Datamined Cutscene Shows A VERY Different Homeworld 3 BEFORE It Was Ruined

[@CoolSs]

i knew it. i knew it was sabotage because their previous game Deserts of Kharak, was masterfully done. nothing can top the first but still it was clearly made with passion and understanding. not this trash

[@Krysnha]

Yes, i mean watch the first cutscenes and you realize these is not homeworld

[@CoolSs]

@@Krysnha Good thing i removed it from my wishlist when they added Denuvo. I tell you, Denuvo is always a bad omen. But looking at the steam reviews and the player peak. It seem not even the game worth pirating

[@Krysnha]

@@CoolSs Honeslty as how games are lately, very few are worth pirating, if i have a pc, well i am from latin america, and gaming is becoming more and more mobile if oyu watch charts and grafics, but for me the games i would pirate if i have a pc, would be battlestar galactica deadlock, motorpost manager, airship conquer the sky, those would be the ones i want the most, and also gaming peacking, every game i see now, even the claimed helldivers 2, have less and less lifespam, and these is what the industry want money now, who cares future profit, is the mentality that is consuming everithing now

[@marcogenovesi8570]

@@CoolSs Yeah it's not worth pirating. I have seen the Arch stream of this game, it's less than 7 hours of campaign gameplay. It's less complex gameplay than a mobile game, the maps are tiny and cramped (nothing says space like a small map full of large space stations), the AI is complete trash, the only enemy tactic is zerg rushing. The cutscenes are obnoxious and the main female character has a chin that can cut diamonds.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

@@Krysnha Ah yes if you stray from the "game-approved play area/path" random enemy forces hyperspace in and pummel you into submission.

[@davidlandrum]

20 years up in flames. Never forget what they took from us.

[@Amraphel]

Hiigara is burning.... again.

[@lonelystrategos]

@@Amraphel None of this would have happened if they had listened to Kiith Gaalsien. Granted, the Kushan would all have died on Kharak, but still.

[@Kyle7565]

The game wasn’t in development for 20 years. You got remastered in 2015 and dok in 2016. That’s 8 years waiting, still sucks.

[@cortholiopezorama8879]

Except that the remaster broke formations because they ported HW1 into HW2.

[@DeepInsideZettaiRyouiki]

Nothing is sacred ...for the wicked.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

Arch is now literally hilter for Homeworld 3 developers too

[@ReddwarfIV]

Hilter? Wasn't he the MP for Minehead?

[@marcogenovesi8570]

@@ReddwarfIV no I'm just misspelling the name of an austrian painter that went into politics

[@ReddwarfIV]

@@marcogenovesi8570 Ah well. FYI there's a Monty Python skit about it.

[@mrblackjacker32.03]

Can imagine if there's a fourth instance of Homeworld where Arch ends being the BBEG but dying on a humorously pathetic way

[@rps215]

Hola, Señor Hilter

[@ls93780]

Homeworld 1: a paranoid Palpatine-esque Emperor, Cataclysm: an extragalactic hyperspace virus who wants to omn nom the galaxy, Homeworld 2: a messianic crazy person with a hyperspace core and an ego the size of Sagittarius A. Not exactly a series known for having morally ambiguous main villains.

[@Kyle7565]

And to be fair, Hyperspace psychic attacks go back to the Taiidan emperor in the start of the last mission, when he knocks Karen unconscious.

[@oditeomnes]

Deserts of Kharak: Kharak native ISIS.

[@snipsthefox9224]

Kharak native ISIS with hyper-advanced technology and more manpower than the entire Coalition. The Gaalsian were so prevalent that I was expecting THEM to make a reappearance post-Kharak.

[@FaramaraFae]

@@snipsthefox9224 If you look at the enemy craft designs they take significant inspiration from the Gaalsien.

[@Kyle7565]

I have always wanted to know what happened to the billions of Taiidan who were living on Hiigara as the capital world of the Empire when the Kushan took it over. How does a population of only about 50000 make their culture dominant over that many people? Were they removed by the Bentusi and galactic council? Unfortunate implications that have never been addressed.

[@jamiearmstrong3487]

The original details and promotional content talked about the Progenitors and Sajuuk. That it followed along from 2. but look at the betrayal.

[@TheLeadElite]

Not surprising considering how long it was in development. It’s Aliens Colonial Marines all over again, but this time the disaster has a coat of rainbow paint.

[@aj.j5833]

Don't forget Duke Nukem Forever as well.

[@Kyle7565]

Wasn’t only in dev from the fig campaign in 2019? That’s 5 years. When gearbox outsourced Colonial Marines and Duke Nukem Forever, those games were in dev hell for near a decade.

[@WllKiedSnake]

​@@aj.j5833Duke Nukem Forever is a masterpiece in comparison to a woke game.

[@Ozzystrayroo]

Gearbox has the magical touch of ruining anything they touched upon

[@aj.j5833]

@@Ozzystrayroo Even Borderland.

