Although the puzzle itself may not be difficult, I have decided to provide my attempt of finishing the act for your convenience. Sorry for being a bit slow, was also trying to figure out on my first run.
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@Spongeman25 Жыл бұрын
I get it now. The notes have to mirror the other side, not match. The Joker is like a wild note in place wherever he is standing, so wherever he stands is considered the needed note. This is something the game needs to explain. It's way too complicated. It's also the same as displayed.
@Illidandavid Жыл бұрын
The game kinda doesn't explain lots of things, it's been the same since DD1. It's interesting how much of a puzzle it is, since once you understand the mechanics, the rest is simply piecing together why the notes are indicated as "in tune", then trial and error until it fits. Once you understand the Jester = Wildcard, Crescendo and Diminuendo are "shift wild card" while Nota Cambiata stands for change (another) Note. Kinda reminds me of needing a guide to explain to me why keeping watch during DD1 camping was invaluable lmao and how busted scouting chance really is. Once you understand the mechanics of the puzzle you won't need to look at a guide to beat it. Now I kinda miss the secret rooms from DD1....
@alext.1244 Жыл бұрын
@@Illidandavid its pretty obscure, & tryin to figure out what things did caused me to lose the first attempt thru trial n error (i figured out the mechanics but had to realize it was flipped vs matching, which it was a 50-50 & I lost so I had to redo it, if they made that part slightly more obvious its not nearly as bad)
@Illidandavid Жыл бұрын
@@alext.1244 You also have to think about it this way, on the first (or even second playthrough) there are times when you utterly despair, possibly get overwhelmed by boss mechanics. The game isn't meant to be beatable in a single sitting. If you go in blind, defeating each confession boss is nigh impossible. Red Hook devs have always rewarded trial and error. Hitting bookstacks against Librarian? Hitting the Root behind the General? Thinking you're doomed to try and beat the General in 4 turns, otherwise the Growth swallows up your entire party.... The game rarely ever gives you hints or explains mechanics.
@alext.1244 Жыл бұрын
@@Illidandavid very fair, the only reason i survived the general the first time was cuz I had seen a clip from a DBD streamer (But i didnt know u HAD to hit it twice so I lost half my party regardless). I guess im just concerned about it being TOO obscure/difficult and that that may cause people to give up and/or lookup help maybe? Aside from that intro twitch clip, one-two vids on newplayer guides & THIS video for the jester i havent tried to give up or seek help (altho once I found out theres a wiki I did take a browse) & its that battle to try not make things too hopeless for the newerish players is important i dunno I did infact destroy the librarian 1st try (due to great anti burn items) without a guide or a clue just a vague guess that burn damage was important for a boss that lived in a BURNING LIBRARY lol haha & i got rewarded for that guess/knowledge feels GREAT & is wat a good balanced boss feels like. ....altho.... wat does hitting the books do tho? I just focused on the guy himself & killed him b4 he destroyed the last stack infront of us! wat happens wen all the stacks are gone?
@Illidandavid Жыл бұрын
@@alext.1244 he usually burns a stack every turn (deals 15 damage to it). Once a stack is gone he uses his big AOE. When ALL stacks are gone, he just keeps spamming the AOE twice a turn, usually leading to a full team wipe within 2-3 turns if you cant kill him by that point. I'm sure the devs made the game having well in mind that whoever gets stuck but likes the game / graphics will just look it up anyway. The design for most things was left vague and up for players to explore and spend dozens of hours investing their time into it. Which admittedly, they accomplished very well seeing the games' success. It's nothing as obscure as securing important clues or walkthroughs / guides / easter eggs through magazines back in the day. Then be king next day when you go to school and tell all your friends about it.
@davidsmith8997 Жыл бұрын
This puzzle sucks. HARD. What isn't explained, and what I just figured out after a lot of trial and error, is that moving will change a note one level for one point of stress. So in the 2 and ESPECIALLY the 3rd fight, you have to use movement to "prime" some of the changes before using change notes. That reduces the cost to change them from 2 x 2 to 1 x 1 plus 2 x 1 so a total of 4 vs 3 stress (no move/move). THAT is the secret to beating this puzzle.
@AlexanderAlenuxGonzalez Жыл бұрын
Can't believe this does not have more upvotes. This is the key and no one has mention it...
@TheTeacupGuy2 ай бұрын
Then it's clearly developer's fault.
@daveLabrewski Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the example on how to heck to beat this shrine challenge. Very vague, no tips at all from the creators. The skill earned from this, Finale, is incredible.
