Chiltern Mainline - Part #2 (Train Simulator 2017)

[@theofreeman7770]

I live in Banbury and I have to say it is very accurate. The red vans are the local Royal Mail sorting office and the modeling is spot on.

[@realcodechris]

Funny you say about the bricks. I've lived in England, and London, most of my life but never thought about all those bricks being laid in Liverpool Street and places like that. You made a really good point. That is a lot of brick to lay! Before I moved to London I commuted from Kent and it was around 50-60 minutes, but I always did work. There where 4 types of people I found; the sleepers, the readers, the watchers (like you), and the workers. When I first started working in London I was 19 and I was so exhausted I was sleeping, but once I got used to it I did work, often documentation or teaching myself something (I work in IT as well) and it used to make time fly. Before I knew it, was at Cannon Street or home.

[@eddyharris2372]

I am sorry to make a compaint but I am a bit miffed you went to the map exactly as you got to Aynho Junction, the exact bit I wanted to see. After commenting on mile after mile of trees finally something not trees comes up and you go to the map!

[@RogueAgent711]

Every time I watch one of these Train sim videos, I get Transport Fever nostalgia. Please bring it back Squirrel.

[@ConnerOnGames]

wow a 1hr 15 mins video thank you paul

[@CyclicPilot]

"Hmm, it almost seems like this is just 2 tracks and a load of trees" funnily enough, that's pretty realistic :p These trains use something similar to an automatic transmission in a car (hydraulic torque converter) - basically they do full throttle or coasting, not much else (irl the drivers often go straight to full power) also the "-30%" position is idle, because train sim logic.

[@louissachs9071]

I would have thought that the underground trains towards the end of the video would've been static. Good to see that JT are putting a lot of effort into their scenarios.

[@pixelgaming4415]

The 165 you drove is included with the 2012 assets. The Just Train logo before refers to the free Chiltern Railway reskin they did; it should be a Class 168 anyway :p

[@charlieminecraft1]

"cant see the M40". as he passes under the M40

[@amirdawoodbhai]

1:00:44 , At West Ruislip why go to the bother of modelling in detail the Metropolitan line S8 stock only to place it at a Central line station!

[@The12thdetor]

Amir I completely agree. The sounds aren't correct either. Even for 'basic traction' sounds.

[@thisisstuart7951]

Not west rislip it would been croxley and it's the metropolitan line with S8

[@amirdawoodbhai]

Just look at 1:00:39 , the station sign has two words, furthermore Croxley isn't served by Chiltern Railway services in any form and doesn't feature the complex track layout that West Ruislip does. I know the Metropolitan has S8's thats why it's such a waste to model it then place it in a completely unrealistic location.

[@Mathew25927]

hi squirrel train sim absolutely love it keep up the good work

[@tecyhead]

mathew mosley Same

[@SpeedSetSims]

But he won't use free camera though, Me and my cousin find it really frustrating

[@Mathew25927]

yh ik free camara is required but apart from that all is good

[@bigbadbotnik8125]

Banbury looks spot on. As you were.

[@johnh10000]

S in Burnley there is a railway viaduct, back in the 1990's I think a brick or two fell out, the viaduct not fixed is still supporting trains to this day. As you said, skilled and built propper!

[@inigovanaman1655]

Loved the video and the route. I went and bought it right away

[@dislecsyk991]

The 75 restriction between Leamington and Banbury is because that left bend is actually much sharper than the it's modelled here. And you didn't get an AWS warning because you only ever get those when linespeed is reduced by 33% or more. The whistle boards are for foot crossings

[@DavidWilliams-yo4kb]

dorridge you came up short on the platform. the last carriage at least was short of the platform

[@grahamarthur5585]

Really good video, Squirrel and a really nice looking route. I hope they eventually add the lines to Aylesbury and go all the way down to Oxford (although they are probably waiting for the line up to Bletchley, Bedford and Milton Keynes to be built in real life). The Chiltern route was upgraded from single to double track and in some places they had to split the track to make it fit, which explains those track splits you saw. You saw three different tube lines, the Central between West Ruislip and South Ruislip and the Jubliee and Metropolitan between Neasden and Finchley Road ( the Jubliee stops everywhere and runs in the middle and the Metropolitan runs non stop between Wembley Park and Finchley Road on the outside tracks (that was the train you were following). Also, the four stations on the Monopoly board are Kings Cross, Marylebone, Fenchurch Street and Liverpool Street.

