Did you guys favour the Spruce or the Cedar top? Let me know! Enjoy :)
@cedarthetree764 жыл бұрын
Hmmm.....
4 жыл бұрын
Myself I like the Spruce top the best.
@ZacCostilla4 жыл бұрын
Usually a cedar guy, with a few exceptions. My flamenco guitar is spruce top on cypress sides/back, and it’s the best nylon string I’ve ever played, with a bell like timber. I generally don’t like cedar on a shorter scale, because it gets too mellow.
@CareAgainFishing4 жыл бұрын
I concur: The cedar is the favored wood for solo finger-style/classical acoustic; the kind of thing where it's just one person in a room... or maybe two, complimentary, acoustics playing together. I think you've demonstrated why so many high-end classical guitars are made with cedar. Comparing the two is kind of like comparing sushi and barbecue. Both are awesome, but to be successful they function best when used in the right context.
@strumminronin4 жыл бұрын
That old travel guitar you demo'ed, with carbon fibre. :)
@BeardedBluesDude4 жыл бұрын
The correct answer is. "It depends" :) Spruce sounds much brighter and the Ceder sounds warmer.
@asamakowski83164 жыл бұрын
BeardedBlues Dude nah spruce gang for life
@jeffreyschaefer39794 жыл бұрын
What did Gordon Lighrfoot play? Spruce or Cedar? Whatever he played. I'll go with that.
@DavidOnTheRoadGuitars4 жыл бұрын
Strange I thought the cedar was more bright than the spruce.
@musik4life244 жыл бұрын
What its exact the opposite
@BeardedBluesDude4 жыл бұрын
To my ears the spruce was way brighter
@RobertBakerGuitar4 жыл бұрын
100% agree. I liked the Cedar more but can see how the Spruce would be king if playing with other instruments.
@Motoroil5553 жыл бұрын
What's up Rob love your vids too
@L2FlyMN3 жыл бұрын
I think the cedar had a warmer tone, & the spruce, a bit sharper.
@sethcaine36593 жыл бұрын
Well said, thats how I feel too.
@mxh56474 жыл бұрын
Personally I preferred the cedar but... I was flabbergasted at how I could hear the differences. I had heard they were different but wow I'd never heard them back to back like that. That was very educational for me. Thank you.
@donklink45713 жыл бұрын
Darrell you are one of the best reviewers. You play short chordal tones and riffs with each guitar. A lot of folks play one guitar too long and by the time they switch my ears have lost context. Your comparison was comprehensive without overwhelming me with one sound. And you play beautifully too.
@GuyFrets3 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed by how much more clarity and definition the spruce provides.
@madave47873 жыл бұрын
I am classically trained. I play classical guitar and in the classical world that has been a struggle whether to choose a cedar top or a spruce top. You actually nailed the obvious characteristics of the two Woods
@KP-by4eu Жыл бұрын
there's no contest among classical guitars. The best classical guitars are always spruce.
@RC32Smiths014 жыл бұрын
It is quite insane how wood can really bring out the tone in a guitar! Great shootout here!
@MisterRorschach904 жыл бұрын
I mean that is literally what they are made out of.. lol
@BobJones-bh9qz4 жыл бұрын
In an acoustic guitar*
@BD-me4nk4 жыл бұрын
Both sounded great and a perfect demonstration of the wood qualities. The recording sounded amazing. I bet those new Austrian mics will be on many peoples radars
@justinshew404 жыл бұрын
I like the cedar one better. It definitely has a warmer, fuller sound.
@cedarthetree764 жыл бұрын
Thanks! (Look at the name)
@MisterRorschach904 жыл бұрын
Cedar Schumacher yep
@Hild1 Жыл бұрын
Cedar has a rather mushy sound while spruce is much crisper in the trebles.
@davidappleby721410 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comparison, Darrell. Excellent playing and presentation, as usual. Of course both tops have their unique sound characteristics. I am in the market for a cedar top, and I really appreciate the sound samples!