[@AVeryAngryIronWarrior]

Chalk another one up to arch being right again boys

[@crazyrabitbob5891]

Can't my wall is to small

[@marcogenovesi8570]

@@crazyrabitbob5891 build a bigger wall, and make the left pay for it

[@jeppgogi3170]

im chalkin

[@vladimirvojtaml]

So fucking typical... The game gets rewritten last second and turns out shit. Imagine my shock.

[@Gunboy122]

I wonder if Hardspace: Shipbreaker had this same thing happen to it throughout its Early Access period when they were making the "story"? Would explain why the Business Is Booming update was the last major one for a very long time until they shoved Shipbreaker out of Early Access.

[@RafaelCabreraAzrael]

as a thirdworlder, i really wonder WHY do companies in the 1st world get rekt by the woke mob?

[@Quicks1lvr]

They let them into the Garden, and now it's burning.

[@felipeignacioavilapizarro3698]

"If you have come to consume the garden... you will be removed..." full circle now

[@adrixshadow]

Homeworld 3 The Last Jedi treatment.

[@Aliksander54]

I thought Homeworld was too niche a franchise to be targeted by this... I'm so sad to see how mistaken I was.

[@guillermoelnino]

No vector for tourism is too small

[@reggie6230]

Welcome to collectivism. All must be part of the state, no exceptions.

[@isimiel3405]

nothings safe from these scumbags

[@aj.j5833]

Homeworld got to much normie interest like FreeSpace did.

[@Ozzystrayroo]

it got manhandled by gearbox. that is their fatal mistake

[@Volper1]

20 bucks says that this radical redesign which obviously happened in the late stages of the game is what made it take so long to finish. I wonder how many millions of dollars was wasted just because one pink haired lesbian said it wasn't queer enough.

[@reggie6230]

Enough to burn an entire franchise down faster than a planet did in the first game. It's astounding, they just lost an entire iconic IP of space games so permanently its slag now.

@@reggie6230 Oh god that means they will seek out new prey! Please God, don't let them take Descent Freespace next.

[@myvideosetc.8271]

It was never about money, is about destroying all that you liked once.

[@Athetos_Admech]

​@@myvideosetc.8271you're right, it's not about the properties they pretend to care about. They really just hate us for not joining their cult and want to hurt us in any way they can.

[@VisiblyPinkUnicorn]

@@reggie6230 "No one's left... everything's gone... the franchise is burning."

[@reggie6230]

All I can think is that iconic moment in 1, you just come back and Kharak is burning.

[@zimriel]

Dude.

[@Sorain1]

For Cataclysm it's either 'Cut us loose!' or 'Your worse than the beast, at least the beast doesn't claim to be righteous!'

[@ReaVen443]

@@Sorain1 The best f*cking captain in the series, f*ck S'jet and her lineage, that dude made the Bentusi listen and his ship evolves from a mining rig (think Ishimura) into a proper warship, also the horror of space personified as the Beast in cojurence with the Taidani Remnants giving the Universe the middlefinger by reparing the god damn Nagarok is a far more compelling villain than what ever the heck the Icarnate (b*+ch) Queen is. Media outlets are currently in damage control mode again so, I rest my case with this OG Homeworld and Ctaclysm/ Emergence are my favorite games from a narative point, as well as gameplay, call me old fashioned. I dont care.

[@Ozzystrayroo]

Fans who were returning to Homeworld franchise and said "Homeworld.....is burning" while Adagio for strings played in the backgroun

[@jerk1921]

EXACTLY!! We turned our heads away for a second and the DEI empire showed up to scorch this planet. Now its just us, few survivors (normal people) drifting through space looking for a new place to be welcome.

[@wintersking4290]

Arch, methinks you're entitled to a Razorfist-style, chair spinning "fuck you, I was right!" If you want it.

[@TitusAndromadon]

I couldn't think of many things that would make me happier than arch doing that

[@boobah5643]

@@TitusAndromadon With Arch's accent and careful enunciation? Yeah, that'd be kinda nifty.

[@MnemonicHack]

Something that strikes me is how much you see the women's faces. How often there's this silent, "meaningful" gaze between them. Or how expressive and cocky the villain queen is. Comically evil. I've only played one Homeworld game, Deserts of Kharak, and Rachel was never like that. She was serious, professional, relied on her people and her superiors, and was a character with actual depth instead of relying on too many words and too many quiet "emotional" moments.

[@Razgriz_01]

The incarnate queen looks like Donkey from Shrek whenever she makes a smirk or smug face. It's fuckin goofy.

[@tereninsecundus6084]

Play the original 3. Master-classes by most metrics (Homeworld 2 was a tad weaker due to some choices made in mechanics and story-narrative) and very much worth the money invested.

[@1987CRER]

The Queen was basically a villain out of a mediocre shoujo anime, we're supposed to believe that she commands fleets of starships manned by religious fanatics when she has all the gravitas of a high school mean girl.

[@Stef3m]

Buy the remaster of the first two, they include both the original plus the graphically upgraded ones. You have to try them

[@MagralhoPT]

Homeworld 3... There was never a homeworld 3... the same way there was never a command and conquer 4....

