Dating Today Is Not About Getting To Know You | The Joe Budden Podcast

[@jamestribie3387]

Learn to be alone. Then once that’s mastered, dating will be easier to deal with. Desperation won’t come about because you’re able to be by yourself.

[@dglenn313]

That's why easier said than done if you're somebody that has to really move around out here. You meet to many people to pass on them all. You'll end up testing the water damn near without even trying.

[@jamestribie3387]

Dan Glenn you dont have to pass on them all. Im saying someone doesnt have to be so thirsty about getting into something because they good regardless of the outcome. I know ppl that cant be by themselves for 2 weeks before they in a relationship again. Shit is wild.

[@louweez84]

This Part!!!

[@KD_SWAGGER]

Awesome advice!

[@JCM311]

Yup

[@AverySimoneGlover]

People don’t take the time to get to know themselves before trying to get to know someone else

[@comb87]

Facts

[@AverySimoneGlover]

Action Potential15 I can understand where you are coming from. But the constant factor is that people don’t heal themselves before intermingling with others. Once you have a grasp on who you are and what you contribute both good and bad there is nothing but a beautiful, blissful life after . Either alone or with someone...in the words of ru Paul “if you can’t love yourself , how the hell can anyone else”

[@flacohernandez4380]

Ever since I got a grasp on who I was and what want in my life, I have lost interest in getting to know women, they are a waste of time.

[@flacohernandez4380]

@Brooklyn Nets 2021 Champions Nah, I love women... For sex that's it. I don't see what value they bring outside of that honestly... To my life they bring nothing to the table. Most girls I've encountered are boring and expect you to do everything, no hobbies, nothing... Absolutely nothing besides just being a companion. I've dated a lot of girls and I have come to realize I'm better off single. I have nothing to lose not having a woman by my side.

[@nichellem5400]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@brandonf.8360]

The problem is little to no communicating and a lot of assuming.

[@dominiqueosorio-davis6781]

And listening to single friends.

[@brandonf.8360]

@@dominiqueosorio-davis6781 everyone in relationships don't always give the best advice.

[@greenhorn8278]

This. I can't stand the phrase "Isn't it obvious", "You're just supposed to know" or "I don't have to tell you..".

[@brandonf.8360]

@@greenhorn8278 it kills the "getting to know each other" phase

[@nortorioustxc4359]

Samuel Sadiyano facts

[@daniel_najar]

I think the main problem today is everyone has too many options. Social Media really hurt the relationship game. You never know who might be looking at your Girlfriend/Boyfriend or what messages they might be secretly having when your not present. People are always searching for a better option and couples don't fight through adversity they have the mindset that they'll just swing to another person if things don't work out or they find someone that can do more for them. Love appears to be purely conditional in many cases and doesn’t last for very long. I think as a society we all started valuing the wrong things and can learn from previous generations who valued commitment and didn't break their marriage vows. I think Love is still out there to be found but people have to hit that maturity point where "they've had their fun" and are ready to be serious.

[@SuperSlickrick3]

Daniel Najar I going to copy this don’t hate me

[@lv5310]

Nailed it! "The grass isn't always greener on the other side"

[@saraadam3941]

Daniel Najar absolutely spot onnnnnn

[@EclecticGiraffe]

Millinial Picasso so is your argument that men aren’t looking for greener grass at the same rate as women?

[@EclecticGiraffe]

Daniel Najar very well said

[@7_Coinz]

A relationship shouldn’t even be this difficult!!

[@AB1B1]

The shit is sad

[@TheIntrovert83]

Dis Too Much!

[@EclecticGiraffe]

RealBlessed agreed.

[@brandonwombacher2559]

If its not fun and to hard. Dont date

[@philautiaetdiligoalii4089]

I felt like that shouldve been in all caps 😂

[@moe9587]

Im 28 soon and dating is already exhausting and i know will get worse lol. Im glad ive always liked my own company.

[@seanmiller4559]

True

[@pacificocean7361]

Why is the Night Stalker on here???

[@pacificocean7361]

Why do we have a serial killer on here??? Richard Ramirez The Night Stalker, girls he's giving you a hint he's trying to tell you something same name as a serial killer and his picture is the same

[@sashaperkins]

I’m 28 and “with” someone who’s 21.