[@MattJames2211]

Loved both vids, nice to virtually revisit the Chiltern line to London

[@semajttam]

Re why the track split at 37m....that's where the old Great Central branched off towards Buckingham and Brackley, closed in the mid sixties. When they redoubled the mainline in 1998 they decided to make the new one straight.

[@Jamesclass37]

Your friend is the best for doing that line!

[@motta9784]

22:50. "Not going to see any thing because the headlights are rubbish." - Squirrel. There not rubbish. JT models the tunnels with no lighting.

[@domramsey]

40:00 Grew up in Haddenham. The station looked pretty accurate to me.

[@RahulPatel-im5nk]

Northolt park looks nothing like my local session but nice to see my local route, and to see further than where I usually go, here is some info I know about the chiltern line, from West Ruislip-South Ruislip you follow the central line, you then branch off passing South Ruislip industrial zone and the dump yard, you then run by your self crossing the Piccadilly line just after Northolt Park, after Wembley stadium you are running parallel to the metropolitan and jubilee lines and then you branch off for a very long tunnel leading to Marylebone, hope this helped!

[@Snipes432]

Great video, just a little detail. These units are not diesel - electric, but diesel-hydraulic. They use the diesel engine to drive the wheels via a hydraulic transmission.

[@alexdunhill9647]

In case you are still wondering the four monopoly stations are Marylebone, Fenchurch Street, Kings Cross and Liverpool Street. Great video though.

[@zarak002]

The Chiltern line goes by the side of Metropolitan and Jubilee lines in suburbs of London up to Finchley Road I think. I have travelled on both underground lines on way to Wembley and seen Chiltern trains go by.

[@DieyoungDiefast]

Squirrel, just after Banbury you were looking for the M40.... I've a sneaky suspicion that the bridge you went under at 19:26 is the M40. Timing and distance from Banbury is about right looking at multimap, and then at 21:49 just after Kings Sutton you went under the M40 again. (1st of the double bridges)

[@RiddleRushers123]

Banbury station is very realistic. it looks just like that! good vid

[@dylc413]

The reason the front of the commuter style trains (CAF IE Models in particular as well as this) have flat fronts is because they come in groups of carriages and cabs, basically, yes, it makes it easier to connect up multiple sets and also makes it much cheaper to build because they don't need to worry about drag coefficient etc... as much as say an IE 22000 (Which also comes in groups of 4, cab at each end and they attach the cabs to each other) This commuter style train would generally never see anything over 70 ish track speed because they're mostly used for suburban rail networks and then the faster more luxurious trains would take a more express-style route more like this.

[@simonkirby2012]

Squirrel, at 6:00 mins that construction is HarburyTunnel where they had a bad landslide couple years ago and the line was closed suddenly for over 6 weeks... that's the after effects!

[@kswindlehurst]

I work in aviation squirrel and yep we use the phonetic alphabet too it's easy to understand when spelling certain things out

[@marty51213]

Hi Squirrel love the video i must get this scenario, bought the Voyager pack yesterday

[@ciaranbird3373]

Paul, thank u for being the ONLY train sim youtuber who can pronounce Bicester correctly xD

[@funkyfender1]

Man Behind The Camera shame about Princes' Riseborough though! Not pronounced rise-borough but RIS-borough!

[@johnoldhouse]

first part of the route is pretty local to me, especially banbury :)

[@crowdaddy6472]

maybe one of those foils you see on trucks to take the air over the load might help with aerodynamics

[@jacobwoods8738]

In regards to the front end shape, at about 12.20, there are streamlined front DMUs, the Class 180s. These are capable of 125, so using them in the Chiltern Line where maximum speeds are between 75-90, is a waste. The reason the 165s are flat is they are old enough that they are developments from the old 1st Generation DMUs, 108s, 117s, 127s, etc.