@alext.1244 Жыл бұрын
its almost like they are saying "hey he is broken, and we know hes broken so heres an next to impossible challenge (I know for sure that like 99% of people wont get this on their first try at least) to make u work for it!" which is a bit silly cuz other characters are also super strong n have easier as f shrines! :p
@somedude1887 Жыл бұрын
It’s really not that hard of a shrine challenge, I understand why for some people it might be complicated but literally after like 30 seconds of just looking at the notes on the opposite side it’s super easy to figure out
@CabooseNor Жыл бұрын
@@somedude1887 lmao
@gachispy Жыл бұрын
@@somedude1887true. At first, i didnt know what to do so i changed the note that had perfect pitch already and still somehow made it on my 1st try
@ghrimsy Жыл бұрын
This is definitely one of the more annoying hero shrines. Thank you so much for the guide. Most other hero challenges you can figure out on the first go, this one has so much going on with you needing to be in proper place ahead of time without knowing what notes will be coming up next or else you'll fail out the challenge. Failed 3 times and not gonna fail my forth thanks to you!
@Kamilos-op6oe Жыл бұрын
Trust me, runaway have worse than this
@falseking989 Жыл бұрын
While the 1st Jester challenge was about song structure, this challenge is about pre-planning. Great guide. I had already gave half a dozen tries before conceding and looking up a guide.
@manuellanthaler2001 Жыл бұрын
half a dozen tries before looking it up is pretty crazy.
@goatsplitterКүн бұрын
this was perfect. couldnt get this. followed along, got it. finally. thank you.
@xxdoge105xx3 Жыл бұрын
Just sold two shrines in a row because the top result was some outdated guide, thank you so much for this 💪
@chrisduncan1647 Жыл бұрын
Same except I burned 3 shrines. Apparently it was changed at some point.
@xxdoge105xx3 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisduncan1647 yeah changing notes now costs 2 of jester’s stress, so the strategy was changed
@khurtandrei41427 күн бұрын
There was a jester whose real name was sarmenti, he was regular street performer playing jovial tunes on his lute to make his living having no ambition to forge ahead or gain glory as a great musical talent until, one night he heard a melody unlike any other, it was no ordinary tune ment to cuddle the ears but to move the heart and soul itself he quickly followed the sounds of this tune until he found himself at a graveyard looking for the composer of this tune he found its source, an apparition of an old man sat before him playing the heavenly tune on his violin sarmenti knew at that moment that the man wasn't playing, he was fighting with his music challenging him to a battle of music, sarmenti drew his lute fighting the apparation with all the musical skill he could muster the first he had ever played as if it was more then just to make a living but as a way of living, defeating the ghost before it disappeared it imparted all of its musical genius filling sarmenti with melodies that could calm the hearts of even the most hardened and cruel brigand, with that genius and the thrill of winning a fire aroused within the once jovial street performer a fire to become not just a great composer and musician playing for giant crowds no, he would be a composer singing for nobility and royalty. Alas it was not to be, for the nobility had no interest in regular music, they preferred a more unconventional tune, a crueler one, when sarmenti was invited by the local lord to play for his court he was overjoyed now he can show his new found ability but that joy turned to anger and resentment as he forced to Don a jesters outfit being used as a plaything for the noblilities cruel and sadistic games, having to put up with their constant berating and insults at his attempts to play his music, dodging knives as they laughed at him struggling to survive treating him with no respect or human decency, at last sarmenti had enough he pulled all of the musical genius and skill he was given into one melody filling it with all of his rage and resentment wanting to kill these disrespectful hecklers who insult his musical talent, a melody that broke the ears and minds of the nobility leaving only a blood soaked stage, the event scaring sarmentis mind leaving him in a fit of hysterical laugher seeing the true extent of this musical genius he couldn't help but laugh even more at how it wasn't even his, so taking a knife to his hand he cut off his playing finger causing the great talent within him to leave as the great songs and melodies were now impossible to play or atleast to their full extent.""There was a jest whose real name was sarmenti, he was regular street performer playing jovial tunes on his lute to make his living having no ambition to forge ahead or gain glory as a great musical talent until, one night he heard a melody unlike any other, it was no ordinary tune ment to cuddle the ears but to move the heart and soul itself he quickly followed the sounds of this tune until he found himself at a graveyard looking for the composer of this tune he found its source, an