universe into existence and created that version of himself. (I don't think that's the case though.) I think it makes much more sense that Jason became J1 and J2 in a natural way, by making different choices. And when they're in the corridor, the universe they enter should be totally random. But then there would be no show, because it would've been like a one in a trillion shot that J1 would make his way back to his universe, and J2 wouldn't have been able to keep going back and forth.

[@Jayy-Vlogs]

@@JulieBarbaratrue but they aren’t turning any universe into existence they are just thinking of a world and whatever they open the door to is a world that already exists that is the same or similar to what they wanted

[@JulieBarbara]

@@Jayy-Vlogs That's what I figured, but the narrator of this video (I think his name is Ste) said Ben thinks maybe Jason 1 didn't exist until J2 created the box and imagined this world that he wanted with Daniela. If that's how this works, that doesn't make sense to me. These must be universes that already existed when J2 created the box. Then when J1 and J2 started traveling, new universes were unintentionally created based on their choices. Not based on universes they dreamed up in their heads. That's what I think anyway.

[@waynehector361]

@@Q-DadsI’m pretty sure he sent Jason 1 to his world because j1 felt like he missed out on his chance to change the world so J2 felt like it was a fair swap, he gets the family that he missed out on while J1 gets the career he missed out on.

[@Bezozon]

Why do the other Jason 1s all simultaneously assume this is the right world ? There’s no way they all observed Daniella long enough to all know that’s the right one.

[@arhamimam8547]

Because jason 2 lives here

[@Bezozon]

@@arhamimam8547 they all had proof of that at the same time? Even when Jason 2 was locked in a basement and the other Jason 1s were stealing cars with screwdrivers and crashing into each other? They all just knew that Jason 2 was there? They all been there long enough to observe Jason 2? None of them got there and assumed “Nah this is close but not my world”

[@arhamimam8547]

@@Bezozon I just think they’ve traveled in the box for a month finding their own world. And once they did this one it was the true one for them, or the closest one. There might be a chance its not theirs and their are few differences, but who cares, all the jasons believe their the original one and they’ve got their family back. They know they’re are infinite world they might never truly know which one is theirs

[@Bezozon]

@@arhamimam8547 this might be the “very similar but too chaotic” version 😂 But hey I’ll go with it. I don’t wanna Terrance Howard the show I was just pointing out an idea

[@Bezozon]

@@arhamimam8547 traveling in the box for a month could have made his subconscious draw out a world that reflected both his desires and anxieties all at once. Manifesting a very similar world where they all show up frantic and desperate. Crashing into each other and competing 😂

[@nathanmckerrow9059]

Great show, who knows where it’s going

[@Metallic-Sun]

There aren't going to be that many Jasons. A lot of them got killed off and probably most of them ran out of vials.

[@avshiavital8326]

By the same logic, every time Jason2 took a ride in the box, he naturally branched out into otherJasons, all eventually returning to the original universe. Where are they?

[@Q-Dads]

Exactly! Hence why we asked the question.

[@ThePackDad]

Did they ever explain whether the worlds are newly generated at the moment or as a result of the door opening? Or are they all worlds that already existed?

[@Q-Dads]

They should already exist

[@ThePackDad]

@@Q-Dads Thanks. I wonder why they didn't cover how they all are smart enough to realize only one can be in the correct world, yet none mention it. Meaning the vast majority are mistaken and could work together to make more ampules and learn from J1 how to get back to a specific place like he does rather than abandon their original family.

[@loladiaz3534]

No idea how they are going to wrap it up in one episode

[@NzoTiano]

Has anyone brought up the issue of multiple Jasons getting caught by the police? Or finding the dead body in the University, the two car crashes in the middle of the street.. It’s kinda of a convenient plot hole

[@Q-Dads]

We mentioned this is the video, as we too, wonder what will happen with all the random bodies and jasons

[@milescoleman910]

All the Jason’s that make it back to Daniella in world one ARE Jason 1. Just made slightly different decisions once in the box. Most of them would have died. Somewhere in some world or not made it some other way. Many stayed with Amanda. None of these Jason’s are more righteous than any other they all lived the same life up until the box. We just happened to have followed the narrative of this one Jason.

[@TimeTravellingBunny]

So all the realities existed before the box was created. All the box did was allow a connection to those worlds. The problem is, at the point of the very ever first split (i.e. the first event in the life of Jason maybe aged under 1, when things could of gone a totally different way) does that make a Jason 2? or is it just creating a split so we have 2 Jason time lines? Neither of which are now an 'original'. it just two worlds, where the event went one way in one, and a different way in the other? We have only ever followed the one timeline world, but that's just one path of a decision making path. My big question is why all these Jason's heading for this particular time line? Surely there are better timelines in this infinite number of Jason's? There must be one where he bought a lottery ticket and won $145m? for example? or one where their other son Max survived and the couple are happily married with 2 sons? or daughters!!