@johnmathia3574 жыл бұрын
They both sounded great, but the depth and richness of the cedar top just blows me away. I love it. Now I've got to get me an acoustic with a cedar top and a rosewood body. My wife will be so happy lol.
@gijsbertuslaurensvandevooren2 жыл бұрын
Promise her shoes.
@digitalchris66814 жыл бұрын
Trouble is, although Spruce sounds much brighter here, after a couple of years of playing it will sound mellower whilst the Cedar only changes minimally (this based on my numerous acoustic, classical, and flamenco guitars). Indeed I've had Spruce (Sitka) turn so dull after a few years that it is unplayable: Cedar, however, still sounds almost the same as new.
@destianpatrianagara11193 жыл бұрын
Thanks happy to hear from someone who own both!
@aggabus3 жыл бұрын
Dull unplayable oh no
@nicholash80212 жыл бұрын
You sure that's not the strings? Brand new strings can even be quite the opposite--too lively with too many overtones/harmonics. Old strings, sure, very dull. Can also be due to other issues with the guitar. I've had nearly 20 guitars and some spruce over 30 years old and it sounds warmer, but absolutely not dull.
@VividFizzy2 жыл бұрын
@@nicholash8021 I’ve had my Sitka spruce 10+ years and it sounds even better than it ever did. Not sure what he’s talking about and That’s my first time hearing that
@MrSJPowell4 жыл бұрын
When doing comparisons like this, I'd really love to see a Fourier Transformation to see where the resonances are different. Not sure if you're set up for that, but if you could, I think that would give more concrete explanations than "bright" or "round".
@lynnmorgan32833 жыл бұрын
Great video Darrell and amazing "Amazing Grace" Thank you!
@nixternal4 жыл бұрын
#1 - I liked them both, cedar was a little warmer which I liked. #2 - I think I preferred cedar here #3 - higher up the neck when you hit that barre, I liked the cedar better #4 - OMG THE SPRUCE! It sounded just like the bagpipe you would hear that from, though the cedar wasn't far off from it, I'll take the spruce here. #5 - chord I think I will give it to the cedar, but for the single notes I liked the spruce. Look wise, I liked the cedar better, but I think I will agree with your closing arguments for sure. I think I want a cedar top box now :)
@melaniefayemusic Жыл бұрын
very surprised to see most of the comments saying they prefer cedar. it makes me wonder, do you all hear laurel, or yanny?
@jackharper67464 жыл бұрын
the best comparison! this is how comparisons should be done: short identical pieces + genuinely good mic
@JamForThought Жыл бұрын
This guy does the best comparison videos. Hands down.
@martinreichenbachmusiker3 жыл бұрын
I've got a Furch Blue Gc CM (Cedar top, Mahagony bottom and sides) and yeah I enjoy playing fingerstyle on it. I find it well balanced
@FurchGuitarsOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being with us, Martin! 🙏🏻
@OscarBenben Жыл бұрын
I prefer the sound of cedar tops but I believe the esthetic is better with a Sitka spruce. I have the same thing with mahogany vs rosewood back and sides. I prefer mahogany sound but Indian rosewood is so marvelously beautiful ! So my favorite sounding guitar doesn’t match my favorite esthetic guitar. That’s my forever dilemma but I will always sacrifice the look because sound is what this instrument is made for
@thejeffersonlee3 жыл бұрын
I have a Seagull Entourage with cedar top and cherry back and sides. I previously owned a Seagull with spruce top and mahogany back and sides. There is a difference. I can't say for sure if the cedar changed what I heard and consequently what I played, or if own tastes in what and how I played changed, probably both, but I have been able to do just about everything I did with the cedar top and more that I could do with the spruce top. The cedar does tend to "hit the wall" sooner when hitting things harder. You get what I think of as "acoustic overdrive" sooner where you get that kind of break-up of tone from heavier strumming/picking. While spruce tops can handle that heavier hitting before "breaking up", it has been, in my experience, not as advantageous in the grand scheme. I wish more guitars were offered with cedar tops. Loudness isn't so much an issue if you're mic'ed up or playing in a band mix. Just tweak your amp/PA/pedals. Nuance when an acoustic guitar is soloing or by itself is more important, something that cedar tops do better.
