Darkseid VS Pre Retcon Beyonder DC VS Marvel

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[@Nesisiriyum]

Bro Darkseid would be obliterated by pre retcon Beyonder in a nanosecond, honestly he can probably do the same thing with like 75% of the DC universe.

[@michaelgarcia5680]

I’m placing my bets on Pre Retcon Beyonder.

[@bowman9778]

It’s a mismatch

[@KingsleyandMarcoCrew]

No it looks like Darkseid won 2 times

[@differentbush]

@@KingsleyandMarcoCrew Didn't darkseid got beaten by children? 😎

[@achimpanzee9210]

@@differentbush tbf who hasn’t lost to children at least once.

[@KiraGod23]

@@achimpanzee9210 the true form of beyonder claps the true form of darkseid

[@aljotm5039]

lmaoo beyonder one shots this darkseid wank is hilerious

[@too_official6194]

Faxxxxxx

[@achimpanzee9210]

@@too_official6194 not really

[@too_official6194]

@@achimpanzee9210 yeah

[@achimpanzee9210]

@@too_official6194 mind proving it over discord then?

[@williamhemming8228]

@@achimpanzee9210 Beyonder was capable of destroying or completely restructuring the universe with a thought. The collective cosmic abstracts feared and were powerless against him. He casually erased the concept of death. He literally swatted aside all of earth's combined heroes, completely ignoring all of their combined attacks. The entire Celestial host attacked him and were unable to do anything to him. When Doom stole his powers it was because Beyonder let him do so out of curiosity of what would happen. He then just took his powers back. Darkseid has never demonstrated this level of power.

[@bowman9778]

Beyonder one shots Major mismatch

[@user-oh2rt2cp4g]

ok, now that's funny

[@williamhemming8228]

Effortlessly

[@ritchellethomas]

@@user-oh2rt2cp4g You're funny

[@gregtheradical]

This is no challenge beyonder will kill darkseid with ease

[@KingsleyandMarcoCrew]

What a good orient description on Darkseaid and Pre-retcon beyonder projection of power. The second round is more interesting because you have Darkseid the slight edge victory. I never thought Darkseid can hang or be above Pre-retcon Beyonder. I honestly thought Pre-retcon Beyonder will get all three rounds easily. I love this video.

[@akayokalumba5151]

The same dark side who was beaten by wonder woman. The only reason cows don't have wings is because the beyondee doesn't want them to

[@080519971]

Beyonder Wins Very Easily. Darkseid more comparable with Thanos No Gems. with Gens Thanos Wins Very Easily everybody knows That

[@tommymckeown8581]

amazing video. You probably break down the scaling of cosmology better than any other youtuber

[@SmallTownResident]

Darkseid: I am! Darkseid is! I am above all else in the multiverse! Beyonder: Uh who are you again? Your stone face looks very creepy. I think I'm gonna make you disappear. ::::BLINKS::::: Darkseid::::::GETS ERASED::::

[@Superman-um9pd]

I love beyonder way more than I ever could love darkseid but his feats are insane

[@DT25659]

Why do people rank darkseid so high? I always thought he was around Odin’s level

[@Sosadawwg__0]

JL infinite Frontier, read that it’ll show you why he’s so high

[@achimpanzee9210]

Darksied has been getting lots of amps recently. New 52 and rebirth are wild

[@Sosadawwg__0]

@@achimpanzee9210 DC is just Broken as hell

[@achimpanzee9210]

@@Sosadawwg__0 literally

[@too_official6194]

He is around Odins level not to say Odin is weak tho he’s still quite strong on the outerveesal tier people wank darkside

[@KingsleyandMarcoCrew]

I am not going to lie Captain Forest I thought this would favor Pre-retcon Beyonder. I was wrong what a close match. It is also true you did not use an amped for both characters. I agree with you Forest for New 52 Darkseid.

[@TheJayspyder]

I've never liked what Marvel did with Beyonder by retconing him. I think the story of a guy trying to cope with his omnipotence and actually feeling tormented by it is really interesting. Hope you cover more matchups between high god tier characters soon.

[@captainforest]

Oh for sure i plan to mix it up and cover more power characters

[@accessdenied5998]

Ohh the new Beyonder back becoming his pre retcon version become even more powerful he got somewhat full control over story narratives

[@iKingReaction18]

Great video captain forest i thought you were fair to both character and give good description of their powers.

[@Symbolical661]

in the time it takes for the Darkseid to think at maximum speed...beyonder can Destroy the universe and remake it 3000 times play and beat every single zelda game without dieing once punch Zoom in the face out run the flash solve a rubix cube make MUI goku look like an out classed baby... run around the multiverse 6000 times rewrite Twilight into a action novel have a kung fu battle with chuck norris... touch MC Hammer Compose 30,000 musical pieces punch Zoom in the face...again out runs fasted version of sonic undo the retcons that were done to him... confirms that Gilgamesh is half mongrel due to being half mortal and half god. kiss every female in the multiverse.. Erase Zeno absorb Rimuru Tempest sings Billie Jeans to Darkseid. Darkseid dies from cringe and overall Singing by Beyonder. never doubt Beyonder's lyrical genius, don't fight me for I shall always prevail. I need serious help.