[@jimmyskite]

Useless fact. The tunnel you go through 57:00 into the video at Gerrards Cross station was built over the railway line so they could build a Tesco store on top. Construction was delayed as it collapsed onto the track. Luckily the drive was stopped at the station and saw bits falling down in the tunnel and no one was hurt.

[@rogercrick9813]

The station at Bicester Village which you said was missing is not on the mainline. It is on the branch to Oxford that leaves the main line south of Bicester North Station. There is a recent video from tstar2001UK, a Chiltern Driver, that is a cab ride of this same journey with commentary which would answer most of the questions that you raised in your video. The train is a 100mph class 168 which is what Chiltern normally use for London to Birmingham services.

[@lotsofstuff101]

Great video! please do more videos on this line.

[@coolbro7695]

Hi squirrel do you know when your gonna do more Csx heavy haul?

[@gamingwithbrendan6251]

Clate Crocker ii

[@gkatz007]

woah a comment not asking for my summer car. how refreshing ! i do agree though would be nice to see more of cxs although wasnt sure if it was issue with optimization?

[@Vanilla_Donut]

Most likely when more content comes out.

[@stockportcountyfc7272]

true

[@agungputranto6420]

Clate Crocker i

[@Arrivatrainswalesfan]

The route and train looked good. I felt that Just Trains let it down by re using one of Dovetails oldest models ( The class 166) which they used for the 169. This is clearly obvious with the first interior. Apart from that It was great!

[@maritimefilminguk]

Been waiting for part two!

[@AnkushTheHero]

Hi-Tech Reviews this is part 2

[@simonkirby2012]

17:16 referring to the poster. Yes off-peak advance fares for £6.00 each way (start from). Chiltern not much longer than BHM-EUS on Virgin and little less than LM via Northampton

[@Leock]

Bandury station is spot on !

[@darrelmukandhla6548]

So many perfect opportunities for a screenshot along side the LU train. So fustrating watching you not take one ahhh!

[@Bluerazor52]

The reason there is an "X" over some stops is because you were late and it did not count them.

[@bryanknights8662]

I think it was because the train was not completely i the station when it stopped. Therefore it counted it as a miss.

[@nfc2941]

No it's not

[@DeathMagnetic666Kirk]

Paul, you need to understand that the class 166 is a very old train model. JT always doest that. They take a oldmodel, they apply a livery and you think is't s brand new model, but it's not. That's why you miss so many features, like the cab light and the speed control and so on. If you tried the class 68 from steam, you'll see how different that is. And overally, the quality of JT routes is not the best either. Compare this route with another one ending in London, like the East Coast Mainline, the Chatam Mainline and so on and you will understand what I mean. That said, nice video as always.

[@bulwinkle]

A train driver has to learn a route enough that he knows exactly where he is, day or night and in all weather conditions, to the satisfaction of an examiner. They must also read and sign any notes about changes or restrictions on the route each day before he takes out a train.

[@ericpenny5257]

Would love to see more Train Simulator 2017!

[@Thomashorsman]

Car park at Bicester north only has 2 storeys not 3

[@jackyp5994]

Love the train vids

[@icklebean0365]

Do the alysbury to princes risbourgh

[@gamingwithcatboykie4906]

Icklebean03 that's isn't included :(

[@shaymaclennan3341]

Yet again another top notch video

[@simonscriven5043]

Keep up the good work ..love all your content

[@JazzarGK]

4 monopoly stations are Kings Cross, Liverpool Street, Fenchurch and Marlebone

[@lazis002]

Squirrel, have you heard of or seen any of the driver's eye view series from video 125. Its basicly what you described with the cameras in the cab and they add a narrator over the top to explain the line and stations.

[@cameronstrainsadventures]

I live near bicester and from Banbury down to London Marylebone look practically the same as I travel on the children mainline to get to London and my grandparents live in Banbury and when I was younger I used to watch the trains at Banbury but they are all very similar

[@sebastianjansson]

Fellow train driver here. It isn't actually that hard to keep concentration. I for example usually listens to music and just watch out the window. And when you accelerate and decelerate you are automatically in concentration mode, so as I said, it isn't very hard.