@kenimiller38964 жыл бұрын
The sound of the cedar made me immediately think of Medieval & Renaissance music, reminded me of listening to John Renbourn.
@pattymulligan23894 жыл бұрын
i love the tone of cedar. (and im not gonna be in a band so...)i mustve been in renaissance, past life
@EatMyBacon0003 ай бұрын
cedar is actually used mostly on classical guitars for nylon strings
@akaoveveАй бұрын
Perfect 👌! Very good, quality information! Exactly what I was looking for: a short, prefssional recording and comparison! Thank you!
@worldgonewrong20494 жыл бұрын
You can use both in any situation. I've recorded with both. If the mix is 'denser' as some put it, you use the right mic and positioning, mix accordingly. An acoustic will not get lost in a mix if you know what you're doing, regardless of what the top of an acoustic guitar is made of!
@geoffreysaadi30043 жыл бұрын
what is the model of the Stonebridge? I am French I did not understand if he spoke about it. he may be comparing 2 guitars that are not in the same price range 🤔
@glennjustice27603 жыл бұрын
One of the best demos I’ve heard. Thinking of trying the warmer sound of cedar. I play mostly finger style. Thanks again. Great playing.
@ukulelewithtyler3 жыл бұрын
To my ears, cedar always sounds a bit muddy due to the abundance of overtones. Of course, not all guitars are created equally, and it often depends on the bracing technique and wood thickness. However, I generally prefer the more fundamental tone which spruce has to offer.
@brockglaze4 жыл бұрын
If Stradivarius would have had access to American Red Cedar, I guarantee he would have used it on most of his violins!
@roume.33044 жыл бұрын
I doubt it, there's a reason why most of the luthiers use spruce. Its because of projection and tone, spruce is unique for its stiffness and projection.
@roume.33044 жыл бұрын
Violins must be heard in big orchestras and halls. That's why projection is always looked for, as for guitars it is known to be a little quieter hence, the invention of electronic amplification.
@genipaisley43403 жыл бұрын
Funny that you mention violins because I was definitely getting a violin vibe from the cedar top guitar, especially when he was playing Amazing Grace.
@johncollins5552 Жыл бұрын
I have a friend who has been making violins for over twenty years, they cost about three thousand dollars and I hope someday he will make a guitar for me as he has never made one but told me it's something he has wanted to do but not sure I could afford it!
@ryedylantm4 жыл бұрын
Refreshing "Amazing Grace" brief instru with the Capo part.
@8944bdp4 ай бұрын
Great comparison. I've never seen TWO capos used at the same time. That was new. Now I"ve got to try it.
@Tonedog883 жыл бұрын
I like all your videos, but THAT was the most informative I've heard so far, answering a question I've had for a long time. Thanks, Darrell!
@sugatooth4 жыл бұрын
Hi Darrell do you plan to do a studio tour anytime soon? Would love to see some behind the scenes stuff!
@TomasMichaud4 жыл бұрын
This was a fantastic comparison, Darrell. I really like how you narrowed it down to just chords and notes. I happen to be in the market for a Furch guitar and am trying to decide if I should buy the Cedar top or Spruce top. Your video is perfect. Since I have other acoustic guitars for strumming I'm going to go with the Cedar top for fingerstyle.
@hatemmegaly96132 жыл бұрын
So I can still stum with a spruce-top guitar, like the Furch GC-SR Deluxe. right? or it's better only for fingerstyle?
@vyvynylification Жыл бұрын
@@hatemmegaly9613 I'd argue that spruce would suit strumming better than cedar, for sure
@andrewthomas75443 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. Thanks!. Having played cedar for +50 years, I wanted to try something more "in-your-face, flamenco, raw, loud.....", ie. less subtle. I love the soft delicacy of the cedar, but sometimes my mood needs more ragged, earthy, more violent passion, as I go mental and do my crazy riffs with eyes shut!! Definitely, one of each.