[@TimeTravellingBunny]

What I was trying to say is....just because an event goes one way , for one guy, it also goes the other way for the other guy. So both are the original. Just with different eventuality outcomes

[@desallis]

this Universe is cooked with Jasonpalooza, Jason 1 and family have no choices to bail on this universe

[@Q-Dads]

I agree 👍🏻

[@NeterRafi77]

Jasonpalooza 😅😅😅😅😅

[@mulatso7959]

Never heard caffe pronounced like that before.

[@Q-Dads]

That's England for you 🤣

[@milescoleman910]

I think they will head to a world where the other child didn’t die.

[@MsVirgoTrini]

Jason 2 belong to his world with no kid. He didn't even know his son had allergies. Jason 1 is the sole original in this world. Bar Jason said he lost his wife, right? They gotta destroy the box to get rid of all other Jason's. But I need to know what happened to his friend and the lady who is stuck in the GIANT hornet world. AND the blk DUDE who is coming after him vs his dble who gave up his life to go into the box. Are they gonna clash.. ? Toooooo many questions unanswered.. my brain 🧠 😫

[@denverhartnick2355]

Bar Jasson ,burned Jason,Knife Jason lol

[@djash7161]

Any reviewer who doesn’t praise this show I have unsubscribed from shows their lack of understanding

[@sim-ej3xn]

People have their own opinions and tastes. Your what they call narrow minded and easy to control.

[@Q-Dads]

Yeah, everyone does have their own opinions but we like the doors so you're welcome to stay subscribed to us 🤣

[@dhul_qarnyan]

I’m confused how can there be Multiple Jason 1’s with exactly the same background. Isn’t that the whole point of the multiverse every version had a slightly different background story so why would they all think this is their world.

[@babs7684]

Once the first Jason had set his path to go back to his world, every choice he made with Amanda in the box had created another version of him. These Jasons are all the ones who make it ba k but have had different experiences in the box, so who knows how many of them there are.

[@ITS_ALL_LlES]

Jason 1 made infinite amount of choices, decisions, and sub-conscious thoughts whilst in the Box. Hence, different Doors were chosen, different Worlds entered, and so on. For instance, there would be a Jason 1 out there who opted to stay in the ‘perfect’ word with Amanda.

[@arstropica]

The way I that am thinking about it is that every time he opens the door in the box, he creates a fork in a road of possible futures. One path leads to the world behind the door, and the second path is a future in which he never opens the door. So every time he opens the door in superposition, an extra Jason will be created that didn’t open it. This potentially happens for every door he passes/opens when he is in superposition. if this theory holds , then there will be a tree of Jasons that are created from Jason 1. They will all have slightly different background stories from the point that Jason first entered the box. Before that point, they are the same person with the same background.

[@Dwainegnd]

@@arstropicaits not about which door you open its about what you are thinking when you open it

[@arstropica]

@@Dwainegnd no - if that were the case, then there would only be one door. - which begs the question: why are there multiple doors, when what you think affects what is behind the door? I think it's the the same thing as the monty hall problem - i.e. the difference between a magic door (e.g. aladdin's lamp where opening a door is like rubbing the lamp) and the show's version of infinite doors, in which the human brain cannot deal with being both in an observed state and being the observer. The brain's ability to process information about quantum states is limited to 3 (or 4?) dimensions, which is why it perceives the superposition as multiple doors, each with a probability of a opening on a certain world. Like the cat in the experiment, the multiple doors are classical representations of the quantum states of the same door. Opening a door triggers a collapse into a definite state. But what would happen if you opened the same physical door twice in succession while thinking something different each time? My theory is that since the collapse has happened, the brain's premise of having infinite doors each with an equal probability of a different world would be altered due to variable change. It would be like Monty pointing out that the door contains a goat - information that is existentially impossible to deny (even with Ryan's drug). So yeah, what you think affects what is behind the door - but only to the point of what your brain is capable of conceiving.

[@unclejezza]

Every time he says Jason, you drink

[@Q-Dads]

We've yet to see Drunk Jason, but if we did this I would most certainly be drunk Stephen.

[@TheBigKing0]

Rip

[@AmazingJayB51]

Bar Jason said he had more ampules and a gun.

[@Q-Dads]

Im sure bar jason said it was his last one.

[@NYCYDDG]

Is Daniela with the right Jason? When did the first (original) Jason get the cut on his nose?

[@broshrddg]

Jason1 got that cut when Jason2 abducted him.

[@UNDGT]

Do we even know that's Jason 1 with the black coat. I don't think so. I think the one in the car crash is the 1

[@Q-Dads]

The one at the end new the code word

[@UNDGT]

@Q-Dads I know but I was thinking maybe the wrong one cane to her 1st

[@Sickheadz268]

WHAT IF og Jason died at the beginning of episode 9 :o

[@datdudeinred]

I can think of 2 reasons why Jason 2 shocked after acquiring the 2nd knife. 1. Maybe because his world didn't have otf auto knives. Or 2. He was shocked how the 2nd jason he kills has different knife than the 1st.

[@dude-man]

I think original Ryan will save em all 🤔 he was "a smart mf at one time"