[@Stringbean421]

That sounds illegal to me, listening to music whilst driving. You're supposed to be listening outs for those AWS warnings. If you weren't concentrating and the automatic break triggered in and brought you to a complete stop then I think you would surely be fired if it was found you were listening to music with your earbuds in.

[@xeqhon]

What about the Bicester village branch?

[@jamesdigby6072]

Love TS

[@grahamwatson867]

Bicester Village is the station on the line that joined on to your line just after Bicester north. (I live in Bicester)

[@shof515]

you got the X because you did not pull into the station far enough, you open the doors when the last car or two was not at the station platform.

[@paulbarnfather2535]

if you search KZbin for fast trains UK 4 there is a section on Chiltern and it will show the loco based trains that you don't have on the scenario. P.s. I'm not a train nerd, i used to have an autistic boy to look after at school and he loved to watch that video while waiting for his transport home

[@aakao2593]

Great stuff. I'd love to visit the UK and ride the rails. We really don't get stuff like this in the US.

[@jacobwoods8738]

Squirrel, I'd love to see you run the JustTrains Oliver Cromwell 7MT scenario or the prototypical SSS 4965 'Rood Ashton Hall' scenario.

[@NESVFD]

When the next train simulator industrial scenario

[@14Rudderz14]

Looks exactly like the Banbury station 10/10

[@supa_hot_ice5449]

When BREL made the class 166 they focused on making it an easier train to maneuver, they did not think about aerodynamics.

[@andyhello23]

I used to call wembley stadium, a shopping basket, ie the new one you see here. It looks exactly like a shopping basket with that handle. I find it funny you said wow, at neasden(just passed wembley stadium here). What a horrible place that is in london.

[@The12thdetor]

Do the LUL Class 20 transfers.

[@RazordraacGaming]

One day I really hope somebody makes a London-Birminham WCML route. Like seriously where the hell has it been? It's one of the busiest routes in the UK period.

[@Arrivatrainswalesfan]

The reason the sim didn't tick off two of the station arrivals as done is because of the lateness. it is a shame this feature cannot be disabled so that as long as you arrive and allow boarding you pass

[@stewarthills9344]

The Tube being there is great, but the errors still pain me haha

[@twocvbloke]

Given that train is two coupled up DMUs, the acceleration shouldn't be that slow, unless the rear DMU is not enabled for some reason, in which case you're basically towing dead weight (which is fun on a Class 142 in reality, having been on such a train when one broke down at Colne station!! It's rare to enjoy a "silent" diesel train)...

[@Dan-pv7cu]

BEEEE CONS FIELD AHAHHAHAHHA It's pronounced Beck ons field ahaha

[@burryshift6800]

Love the vid Squireel, Please can you do a ETS2 or ATS trucking diaries with wheel cam!

[@chrisstevenson2928]

very good one squirrel

[@hamishashcroftplaysminecra6262]

If you didn't know the UK and you just watched this video, you would think that the area between Birmingham and London is quite sparsely populated. You'd be very wrong lol

[@seraphina985]

The Chiltern Main Line is actually a fairly unpopulated route for that part of England, if you compare the population along it to the West Coast Main Line which is running only 15-20 miles away you would think you were in completely different parts of the country. Believe it or not Milton Keynes alone actually has more people than Warwick, Leamington Spa, Banbury and Bicester combined and that is completely without considering Hemel Hempsted, Leighton Buzard, Rugby and Coventry that are all also along the section of the West Coast Main Line in between the West Midlands Urban Area and the London Urban Area.

[@UK_Railways319]

at 50 28 mins that station is called high wycombe

[@cameronsmodels7680]

Also just after you left BICESTER the line that came up and joined on is from BICESTER village

[@tomhenderson7876]

Great video! Can you do the London Midland class 170 scenario please?