apparition of an old man sat before him playing the heavenly tune on his violin sarmenti knew at that moment that the man wasn't playing, he was fighting with his music challenging him to a battle of music, sarmenti drew his lute fighting the apparation with all the musical skill he could muster the first he had ever played as if it was more then just to make a living but as a way of living, defeating the ghost before it disappeared it imparted all of its musical genius filling sarmenti with melodies that could calm the hearts of even the most hardened and cruel brigand, with that genius and the thrill of winning a fire aroused within the once jovial street performer a fire to become not just a great composer and musician playing for giant crowds no, he would be a composer singing for nobility and royalty. Alas it was not to be, for the nobility had no interest in regular music, they preferred a more unconventional tune, a crueler one, when sarmenti was invited by the local lord to play for his court he was overjoyed now he can show his new found ability but that joy turned to anger and resentment as he forced to Don a jesters outfit being used as a plaything for the noblilities cruel and sadistic games, having to put up with their constant berating and insults at his attempts to play his music, dodging knives as they laughed at him struggling to survive treating him with no respect or human decency, at last sarmenti had enough he pulled all of the musical genius and skill he was given into one melody filling it with all of his rage and resentment wanting to kill these disrespectful hecklers who insult his musical talent, a melody that broke the ears and minds of the nobility leaving only a blood soaked stage, the event scaring sarmentis mind leaving him in a fit of hysterical laugher seeing the true extent of this musical genius he couldn't help but laugh even more at how it wasn't even his, so taking a knife to his hand he cut off his playing finger causing the great talent within him to leave as the great songs and melodies were now impossible to play or atleast to their full extent.
@nitrousable Жыл бұрын
you're a lifesaver mate this bullshit was driving me crazy
@geekvsdork1674 Жыл бұрын
I like how hesitant you seemed to click on choices even when it was obvious they'd work. I like it because I relate to it on a spiritual level. I'm on try five. I have done my first save scum in frustration. I am a broken man and afraid of clicking anything now for fear of needing to try this elevenity billion times. I do not feel accomplished having done this. I just feel frustration that it existed. ...I think I'm having a genuine Darkest Dungeon experience.
@jakemiranda5851 Жыл бұрын
My man. Thank you soooo much. Many blessing to you😊
@manuellanthaler2001 Жыл бұрын
Thank you I tried it like 3 times always failed. And they didnt even say ONE Thing how it works. Most difficult hero story thing of them all.
@alexandersims5772 Жыл бұрын
OMG AN UP TO DATE ONE, THANK YOU
@user-lj8yq9vs8t Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this. Thank you!
@Inquisitor_Redacted Жыл бұрын
You sir, are a gentlemen and a scholar.
@USAgent88 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I've failed this puzzle 10 times
@probablyanotherfun Жыл бұрын
1 MILION THANKS DUDE!
@LastSider Жыл бұрын
I like the past explained through battle but dont like how I must find another shrine if you fail. Thanks for the guide, not wanting to fail those shrines.
@Malusawe Жыл бұрын
champ :thumbs-up:
@ehatchermobile Жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Thank you very much for this!
@nordeltitovirgito238 Жыл бұрын
I had to put the video x2 of how slow you react
@zachzachary7648 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading this. Took me an embarrassing 6 attempts. Holy crap
@AlexanderTullis25 күн бұрын
Thanks, boss!!!
@AlexTmayo Жыл бұрын
Saved me a lot of headache thanks man
@henrikgallon Жыл бұрын
Very big thanks for this!
@bigcupboysgaming6100 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! this one was so confusing
@jeanabdoul8878 Жыл бұрын
Thanks u si much so bro. Him really high and Lost 3 Time on this puzzle. U saved me
@antonsemakin Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@lfantucci2011 Жыл бұрын
finally a video that do this right, ty!
@havefuntazarasu5367 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! This fcking game didnt give clue of what to do, i failed the first time
@catspoons10 ай бұрын
Still to this day i have no idea how this encounter works
@Kredelwow Жыл бұрын
dude i love you, i was searching for this video for like 2 hours and every video was old and it had 1 more move the shaffle(i think it was called like that) and i fialed this shit like 10 times.... ';.;'
@superioraerialviews7047 Жыл бұрын
Thanks dude! Awesome simple guide!
@Wrynwynn8 ай бұрын
I LOVE this puzzle. It’s a shame the developers didn’t give us any clues in game on how to solve it, because as is, it’s unfigure-outable.
@mattc2639 Жыл бұрын
fkn pisd me off this one, subbed
@mayumi67078 ай бұрын
you saved my run ty
@Report_AFK Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the guide!