@tamwar34 жыл бұрын
Spruce for me! The cedar sounded a little too muted, less sustain and lacked the 'bell' like clarity of the spruce. Great comparison though 👍
@chezruss3 жыл бұрын
not only do I prefer the sound of the cedar but I think it looks magnificent too. thanks for this well recorded video with those fantastic Furch guitars - can I ask is there a great difference in the pricing of the two?
@Freefallr604 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Vid and the Question. Spruce especially paired with a rosewood has such the familiar beautiful sound. Rhythm and melody, however I've fallen big time over Western Red Cedar. It just goes right through me. I've always liked a darker sound, or warmer, but this is special
@scottfishkind53353 жыл бұрын
Great comparison, I agree with your assessment of the tonal characteristics!! I'm also very interested in Furch as a front runner for my next guitar!!
@rupertmarks66192 жыл бұрын
I recently bought a Furch cedar/mahogany dread from their ‘Blue’ range, which is their entry point for all solid wood. The mahogany seems to me to maximise the characteristics of the cedar top as described in the video. Ideal for solo fingerstyle, and I’m very pleased with it.
@Madchris88283 жыл бұрын
That is an absolutely beautiful rendition or piece of a rendition of amazing grace. Sounding so amazing on the cedar guitar too!
@BC0guitar4 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison! The spruce model looks pretty new. It'd be interesting to re-record the same clips in the same manner on the spruce model in a couple of years or so, with the aim of seeing how the sound changes with the age of the guitar
@earthsteward94 жыл бұрын
I wonder if mellow strings on the spruce guitar vs bright strings on the cedar guitar would sound. For example monel strings on the spruce and 80/20 bronze on cedar
@R.Stridstrom4 жыл бұрын
I changed the eq by suppressing the mid-strong frequencies with strings on mine, actually i also put a fatter low E on, and it smoothed out (flattened) the eq and softened the (perceived) output a tiny bit. It still projected the sound better than many spruce tops i have tried. And i got what i wanted. I bet you could tweak a spruce top too. 80/20 p-b was what i went with. I believe that the rosewood back and sides contributes to the mellow tone in this vid. Mahogany would be snappier.
@GearGasms4 жыл бұрын
Or even flatwounds on the spruce
@MrGorpm4 жыл бұрын
Why not go the other way?
@tellstarrsixtwo712013 сағат бұрын
Since the Orange Master’s Choice is a Sitka spruce guitar, I'm wondering how Engelmann spruce would sound compared to those 2 tonewoods. Seems to have some attributes of cedar, so maybe a "in-between" option ? Compared to Sitka spruce : • Warmer • Richer and more complex overtones • More responsive to light touch
@nobodys.shapeshifter4 жыл бұрын
Spruce would sound better in most mixes, especially a dense mix.
@brockglaze4 жыл бұрын
I agree. This is why you must own both. Cedar for solo singer-songwriter stuff. And Spruce for standing out in a band!
@GearGasms4 жыл бұрын
Yes it definitely cuts more
@celineellismusic51124 жыл бұрын
Im on the Spruce side in this comparison, there just seems to be a better presence on the spruce and cedar seemed to sound a bit flat for me in comparison. but both guitars sound absolutely gorgeous and really show of your playing skill!
@quietCello3 жыл бұрын
Looks like there is another important factor that contributes to the tone difference here => the depth of the guitar body. (see 5:29 and 5:32) The Cedar-top guitar has at least 1-2 cm "deeper" than its spruce counterpart. Since bigger body usually projects lower-end better, I do not rule out the possibility that the warmth of Cedar is to some degrees enhanced by the greater depth of the body :) Would be curious to see a "fairer" ad stricter comparison of the same build with different tops eh. After doing some research, I notice that the Yellow Series has both cedar and spruce top with the same body dimension. Perhaps an idea for the new video? :)
@brucecrow11423 жыл бұрын
well done comparison review!
@eirenewee3 жыл бұрын
The differences were noticeable and your demo definitely helped bring these out! I wasn’t expecting to hear such a distinct difference; agreed with you. I confess to having a cedar preference (and hence mahogany) rather than the brighter flatter spruce - even for strumming.