[@HenshinFanatic]

Or an Indiana Jones film after "The Last Crusade".

[@mads12344]

the same whit dawn of war 3 it never happend it was a Disaster aswell.... the era of the good games are over .... we can only look back now

[@Brandelwyn]

At least in dow 3 taldeer was reunited with her brother ​@@mads12344

[@HarakiriHakebeil]

@@mads12344 At least i would say that to the so called AAA titles. I guess below the radar there is still enought stuff to find. And i bet you have some backlog. Also there are enough endless and sanbox games out there to have fun in. Its sick but its not dead yet.

[@Turanic1]

best approach, same as with Star Wars sequels, they happened in alternate universe, I am never gonna watch these again

[@diego2817]

Guys your are forgetting something: BBI is Canadian All fo the DEIs included sweet baby are Canadians CEO of BBI wife had a DEI company as well

[@zimriel]

The missing-link here is that Canadian government is a dictatorship which gives money for DEI, and arrests people for opposing the regime

[@B-26354]

The Canadian government partially fund them.

[@ОлегЮрченко-ы6ч]

So you want to say that this game was dead even before release

[@diego2817]

@@ОлегЮрченко-ы6ч yes and no, no one's knew anything about the DEi until game was released

[@ОлегЮрченко-ы6ч]

@@diego2817 still, this is a very sad situation. They just had no way but to add shitty propaganda (

[@TornadoADV]

Literally redesigned an actual Homeworld game for a god awful DEI plot with "muh diversity" and "muh girlboss powah". BBI didn't deserve this.

[@jimgiraffe5253]

funny how the soundtrack is samuel barber -adagio / agnus dei - very fitting for a DEI filled game

[@TornadoADV]

@@jimgiraffe5253 Haha, so true.

[@MarktheRude]

Oh but BBI does deserve this. They made a mess of the re-releases. And DOK, which wasn't as bad.

[@Kyle7565]

BBI didn’t make the remaster, gearbox did, BBI just provided old relic art and source code. Also, DOK being well liked is part of the reason fig campaign started with good morale.

[@chrisdawe5976]

You're aware that S'jets have been the boss since the first game right? Cata was the only game with out a female lead......it's like you've never actually played a homeworld game

[@culteducube4108]

I would not be surprised if the dev team left those traces on purpose, knowing that they would eventually be found, as a silent act of protest.

[@Blueoriontiger]

Honestly as bad as the company treated me when applying, I'll believe you on this. Before their re-do/expansion, I always looked up to BBI as a company.

[@putty-e2872]

@@Blueoriontiger It might be a protest by a lone developer, as other aspects of the game, like the engine physics and gameplay mechanics, were also subpar and not up to the standards of previous Homeworld.

[@nickpheonixify]

Arch, there is a third option for Blackbird interactive and that is the parent company told them they had complete control only to renege and saddle them with an overlord part way into production. It wouldn't be the first time a company has acquiesced to DIE and changed its internal structure to suit. I'm not saying it's a get-out-of-jail free pass but it is a possibility that shifts some of the responsibility up the chain.

[@Kyle7565]

We were told during the Fig campaign, that there would be no outside influence. I think that’s why they are deleting the records, they took in over a million dollars, should be a class action.

[@trajanfidelis]

Oh that makes burning down the game and fanbase totally okay than 🙃

[@nickpheonixify]

@@trajanfidelis yes. we waited over a decade and paid money for a "homeworld" game. the story is still shit and blame should be directed as such. If a dog craps on the carpet it should be punished the only difference is in my assumption some of the blame should be directed at the dog's owner for not taking it outside.

[@zimriel]

@@trajanfidelis In their eyes? Absolutely. Blackbird already were pozzed. Look at Shipbreakers. There was nobody there who had any ethical qualms about what was going on; by the time Gearbox started meddling, they just wanted to get paid and put something out there.

[@Sujad]

I posted your video there and got banned for BS reasons from elsewhere in the thread.

[@Sujad]

Also, after BBI added in that crap union storyline, I would be inclined to think that BBI are long tainted.

[@damianprzebieraa330]

I got banned too

[@jimgiraffe5253]

@@damianprzebieraa330 banned me too

[@Kyle7565]

The lead writer on Hardspace is a commie unfortunately, but with Martin Cirulis writing HW3, I expected better

[@paulrasmussen8953]

Yeah the ban hammer is out on their forum

[@Sorrowborn]

Homeworld 1 was the first ever video game I bought with money from my first ever job, it was also the first space game I ever purchased. A lot of firsts, but she had a THIRST FOR RUIN, and sucked the life out of the most beloved of Ip's for me. I often tell people they have no idea just how POWERFUL a story telling the first games had, and honestly...I started writing because of this game. So seeing it slaughtered so effortlessly by a talentless hack...is just a true tragedy.