[@HelloThere-td2kr]

Darkseid loses easily. I don’t get how this is even a fight. Your basically comparing Odin to Lucifer in my opinion

[@achimpanzee9210]

High father couldn’t even perceive darksied. That’s basically like DC’s Odin in a way. Maybe stronger

[@shayscruggs7829]

So will you do a Eddie brock venom powerscale in the future

[@captainforest]

Might do at some point

[@shayscruggs7829]

@@captainforest cool

[@danieldansoowusu4869]

So rebirth darkside scale of living tribunal that is crazy

[@boxingchamp630]

Damn I thought darkseid was around Odin's level or upper tier skyfather level.. This video is a complete new perception for me ✌

[@boxingchamp630]

@@darky1595 nah man... I have watched almost every darkseid videos and everyone puts him around that poster boy skyfather level.. So it can be consistent too..! Not sure tho!

[@achimpanzee9210]

@@boxingchamp630 idk who you’re watching then cause even in his pre-crisis era he was easily above high father who’s similar to Odin

[@boxingchamp630]

@@achimpanzee9210 I'm not sure man ..almost every one compares him to Thanos who is already slightly below Odin..! Never seen anyone matchup Odin against darkseid and proved him to be more badass .! Odin equals Galactus ..and then almost every video on KZbin says Galactus wins against darkseid ! Just some fictional universe things I guess !

[@achimpanzee9210]

@@boxingchamp630 galactus is a better matchup for an avatar of darksied. And Odin was terrified of galactus

[@galactusmonitor1977]

Darkseid is just the guy who doesn't take l s From no one

[@FallenRamen]

Expect stairs

[@danieldansoowusu4869]

So captain forest darkside vs phionex force

[@TheJayspyder]

Stairs > Darkseid 😂

[@shadow15kryans23]

According to Superman/Batman issue #40. This is the Same Darkseid who in Superman/Batman issue #24 was revealed to be a chess piece of Mr Mxyzptlyk. Aka That wasn't actually Darkseid LMFAO.

[@shubzotaku7617]

@@shadow15kryans23 bruh Beyonder litrally killed Living Tribunal who is 2nd Strongest Character in marvel.

[@shubzotaku7617]

@@shadow15kryans23 lmfao did you even know what is preretcon beyonder?.

[@achimpanzee9210]

@@shubzotaku7617 you say second strongest? Tribunal got washed by the beyonders

[@shubzotaku7617]

@@achimpanzee9210 no no bro I meant That LIVING Tribunal was 2nd strongest Being in the past But Now Beyonders are No 2 or 3.

[@au-delabattleworld9051]

Pre retcon beyonder could destroy the entire dc omniverse with a single thought, he's millions of times stronger than all of marvel combined. Comparing the beyonder to darkseid is like comparing the power of a water gun and a nuke

[@achimpanzee9210]

Any basis on why?

[@SgtKnievel]

@@achimpanzee9210 lol read some comics

[@achimpanzee9210]

@@SgtKnievel I have. I guarantee I’d clown you in a debate as well

[@SgtKnievel]

@@achimpanzee9210 Keep reading if you think Darkseid can take on Pre Retcon Beyonder

[@achimpanzee9210]

@@SgtKnievelwe can debate it since you’re so confident.

[@tizianoisidoro9868]

Comic where it's stated Darkseid breached the Monitor Sphere?

[@captainforest]

Not sure, sorry

[@bjermen]

One of the Death Metal comics

[@ShadowTetsuo9999]

Lol beyonder slaps

[@williamhemming8228]

There is nothing Darkseid could do to the Beyonder. He was so far beyond anything Darkseid. Beyonder could wipe out or restructure all of reality with a thought if he wanted. The collective cosmic entities were terrified of him. He killed Death. The very concept of death throughout the universe was wiped out by him with only moderate effort. Darkseid would be a speck next to the Beyonder

[@achimpanzee9210]

Darksied is naturally above those concepts. He’s the origin of evil, beyond death, etc. so unless you list actual feats then you have an empty argument

[@williamhemming8228]

@@achimpanzee9210 lol. I did list feats. He wiped out a galaxy with a thought. He casually mind controlled the entire universe, not including major cosmic entities and abstracts. He stomped the entire host of Celestials with zero effort and zero damage to himself. All major cosmic entities were powerless to affect him. These were the governing powers of the multiverse. He killed the concept of Death with almost no effort, making it impossible for ANYTHING to die. And then he KILLED something, which should have been impossible. He took the combined attacks of practically every hero on earth and was completely unaffected by them. He threatened to wipe out the entire universe and it was made clear that he could do so with no effort if he chose to and no one would be able to prevent the destruction. Now.... Cite actual feats by Darkseid that compare to the Beyonder's or else you have an empty argument.

[@achimpanzee9210]

@@williamhemming8228 darksied casually murdered gods who exist within the sphere of gods. Each of them being platonic concepts. And his shadow was going to tear the multiverse down. The DC Multiverse being bigger than marvels but I digress. If you have discord we can show actual scans so I’ll be waiting for that.