@matthewlugar7 ай бұрын
Best comparison of cedar vs. spruce tops I've seen. Thank you!
@richellmcknight4464 жыл бұрын
The cedar is definitly warmer, huh, I didn't think I'd be able to hear that! Cool!😁💖
@GearGasms4 жыл бұрын
Richell Mcknight yeah it was way more noticeable
@rodrigosilveirafagundes50014 жыл бұрын
Great comparison! Thanks!
@jmscnny2 жыл бұрын
As a finger picker, I have always loved the sound of my old Seagull S6 with its cedar top over my more expensive guitars with sitka spruce tops. I always just put it down to the manufacturing differences of the instruments and the fact that I have had the Seagull longer and just got used to it, but I now see just how much of a difference the tonewood makes. I have never heard a back to back comparison that definitive before. The spruce is definitely cleaner and brighter, but the cedar is way more intimate, and still my favorite.
@deanace7772 жыл бұрын
I also have and love my Seagull,,, cherry side
@dariosaviors4 жыл бұрын
Spruce for me! Absolutely in love with my Seagull S6 Slim CH, solid spruce top and wild cherry body (the wood, not the color!), and love the satin neck too! 🇨🇦!!! (BTW, you can partially “EQ” the wood tone by swapping string type. F.E. tried the D’Addario Original American 85/15, brought some warmer e rounded tone, dispite of a bit of mid-hi cutting and sustain loss. Next swap, D’Addario Nickel Bronze, cant’wait to try them out!) Very clear and interesting video! Cheers from Italy!
@jimboclox2252 Жыл бұрын
My first little guitar was cedar top. I loved that mellow muted tone. Good for someone not too accurate at picking.
@bowtiepotato5544 жыл бұрын
These are both such beautiful guitars! Thank you for this upload it really helped me choose my guitar 🙌🏻
@bobbwest3 жыл бұрын
Your ability to translate subjective sonic impressions and somehow quantify them into objective criteria is marvelous (subjective opinion 😁). You very much enable me to hear what you are hearing as you teach the differences. I get it! I pride myself in being able to maintain objectivity and avoid subjective influences, such as brand or hype. I throughly enjoy all your evaluations. It is clear that you strive to maintain an objective posture and transmit the “feeling” type information in a way that I can clearly understand. I feel like I’m rambling, but it is important to me that I express my recognition to you as positive feedback for your analysis. Thank you much Darrell for all you do! I always learn so much when I watch your vids, especially the comparison type vids. Thank you!
@Danderman888 Жыл бұрын
My preference is absolutely same as yours. My preference is for finger type playing, so you can easily guess my preference. Besides, my preference for a more intimate setting does make the cedar more pleasant.
@chrisfrezza14494 жыл бұрын
I personally enjoyed the Spruce higher on the neck/riffing and cedar lower on the neck/strumming. Both are fantastic instruments for their own purpose. BTW the thumbnail has the two headers over the wrong guitars. Great stuff as always Darrell!
@rayschoch58824 жыл бұрын
Wow. Overall, Darrell, I have to agree with your conclusions. I often don't hear much of a difference between guitars, but this time, it's quite noticeable. Cedar is warmer and fuller, but also didn't project quite as well, while the spruce is brighter and more sharp. I enjoyed what sounded like a Scottish bagpipe imitation from about 4:15 to 5:00. Both guitars sound great, but if I have to choose, I'll go with the cedar (I'm a bedroom guitarist, so no band mix to cut through).
@jjohnson8933 ай бұрын
Long time follower, will always lean on your advice. Here's a thought, (first, let me preface that I do not think the back and sides make as much of a difference as we think it does) Driftwood guitars uses laminated sides and when you think about it like a drum, this starts to make more sense) I think it's pretty clear that a cedar top has deeper more mellow upper mid-range tones, it's a softer wood that kind of seems to make sense. Spruce top, more dense, less flexibility. Higher notes. So then what about more exotic tops like KOA or mahogany? Traditionally we have classified these as darker tones more muted, but given the fact they are a more stiff wood similar to the spruce, why would it not be the same in the sense of brightness? So what's the difference? Is it all mental and we're just buying on looks? Possibly.