[@zzygyy]

1999 was an amazing year. Cinema and Homeworld. 👍

[@jecsquire9508]

Agreed, played the first one aged 10 or 11 i think: it blew my tiny child mind. Amazing game, and it didnt deserve this - there's nothing left. Everything's gone. Homeworld is burning :(

[@elieazagoury]

I mentioned your video, I was permabanned for doing so. This is the message from mods: You have been permanently banned from the Homeworld 3 Hub. You were banned by a Homeworld 3 developer. Reason: "This post contains or supports content created with the intention of inciting harassment of specific persons related to the Developer or Publisher. Type of content is not allowed on this Steam Community."

[@paulrasmussen8953]

Got the same thingnforncalling someone a shill and that the game failed in its goal.

[@avatarwarmech]

Y'all got a message lmao I got nothing I got sit sent straight to the shadow realm

[@Coconut-219]

Imagine mods behaving like this and then wondering why they get vigilante'd.

[@zimriel]

@@Coconut-219 They're not getting vigilante'd by me, I'm simply not buying their game. The "Homeworld 3" experience for me is laughing at them in threads like this one

[@elieazagoury]

​@@paulrasmussen8953 I think the insight from this is that when they use the word harassment they mean criticism.

[@AscendantStoic]

The woke virus claims yet another victim 😢

[@ReformedSooner24]

Remember these victims when the day comes where the right achieves a major political, cultural, paradigm-shifting victory in the West. Remember this and all those who have died because of wokeness when the day comes when the woke loose everything, and are forced to watch everything they corrupted and “built” burn down around them as the right rides into ascendancy and their precious arc of history is shattered. The day is coming.

[@bunnyfist4697]

Where is the Kun-Lan when you need its siege cannon?

[@NeinBreaker]

It's giving The Beast a run for its money.

[@creatorsfreedom6734]

soo is it ok if i set this one on fire as well , as i have alot of book's to burn

[@selwrynn6702]

I still wish that Homeworld could move past the S'Jet's Karen specifically, but that bloodline generally. Still even that would be better than what HW3 was.

[@baraka629]

it's Karan, not Karen mate. she doesn't want to talk to Makaan's manager, nor a 1000 RU discount coupon on a battlecruiser.

[@FRrule]

Totally agree, follow the other Kiith, like they did with Cataclysm

[@xendakakorva3267]

The S'Jets are not a bloodline, but a clan of scientists, but yeah we need more perspectives from the other Kiiths just like with Kiith Somtaaw from Cataclysm

[@Motleydoll123]

That could work. And if they ABSOLUTELY must acknowledge the incarnate, they could have them splintering into a variety of smaller factions, assimilated or destroyed by the preexisting factions of the homeworld universe. Hell... maybe in a suprise twist, we could have the taidan serving as the protagonists of that campaign, initially crippling the dregs of the incarnate before discovering a precursors technology that they then attempt to utilise to either rebuild their power, claim revenge, or carve a niche for themselves in this new hiigaaran dominated galaxy. Lots of stories that could be told. You just need to work to tell the right kind of stories that are authentic homeworld stories. Lets have more Homeworld stories in Homeworld.

[@roneon4]

So another DEI in the detection list ?

[@davidlandrum]

Yes, Homeworld 3 is on it.

[@roneon4]

@@davidlandrum good !

[@MagralhoPT]

​@@roneon4 not good.... they massacred my boy.... i was waiting for this for ages... 🙄 fair to be in the list... but I wish it was not affected...

[@roneon4]

@@MagralhoPT same here already remove from my wishlist :(

[@DinosaurEmperor84]

I haven't played homeworld 3 so I cant say anything about that. But I played the other homeworld games and watched the trailer. And the first thing that stood out to me was how whiny the new fleet controller was. Maybe I remember things wrong but I recall the first S'jet to be larger than life in how she was straight to the point and rational like a computer. I don't remember her monologuing about her emotional trauma.

[@Some_Really_Random_Dude.]

Maybe throw in an ancient, eldritch, bio-mechanical horror in the expansion, for old time's sake.

[@TheMaleRei]

It's the Brethren Moons!!! Runnnn!!!

[@zimriel]

Looks like they did, and she rewrote the game's script.

[@kaiamir12]

codenamed, The Beast

[@cmedtheuniverseofcmed8775]

I recommend that the developers and others save all the original cutscenes, all the concept art, and the original story notes (before the interference turned it into the slop that it was). A concerted effort can overhaul this game and make it what it should have been. There's enough of a fanbase to establish a Kickstarter or other crowdfunding campaign to save and improve HW3.

[@60sSam]

Better plan, file a class action against BBI & Gearbox for false advertising and taking money under false pretenses or making false claims. If BBI has that stuff they can bring that in and say "this is what we were going to do, we were told to make this instead!" that gets them off the hook and places all the blame on Gearbox. Don't give them more money just so they can foul it up all over again.

[@fonesrphunny7242]

So, basically we should buy a DLC with the original story. Not just pay for it, but fund its development up front. How about no?

[@AShockToTheSystem]

The worst part is that, aside for the pink hair and glasses, the main character of Homeworld 3 has a striking resemblance to this woman... So it looks like not only she altered the story, she also inserted herself into it.

