CEDAR vs SPRUCE! - Acoustic Guitar Tone Comparison!

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Darrell Braun Guitar

Darrell Braun Guitar

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@DarrellBraunGuitar
@DarrellBraunGuitar 4 жыл бұрын
Did you guys favour the Spruce or the Cedar top? Let me know! Enjoy :)
@cedarthetree76
@cedarthetree76 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm.....
4 жыл бұрын
Myself I like the Spruce top the best.
@ZacCostilla
@ZacCostilla 4 жыл бұрын
Usually a cedar guy, with a few exceptions. My flamenco guitar is spruce top on cypress sides/back, and it’s the best nylon string I’ve ever played, with a bell like timber. I generally don’t like cedar on a shorter scale, because it gets too mellow.
@CareAgainFishing
@CareAgainFishing 4 жыл бұрын
I concur: The cedar is the favored wood for solo finger-style/classical acoustic; the kind of thing where it's just one person in a room... or maybe two, complimentary, acoustics playing together. I think you've demonstrated why so many high-end classical guitars are made with cedar. Comparing the two is kind of like comparing sushi and barbecue. Both are awesome, but to be successful they function best when used in the right context.
@strumminronin
@strumminronin 4 жыл бұрын
That old travel guitar you demo'ed, with carbon fibre. :)
@BeardedBluesDude
@BeardedBluesDude 4 жыл бұрын
The correct answer is. "It depends" :) Spruce sounds much brighter and the Ceder sounds warmer.
@asamakowski8316
@asamakowski8316 4 жыл бұрын
BeardedBlues Dude nah spruce gang for life
@jeffreyschaefer3979
@jeffreyschaefer3979 4 жыл бұрын
What did Gordon Lighrfoot play? Spruce or Cedar? Whatever he played. I'll go with that.
@DavidOnTheRoadGuitars
@DavidOnTheRoadGuitars 4 жыл бұрын
Strange I thought the cedar was more bright than the spruce.
@musik4life24
@musik4life24 4 жыл бұрын
What its exact the opposite
@BeardedBluesDude
@BeardedBluesDude 4 жыл бұрын
To my ears the spruce was way brighter
@RobertBakerGuitar
@RobertBakerGuitar 4 жыл бұрын
100% agree. I liked the Cedar more but can see how the Spruce would be king if playing with other instruments.
@Motoroil555
@Motoroil555 3 жыл бұрын
What's up Rob love your vids too
@L2FlyMN
@L2FlyMN 3 жыл бұрын
I think the cedar had a warmer tone, & the spruce, a bit sharper.
@sethcaine3659
@sethcaine3659 3 жыл бұрын
Well said, thats how I feel too.
@mxh5647
@mxh5647 4 жыл бұрын
Personally I preferred the cedar but... I was flabbergasted at how I could hear the differences. I had heard they were different but wow I'd never heard them back to back like that. That was very educational for me. Thank you.
@donklink4571
@donklink4571 3 жыл бұрын
Darrell you are one of the best reviewers. You play short chordal tones and riffs with each guitar. A lot of folks play one guitar too long and by the time they switch my ears have lost context. Your comparison was comprehensive without overwhelming me with one sound. And you play beautifully too.
@GuyFrets
@GuyFrets 3 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed by how much more clarity and definition the spruce provides.
@madave4787
@madave4787 3 жыл бұрын
I am classically trained. I play classical guitar and in the classical world that has been a struggle whether to choose a cedar top or a spruce top. You actually nailed the obvious characteristics of the two Woods
@KP-by4eu
@KP-by4eu Жыл бұрын
there's no contest among classical guitars. The best classical guitars are always spruce.
@RC32Smiths01
@RC32Smiths01 4 жыл бұрын
It is quite insane how wood can really bring out the tone in a guitar! Great shootout here!
@MisterRorschach90
@MisterRorschach90 4 жыл бұрын
I mean that is literally what they are made out of.. lol
@BobJones-bh9qz
@BobJones-bh9qz 4 жыл бұрын
In an acoustic guitar*
@BD-me4nk
@BD-me4nk 4 жыл бұрын
Both sounded great and a perfect demonstration of the wood qualities. The recording sounded amazing. I bet those new Austrian mics will be on many peoples radars
@justinshew40
@justinshew40 4 жыл бұрын
I like the cedar one better. It definitely has a warmer, fuller sound.
