Submarine #1

[@goldspartan6594]

I frikin love watching a creative and visionary and persistent engineer work for his dream to come to reality. It’s a beautiful story.

[@tomjustis7237]

I had heard of the "Holland" being the first U.S. submarine but never knew any details of her design or designer. Thanks for the info! Who would have guessed that the IRA (or some similar organization) helped fund and support an Irish immigrant who would revolutionize American naval warfare? Truth really is stranger than fiction!

[@michaeltelson9798]

Just don’t get him confused with the other Holland. Clifford Milburn Holland, another engineer who designed the Holland Tunnel across the Hudson between New York and New Jersey. Both men were great in their own ways

[@jamesbugbee6812]

Drug smugglers remain @ the forefront of small sub innovation.

[@webbtrekker534]

@@jamesbugbee6812 They are semi-submersibles and rely oh high speed and low profile. As the old saying goes; "Any vessel can be a submarine once!"

[@davidbostock6933]

Someone should make a movie about Holland, oh wait: John Philip Holland: aireagóir an fhomhuireáin nua-aoisigh TV Movie 2016

[@tomjustis7237]

@@michaeltelson9798 Didn't know about Clifford Holland. Thanks for the education!

[@locoHAWAIIANkane]

“There are cases in which the greatest daring is the greatest wisdom."

[@jamesmcgrath1952]

I used to play on the Holland II when I was a kid. It was on display in Paterson, N.J. West Side Park. It's now in a museum.

[@vondumozze738]

I played on it too but I was so young I can't remember the name of the park.

[@jamesmcgrath1952]

@@vondumozze738 Yeah, it was Westside Park.

[@robr2389]

Being retired from the USN submarine force, one thing stands out. Submarines, like aviation, catapulted by leaps and bounds during the 20th century. Still getting better all of the time. Like with most technology anymore, buy the latest and next month it's nearly considered last years technology.

[@Mrgunsngear]

Thanks

[@napoleonwilson3912]

You should get a Holland clone for your lake.

[@AdamosDad]

My ancestor George Dixon captained the CSS Hunley.

[@charletonzimmerman4205]

There was a Submarine Tender, called the Dixon.

[@AdamosDad]

@@charletonzimmerman4205 It could be a reference to him or just a coincidence in history, thanks, I will have to look that up. You also have the same last name as my stepdad who was a great guy to my mom.

[@kdrapertrucker]

@@charletonzimmerman4205 also a sub tender called U.S.S. Horace L. Hunley.

[@Nightsd01]

I am trying to understand who your source was at 1:01, who is "Tabir El-Taisir"? I've tried looking up so many variations of this name but cannot find anything - you must have gotten this from some book? :) Edit: ah, for anyone else who is curious, the name is Tahbir al-Tayseer

[@chpet1655]

You should do the Spanish Perel as someone in the comments suggested was built in 1888

[@barrylucas8679]

Another excellent episode, thankyou

[@CachingCadre]

It's a shame that it wasn't preserved.

[@wayneandrus307]

I love these very well done videos.

[@Nitromessiah]

how about the USS Alligator? lost at sea before it could fight, many consider it the first.

[@webbtrekker534]

Again, a one off. And you forgot Turtle in the Revolutionary War that actually made attacks though unsuccessful.

[@gijake1989]

Or the Hunley that did make a successful attack. Damn thing sank twice with hands on board before sinking the housitanic and sinking again with all hands. Can't wait to see it in South Carolina some day.

[@mrbaab5932]

@@webbtrekker534 🐢 turtle power

[@mrbaab5932]

@@gijake1989 I thought he mentioned it with only about one sentence.

[@Intrusive_Thought176]

It wasn't even modern

[@dutchman7216]

The Holland much like the USS Oregon. I wish would they would have had the foresight to preserve these wonderful ships of history.

[@slcpunk2740]

Preservation costs a lot of money. There's already too much spent on the modern equipment nevermind the old. Unless there's a privately funded museum that is going to pay for maintenance, they should be scrapped.

[@dutchman7216]

@@slcpunk2740 still would have been nice if it were they would have saved the USS Oregon.

[@mattmiller4613]

Bad ass! Thank you very much. Great video sir!

[@ghostsy]

What's the black and white film you used in this. I assume its a film about Holland i would be interested to see that film thanks as always for all your Dark vids :)

[@williamwintemberg]

Nice Work!

[@richard8626]

History is history, many things you left out that are easily found.

[@John-gm9ys]

You should visit the Huntley Museum in Charleston, SC. There is much more to the story than you shared here. Could be a whole video.

[@NaYawkr]

Holland was built and tested in New Suffolk, long island on Great Peconic Bay.