[@felipeignacioavilapizarro3698]

PhD in writing indeed, only a wokie with a PhD is so narcissistic as to defecate over 3 years of work just to make a self-insert

[@vinculaomega5283]

They always do. They're incapable of doing otherwise. The story must be about "literally them", else they can't understand it. That's why they drone on about "representation" so much. Once you understand this, so much else makes sense.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

shocking, just like all games with Kim Belair aka SBI consultants have a black female that resembles her

[@mrblackjacker32.03]

Classic from those individuals

[@TheKianykin]

Its always a neon hair colored woman, always

[@AKUJIVALDO]

That's how you know who is poison...

[@zimriel]

Mades one ponder if the Hindus had a point about sati. Women without men beyond a certain age don't seem to be a benefit for men, nor really for married women and their children.

[@zeehero7280]

indeed. they are ruining neon hair for people! making it associated with such evil cringe!

[@arkgaharandan5881]

and they are always jewish.

[@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus]

@@zeehero7280 bro it’s been ruined for years now it’s a massive red flag

[@raghardeishi972]

We need to make law that "copyright expiration law" whould apply on PC and console game after 5 years. When they would have to compete with free games from last decade, they would spend better effort to make decent game.

[@humanbeans4498]

We should get rid of copyright

[@michaelkeha]

​@@humanbeans4498 That is a pandora's box you really really don't fucking want to open

[@ShadowRulah]

​@@michaelkehaNah get rid of it. That way if you want to be canon you need to be the best and if you suddenly stop supporting something it isn't cast into the shadow realm.

[@michaelkeha]

@@ShadowRulah No the people with the most money to bully everyone else out of the market will win you really don't know what you are asking for mate

[@uuddlrlrbas9904]

Whoever "left" that in the files is a hero

[@TheManofthecross]

untill they purge it. :(

[@richardkenney9636]

"They have full creative control" until they didn't.

[@BlueLightning12]

So basically Blackbird/Gearbox and Joyce ripped off the story of Gundam Seed Destiny and just put their own kind of twist on it. "Who needs free will when one person can determine everything you'll ever do before you're even born."

[@marcogenovesi8570]

this is the final goal of communism

[@greenhat8978]

#archwasright

[@mrblackjacker32.03]

It reminds me of how the award-winning writer of Naughty World almost had it all done before Sarkeesian crashed into the studios and we all know what happened for TLoU2

[@OxyShmoxy]

Tbh you don't need a smoking gun to tell that the new homeworld is just someone wearing a skin of our beloved game to bait and switch.

[@MrGnugfur]

my main issue with HW3 is that its gone from grand tactical game to numbers game. The one who spams the most units win.

[@redknight6077]

From my experience it does no matter how many times we are proven right: we will forever be ridiculed, mocked and accused of being conspirators. People get what they deserve, this game is what they deserve.

[@Coconut-219]

Contrary to what the Star Wars sequels would tell you, 'the dead don't speak' -or... I suppose in this case "mock and ridicule"

[@StykeWarden]

Homeworld didn't deserve this, considering the game is probably older than you are

[@drustnowon]

The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution.

[@individual7046]

I never got the idea of last minute reorganizing of these projects. Like the company puts all this time and effort into a project only for a stranger to knock it all down. You figured there would be a case of Sunk Cost fallacy with the creators watching all their hard work get scrapped.

[@gurninator]

Evil cannot create, it only corrupts

[@SrObser]

"Why did you force me to do this? I just wanted to play videogames"

[@NikovK]

For those of us who want our multiplayer space game fix, I recommend Nebulous Fleet Command. Its Homeworld style controls with full ship customization and a fantastic electronic warfare suite.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

#ReleaseHomeworld3DirectorCut

[@gbladewarrior6884]

Homeworld 3. Bigger, longer and uncut.

[@TheManofthecross]

if it ever comes to that point at all. they will just destroy it to deny us that.

[@jeezed2950]

The story of this game was planned out even back in homeworld 1. The planet killers we know and love, which showed similarities to bentusi technology, were actually a race called TMAT (yes Tiamat which is what the queen in the game is named after) and the devs said the they were the true great evil of the universe. Makes sense, in case you dont know, tiamat is the primordial serpent of chaos and evil itself. The chaose dragon is present in most mythologies includong the bible as the leviathan which is the old serpent mentioned in revelation. This game theoretically shpuld have taken place almost 1000 years after hw2, with the TMAT drawing all the enemies of Hiigara to attack and destroy the kushan once and for all. I also am pretty sure that imogen was not even a character during earlier development. The first/second trailer was obviously Karan S"jet talking, and just had finally grown long hair out. This was going to be the epic conclusion where evil incarnate is destroyed. I also think the sajuuk ship once again would have had Karan at the core. But instead of a story that fulfills all the religious themea and paralells that has been built up over the games, it was ruined at the finish line by woke decision makers.