@cass27714 жыл бұрын
I wasn’t prepared for the extent of the difference! In my head, I picture the cedar as my bedroom guitar (love the warmth), and the spruce for performances (love the projection). Great demo, Thank you.
@scottfishkind53352 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your excellent videos!! I ended up purchasing the Furch Yellow Master's Choice yesterday and it is incredible!! The Cedar Rosewood combination is exactly the sound I was looking for! I also played a Blue Master's Choice and it was also a wonderful guitar, just a little different than my tonal preference, but still a guitar I would be very happy with! Since this was my dream guitar purchase I went ahead and got the Yellow (also preferred the LR Baggs Anthem Stage Pro and the Hiscox case is a heck of a nice extra) but for other folks looking for that Cedar Mahogany sound I highly recommend the Blue. Furch has something extra in the resonant qualities of their guitars. I happen to also be a fan of Breedlove, I have one of their ECO Discovery S Concert Cedar Mahogany guitars, and tried their Redwood Rosewood Premier yesterday as a comparison. While it was a great guitar, the Furch had a bit more of that tonal quality I was looking for.
@1olddoggie4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I own a Furch with Spruce and Mahogany back. Great comparison! Love Furch's and Stonebridge. Great playing!
@johncollins5552 Жыл бұрын
Lowdens are my favourite.
@visitur49144 жыл бұрын
As I was listening, the cedar reminded me so much of the tone of nylon strings. Darrell's summary at the end was spot on.
@abdulkhaliq12264 жыл бұрын
Out of my Acoustic guitars I usually go for the cedar. It often sets the mood for and music I write. Always when I play Gordon Lightfoot music I'll use cedar. When I for an audience it will usually be spruce. Has the projection and sound I like for that type of venue. Thanks DBG 👍
@simonhargreaves51233 жыл бұрын
Both guitars are very beautiful! The spruce has a sparkly magic that takes it for me
@stevec.18023 жыл бұрын
I can hear similarities and differences depending on what you’re playing with each guitar. At the end of the day it comes down to the one you like. Love your presentations and playing. Thank You.
@framdigo55554 жыл бұрын
great video, thanks for making it! You executed it with perfection!
@chriswindross91614 жыл бұрын
Interesting demo. such a big difference in sounds. I agree with your conclusions and I think I prefer the cedar (which means I'll now have to buy one!)
@israelunterman4 жыл бұрын
While I couldn't hear a difference in the cedar vs mahagony you did in on one of the videos, this time I did hear a difference, I love the cedar. Its voice has more character, like some EQ was applied, a more interesting sound.
@poke12gauge324 жыл бұрын
The cedar sounds more tone rich to me especially on the low notes
@R.Stridstrom4 жыл бұрын
Lots of overtones
@richardgreen68574 жыл бұрын
Very subjectively, my preference is the Spruce. The Cedar is definitely "darker", but I also find that much of the mid-range and lower notes obscure each other, even when finger-picking. Having said all of that, I've only got Spruce topped instruments in my collection, except my 12 string, which was a compromise for me and required for about three songs we do with our band. I'd be really interested in a comparison of the back tone woods, but it would make for a pretty lengthy video! Two of mine are Rosewood, one, maple and the other cherry...my next planned purchase is a Walnut-Spruce combination...hopefully!
@Tomadair14 жыл бұрын
Great player, great teacher, and yet Darrell you are so humble and without ego. Love your videos and their subjects but this channel is great because of your character, good on you mate regards Tom Adair.
@laurenswindlehurst84843 жыл бұрын
My sincerest apologies if you mentioned this in the video and I didn’t catch it, but if I recall you had your Stonebridge for some time before this video and the spruce guitar was fairly new. I feel that this can definitely contribute to how good the guitar sounds as I prefer them “played in.” As always great video!