[@fuso8639]

And no mention to the spanish Isaac Peral Submarine in any kind? In 1888 became the fastest submarine of its kind as well the first submarine in have a reliable underwater navigation system and the first one of be powered by batteries May i mention that is by many the first modern submarine, It got also a 14in torpedo tube with 2 extra torps for reload

[@davidbostock6933]

Wonderful video that I am grateful you have posted, but is lacking two things I would have liked. 1) List of sources, missing from nearly all KZbin videos. 2) Some mention of motorized Ictineo II. It was inspired by health hazards to coral divers of Spain. A lot of information on underwater boat operations was published by it's inventor. Project was rejected by Confederate States military of US Civil War that developed there own crew powered Hunley Submarine that I also don't recall being in your video. Ictineo II was powered by a fuel that generated oxygen as it "burned".

[@paulheitkemper1559]

I like the German UBoot footage from WWII. Gives you real credibility.

[@eze417]

The Confederate Navy refused to accept the Hunley. This submarine was under Confederate Army command.

[@scarface1499]

Happy Submarine Day!

[@k3D4rsi554maq]

Indeed!

[@hypercomms2001]

08:38.... was USS Holland Nuclear Powered? Why present this graphic as it has nothing to do with this submarine?!

[@kevinwoodruff3576]

All that led to the U.S.A. having the best sub fleet on earth.

[@mrwolf9335]

Questionable claim

[@roguespearsf]

The IRA would like to have a word

[@oneballwizard406]

@@mrwolf9335 tell that to my old man who hunted Russian subs for the entirety of the cold war.

[@michaelthulin7207]

Ha! Swedish navy embarrassed us navy with their subs

[@mrwolf9335]

@@michaelthulin7207 and it was diesel electric 🤣 in the war games i think it breached the carrier group and sunk the carrier as much as 2 or 3 times too

[@gdwsr663]

Trivia question- Why are there 2 mast on top of the boat?

[@floydvaughn836]

Damn! Holland looks like Roddy McDowall.

[@kenkahre9262]

Holland was in competition with one Simon Lake to produce the first practical submarine. Lake's vehicle has a glass window and wheels so as to go roiling along the bottom. Back in those days, most thought the ocean floor was flat. Thankfully the Navy went with Holland's design.

[@zxjim]

They went with both, to try them against each other. The Lake design was actually pretty good, aside from the window and wheels. But, if I remember correctly, Holland won the contract. The Lake company did later build a number of submarines for the U.S. Navy during and after WW1.

[@baraxor]

@@zxjim Simon Lake's "Protector" was eventually commissioned by the Tsarist Russian Government. His earlier "Argonaut" and Argonaut Junior" weren't designed as warships, but for underwater exploration and salvage work.

[@zxjim]

baraxor That’s it. Thank you. I knew there was something about it.

[@ronalddevine9587]

Pity she wasn't preserved. Fascinating.

[@bruceraykiewicz6274]

I have seen the original Holland submarine. It is in the Paterson, NJ museum. It was tested in the Passaic River a short distance above the Great Passaic Falls, in the city of Paterson, NJ. I attended the Catholic high school that is now named for John Holland. The Irish immigrant that invented the first 'powered' submarine. That area of Paterson, was once called Dublin. Because there were so many Irish immigrants living in that part of Paterson.

[@vondumozze738]

Bruce Raykiewicz : Did you go to Don Bosco Tech?

[@bruceraykiewicz6274]

@@vondumozze738 No sir. I attended St. John the Baptist Cathedral High school on Oliver St.Class of '61'.

[@Joe-zn8hu]

At 8:22 in the video is a shot of the Nautilus Sub Atomic power system. Hyman G. Rickover's hand. Very strange...

[@sethmaki1333]

The 688 I was on seems like a five star hotel by comparison.

[@GoSlash27]

2:26 Why are we watching a blacksmith hammering a horseshoe??

[@Joelontugs]

2:36 idk if that was a submarine 🛸 lol

[@biggusbestus551]

He also held a patent for mustache tonic ?

[@Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu]

Kevlar reinforced concrete submarines sent me. #DeeperCheaper

[@KMACKTIME]

The hell did you find this b roll 😆

[@Manco65]

Keep up the good work despite the nitpicking poindexters.👍🤣

[@dirkbonesteel]

Back in the mid 80s in New Orleans near the water there was a extremely early small submarine on display with no information. Anyone know what that was or is?

[@MrJmd116]

Do have video about Japan submarine that could launch aircraft?

[@bmobert]

Ictineo I, II & III Barcelona 1852 Monturiol First fully modern submarine.

[@scottterry1659]

today is the birthday of the U S Submarine fleet

[@mattondrik1235]

My favorite part was the thinker

[@medalofhonor2420]

Idea Bushnell turtle??? It was first pro type build

[@kdrapertrucker]

Actually the Turtle was the first American submarine. During the American revolution. During the American civil war there was the American diver which was a prototype for the C.S.S. Hunley which was the first submarine to sink a ship.