[@cyberdonblue4413]

I'm a retired train driver who worked over that route, amongst others, many times over the years with BR, more so into Paddington but occasionally into Marylebone with special trains - especially trains for the old Wembley on Cup Final days - long before privatisation. At 37.49 you queried the track layout. It is the remains of the junction for the old Great Central Railway and was laid out along the same lines as Aynho Junction, which you sadly missed because you decided to look at the map instead. Furthermore, drivers DO NOT put cab lights on in tunnels - that's one reason why you have instrument lights - and the view in tunnels is only slightly better than your cheap and nasty game showed even with a headlight. Headlights are an American idea that some idiot over here decided we should copy and they serve absolutely no useful purpose to a train driver. As a general rule, if it's in the way - day or night - and you can SEE IT, IT'S TOO DAMN LATE COS YOU'RE GONNA HIT IT!!! The Underground at West Ruislip (Central Line) is not the same LU line that you come alongside at Neasden. There are actually two LU lines at Neasden. The Jubilee Line and the Metropolitan. Both run alongside the original Great Central Railway from Harrow on the Hill (though the Met runs alongside all the way to Rickmansworth where it then shares the track as far as Amersham.) Chiltern operate the "main line" services over the old Great Central between Aylesbury and Marylebone. The line you "drove" over joins up with that lot at Neasden - oh and Marylebone is pronounced Marry le bone not Marlie bone. Finally, I can fully understand your friend saying that he doesn't enjoy driving trains now. You could train a monkey to drive this modern plastic crap. It's all electronics and it's just like playing with a toy train. There is no skill in it anymore - AWS warning boards everywhere, TPWS (Train Protection Warning System) to take control and put the brakes on when it thinks you've nodded off and speed advisory boards big enough to see from a passing plane. Nowadays, to be a driver, you just need to have your brain removed and volunteer to pick up an extortionate wage packet. Cheers...

[@johnh10000]

S did you know the guy who designed the Bullet Train was into bird spotting, and he designed it based on a birds beak!

[@flightsimulatorblaine8727]

I like to see my local train station .

[@ejr9874]

Squirrel please can you make OMSI 2 videos please, great videos keep it up!!

[@bulwinkle]

If you're going to get this route and you don't have all the recommended dlc it's going to cost the thick end of £140.

[@MatthewPlato91]

37:30 tracks split because there used to be a flying junction there.

[@jchong_yc]

I don't really understand why people are begging for more MSC in every video. It's a really buggy game and I don't see it as a game actually fit's Squirrel's channel. Guys just don't act like spoiled kid, Squirrel don't have to hear your calls.

[@ciaranbird3373]

because we live in a messed up world where people don't appreciate the long hours of rendering and the word patience must give them a heart attack

[@thestockporttucksandtrains8620]

Hi squrial nuts I am a huge fan of your videos!! I watch your videos everyday. When are you making a new video? Please let me know. Thank you 😍

[@ciaranbird3373]

1) subscribe and turn in notifications 2) sit and breathe 3) close ur eyes and count to ten 4) do something to pass the time

[@GamingRacerHD]

Nice =)

[@Jake-yy2ns]

Squirrel I'm missing my summer car like mad 😂

[@amirdawoodbhai]

At 40:49 were you talking about the West Anglia Main Line?

[@ByrdisDaWord888]

hey squirrel did you notice again that tran sim screwed you again at banbury. they gave you another X again -_-

[@callummclachlan4771]

You no buy DLC? You no succeed route.

[@jamesosborn3977]

More flight sim

[@jhoansebastianmarmolejo6538]

Squirrel , can you do more OMSI videos please , they are fantastic

[@ciaranbird3373]

i can imagine that once the London add-on comes out, there will be lots more OMSI videos

[@erikpiussi2960]

will you do a train sim world video soon?

[@unwindandrelaxyourmentalhealth]

Live in the Chiltern mainline route

[@thesouthwesttrainsguy277]

i was at banbury today and it looks almost identical to that

[@onesixgg]

Question about Train Sims, Since I've never played a Train Sim before, what would you guys recommend? I like a good career mode and scenarios.

[@JochemvanKranenburg]

onesixgg Train simulator 2017. It has a nice free carreer mode but to really expand your collection you do need some money... but thats with all sims. If you check out my FSX video in the description i said it costs me 130$ for these graphics...

[@cmdrflint9115]

Have you ever considered using any of the graphics mods (like reshade) with train sim? They can really go a long way to address some of the shortcomings of the game engine.. adding in lightshafts/godrays, lens flare, motion blur, hdr, colour correction, better antialiasing etc... Not quite up to the standard of the new unreal engine game, but definitely better.