[@williamhemming8228]

@@achimpanzee9210 didnt he get his ass kicked by the Empty Hand and then made a puppet bitch by the Darkness in that storyline? Even stated that Darkseid had ALWAYS been his puppet bitch. Not many feats at all. Doesnt seem to compare. He could stomp retconned Beyonder but pre retconned was clearly leagues above Darkseid.

[@achimpanzee9210]

@@williamhemming8228 I’m waiting for you to actually debate over discord. Unless you don’t have actual proof.

[@lonwabotembani6420]

Pre retcon is too much

[@KingsleyandMarcoCrew]

Darkseid is OP especially the writers for DC making him even more powerful

[@boxingchamp630]

Recently every characters be it marvel or DC gets super amped!

[@Starkeditz7x_]

Lol Pre retcon beyonder could destroy whole multiverse with just his thinking and darkseid is multiversal level being And pre retcon beyonder is beyond multiversal being like omniverse which is beyond the multiverse And pre retcon beyonder is 3rd most powerful character in the marvel universe After ONE ABOVE ALL and ONE BELOW ALL Pre retcon beyonder holds the 3rd position And true form darkseid can't even defeat life bringer galactus and orion's true form And orion can't even defeat sentry or scarlet witch My opinion :- Pre retcon beyonder wins Low diff

[@SgtKnievel]

PRB was the original TOAA

[@jokerxd407]

Darkseid ohhh yhhh

[@ryanturney672]

I am just waiting for the next big event that Darkseid gets beaten by Superman or something like that.....they hype seid and knock him down so often it's hard to have faith in consistency.

[@sepandarmoeeni9299]

great video, tnx

[@ajmorningstar6281]

Chaos King vs Rebirth Darkseid

[@achimpanzee9210]

Rebirth Darksied

[@ugospotty678]

Chaos king probably

[@TRIXXYINFERNO]

XD sure Darkseid will forever have the most overhyped scaling, dudes way too inconsistent but still powerful for sure, does that means he can beat beyonder.....doubt epescially when it comes to nonsensical ap scaling

[@RowelSaludar]

Lol pre retcon beyonder is tier 0 = boundless

[@tizianoisidoro9868]

Good video Forest but I have am unsure about the wincon for Round 1, it is true Darkseid was damaged by the Black Racer but that was after he had been shot by Batman with his radion bullet and he still required Superman amped by the wish machine to deal the final blow and iirc in Multiversity Darkseid is still hoppin' around though he did get sealed. What do you think?

[@captainforest]

Black racer has affected darkseid twice, and in issue here is that beyonders conceptual death hax is just far above basic concepts like platonic or jungian, so the death hax would apply, new 52 and rebirth would handle against the death hax a lot better than post

[@tizianoisidoro9868]

Ok glad you could clarify, thank you.

[@jeffreyscornavacco282]

You are delusional any version of the Beyonder wins against Darkseid

[@captainforest]

Cry

[@lamthatlam-t8h]

Darkside wins

[@champikawicramasinghe4492]

Strongly disagree Cap For more Watch Kasif pro edits beyonder scaling.

[@captainforest]

I don’t care.

[@champikawicramasinghe4492]

@@captainforest OK. anyway video is sucks thats why. Sure dc fan Beyonder is Irrelevant x irrelevant layers into beyond tiering

[@bluecrush4903]

Goku vs Optimus Prime (Dragon Ball vs Transformers).

[@godspeedforce9371]

Optmius stomps

[@bluecrush4903]

@@godspeedforce9371 Fax's, this was a Request from my friends in Discord, My private discord.

[@shubzotaku7617]

@@bluecrush4903 only primus can beat goku I think.

[@grandcanyon-fu9zt]

@@achimpanzee9210 because of the matrix of leadership is a part of him , I remember he warped a dimension before.

[@gabrielhughes8221]

Alot of people really don't know how powerful Darkseid is. Pre-Retcon Beyonder isn't that important nor powerful he once before. But remember this Pre-Retcon beyonder is also is dumb that he didn't know everything. Yes the beyonder is powerful but nevertheless and however this Beyonder was also was afraid of Classic Doctor Strange. That the beyonder admits himself that Doctor Strange can just seal the beyonder into another dimension for all eternity.

[@TRIXXYINFERNO]

darkseid is severely overhyped unfortunately, dude gets folded by superman almost every other day

[@gabrielhughes8221]

@@TRIXXYINFERNO True I'm not going to denying that.

[@Senku19906]

well since its pretty close great darkness should beat prb

[@chrisjayroldsiazon5119]

If darkseid beats prb does that mean he has a chance to solo marvel?

[@achimpanzee9210]

Yeah he gets far into the verse

[@KiraGod23]

How can he solo marvel . One above all stomps darkseid like a tissue . The true form of beyonder destroys the true form of darkseid

[@achimpanzee9210]

@@KiraGod23 looks like we got a marvel fanboy on our hands

[@KiraGod23]

@@achimpanzee9210 what marvel fanboy? Do u know one above all and beyonder dude

[@KiraGod23]

@@achimpanzee9210 they are gods

[@omnimaw-cc]

I'll agree to this