@cedarthetree76
@cedarthetree76 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! (Look at the name)
@MisterRorschach90
@MisterRorschach90 4 жыл бұрын
Cedar Schumacher yep
@Hild1
@Hild1 Жыл бұрын
Cedar has a rather mushy sound while spruce is much crisper in the trebles.
@davidappleby7214
@davidappleby7214 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comparison, Darrell. Excellent playing and presentation, as usual. Of course both tops have their unique sound characteristics. I am in the market for a cedar top, and I really appreciate the sound samples!
@johnmathia357
@johnmathia357 4 жыл бұрын
They both sounded great, but the depth and richness of the cedar top just blows me away. I love it. Now I've got to get me an acoustic with a cedar top and a rosewood body. My wife will be so happy lol.
@gijsbertuslaurensvandevooren
@gijsbertuslaurensvandevooren 2 жыл бұрын
Promise her shoes.
@digitalchris6681
@digitalchris6681 4 жыл бұрын
Trouble is, although Spruce sounds much brighter here, after a couple of years of playing it will sound mellower whilst the Cedar only changes minimally (this based on my numerous acoustic, classical, and flamenco guitars). Indeed I've had Spruce (Sitka) turn so dull after a few years that it is unplayable: Cedar, however, still sounds almost the same as new.
@destianpatrianagara1119
@destianpatrianagara1119 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks happy to hear from someone who own both!
@aggabus
@aggabus 3 жыл бұрын
Dull unplayable oh no
@nicholash8021
@nicholash8021 2 жыл бұрын
You sure that's not the strings? Brand new strings can even be quite the opposite--too lively with too many overtones/harmonics. Old strings, sure, very dull. Can also be due to other issues with the guitar. I've had nearly 20 guitars and some spruce over 30 years old and it sounds warmer, but absolutely not dull.
@VividFizzy
@VividFizzy 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicholash8021 I’ve had my Sitka spruce 10+ years and it sounds even better than it ever did. Not sure what he’s talking about and That’s my first time hearing that
@MrSJPowell
@MrSJPowell 4 жыл бұрын
When doing comparisons like this, I'd really love to see a Fourier Transformation to see where the resonances are different. Not sure if you're set up for that, but if you could, I think that would give more concrete explanations than "bright" or "round".
@lynnmorgan3283
@lynnmorgan3283 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Darrell and amazing "Amazing Grace" Thank you!
@nixternal
@nixternal 4 жыл бұрын
#1 - I liked them both, cedar was a little warmer which I liked. #2 - I think I preferred cedar here #3 - higher up the neck when you hit that barre, I liked the cedar better #4 - OMG THE SPRUCE! It sounded just like the bagpipe you would hear that from, though the cedar wasn't far off from it, I'll take the spruce here. #5 - chord I think I will give it to the cedar, but for the single notes I liked the spruce. Look wise, I liked the cedar better, but I think I will agree with your closing arguments for sure. I think I want a cedar top box now :)
@melaniefayemusic
@melaniefayemusic Жыл бұрын
very surprised to see most of the comments saying they prefer cedar. it makes me wonder, do you all hear laurel, or yanny?
@jackharper6746
@jackharper6746 4 жыл бұрын
the best comparison! this is how comparisons should be done: short identical pieces + genuinely good mic
@JamForThought
@JamForThought Жыл бұрын
This guy does the best comparison videos. Hands down.
@martinreichenbachmusiker
@martinreichenbachmusiker 3 жыл бұрын
I've got a Furch Blue Gc CM (Cedar top, Mahagony bottom and sides) and yeah I enjoy playing fingerstyle on it. I find it well balanced
@FurchGuitarsOfficial
@FurchGuitarsOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being with us, Martin! 🙏🏻
@OscarBenben
@OscarBenben Жыл бұрын
I prefer the sound of cedar tops but I believe the esthetic is better with a Sitka spruce. I have the same thing with mahogany vs rosewood back and sides. I prefer mahogany sound but Indian rosewood is so marvelously beautiful ! So my favorite sounding guitar doesn’t match my favorite esthetic guitar. That’s my forever dilemma but I will always sacrifice the look because sound is what this instrument is made for
@thejeffersonlee
@thejeffersonlee 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Seagull Entourage with cedar top and cherry back and sides. I previously owned a Seagull with spruce top and mahogany back and sides. There is a difference. I can't say for sure if the cedar changed what I heard and consequently what I played, or if own tastes in what and how I played changed, probably both, but I have been able to do just about everything I did with the cedar top and more that I could do with the spruce top. The cedar does tend to "hit the wall" sooner when hitting things harder. You get what I think of as "acoustic overdrive" sooner where you get that kind of break-up of tone from heavier strumming/picking. While spruce tops can handle that heavier hitting before "breaking up", it has been, in my experience, not as advantageous in the grand scheme. I wish more guitars were offered with cedar tops. Loudness isn't so much an issue if you're mic'ed up or playing in a band mix. Just tweak your amp/PA/pedals. Nuance when an acoustic guitar is soloing or by itself is more important, something that cedar tops do better.