[@riesstiu2khunning]

And the "true great evil of the universe" was a lonely woman to begin with? Nah. They've just paraphrased T-MAT's name for her highness, security blanket mega hitler. The fact they went with it, suggests the devs themselves didn't expect to continue working on the saga after this game releases. Otherwise, they'd keep it for a better adversary.

[@vmonk722]

Where's the WARSHIP Kuun-Laan when it's needed the most? Granted, it was miners again who discovered The Beast. Maybe they will grow to vanquish the threat as their forefathers did.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

where the heck is Sajuuk and the dreadnought ship thingy

[@DarkVeghetta]

As I imagined, the last Homeworld game was and is Deserts of Kharak. Sad, but true.

[@andrewgrinn3435]

The oracle spoke and was proven right.

[@Booma4142]

The commissar, the collaborator, and the cooperative are all equally guilty.

[@FilipRanogajec]

I never thought it would happen to Homeworld, but I guess it did...

[@shamandgg]

Guys, just play Nebulous. It's labour of love game.

[@isimiel3405]

i don't want to need a degree to play a game

[@raghardeishi972]

1. it's early access. 2. it has some stuff wrong about fleet combat. 3. it has some engineering errors in ship design. 4. it's not freeware. 5. I'd rather have two decent games than one.

[@Kyle7565]

Also you should consider following the development of Falling Frontier, Ephemeris and Era One

[@Megarith1to3]

@@raghardeishi972 >It's not freeware Bro, that is an indie dev studio. Do you expect them to live off of sunshine, and power their PCs with urine?

[@zimriel]

@@Megarith1to3 Although your point is taken, "early access" is bait-n'-switch anymore. Shipbreakers was a good game in EA and then became Marxist propo when fully published. Kerbal II was an unfinished mess in EA and it looks like Take Two are just Take Yo' Cash, because they fired all the devs (so won't finish the game).

[@silent0089]

sadly that pink haired girl got what he wanted and dont care

[@Aikurisu]

... et tu, Homeworld? Gah, no franchise is safe nowadays from these freaks.

[@TheManofthecross]

untill said franchise is politically to the right that it opposes the left of all nature unconditionally at all levels that they will never touch it. same with the fan base. otherwise all franchises will fall to the gostnic leftist scum. just a matter of when.

[@Zakalwe-01]

Correct, and when they've got total control of Steam, you can kiss goodbye to your library as they memory-hole any problematic content.

[@Lezarddd]

I wonder if the HW playerbase is passionate enough to eventually mod the old campaign back into the game, or what we assume it should've been, if enough stuff is datamined/found.

[@Kyle7565]

If the mod tools work, I expect most of the games life will be in mods

[@marcogenovesi8570]

the game itself mechanically is a mess. This is a Starfield situation where top modders give up

[@Patman-cr3tu]

I really hope they do. This just takes a giant DEI crap on all the others before. but I guess they could just mod it so it doesn't play the cutsceans.

[@kurtwinter4422]

I'm not spending a penny on this garbage.

[@falcon5190]

“I didn't have time to write a short letter, so I wrote a long one instead.” ― Mark Twain That's the one thing the managing director of Gearbox doesn't understand. Homeworld was always beautiful in it's simplicity of narrative.

[@ydoumus]

I have a feeling those files were left there on purpose by pissed off devs for people like us to find out. To whomever left them in: I salute you and thank you. As for the pink lesbian: hope you end up like Kharak in terms of finding a new job.

[@zeehero7280]

Well it seems the company which worked on this game DESPERATELY hates money and desires bankruptcy.

[@jimgiraffe5253]

their terms are acceptable

[@HappyAspid]

About changes in personality. 3rd mission of original homeworld says it all. Character felt cold and calm in the face of crisis.

[@brianjohnson5272]

Im guessing the devs left that stuff to be datamined intentionally. This was so, men like Arch, could comment on it and bring it to light and show the corporate people just starting to pay attention that if it was left alone it would have done better. The woke, now realizing this content is in will be patching it out to cover up that sales would have been higher without their "fixes" so get copies of the unpatched NOW.

[@TheManofthecross]

mods will put that back in and if they tried to patch it everyone will know and can undo the patch.

[@NeverDry999]

If I had a nickel for every time a beloved sci-fi RTS series developed by Relic had a third game that was such a massive stinker that it died shortly after launch and ruined the entire franchise along with it...

[@misanthropicattackhelicopt4148]

They do seem to be cursed.

[@C0wsmacker]

I would have at least 3 nickels, which isn't much but its interesting that its happened at least 3 times(COH, HW, DoW)

[@avatarwarmech]

Well luckily that's not going to happen with Sins of a Solar Empire 2

[@avatarwarmech]

​@@C0wsmackeralso don't forget command and conquer with command and conquer 4

[@C0wsmacker]

@@avatarwarmech fuck why did you remind me, makes me wanna install generals zero hour The last good cnc imo, to wash away the sin.

[@scipher99]

I couldn't believe they got Lord Farquad to play Imogen.