[@icecoldleone3988]

Same 28 year old black man and always single 🤷‍♂️

[@BigChrisENT]

Rory be saying things that make you forget he's engaged to be married...

[@ab_shootin]

Dunno what it is but since the start of the year rory been in his bag for real letting that shit fly

[@cruelladereal7484]

THIS

[@ryandavis858]

Rory lowkey hate it there 🤣

[@SammiTheSweetheart327]

Right!!!

[@elsapadilla2897]

He is only 28 so that might have something to do with it

[@bruceleroy2335]

Now falling in love is a weird concept... Being with one person forever is a weird concept... These millennials have completely lost me.

[@knightassailant]

“A woman’s 🐱isn’t all a man wants unless that all a woman has to offer” - Patrice O’Neal

[@kchikwete]

Shadow Ken89 RIP

[@khalfanigrant7199]

🔥🔥🔥

[@alvinhah3367]

@@khalfanigrant7199 Ive always seen Patrice, here and there. It would've been so amazing to hear his message as a young man growing up.

[@Hawah15]

🙄

[@philcook227]

What a God.

[@staceywoods539]

It’s harder to be in a relationship now, because we don’t need each other anymore. Back in the day the man and woman had roles.

[@dantef4399]

Stacey Woods I believe the issue is everybody doesn’t know their role , and not comfortable being they self.. men don’t know how to be men and they not comfortable being who they truly are and men and women don’t understand each other.. and we do need each other love, from the dawn of time to the end of time we need each other

[@greatjeff2765]

Exactly 👏🏾

[@ScaryToRemarry]

So true! I just talked about this. Men and women no longer need each other (except sex)

[@staceywoods539]

Jom James no role. Both men and women got their own everything. So once we argue the couple just say I’m good, I don’t need you.

[@thebotfather9508]

feminism ruined functioning gender roles & the family unit. for once, can women admit they f**ked dating up for everybody?

[@itsnancyestrada]

I think social media has given a false look into what a relationship should be. Guys and girls have gotten lazy with dating because of how easy it is to jump on an app and find someone to hook up with. Finding someone that values the old type of “relationship” seems impossible. Family, building trust, and marriage... that all seems foreign to the younger generations.

[@citysk]

True, but not just the younger generation. Some of these 40 plus yr olds are out here with the mentality of a 20yr old. Met a few of them and it's very sad.

[@sentry9834]

I've never used a dating app to meet someone. Have you? Just curious.

[@seanmiller4559]

This is a microwave generation.

[@mannydestine2994]

Exactly! It’s kinda sad and it makes some of those who are actually looking for the family-building, marriage lifestyle give up dating altogether

[@estreyfelion2190]

I'm from the old school era 90s baby. Love was and is still real, just gotta hold onto it until the real one appears

[@bidossessi]

"You wouldn't want to be next to somebody that long". Speak for yourself. Your partner is your "companion", not your "entertainment". Understanding that simple fact makes the above quote absolute nonsense. I'm at 20 years of togetherness, and still hoping for "till death do us part" here. You actually _DO_ want companions for life, be they friends or partners. Would you want to change your childhood friends because "you've known them too long"? How would that make sense? Why should a relationship be any different? You get past a certain age and you are _done_ with the introductions and the giddiness of new beginnings. You just don't have the patience for that stuff anymore. You just want to skip to the part where you've seen the worst in each other, survived it, and are already settling into a comfortable routine. That takes time to build. A lot of time.

[@tonileolion9702]

Stanislas Sodonon I def couldn’t agree with u more .

[@chrisgarzon7245]

@Will Buy It maybe is...doesn't mean that you cant go back to the basics🤷🏾‍♂️

[@chrisgarzon7245]

Real talk

[@diamondunicorn2421]

We are in this society and time frame (I’m in my late 40’s ) people are dating people’s demons. Playing with them , that’s why to me relationships don’t work and they remain situationship. We need to date someone who is healthy and healed. Build with their healing.

[@Ms_T_Perfectly_Imperfect]

SO very true and also what the guy behind the camera stated about unrealistic/unmet expectations.