@kenimiller3896
@kenimiller3896 4 жыл бұрын
The sound of the cedar made me immediately think of Medieval & Renaissance music, reminded me of listening to John Renbourn.
@pattymulligan2389
@pattymulligan2389 4 жыл бұрын
i love the tone of cedar. (and im not gonna be in a band so...)i mustve been in renaissance, past life
@EatMyBacon000
@EatMyBacon000 3 ай бұрын
cedar is actually used mostly on classical guitars for nylon strings
@akaoveve
@akaoveve Ай бұрын
Perfect 👌! Very good, quality information! Exactly what I was looking for: a short, prefssional recording and comparison! Thank you!
@worldgonewrong2049
@worldgonewrong2049 4 жыл бұрын
You can use both in any situation. I've recorded with both. If the mix is 'denser' as some put it, you use the right mic and positioning, mix accordingly. An acoustic will not get lost in a mix if you know what you're doing, regardless of what the top of an acoustic guitar is made of!
@geoffreysaadi3004
@geoffreysaadi3004 3 жыл бұрын
what is the model of the Stonebridge? I am French I did not understand if he spoke about it. he may be comparing 2 guitars that are not in the same price range 🤔
@glennjustice2760
@glennjustice2760 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best demos I’ve heard. Thinking of trying the warmer sound of cedar. I play mostly finger style. Thanks again. Great playing.
@ukulelewithtyler
@ukulelewithtyler 3 жыл бұрын
To my ears, cedar always sounds a bit muddy due to the abundance of overtones. Of course, not all guitars are created equally, and it often depends on the bracing technique and wood thickness. However, I generally prefer the more fundamental tone which spruce has to offer.
@brockglaze
@brockglaze 4 жыл бұрын
If Stradivarius would have had access to American Red Cedar, I guarantee he would have used it on most of his violins!
@roume.3304
@roume.3304 4 жыл бұрын
I doubt it, there's a reason why most of the luthiers use spruce. Its because of projection and tone, spruce is unique for its stiffness and projection.
@roume.3304
@roume.3304 4 жыл бұрын
Violins must be heard in big orchestras and halls. That's why projection is always looked for, as for guitars it is known to be a little quieter hence, the invention of electronic amplification.
@genipaisley4340
@genipaisley4340 3 жыл бұрын
Funny that you mention violins because I was definitely getting a violin vibe from the cedar top guitar, especially when he was playing Amazing Grace.
@johncollins5552
@johncollins5552 Жыл бұрын
I have a friend who has been making violins for over twenty years, they cost about three thousand dollars and I hope someday he will make a guitar for me as he has never made one but told me it's something he has wanted to do but not sure I could afford it!
@ryedylantm
@ryedylantm 4 жыл бұрын
Refreshing "Amazing Grace" brief instru with the Capo part.
@8944bdp
@8944bdp 4 ай бұрын
Great comparison. I've never seen TWO capos used at the same time. That was new. Now I"ve got to try it.
@Tonedog88
@Tonedog88 3 жыл бұрын
I like all your videos, but THAT was the most informative I've heard so far, answering a question I've had for a long time. Thanks, Darrell!
@sugatooth
@sugatooth 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Darrell do you plan to do a studio tour anytime soon? Would love to see some behind the scenes stuff!
@TomasMichaud
@TomasMichaud 4 жыл бұрын
This was a fantastic comparison, Darrell. I really like how you narrowed it down to just chords and notes. I happen to be in the market for a Furch guitar and am trying to decide if I should buy the Cedar top or Spruce top. Your video is perfect. Since I have other acoustic guitars for strumming I'm going to go with the Cedar top for fingerstyle.
@hatemmegaly9613
@hatemmegaly9613 2 жыл бұрын
So I can still stum with a spruce-top guitar, like the Furch GC-SR Deluxe. right? or it's better only for fingerstyle?
