Dark's ridiculous strategy vs Clem's NEW Mech - StarCraft 2 (IEM Katowice)

[@bigbakaboon]

Dark is easily the most entertaining player to watch because he uses almost every unit available. And the ability to micro all those is extremely impressive. Thanks for the games.

[@Levm17]

That's exactly why I watch daylie uthermal

[@jordanlalonde8960]

Winter you're the best SC2 caster out there! I love the dry humour and the memes you use. The way you ask people to like and subscribe is also super slick. You've reignited my passion for this game and got me playing again. Keep up the great work! Thanks!

[@blorby]

Strongly agree

[@bigbakaboon]

same

[@asmallrat]

At first I hated how he sounds like an Animaniac, but now I love it!

[@bigbakaboon]

@@asmallrat which one? yacko? wacko? or dot? Also which one do you sound like?

[@cedrebleu7181]

Agree, i'm just wondering why Kevin Spacey's doppleganger is trolling the SC2 cast scene :p

[@nait5340]

i'm not the biggest zerg fan around, but watching dark play is just a joy. most entertaining zerg by far.

[@ManDuderGuy]

I hate zerg, but Dark makes it alright.

[@rahjoth]

Agree 100%

[@Iseenoobpeoples]

Insane play by Dark, 6 hatches and Hive by 9min, using the gas from the missing +1 attack to tech up faster and compensating with Adrenal giving him even more strength than if he went +2 attack in the mid game.

[@SwordSniffer]

I come here, day in and day out for that juicy coconut commentary and yes I am one of those who loves to 2 base Nydus.

[@usmckirby100]

I love how dark is just walking around the tech tree like he is sampling cheese, just going from mild cheddar one moment to provolone another.

[@SimaoRodrigues...]

24:20 Concerning coconut treats, here in Portugal we have a really delicious one that its basically a mix of egg yoks, sugar and and shredded coconut (without the shell). Puttem together, and you have a sort of paste (you have to shape them like balls) that goes in the oven for idk like 10-20 minutes max, and its pretty good.

[@TheRealXartaX]

In Thailand they have a pretty tasty dessert that uses (thick/sticky) coconut milk with rice and mango. I think it's literally called "Mango sticky rice".

[@SimaoRodrigues...]

@@TheRealXartaX That sounds sweet! Like literally, it sounds pretty tasty.

[@TheRealXartaX]

@@SimaoRodrigues... You can probably get it at any local thai restaurant.

[@GarretGarlinger]

Jimmy forgot the Video at end.

[@drawnsequence]

24:28 Coconut flavor is the best. Bounty bars are divine. You sir, are outta your coconut.

[@CorwinTheOneAndOnly]

Game 1 was absolutely magnificent. Roach ling infestor? Mass cyclone into ghost mech? Gorgeous. Just shows that good games can actually happen if you remove stim bio from the game.

[@TheNerdForAllSeasons]

That wasnt a good game. Mech is supposed to smash Ling/Hydra with efficiency. No one on earth would say this series was Clem at his best.

[@restlessfrager]

@@TheNerdForAllSeasons Of course, Terran is supposed to smash everything, that's why only when a Terran player plays poorly can they lose :^)

[@bahamut256]

@@TheNerdForAllSeasons Brilliant observation, too bad that was bane brood lurker.

[@TheNerdForAllSeasons]

@@AntiDoctor-cx2jd Didnt stop Time.

[@TheNerdForAllSeasons]

@@restlessfrager No, Terran players just don't go mech often enough because they're addicted to MMM with Stim.

[@zastar]

41:05 when every building you own is blinking red on the minimap lol

[@seventyfour8256]

i imagine clem just seing this and hopping to every base with his cam, trying to order around every unit that s left, until zerg slowly closes in from every edge of the screen whilst doing so. At one point he takes a deep breath and leans back into hist chair and just goes: "alright... let s just... not... " and surrenders.

[@arandomperson8336]

Thanks!

[@TehGnomeh]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... No "Welcome back, to some ProFESSIONAL StarCraft." Threw me off

[@taulitaulington197]

24:30 have you tried just a fresh, young coconut? Cause that might change your stance on coconuts.

[@natecw4164]

I always love seeing a build with a dash of new flavor. Triple upgrades for all 3 races is woefully unexplored potentially fruitful territory.

[@dalekoop2207]

I will always appreciate you Winter... I've been watching on and off for years... First caster i watched was Husky, and after he left... i found you... so glad Im here!

[@SanteeDakota]

That was beautiful zerg chaos

[@WolfGangDealers]

My favorite zerg versus my second favorite Terran. This is an exciting matchup

[@jakubocwieja5422]

What happened to 20 scvs at 38:26?! 81 -> 61

[@seventyfour8256]

gone reduced to atoms.

[@jakubocwieja5422]

@@seventyfour8256 but HOW?! I don't see any run-by or anything. Winter mentions Clem has 81 SCV. Then the number drops to 61 instantly. Soon after, Clem looses. Magic!