[@simplywonderful449]

The "Turtle" was the acorn-shaped sub shown and described in the video.

[@joostprins3381]

The name says it all.

[@russedav5]

Around 6:30 the usual mistake is made that 1900 was the beginning of the 20th century vs the reality that it was the end of the 19th, centuries going from 1-100, e.g. 2001 A Space Odyssey, where, like centuries, millennia begin in 1 and end in 0. Decades however rather go from 0-9 (e.g. 1960-1969 are "the '60s") due to the penultimate number.

[@jamesbugbee6812]

That is 'dynamite gun'; a video of the French pre-1900 sub fleet would B N I-opener, as well as Italian pre-WWI achievements including the 1st blue-water campaign-capable sub class (4 use against French troopships crossing from Algeria).

[@tgmccoy1556]

How about the greatest peacetime loss by the US Navy the nearly new Cruiser "Milwaukee" escorting a Holland sub the Milwaukee was lost due to incompetence at Samoa Spit on Humbolt bay near Eureka Ca. in 1914.

[@webbtrekker534]

The USS Milwaukee was not new but was newly out of a major overhaul. She wasn't escorting the subs. She was called to help pulled the grounded submarine USS H-3 off the beach, because of her horsepower, where she had grounded in a dense fog. A tug who was helping hold Milwaukee in position had fouled her propeller and had no way to notify the Milwaukee as to what had happened and Milwaukee carried by wind and current ran aground. There were other circumstances but that is the jist of it.

[@whatwasisaying]

The Hunley was lost because the tide was against her and washed her out to sea as the exhausted crew fought to return to port, and the site where she was found was no where's near the attack.

[@williamsherman1942]

Holland huh?

[@elliotsilfwerbrand8036]

You can still see swedens first sub, it is influenced by holland and built in 1904

[@jez6208]

I like that Holland migrated to America. was he part goose? 😂

[@thedungeondelver]

The Spanish had an electric submarine well prior to this. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_submarine_Peral 4 torpedoes, max. speed of 9mph surfaced. Thoroughly modern-looking, too.

[@danielt.8573]

Other countries had them as well. I guess the video refers to the model that became the most relevant.

[@mikepette4422]

@@danielt.8573 more likely they made a mistake. the channel makes tons of errors all the time.

[@mikebender717]

The difference is the Peral was all electric with no way recharge it's batteries while the Holland used a dual propulsion system allowing it to recharge it's batteries while under way so great expanding its operational usage . All modern non nuclear submarines follow the Holland model although Peral had quite a few design features which showed her designers forethought in the needs of this type of warfare.

[@williamromine5715]

It was quite an achievement for the time. However, it was not a useful submarine for naval purposes. It had no way to recharge its batteries. So, technically it was before this sub, the sub used by the South in the 1860s was actually 20 years earlier. The problem is, neither boat was useful by a navy. This boat was, and is the first useful naval submarine, capable of naval warfare.

[@baraxor]

The French also had electric submarines. The Holland VI was the first practical dual-propulsion submarine (in this case, internal combustion/electric); other submarines at the time were short-ranged pure electric. Holland's earlier "Plunger" was a steam/electric boat that was impractical.

[@craigwall9536]

Once again, a lot of your information is incorrect. The Hunley was NOT sunk by it's own explosive. And the Turtle as NOT "acorn-shaped", although that bad interpretation persists.

[@thomashenebry8269]

Bushnell's Turtle was the first submarine.

[@chrissnyder2091]

I think one of the stock scenes that you borrowed came from a Monty Python movie.. the ship traveling off the map into the unknown

[@GermanShepherd1983]

It's still debated if the Hunley was sunk by the shockwave or if a lucky shot from the Housatonic put a hole in her viewing window allowing water to enter and she sank.

[@webbtrekker534]

The shockwave probably knocked the crew out. They were all found at their stations the the sub was salvaged. Her ballast tanks were open on the top to the inside of the submarine she may have flooded that way also.

[@johnthompson6550]

🦈

[@stevehuffman8278]

No, that is incorrect. The Colonial Navy had a submarine during the Revolutionary War. It even sank a British ship ... and itself in the effort. Crew members turned a crank to turn the propeller.

[@duanepigden1337]

According to this USA one was not the first.

[@webbtrekker534]

That was the Turtle and it was a one man submarine. It made an attack but never sank anything. You are getting the Turtle and Confederate Hunley story from the Civil War mixed together.

[@jamesbugbee6812]

It is suggested that Turtle was a Victorian myth, too pretty 2 let go of.

[@simplywonderful449]

@@jamesbugbee6812 The "Turtle" is shown in the video; it's an acorn-shaped sub carrying one person.

[@simplywonderful449]

Hunley had a propeller cranked by the crew. It was shown in the video, and had a spar at the bow to "spear" ships with, the spar having an explosive charge on it.