@vyvynylification
@vyvynylification Жыл бұрын
@@hatemmegaly9613 I'd argue that spruce would suit strumming better than cedar, for sure
@andrewthomas7544
@andrewthomas7544 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. Thanks!. Having played cedar for +50 years, I wanted to try something more "in-your-face, flamenco, raw, loud.....", ie. less subtle. I love the soft delicacy of the cedar, but sometimes my mood needs more ragged, earthy, more violent passion, as I go mental and do my crazy riffs with eyes shut!! Definitely, one of each.
@tamwar3
@tamwar3 4 жыл бұрын
Spruce for me! The cedar sounded a little too muted, less sustain and lacked the 'bell' like clarity of the spruce. Great comparison though 👍
@chezruss
@chezruss 3 жыл бұрын
not only do I prefer the sound of the cedar but I think it looks magnificent too. thanks for this well recorded video with those fantastic Furch guitars - can I ask is there a great difference in the pricing of the two?
@Freefallr60
@Freefallr60 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Vid and the Question. Spruce especially paired with a rosewood has such the familiar beautiful sound. Rhythm and melody, however I've fallen big time over Western Red Cedar. It just goes right through me. I've always liked a darker sound, or warmer, but this is special
@scottfishkind5335
@scottfishkind5335 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison, I agree with your assessment of the tonal characteristics!! I'm also very interested in Furch as a front runner for my next guitar!!
@rupertmarks6619
@rupertmarks6619 2 жыл бұрын
I recently bought a Furch cedar/mahogany dread from their ‘Blue’ range, which is their entry point for all solid wood. The mahogany seems to me to maximise the characteristics of the cedar top as described in the video. Ideal for solo fingerstyle, and I’m very pleased with it.
@Madchris8828
@Madchris8828 3 жыл бұрын
That is an absolutely beautiful rendition or piece of a rendition of amazing grace. Sounding so amazing on the cedar guitar too!
@BC0guitar
@BC0guitar 4 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison! The spruce model looks pretty new. It'd be interesting to re-record the same clips in the same manner on the spruce model in a couple of years or so, with the aim of seeing how the sound changes with the age of the guitar
@earthsteward9
@earthsteward9 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if mellow strings on the spruce guitar vs bright strings on the cedar guitar would sound. For example monel strings on the spruce and 80/20 bronze on cedar
@R.Stridstrom
@R.Stridstrom 4 жыл бұрын
I changed the eq by suppressing the mid-strong frequencies with strings on mine, actually i also put a fatter low E on, and it smoothed out (flattened) the eq and softened the (perceived) output a tiny bit. It still projected the sound better than many spruce tops i have tried. And i got what i wanted. I bet you could tweak a spruce top too. 80/20 p-b was what i went with. I believe that the rosewood back and sides contributes to the mellow tone in this vid. Mahogany would be snappier.
@GearGasms
@GearGasms 4 жыл бұрын
Or even flatwounds on the spruce
@MrGorpm
@MrGorpm 4 жыл бұрын
Why not go the other way?
@tellstarrsixtwo7120
@tellstarrsixtwo7120 13 сағат бұрын
Since the Orange Master’s Choice is a Sitka spruce guitar, I'm wondering how Engelmann spruce would sound compared to those 2 tonewoods. Seems to have some attributes of cedar, so maybe a "in-between" option ? Compared to Sitka spruce : • Warmer • Richer and more complex overtones • More responsive to light touch
@nobodys.shapeshifter
@nobodys.shapeshifter 4 жыл бұрын
Spruce would sound better in most mixes, especially a dense mix.
@brockglaze
@brockglaze 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. This is why you must own both. Cedar for solo singer-songwriter stuff. And Spruce for standing out in a band!
@GearGasms
@GearGasms 4 жыл бұрын
Yes it definitely cuts more
@celineellismusic5112
@celineellismusic5112 4 жыл бұрын
Im on the Spruce side in this comparison, there just seems to be a better presence on the spruce and cedar seemed to sound a bit flat for me in comparison. but both guitars sound absolutely gorgeous and really show of your playing skill!
@quietCello
@quietCello 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like there is another important factor that contributes to the tone difference here => the depth of the guitar body. (see 5:29 and 5:32) The Cedar-top guitar has at least 1-2 cm "deeper" than its spruce counterpart. Since bigger body usually projects lower-end better, I do not rule out the possibility that the warmth of Cedar is to some degrees enhanced by the greater depth of the body :) Would be curious to see a "fairer" ad stricter comparison of the same build with different tops eh. After doing some research, I notice that the Yellow Series has both cedar and spruce top with the same body dimension. Perhaps an idea for the new video? :)
@brucecrow1142
@brucecrow1142 3 жыл бұрын
well done comparison review!