[@SJCOFFIClAL]

I was wondering the same thing! I didn’t see any of darks units attack

[@cedrebleu7181]

Another entertaining game and cast, gj sir 🥥🥥😸

[@RYXPfan]

@24:30 I don't know if I've ever agreed more strongly with you Winter. Coconut is kind of the worst. Eating whole coconut is okay, but coconut flavored stuff or shredded coconut succccks.

[@bathroomlew]

Dark is like zerg build with a pineapple. - You might hate it, or you might love it, but for some, it just works (when it shouldn't). Dark is my hero, he's every Roache's hero as well. A Dark workhorse of the Zerg.

[@twe3t86]

37:10 if clem targeted the debris, would it have killed that giant zerg push ?

[@theanti-hypemonitor9079]

Man i just love Lurker dives like in game one! thats sooo broodwar :D

[@yharnamiyhill787]

I always love when Zerg wins. :O

[@JayBird84]

Attila the Hun looks down on his thousands of children, doing battle in The Valhalla that is SC2

[@JollyGreenWizard]

My argument with the golden mineral wall is that it doesn't unfairly advantage mules over workers (as far as the needed trips)

[@mythilicar]

easily the best thumbnail of any yt video ever

[@100thMkey]

Now this is Starcraft2!

[@bobevans3209]

Two base nydus all ins are fun!

[@Arbaal]

WHAT A SWARM! 39:54

[@Codingforce]

Hi Winter, from a man which had only heard bad things over the years about you, i got to say, after watching many vids over the last weeks, i love you contend and you are a very entertaining and also professional caster. Thanks for the awesome contend!

[@EXG21]

Only Winter can have a small rant about coconut flavor. Ha ha.

[@ludo1764]

You have my like and subscription, for the syllable fund!

[@empororziehr]

You should edit the Dark Playercard with his Evil Goatee

[@parabola1902]

I'm not a starcraft person but i have enjoyed your videos. Thanks for sharing.

[@dylanhunt3855]

That medivac drop feeling a lot less comfortable. LOL!

[@devonclyne2915]

Always make my day better winter

[@SmallzSC2]

How could winter not give us a kill count on that lib in the main?

[@patrickcrayton3622]

Speed bancheese is what you were looking for.

[@AskZch]

I am a simple man (as I stated before)... I see Winter's new video, I see Dark in the title, I click like beforehand and then click play.

[@GSteel-rh9iu]

Brilliant coconut commentary 24:18

[@McTerrox]

dark and bly are these kind of palyers to put coconut and pineaple together on pizza. but dont even eat it then, they just do it to show they are different bread.

[@Ulti_H]

holy shit I felt that coconut flavor two base nydus all in callout 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨

[@gilles22]

Thanks for beeing you Winter ♥

[@ben-we]

i haven’t been welcomed back for several days now. my life has turned up side down. my wife left me. my dog died

[@Carlosdanielpuerto]

Stay strong buddy, don’t let these hard time doubt and stop believing in yourself

[@DoctorHyperions]

We welcome you to the coldest winter with wide arms. Come find shelter in Jimmys Madhouse, just dont piss off Brenda

[@Devillionaire]

Dark is the gatekeeper that repeatedly keeps Clem out of the GOAT conversation.

[@MrGeorgeFlorcus]

He is infamously a gatekeeper to all non-koreans, very few can punch through him

[@VictorManuel-rs9he]

Was winter streaming this on twitch?

[@masterlinktm]

Always

[@kobragangbit]

love u winter my favorite starcraft teacher

[@ZakRobertson]

You need to have a well made rendang.

[@glennriter5965]

I'm gonna be honest I feel like at the start of the video you were pretty biased towards Clem here, but... Dark is awesome. Yes he makes mistakes, much moreso than the other players at his level. But he also gets a lot of wins because he doesn't rigidly bind himself to the optimal build order the way that most other pro players do, and that unpredictability is difficult to counter. He's also a complete blast to watch, and that counts for a lot.

[@squirrelgray945]

It was a long walk but coconutty was worth it.

[@Tomoyuki_Tanaka]

Clem needs to learn hypermech from Gumiho.

[@phosphate66]

damn winter even throwing up the dunning kruger chart to educate the gamers

[@MrGeorgeFlorcus]

XD who tf stutter-steps Broodlords?! That’s how you know it’s a Dark game

[@DvsLucas1088]

Did winter just compare coconut to bronze league nydus plays?

[@alialali9947]

I actually really like coconut..

[@mariusmaxximus1520]

Love me some Darkness

[@Halak014]

I just can't let the "funny" stat card at the start go, like if the affixes where true who wold win, like snipe on every unit? Scv can snipe?, but 25% less mineral on units? omg that be so chaotic i can't figure out who has an advantage. not to mention the other stats...

[@fonze5664]

Hey its one thing to talk bad about coconut in sweets but I'll hear no more of this slander against 2 base nydus all-ins! 🤪

[@Hungryj1111]

Good call on coconut flavours. Want some good tasting coconut? Malibu Coconut liqueur and Root Beer. Warning: women's underwear may become removed.

[@Neohampster]

nah nah nah. TURBO mech.