@ianlarrimore84 жыл бұрын
Cedar. Again. I seem to almost always be a sucker for a good cedar top. Warmer, sweeter, rounder, and that-certain-something-I-can't-describe-er. It probably acts like some kind of combing filter for the string frequencies, and I love it--I don't mind what it takes out, and I love what it leaves in. I don't hate spruce--especially on older guitars, but right outta the stall, I usually prefer the sound of cedar. And I definitely agree that cedar's a great choice for fingerstyle. Thank you for making this video--it helps give me some more words to describe what I hear and feel. So here's a video idea for you: Have you thought of doing like a spectrogram-analysis video for things like cedar vs. spruce and gloss vs. matte? They use them in linguistics to analyze speech (I took some classes in it years ago and loved the takeaways for musical applications). It's a really cool way to visualize sound--you can see where the fundamental frequency is and where the overtones are and which ones are strongest. I'd love to see a scientific study on the different frequency prints to know just exactly what is going on, what I'm hearing, what I think I'm hearing and why. Just a thought--your video on sustain and solid-body guitars was golden! I guess I'm thinking of something like that. But this time you could leave all guitars involved intact, which I guess they would appreciate.
@patrickjoy9551 Жыл бұрын
The spruce was clear, defined and projected well. But man oh man the cedar was like hot cocoa on a cold winter day. Sweet, smooth and warm to the ears. Beautiful overtones with mids to die for. The spruce would definitely be great for a band to help cut through and the cedar fills that void for that intimate setting for a singer alone. Both outstanding instruments and would be happy with either.
@stevenhunt41144 жыл бұрын
What a really great comparison video! I am looking to buy a Furch and this has helped to understand which top I prefer. I really didn't think I was going to hear such a big difference. For me, I prefer the chime and shimmer of the spruce if I had to pick one.
@TW-il4vy3 жыл бұрын
Best comparison video, especially the clear single-note comparisons. I prefer the warmth of the Cedar.
@Alex-rp8fu2 жыл бұрын
Interesting comparison, thanks for sharing. I recently bought an Eastman AC222CE that should have come with a spruce top, however due to the tone (and color) I suspect it has a cedar top, the sounds was what stood out to me when testing the guitar, and after watching this video, I am convinced it is cedar. I could have returned it due to the manufacturing inconsistency, however I really like the sound and the fact that it is probably a rare event to have an AC222 with a different top than the one in the specs.
@LumenRoy3 жыл бұрын
very important detail that was missed is that the spruce was an orchestra body shape and the cedar was a grand auditorium shape, which is partly why there's more low end and overall depth to the cedar one. Have played both and for most people the grand auditorium is the more suitable shape
@martinaatmusicmarcom61574 жыл бұрын
Great video again, and a very nice mic 😊❤
@patricklundquist98692 жыл бұрын
I was surprised that I liked the cedar more. Also, I am a big fan of partial capos. I prefer Schubb partial capos for the ability to skip past it to play the three open strings below the capo when it is set on the 4th fret. Kyser Shortcut capo handles stick so far out they block access. Really dig your version of 'Amazing Grace'.
@brewmusic584 жыл бұрын
I agree that the spruce top is much brighter and produced a slightly higher volume. The cedar is warm and allows notes to blend in a rich, warm tone. Side note... what key were you tuned to when using double capos? That was fantastic.
@CoopsXKE4 жыл бұрын
I’m a little late to the comments section here but I really feel compelled to weigh in, even if nobody reads my comments. Darrell, your playing is lovely, expressive, sensitive, accomplished and flawless. This comparison is one of the best I’ve seen yet. My overall impression is that both tops work very well, each in different applications. Cedar is a much softer wood than Spruce thus it is more responsive under a soft and medium attack. It has less headroom than spruce and thus breaks up under aggressive play, especially strumming and hard lead with a pick. A Cedar top, assuming it is braced well, cannot be beat for general fingerstyle, Celtic, arpeggiated melody, chord melody and songwriting. Spruce is stiffer thus imparts a more distinct and clear note differentiation. It is immediate, loud, has good headroom, holds up to picks and gets better with age. Cedar will age but not like Spruce. Cedar has tons of overtones and harmonics. Spruce is somewhat more direct and clear which makes it great for lead and rhythm. I own several of both and love them all for different reasons. Cedar tops are soft. They ding if you so much as look at them cross eyed. If that bothers you then buyer beware. I’m having a custom Lowden built for me, Cedar over Madagascar Rosewood. It was a difficult choice but ultimately Cedar won out because I felt it best represented the Lowden tonal character. If it was a custom Martin I might have chosen Englemann or Euro Spruce or maybe even Sitka. This was a really informative comparison but to my ear, admittedly very sensitive, the Stonebridge guitar was tuned off key by a few cents. That made the comparison a tiny bit skewed. Nonetheless it shows clearly the value of tonewood selection and that there isn’t one perfect combination. Well done!