@eirenewee
@eirenewee 3 жыл бұрын
The differences were noticeable and your demo definitely helped bring these out! I wasn’t expecting to hear such a distinct difference; agreed with you. I confess to having a cedar preference (and hence mahogany) rather than the brighter flatter spruce - even for strumming.
@matthewlugar
@matthewlugar 7 ай бұрын
Best comparison of cedar vs. spruce tops I've seen. Thank you!
@richellmcknight446
@richellmcknight446 4 жыл бұрын
The cedar is definitly warmer, huh, I didn't think I'd be able to hear that! Cool!😁💖
@GearGasms
@GearGasms 4 жыл бұрын
Richell Mcknight yeah it was way more noticeable
@rodrigosilveirafagundes5001
@rodrigosilveirafagundes5001 4 жыл бұрын
Great comparison! Thanks!
@jmscnny
@jmscnny 2 жыл бұрын
As a finger picker, I have always loved the sound of my old Seagull S6 with its cedar top over my more expensive guitars with sitka spruce tops. I always just put it down to the manufacturing differences of the instruments and the fact that I have had the Seagull longer and just got used to it, but I now see just how much of a difference the tonewood makes. I have never heard a back to back comparison that definitive before. The spruce is definitely cleaner and brighter, but the cedar is way more intimate, and still my favorite.
@deanace777
@deanace777 2 жыл бұрын
I also have and love my Seagull,,, cherry side
@dariosaviors
@dariosaviors 4 жыл бұрын
Spruce for me! Absolutely in love with my Seagull S6 Slim CH, solid spruce top and wild cherry body (the wood, not the color!), and love the satin neck too! 🇨🇦!!! (BTW, you can partially “EQ” the wood tone by swapping string type. F.E. tried the D’Addario Original American 85/15, brought some warmer e rounded tone, dispite of a bit of mid-hi cutting and sustain loss. Next swap, D’Addario Nickel Bronze, cant’wait to try them out!) Very clear and interesting video! Cheers from Italy!
@jimboclox2252
@jimboclox2252 Жыл бұрын
My first little guitar was cedar top. I loved that mellow muted tone. Good for someone not too accurate at picking.
@bowtiepotato554
@bowtiepotato554 4 жыл бұрын
These are both such beautiful guitars! Thank you for this upload it really helped me choose my guitar 🙌🏻
@bobbwest
@bobbwest 3 жыл бұрын
Your ability to translate subjective sonic impressions and somehow quantify them into objective criteria is marvelous (subjective opinion 😁). You very much enable me to hear what you are hearing as you teach the differences. I get it! I pride myself in being able to maintain objectivity and avoid subjective influences, such as brand or hype. I throughly enjoy all your evaluations. It is clear that you strive to maintain an objective posture and transmit the “feeling” type information in a way that I can clearly understand. I feel like I’m rambling, but it is important to me that I express my recognition to you as positive feedback for your analysis. Thank you much Darrell for all you do! I always learn so much when I watch your vids, especially the comparison type vids. Thank you!
@Danderman888
@Danderman888 Жыл бұрын
My preference is absolutely same as yours. My preference is for finger type playing, so you can easily guess my preference. Besides, my preference for a more intimate setting does make the cedar more pleasant.
@chrisfrezza1449
@chrisfrezza1449 4 жыл бұрын
I personally enjoyed the Spruce higher on the neck/riffing and cedar lower on the neck/strumming. Both are fantastic instruments for their own purpose. BTW the thumbnail has the two headers over the wrong guitars. Great stuff as always Darrell!
@rayschoch5882
@rayschoch5882 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. Overall, Darrell, I have to agree with your conclusions. I often don't hear much of a difference between guitars, but this time, it's quite noticeable. Cedar is warmer and fuller, but also didn't project quite as well, while the spruce is brighter and more sharp. I enjoyed what sounded like a Scottish bagpipe imitation from about 4:15 to 5:00. Both guitars sound great, but if I have to choose, I'll go with the cedar (I'm a bedroom guitarist, so no band mix to cut through).
@jjohnson893
@jjohnson893 3 ай бұрын
Long time follower, will always lean on your advice. Here's a thought, (first, let me preface that I do not think the back and sides make as much of a difference as we think it does) Driftwood guitars uses laminated sides and when you think about it like a drum, this starts to make more sense) I think it's pretty clear that a cedar top has deeper more mellow upper mid-range tones, it's a softer wood that kind of seems to make sense. Spruce top, more dense, less flexibility. Higher notes. So then what about more exotic tops like KOA or mahogany? Traditionally we have classified these as darker tones more muted, but given the fact they are a more stiff wood similar to the spruce, why would it not be the same in the sense of brightness? So what's the difference? Is it all mental and we're just buying on looks? Possibly.