[@mattmaxon7783]

These where not true submarines but rather submersible ships. True submarines didn't come until the nuclear power came along

[@dpt6849]

good news. holland also known as the netherlands is going down into the sea.

[@mysticdragonwolf89]

I was taught nearly every ship in the navy in bootcamp in great detail…except the Holland. I was shown a picture and description That was it Of all the vessels in the history of the navy, subs were the least taught

[@webbtrekker534]

I went through boot camp in the summer of 1964 and now that you mention it I think you are right. I have no memory of them being talked about. A few weeks later while I was in "A" School a guy came into the class and asked if anyone wanted to volunteer. He said there was more money in subs. Making only $33.00 a paycheck every two weeks I said sign me up. That's how I got in subs.

[@terrelmchenry9524]

WHY DID YOU SHOW A NUCLEAR PLANT???

[@Bramon83]

To be fair, you can't mimick things that haven't been invented yet....

[@ceiling2967]

In the American civil war the south had one near the end

[@steveshoemaker6347]

🇺🇸

[@triandfit1]

As a side note, from a local website:

[@dreddfan01]

Just a a note on pronunciation, finian is pronounced 'fee-ni-an' Great video as usual.

[@iprangem]

Hunley was not sunk by her own weapon.

[@mrwhips3623]

The damn thing literally sank 6 times!

[@TheDukeOfDallas]

To go from this to the Ohio Class Nuclear Submarines of today that can pretty much stay submerged indefinitely if they didn't have to resupply.

[@stephenodell9688]

Is it OK to make a comment on an Add? I just saw one on Hawaii that called on visitors to have an open mind when visiting. After staying their for a while I saw how different Hawaii is, it is nothing like the Mane Land. I you stay in a resort and ate bacon and eggs for breakfast and not Mojo, poy or Lau lau youo might as well gone to Florida and saved you money.

[@7777PEACEMAKER]

Fascinating reminds me of the Higgins boat took him he finally got the military to look at it and Eisenhower said it helped win the war. Andrew Higgins got a big contract and he spread the wealth in his area of Louisiana and the rich asked him why did not keep the money for himself.

[@RedStickHistorian]

Higgins had a real struggle getting the Navy to accept his design, the Bureau of Ships wanted to use its own design for an amphibious assault boat. The Marine Corps and men like LTG H. M. Smith of the United States Marine Corps championed Higgins and his boat. He had to take part in several competition before his design was accepted. Higgins did not get a single contract but several and for different products. He even had a contract to build airplanes at one point. The "rich" of New Orleans were never fans of Higgins since he was not a native of the city, so it is doubtful that they asked him anything about his profits. Higgins Industries were in financial trouble shortly after the war ended and were saved only through contracts during the Korean war. The University of New Orleans has many of Higgins Industries papers in its library's archives, if you should wish to research Andrew Jackson Higgins and his companies.

[@lordgarion514]

It's disgusting how we treat our historical objects.

[@analyndowns5728]

The Hunley?

[@k3D4rsi554maq]

Yes, it is on display, but, for how long?

[@spec019]

there was a submersible in the us civil war ...so holland WAS not the first us sub

[@webbtrekker534]

You should look into the history of submarines. Holland was the FIRST to offer viable surface and submerged propulsion to the submarine. It became the template for the world in submarine design. Civil War Hunley had guys turning a big crank to turn the prop and burning up all their oxygen.

[@spec019]

@@webbtrekker534 IT still wasnt the first submarine which he stated..sorry.

[@webbtrekker534]

@@spec019 True there was Turtle.

[@yotetoob]

Can you speak any faster mate? Seriously slow down

[@TheMono25]

Umm I got the 420th like

[@HubertofLiege]

Sure, spicoli

[@austingode]

Great video but you could have included more …… one of the Hollands was stolen from New York harbor by the Finnians as subsequently sank there …. An extensive search was performed in the 90’s to find her wreck . And of course the Huntley is a story by itself , however I feel she should have had a bit more detail about her in this doc ….. but very entertaining clips throughout the video …. Cheers

[@nunyadambusiness6902]

It's FENIAN, ya twat-rocket

[@Glenmoto12]

Ok now I do have to request, can we refer to it as the UK please, not England or ‘the English’. It’s like referring to everyone from the USA as being from Texas. James the 1st of England was also king James the 6th of Scotland, as he was first known. And since this was after he inherited the throne, that means the crowns of England and Scotland had effectively ceased to exist.

[@auro1986]

then he taught nazis to make u boats

[@ivanconnolly7332]

Fenian is pronounced fee-knee-ann, yanks have to be the worst linguists despite being so multicultural.

[@bobstud3754]

Soooo...I take it you spend a lot of time in the Library...

[@elveheim]

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