@josephullman15263 жыл бұрын
Both are breathtaking as is your playing. Would give the nod to the spruce. Btw largely because of your videos I have Furch violet spruce and Furch indigo cedar.
@danielgriffin8308 Жыл бұрын
Very nice video. I have been mulling over this topic for some time. . Still can't decide. Video was helpful but will have to play both and then choose.Thanks
@TravisHam2 жыл бұрын
Great shootout! Given the comments of how each tone wood might perform in a mix, it’d be great to have another similar shootout that does exactly that: puts each of these in a mix on rhythm in a few different styles to give a better sense of how they’d perform in real-world situations.
@miker55024 жыл бұрын
Great 👍 comparison! Well played and recorded...as usual! Thanks for this, now if I could only play like that..Cheers Mike in Nova Scotia.
@jay1050007 ай бұрын
I have seen several videos of this comparison but in my opinion you are the only one doing it right because you choose almost the exact same guitar , same size, almost all things being equal with the only difference being the top. I think if you want to play with other people and do solos the spruce is the way to go because is brighter and stands out more, more attack but l as forgiving you make a mistake and people will clearly heard it . While the Cedar has a warmer tone but more in the low profile side kind of round creamy sound . I think is a matter of preference and what you want to do and with whom you are doing it. At the end what matters is your dexterity and the sound that you can produce with your guitar and the sensation that you want to convey. Nice video thanks for doing this.
@alharris92844 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for doing an acoustic video. Would you consider to do more acoustic videos, please?
@thiendipham8284 жыл бұрын
I do have my cedar acoustic guitar (first guitar ever that I own). It sounds fuller, deeper & warmer while I play percussive fingerstyle guitar
@russellharris50724 жыл бұрын
Those two guitars are quite new aren't they? Over time i think the spruce one will mature to give a better overall sound.Cedar is a much softer wood which can lead to distortion of the top both behind and in front of the bridge.Did Furch compensate for this during the build?Something for you to keep an eye on............................
@strumbum9464 жыл бұрын
Just curious. Do both guitars have the same brand and age strings? I really wish when someone does a comparison of two guitars they would tell the brand of strings being used. Even guitars of the same construction can have different tones with different brands of strings/gauge of strings...
@putridabomination4 жыл бұрын
Fresh strings do make a difference.
@barrywebber1004 жыл бұрын
I was surprised at the difference and overall preferred the cedar sound. Thanks for posting you are a skilled guitarist.
@Rory99M4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that brilliant review. I completely agree with your conclusion.
@raulands Жыл бұрын
They both sound great to me. But Sitka seems more expressive, with more clarity. In my opinion, this suits fingerstyle very nice as the melody needs to stand out. Cedar sounds beautiful, too, and the darker wood looks nicer.
@64RRussell6 ай бұрын
Great video, truly displaying the differences.
@eltimbalerdelbruc14144 жыл бұрын
Notionally, it sounds like Spruce is in major key, and Cedar in a minor key?
@mathieumassicotte88812 жыл бұрын
Wow! Great comparison! I own this very same Stonebridge cedar top guitar. Sometimes, I wish I could toggle a switch and turn it into a spruce top guitar. What a presence with strumming!
@martineweb37884 жыл бұрын
thank you! Very educational video! I love it!
@jeffspirdione81354 жыл бұрын
As a novice, that's just learning to play at 57, the cedar seemed to have a warmer sound, as opposed to a more crisp sound with the spruce.