[@micketm3]

They masacrated our Karan S'Jet... and replaced her with a Karen... 😩😢😞.... 😡😠

[@Sinphanius]

I knew this game was in trouble when I saw the Mothership was Horizontal and the new Fleet Command had Hair that wasn't made of Network Cables.

[@Dem0nhunt3r4]

How does it feel to have lived long enough to see all your favorite franchises go down in flames?... Feels great!

[@Patman-cr3tu]

There was one thing in the story that poped out to me. When she says that should be impossible to hyperspace in objects didn't remember that in Deserts of Karak one of the missions had ships hyperspace into the planet and be fine.

[@toxicpony3381]

Sweet Baby detected. Even they may not were involved in this game, their spirit seems strong in this!

[@rohenthar8449]

Agree. For me, when I saw first mission, I said to my friend that Homeworld universe lore was bastardized. When I saw 3rd mission, I said this is DEI feast. When I saw 5 or 6th mission I said that Homeworld has died. Im very thankful for streamers, I saved a lot of money thanks to them. Thank you guys!

[@ThortheGodly]

All hail Arch! He who shall not be linked. The Salutationator. Long may he laugh.

[@homeworld2evolution]

Many thanks to the author for the correct video, because sometimes you can still meet people admired by the shame called Homeworld3! I'm really sad that the Homeworld franchise was ruined. I am sure that everything happened due to the fact that the owners did not put their souls into their project, people with cold souls who are only interested in profit and nothing more.

[@BurghezulDjentilom]

One hundred years ago, a satellite detected an object under the sands of the Great Desert. An expedition was sent. An ancient star ship, buried in the sand. Deep inside the ruin was a single disc that would change the course of our history forever. On the disc was burned a video game ...

[@OmegaZyion]

The gameplay actually isn't very good. As an example, in mission 5 there are anti-frigate corvettes protecting anti-fighter turrets and you're supposed to use the terrain to sneak around and complete objectives. I built 15 of the basic assault frigate and easily wiped the map of enemies on HARD difficulty. There was no real thought or play testing put into the combat.

[@aj.j5833]

They trying force game into a story that doesn't fit it's mechanics.

[@R3LL1K1]

*Starts chair spinning whilst raising middle fingers saying: FUCK YOU I WAS RIGHT!*

[@doomspud6302]

Maybe we'll get lucky, and some lovely modders can put the original campaign back together from these pieces. Then, of course, immediately get banned from Nexus for wrongthink, as is becoming tradition.

[@3mpt7]

100% of the beloved science fiction/fantasy franchises have been ruined over the past decade, because companies do not want thought provoking stories, they want less thought, less progress, and apparently, lots of forgiveness for atrocities they commit or allow to happen whilst they rake in the money. This goes to show that they know how to make the stories and characters, and games that were popular over 20 years (and movies that were popular for 40 years)--they simply deliberately avoid doing so.

[@SlippstersVideos]

We went from the Helldivers dumster fire to this one...un-believable...

[@BroNapartay]

Game development takes 3-7 years to complete. There are many more such examples like HW3, SushiSquad, AC SamuraiZe in the pipeline that will be released over the next 1-2 years that are too late in the development process to course correct... I'm looking at you GTA6.

[@Doomwolf82002]

@@BroNapartay Some thing goes for film as well since a lot of the Far-Left Activist sludge was in development at the height of the woke zeitgeist/# MeToo era.

[@F_Around_and_find_out]

Taking an established franchise and flips it is a sure way to get The Message through: They don’t care and they hate us - the true fans that were there and make the whole thing worked in the first place. I thought SBI infested trash Suicide Squad is enough to get the higher ups smarten up, and now this.

[@CommissarDan]

We need the Beast to come back, and eat everyone.

[@sainsburyshopper]

They won't pull anything out of the hat, and they won't turn anything around. Instead they'll double down and suggest that the problem is you, not the product. It's just the way of these things.

[@James-l5s7k]

I have so many vidya games already, I have no problem sitting on my massive disposable income rather than giving it to fascists. **plays Caesar 3**

[@migrivp2672]

Predictions: the flagtivist will use their leverage in politics to tax unspent disposable income that is not put towards flag infested business

[@Deridus]

Caesar 3 always glitches out on me in Carthage. Love that game.

[@pubcle]

My backlog of games to enjoy from 1990-2015 stretches far beyond anything these could entice me for. Also I'd rather spend such time designing my own game than suffering these tendrils.

[@zorokicksass60]

my ps2X emulator carriers hard

[@adaeptzulander2928]

Mods add whole new quests to games. Skyrim still going stong.

[@lyvekis8824]

You either go independant or you better bury the project from the beginning because nothing good will arise from AAA funding.

[@TheManofthecross]

just go politically to the right as far as you can go with all levels to ensure that they can never get close to it. it has to be politically hostile to the left and then some for it to be safe. otherwise it will get corrupted to the left.

[@MagralhoPT]

Im a very big fan of the homeworld series... its been 20 years... when can we get a third game?