@cass2771
@cass2771 4 жыл бұрын
I wasn’t prepared for the extent of the difference! In my head, I picture the cedar as my bedroom guitar (love the warmth), and the spruce for performances (love the projection). Great demo, Thank you.
@scottfishkind5335
@scottfishkind5335 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your excellent videos!! I ended up purchasing the Furch Yellow Master's Choice yesterday and it is incredible!! The Cedar Rosewood combination is exactly the sound I was looking for! I also played a Blue Master's Choice and it was also a wonderful guitar, just a little different than my tonal preference, but still a guitar I would be very happy with! Since this was my dream guitar purchase I went ahead and got the Yellow (also preferred the LR Baggs Anthem Stage Pro and the Hiscox case is a heck of a nice extra) but for other folks looking for that Cedar Mahogany sound I highly recommend the Blue. Furch has something extra in the resonant qualities of their guitars. I happen to also be a fan of Breedlove, I have one of their ECO Discovery S Concert Cedar Mahogany guitars, and tried their Redwood Rosewood Premier yesterday as a comparison. While it was a great guitar, the Furch had a bit more of that tonal quality I was looking for.
@1olddoggie
@1olddoggie 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I own a Furch with Spruce and Mahogany back. Great comparison! Love Furch's and Stonebridge. Great playing!
@johncollins5552
@johncollins5552 Жыл бұрын
Lowdens are my favourite.
@visitur4914
@visitur4914 4 жыл бұрын
As I was listening, the cedar reminded me so much of the tone of nylon strings. Darrell's summary at the end was spot on.
@abdulkhaliq1226
@abdulkhaliq1226 4 жыл бұрын
Out of my Acoustic guitars I usually go for the cedar. It often sets the mood for and music I write. Always when I play Gordon Lightfoot music I'll use cedar. When I for an audience it will usually be spruce. Has the projection and sound I like for that type of venue. Thanks DBG 👍
@simonhargreaves5123
@simonhargreaves5123 3 жыл бұрын
Both guitars are very beautiful! The spruce has a sparkly magic that takes it for me
@stevec.1802
@stevec.1802 3 жыл бұрын
I can hear similarities and differences depending on what you’re playing with each guitar. At the end of the day it comes down to the one you like. Love your presentations and playing. Thank You.
@framdigo5555
@framdigo5555 4 жыл бұрын
great video, thanks for making it! You executed it with perfection!
@chriswindross9161
@chriswindross9161 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting demo. such a big difference in sounds. I agree with your conclusions and I think I prefer the cedar (which means I'll now have to buy one!)
@israelunterman
@israelunterman 4 жыл бұрын
While I couldn't hear a difference in the cedar vs mahagony you did in on one of the videos, this time I did hear a difference, I love the cedar. Its voice has more character, like some EQ was applied, a more interesting sound.
@poke12gauge32
@poke12gauge32 4 жыл бұрын
The cedar sounds more tone rich to me especially on the low notes
@R.Stridstrom
@R.Stridstrom 4 жыл бұрын
Lots of overtones
@richardgreen6857
@richardgreen6857 4 жыл бұрын
Very subjectively, my preference is the Spruce. The Cedar is definitely "darker", but I also find that much of the mid-range and lower notes obscure each other, even when finger-picking. Having said all of that, I've only got Spruce topped instruments in my collection, except my 12 string, which was a compromise for me and required for about three songs we do with our band. I'd be really interested in a comparison of the back tone woods, but it would make for a pretty lengthy video! Two of mine are Rosewood, one, maple and the other cherry...my next planned purchase is a Walnut-Spruce combination...hopefully!
@Tomadair1
@Tomadair1 4 жыл бұрын
Great player, great teacher, and yet Darrell you are so humble and without ego. Love your videos and their subjects but this channel is great because of your character, good on you mate regards Tom Adair.
@laurenswindlehurst8484
@laurenswindlehurst8484 3 жыл бұрын
My sincerest apologies if you mentioned this in the video and I didn’t catch it, but if I recall you had your Stonebridge for some time before this video and the spruce guitar was fairly new. I feel that this can definitely contribute to how good the guitar sounds as I prefer them “played in.” As always great video!