@MG-lc5tv Жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thank you for this!!
@mikevos4460 Жыл бұрын
Thank you omfg, i've wasted 4 shrines cuz of this puzzle
@I_hate_card_games8 ай бұрын
holy moly thank you so much
@felipe.vigentin Жыл бұрын
THAANNKKKSS GOOODDD
@philippeduarte7475 Жыл бұрын
Thank you dude.
@StevenofAstora Жыл бұрын
Huge thanks
@CorrionReap Жыл бұрын
Take my sub for this!!
@gaz4553 Жыл бұрын
Ty
@rodrigoleallorea1368 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@shamilamsyarshamsulzairil9482 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much❤❤
@lxbjerre11 ай бұрын
Perfect. Ty!
@BunnyWing8127 күн бұрын
Thank you for this video. Also fuck that puzzle.
@rockinneal91 Жыл бұрын
Fuck this memory, Thank you so much for the vid.
@jlsstudio1696 Жыл бұрын
Thanks you man
@utiopi44 Жыл бұрын
Thanks !
@felixgatto8944 Жыл бұрын
thank you :)
@durin718 ай бұрын
im sorry but, i dont understand, are notes guides what to do or match buff and abilities?
@schwereinnamenzufinde Жыл бұрын
Danke
@TylerCody. Жыл бұрын
thanks a ton
@BallsMuncher7 ай бұрын
my dumbass was seting them up backwards
@TauEnjoyer Жыл бұрын
ty so much!
@Alauz Жыл бұрын
I got really unlucky, the final melody they never give me a perfect pitch note even when I could shift my Jester around. then when it came to the switch, it switched to the wrong note. Wasted 4 runs thus far.
@merlinwochnik1283 Жыл бұрын
thanks bro
@VolvedorZ Жыл бұрын
How come I dont have the shuffle skill ??
@ceasanddorn Жыл бұрын
thanks, third one was not so easy
@jameshall219511 сағат бұрын
This puzzle is pissing me off.
@voidedoni3848 Жыл бұрын
i love you
@TheOneAndOnlyMooses Жыл бұрын
I love you
@izerixАй бұрын
Haha it used to be even harder in alpha, you didnt even have the indicator if althe note was in the correct pitch. Preety cool vibe tho
@andreip784911 ай бұрын
Damn man, I hate this level, I wasted like 5 shrines on this
@doujinartist3580 Жыл бұрын
thank you, ive been doing his shit 13 time lmao
@TheSeeker225 Жыл бұрын
This really sucked no idea what they are thinking with this one. You make the other shrines easy but you make this one ridiculous hard ?
@817Dream11 ай бұрын
What an annoying hero shrine OMFG
@NotDuckRBLX8 ай бұрын
i dont get it
@user-mk4cl3gc1f Жыл бұрын
найс
@katanalive8 ай бұрын
Italiano? 😅
@pureblood6492Ай бұрын
all of your videos you take 10 times too long to choose your action this should have been heavily edited so people dont have to watch it at double speed.
@GoryionBСағат бұрын
This is one of the worst puzzles in any game I have every played.... and I've been playing for 30+ years. I hate it when a game like this has a puzzle with a "You have to chose EXACTLY correctly, one mistake and you lose. BS
@LABullDaddyСағат бұрын
Yours is about the fifth KZbin video I've watched on how to win this. And guess what? Yours didn't work for me either. But that's really beside the point. I am not criticizing your post. I'm glad you found a solution that works for you. Developers need to stop sucking the life and joy out of games by creating these near-to-impossible scenarios in their games. With over 600 games, I am quite knowledgeable and experienced on gameplay; and, when I find one like this where you have no choice but to scour the internet for a "possible" solution and thereby being insulted by the developer as to your own intelligence, I have learned to simply stop playing the game and to leave it a terrible review. Games should be fun. And at times educational. But if you're having to look for a way outside of the game mechanics itself in order to win, then it's a supremely poor design. We as a community have the responsibility to demand better from the producers. Don't get me wrong. I loved Darkest Dungeon 1! I love trying to figure out the best strategy each round to win and move onto the next; but winning should happen naturally, as you figure things out and learn with each attempt, not something that only happens once you're logged out (and not to mention trying to figure out how to save a game so it can later be reloaded!) and looked for that even more illusive "needle in a haystack" solution. I mean, come on, how long did we all have to waste just to get at a solution? That is, if you even found one at all. Let developers know how much this kind of thing sucks.