[@victormegir3041]

I super love coconut 🥥🥥🥥

[@ericwolf9664]

Your opinion on coconut is noted, counted as incorrect, and summarily dismissed.

[@IUse2haveALife]

Love u winter

[@bongkem2723]

Dark make it looks easy to play ZvT until Oliveira shows up ;)

[@space_orphan]

He beat Oliveira in the group stage... Oliveira barely beat Reynor in ZvT, but reynor's ZvT isn't as good as Serral or Dark.

[@bongkem2723]

@@space_orphan In the single game winter casted Oliveira vs Dark, Dark had a hard time cracking Oli even with 15k in the bank and constantly in the offense for 30min until Dark is broke and gg ;) Oli beats Reynor, Hero, Maru all in one tournament so no one on earth doubt his skill now.

[@space_orphan]

@@bongkem2723 yeah, but what winter didn't cast was Oliveira getting stomped by dark in the other 2 games that series, losing 2-1. Also not yet cast on this channel were Oliveira's group stage losses to Neeb and Ragnarok. Overall this tournament his TvZ map score was 4 wins, 6 losses, not exactly worthy of the "best player in the world" title. He was carried hard by his TvT, which is the matchup that changed the most in the recent balance patch with the huge changes to the raven. The patch massively impacted Maru's heavy raven TvT style, which is a big reason Maru said he was most worried about TvT this tournament. Look, Oliveira's win in this tournament was impressive, don't get me wrong. But it doesn't make him the best player in the world. Not by a long shot.

[@bongkem2723]

@@space_orphan well anyone who can beats Maru in a best of 7 (not by luck as in a bo3) can be considered the best player in the world, Ragnarok don't stand a chance against Maru with a 0-3. Oli is the new star and we should be happy to see a new face in the sc2 world ;)

[@space_orphan]

@@bongkem2723 TvZ and TvT are very different matchups. By map score, Maru actually had a better score than Oliveira this tournament. And no, TvT isn't the only matchup that matters, as you seem to be suggesting. No one is the best player in the world based on one match. I would happily bet on Maru over Oliveira in the next tournament, if you want to put money where your mouth is.

[@ggmg7178]

Just for the coconut hate, I would like and subscribe again if I could.

[@MrCreed145]

Dark is the one player where ya hes always top ten but barely top 5 half the time, but at any time could potentially beat serral or maru with some random crazy stuff.

[@mikegamerguy4776]

The word's "Dark" and "Ridiculous" in the same title... I am compelled to click. Dark may not be the best, but he's my favorite tied with Scarlett bc I lean pretty SJW and I want more women in ESports and Chess, and STEM, etc. And she's Zerg, and she's damn good. There should be at least 3 special awards for every SC2 season for pros: Macroangelo, Microangelo, and Most Creative. I can't think of anything catchy for most creative right now. But maybe have each race give out the awards. Just a thought for a fun community vote, or caster selected, or pro selected sideshow.

[@ИванИгревский]

Enforce any sc2 championship to have certain gender balance at each stage. No less than 50/50 to final. So some top Koreans will have to switch. Does social justice work like this?

[@p_serdiuk]

Scarlett became interested in SC2 before transitioning so she doesn't count.

[@mikegamerguy4776]

@@ИванИгревский No. Look at what FIDE does with Chess to see what social justice looks like. They have women only titles and tournaments, yet the women are more than welcome to compete with the men. The issue is far more men play than women, and that's because historically women were thought to be stupid and discouraged from education or academic pursuits. It takes a very long time for that kind of shit to balance out. Many generations in fact. As a result men in gaming and chess have a far larger talent pool, so you will find more talent. It's the reason small colleges don't play big colleges in sports in the united states. They have their own divisions. So women have a smaller talent pool, but they should still be rewarded for their achievements and, more importantly, encouraged to participate because there is no parity between men and women in gaming or chess. The lack of parity in gaming is because the gaming industry catered to men for most of its history. Only now are the fools realizing that women can be milked for money just like the boys. Back to FIDE. FIDE has titles reserved for women and tournaments reserved for women to encourage women to play more and give women more role models. And if you don't think women are still dealing with more bullshit and prejudice than men are, you just don't know many women. It's not hard to understand unless you're just an asshole. TLDR: You made some bullshit up that is absurd and if you really wanted to learn, there are plenty of examples to learn from.

[@DJBufotoxin]

gg

[@verihimthered2418]

5th!

[@verihimthered2418]

Ah missed the podium

[@larrywatson5022]

Fuck, I'm late

[@Czarborough]

That’s because Zerg IS overpowered 😏 Kappa

[@Theredbaron8497]

second

[@bonkeldonk3578]

fin

[@ezequieltellez9082]

like

[@Fhrorin]

first

[@Nonkokdiko]

Unsubscribed... put some respect on coconut sir!

[@seventyfour8256]

subscribed. DEATH TO COCONUT FLAVOR (the natural taste isn t that bad but still)

[@viewbens]

this match is a joke tbh just yikes

[@TheUrratha]

I implore You to dial down the unit color intensity to the lowest.

[@sejamstihm]

Oliveira rules, OK!