@ianlarrimore8
@ianlarrimore8 4 жыл бұрын
Cedar. Again. I seem to almost always be a sucker for a good cedar top. Warmer, sweeter, rounder, and that-certain-something-I-can't-describe-er. It probably acts like some kind of combing filter for the string frequencies, and I love it--I don't mind what it takes out, and I love what it leaves in. I don't hate spruce--especially on older guitars, but right outta the stall, I usually prefer the sound of cedar. And I definitely agree that cedar's a great choice for fingerstyle. Thank you for making this video--it helps give me some more words to describe what I hear and feel. So here's a video idea for you: Have you thought of doing like a spectrogram-analysis video for things like cedar vs. spruce and gloss vs. matte? They use them in linguistics to analyze speech (I took some classes in it years ago and loved the takeaways for musical applications). It's a really cool way to visualize sound--you can see where the fundamental frequency is and where the overtones are and which ones are strongest. I'd love to see a scientific study on the different frequency prints to know just exactly what is going on, what I'm hearing, what I think I'm hearing and why. Just a thought--your video on sustain and solid-body guitars was golden! I guess I'm thinking of something like that. But this time you could leave all guitars involved intact, which I guess they would appreciate.
@patrickjoy9551
@patrickjoy9551 Жыл бұрын
The spruce was clear, defined and projected well. But man oh man the cedar was like hot cocoa on a cold winter day. Sweet, smooth and warm to the ears. Beautiful overtones with mids to die for. The spruce would definitely be great for a band to help cut through and the cedar fills that void for that intimate setting for a singer alone. Both outstanding instruments and would be happy with either.
@stevenhunt4114
@stevenhunt4114 4 жыл бұрын
What a really great comparison video! I am looking to buy a Furch and this has helped to understand which top I prefer. I really didn't think I was going to hear such a big difference. For me, I prefer the chime and shimmer of the spruce if I had to pick one.
@TW-il4vy
@TW-il4vy 3 жыл бұрын
Best comparison video, especially the clear single-note comparisons. I prefer the warmth of the Cedar.
@Alex-rp8fu
@Alex-rp8fu 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting comparison, thanks for sharing. I recently bought an Eastman AC222CE that should have come with a spruce top, however due to the tone (and color) I suspect it has a cedar top, the sounds was what stood out to me when testing the guitar, and after watching this video, I am convinced it is cedar. I could have returned it due to the manufacturing inconsistency, however I really like the sound and the fact that it is probably a rare event to have an AC222 with a different top than the one in the specs.
@LumenRoy
@LumenRoy 3 жыл бұрын
very important detail that was missed is that the spruce was an orchestra body shape and the cedar was a grand auditorium shape, which is partly why there's more low end and overall depth to the cedar one. Have played both and for most people the grand auditorium is the more suitable shape
@martinaatmusicmarcom6157
@martinaatmusicmarcom6157 4 жыл бұрын
Great video again, and a very nice mic 😊❤
@patricklundquist9869
@patricklundquist9869 2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised that I liked the cedar more. Also, I am a big fan of partial capos. I prefer Schubb partial capos for the ability to skip past it to play the three open strings below the capo when it is set on the 4th fret. Kyser Shortcut capo handles stick so far out they block access. Really dig your version of 'Amazing Grace'.
@brewmusic58
@brewmusic58 4 жыл бұрын
I agree that the spruce top is much brighter and produced a slightly higher volume. The cedar is warm and allows notes to blend in a rich, warm tone. Side note... what key were you tuned to when using double capos? That was fantastic.
@CoopsXKE
@CoopsXKE 4 жыл бұрын
I’m a little late to the comments section here but I really feel compelled to weigh in, even if nobody reads my comments. Darrell, your playing is lovely, expressive, sensitive, accomplished and flawless. This comparison is one of the best I’ve seen yet. My overall impression is that both tops work very well, each in different applications. Cedar is a much softer wood than Spruce thus it is more responsive under a soft and medium attack. It has less headroom than spruce and thus breaks up under aggressive play, especially strumming and hard lead with a pick. A Cedar top, assuming it is braced well, cannot be beat for general fingerstyle, Celtic, arpeggiated melody, chord melody and songwriting. Spruce is stiffer thus imparts a more distinct and clear note differentiation. It is immediate, loud, has good headroom, holds up to picks and gets better with age. Cedar will age but not like Spruce. Cedar has tons of overtones and harmonics. Spruce is somewhat more direct and clear which makes it great for lead and rhythm. I own several of both and love them all for different reasons. Cedar tops are soft. They ding if you so much as look at them cross eyed. If that bothers you then buyer beware. I’m having a custom Lowden built for me, Cedar over Madagascar Rosewood. It was a difficult choice but ultimately Cedar won out because I felt it best represented the Lowden tonal character. If it was a custom Martin I might have chosen Englemann or Euro Spruce or maybe even Sitka. This was a really informative comparison but to my ear, admittedly very sensitive, the Stonebridge guitar was tuned off key by a few cents. That made the comparison a tiny bit skewed. Nonetheless it shows clearly the value of tonewood selection and that there isn’t one perfect combination. Well done!