[@tba113]

There's the prequel Deserts of Kharak, but I can see how its focus on planetary-surface warfare would lead some to consider it not a true HW game. Even with it counted toward the total, though, you're right: Deserts came out in 2016, so it's been a good long while since we had a new HW title.

[@MrJay_White]

era one looks close

[@riesstiu2khunning]

@@MrJay_White We've had 3 "space Homeworlds" for over 20 years now. And if the actual question was about when the modding community fixes this empty can, the answer is likely never. The game and its roadmap of updates is so bad, modders are giving up on it.

[@bwhasse]

OG Homeworlds, Cataclysm, DOK - forever in our hearts

[@CapitalTeeth]

As someone who has not played a single homeworld game, I give my condolences to those who do. I know what it feels like to see your favorite game series turned into a DEI money farm.

[@Bertranddeghaul]

Thanks for the heads-up was actually looking forward to this one thinking to buy it for nostalgia reasons, now this one goes on the list buy only with 90% discount for the including everything version when its in the bargain bin at steam in a few years

[@marcogenovesi8570]

it's so bad it's not worth buying at all

[@MrZoichi]

We lost Higaara again boys. 😥

[@riesstiu2khunning]

The state of HW3 broke my heart. 23 years of wait...

[@1987CRER]

Generally speaking, Homeworld fans always wanted the story of an entire people fighting for their place in a hostile universe, with Fleet Command as a cypher for the Hiigaran people. The story was always supposed to represent the big picture. We felt the enormity of the loss of Kharak from a combination of the musical score, the sight of Kharak burning, the muted grief and fury of Fleet Command, barely masked by a veneer of professionalism, and the constrained, bitterly incomplete, but palpable satisfaction of Fleet Intel reporting the death of the Taiidani captives under interrogation. We don't see their faces, we don't hear the screams of the civilians on Kharak as they're incinerated, we just know they're there, the scale of the tragedy doesn't need to be implied when the entire northern hemisphere of Kharak is charcoal black. The trauma is processed just enough that the player fills in the blanks with their own emotional response, and that response is given a catharsis in the form of launching a desperate and furious galactic crusade against the Taiidan Empire. It gave the player a very strong motivation to shepherd the last remnants of a people on the edge of extinction to their rightful home. HW3 by comparison is actually really embarrassingly juvenile. It's a coming of age story that is a jarringly bad fit for the setting, the situation and the consequences of failure. There's nothing INHERENTLY wrong with Imogen S'Jet as an idea, but they zoomed in too far, made her too emotionally vulnerable for the player to think of as a leader and humanized her far too much. Karan S'Jet was always an ethereal presence, she wasn't her body, she was the Mothership, the Bentusi even had a name for her, "Unbound". She became almost a godlike figure, like a legend should be. Unfortunately Karan was given the same treatment to the detriment of the story. They turned something epic into something personal; it feels like they took someone's journal that they've written at the direction of their therapist, and sketched a generic sci-fi story out of it. It's bad because it's self-indulgent...a writer who was less self-interested and self-satisfied could have taken the exact same ingredients and made them into something that was recognizably Homeworld.

[@blacklake13]

If you have a PhD and are not a physician, hard scientist, or (in some cases) historian, it's safe to presume that - while you could self-perpetuate indefinitely within academia - outside in the real world you're good for absolutely nothing.

[@airdog20]

Hell even "hello games" couldn't pull this sinking ship to dock

[@preservinglight]

These god damn hobby squatters

[@Deadinthemiddleoflittleitaly]

Where is Sajuuk, in a museum?

[@iainbaker6916]

I got put on ‘time out’ on the official HW3 FB page for sharing your last video on the subject. Think you might have hit a nerve 😈 What we need now is a ‘Original Story Restoration’ mod to create the game as it should have been.

[@rbailey1240]

Lots of reality-denying people over there.

[@TaiidanOnslaught]

I’ve been in that group since 2012. It’s now run by ideologues.

[@TheManofthecross]

untill they find a way to ban mods and more.

[@project9701]

...the worst part is that so many people believed in this game. I wanted to believe in it, that they wouldn't mess up something that so many people were waiting for, especially after so many other failures to update for the "modern" or "wider" audience. ...well, this just means that I get play more of the originals on Steam.

[@TheManofthecross]

they will find a way to retroactivelly break those games so they are useless.

[@MalefaxTheBlack]

Look how these effers murdered my boy… 😭

[@a.r.hollowayauthor7210]

What you said at around the 5 min mark is exactly whatbi was hoping for. I was excited this game would be more character driven and plot heavy. Thats something i had been looking forward to. And more world building. Just an opportunity to flesh out the world. But uh . .. nope

[@droughty666]

The only thing that can salvage Homeworld 3 is a as late as possible leak of the non pozzed game version and some modders to patch it up.

[@Echo_Online]

I've beeb watching a play through of homeworld three and there's something weird and a bit uncanny about the story. The way all these characters are chatting about random things. A magical super queen. Hopping between gates and dawdling into trouble as opposed to long jumping to actual places. And ofc how cramped space seems to be these days