@josephullman1526
@josephullman1526 3 жыл бұрын
Both are breathtaking as is your playing. Would give the nod to the spruce. Btw largely because of your videos I have Furch violet spruce and Furch indigo cedar.
@danielgriffin8308
@danielgriffin8308 Жыл бұрын
Very nice video. I have been mulling over this topic for some time. . Still can't decide. Video was helpful but will have to play both and then choose.Thanks
@TravisHam
@TravisHam 2 жыл бұрын
Great shootout! Given the comments of how each tone wood might perform in a mix, it’d be great to have another similar shootout that does exactly that: puts each of these in a mix on rhythm in a few different styles to give a better sense of how they’d perform in real-world situations.
@miker5502
@miker5502 4 жыл бұрын
Great 👍 comparison! Well played and recorded...as usual! Thanks for this, now if I could only play like that..Cheers Mike in Nova Scotia.
@jay105000
@jay105000 7 ай бұрын
I have seen several videos of this comparison but in my opinion you are the only one doing it right because you choose almost the exact same guitar , same size, almost all things being equal with the only difference being the top. I think if you want to play with other people and do solos the spruce is the way to go because is brighter and stands out more, more attack but l as forgiving you make a mistake and people will clearly heard it . While the Cedar has a warmer tone but more in the low profile side kind of round creamy sound . I think is a matter of preference and what you want to do and with whom you are doing it. At the end what matters is your dexterity and the sound that you can produce with your guitar and the sensation that you want to convey. Nice video thanks for doing this.
@alharris9284
@alharris9284 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for doing an acoustic video. Would you consider to do more acoustic videos, please?
@thiendipham828
@thiendipham828 4 жыл бұрын
I do have my cedar acoustic guitar (first guitar ever that I own). It sounds fuller, deeper & warmer while I play percussive fingerstyle guitar
@russellharris5072
@russellharris5072 4 жыл бұрын
Those two guitars are quite new aren't they? Over time i think the spruce one will mature to give a better overall sound.Cedar is a much softer wood which can lead to distortion of the top both behind and in front of the bridge.Did Furch compensate for this during the build?Something for you to keep an eye on............................
@strumbum946
@strumbum946 4 жыл бұрын
Just curious. Do both guitars have the same brand and age strings? I really wish when someone does a comparison of two guitars they would tell the brand of strings being used. Even guitars of the same construction can have different tones with different brands of strings/gauge of strings...
@putridabomination
@putridabomination 4 жыл бұрын
Fresh strings do make a difference.
@barrywebber100
@barrywebber100 4 жыл бұрын
I was surprised at the difference and overall preferred the cedar sound. Thanks for posting you are a skilled guitarist.
@Rory99M
@Rory99M 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that brilliant review. I completely agree with your conclusion.
@raulands
@raulands Жыл бұрын
They both sound great to me. But Sitka seems more expressive, with more clarity. In my opinion, this suits fingerstyle very nice as the melody needs to stand out. Cedar sounds beautiful, too, and the darker wood looks nicer.
@64RRussell
@64RRussell 6 ай бұрын
Great video, truly displaying the differences.
@eltimbalerdelbruc1414
@eltimbalerdelbruc1414 4 жыл бұрын
Notionally, it sounds like Spruce is in major key, and Cedar in a minor key?
@mathieumassicotte8881
@mathieumassicotte8881 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Great comparison! I own this very same Stonebridge cedar top guitar. Sometimes, I wish I could toggle a switch and turn it into a spruce top guitar. What a presence with strumming!
@martineweb3788
@martineweb3788 4 жыл бұрын
thank you! Very educational video! I love it!
@jeffspirdione8135
@jeffspirdione8135 4 жыл бұрын
As a novice, that's just learning to play at 57, the cedar seemed to have a warmer sound, as opposed to a more crisp sound with the spruce.
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