[@danishbutter1847]

that just hit a mile away for me right here.

[@KD_SWAGGER]

Love what Joe Budden said about bringing childhood trauma into a relationship. Fix all your flaws while being alone before you date someone. Best friends make the best relationships I feel. Always have high standards and never settle for less. Always be honest as well!

[@LakerGirl1624]

This 💯

[@KD_SWAGGER]

@@LakerGirl1624 Glad you agree!

[@flacohernandez4380]

I decided to do this as well, focused on myself, my finances, fixed my flaws and ultimately made my success #1. I realized I don't actually want to be with any girls, I want to have fun with them and all but outside of that I have 0 interest, these girls are a total waste of time bruh, all they do is slow you down, I'm better off single, happy and rich. 😂 I don't have to share shit with anyone. When I was broke and unsuccessful I desperately wanted a girlfriend and was focused on the wrong things, being successful really does put things into perspective, now I just laugh at people in relationships because half of y'all are miserable af. 😂 Always complaining to me about how their boyfriend this and girlfriend that 😂😂😂. You could be single like me and do whatever you want.

[@KD_SWAGGER]

@@flacohernandez4380 Very well said, I tell people all the time do what makes you happy, but never settle for less.

[@thisblackgirloverhere9013]

KD SWAGGER You’ll be alone for the rest of your days if that were the case, because most childhood traumas are lifelong and even with therapy, they are only reduced. Fix all of your flaws?? How?? Most of the time, dating your best friend doesn’t translate well into a relationship. It SOUNDS good though. I’ve seen too many people give their longtime best friend a chance and it never worked out AND the friendship was lost because you can’t go back to just being friends after that. Always have high standards, never settle for less, and always be honest...sounds good but you will end up alone unless you’re a very rich and very beautiful person...on the OUTSIDE.😂

[@williamizm3745]

Dating has always been a mating dance. Social media just brought out the complexities of it.

[@SEAndies]

William disagree. Social media rather gave certain predisposed ppl a NON INTENDED platform to even more dilute, corrupt and oversimplify people’s emotional, sexual and complexities. For example what about tinder or a slimy unthoughtful DM is complex and really getting at fulfilling human connection and true lust and attraction to someone? is that complex or dimensional to u or even giving a human a good chance at that? What are the chances u meet your best man on a tinder like app? Would u want to? Slim. And if you do, the qualities and effort you would put into getting to know them to want to hang and be real w them, do most ppl utilize dating apps that way? Nope and why is that so and why is that all of a sudden a norm for romantic interests? Bc corrupt exploitation of a platform (social media)

[@williamizm3745]

I am not saying the social media is positive. Its obviously a negative thing when it comes to dating. But man the clubs still exist. You still meet cute girls in public. So if you choose to date from social media be ready to deal with the complexities that come with it.

[@OEThe11]

I'm with Joe in this. How is it his ego for not pushing to connect with each other if he already gave you the olive branch to work out a time to do so. If anything its more her ego thinking that the guy had to go above and beyond, just to meet with her. Tf?

[@redlionesv]

Bingo

[@beatsbythekilo]

rs

[@369pendulum]

Exactly. They throw the word ego around too much.

[@TenaciousZen]

facts

[@kingc1198]

Straight facts ,ladies make dating difficult I don't have to go beyond for anyone ot stopping for me

[@seels7256]

38 years old. Never met anyone on the internet. No shade but you can still talk to people in real life 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@thebotfather9508]

not with this corona & quarantine stuff poppin off 😂

[@MAGACAT]

Ay ayyy cornaaa watcjhnmmcmmm/mmmmmd

[@Cuddy83]

I'm 37 and that internet shit is still weird to me

[@MrComic97]

john doe who gonna meet up with out taking them out first 😂

[@biggmixxo]

Thanks again

[@VanityMania]

I'm 28 and I have never been in a relationship. I've always been happy by myself and with family and friends. I recently started the online thing and was immediately reminded of why I haven't been looking. It seems like everyone is so superficial. No one cares about getting to know another person. Everything is so flashy and unappealing. If you do start talking to someone you have no idea of whether or not they're trying to play you. They could have a completely other relationship and just be looking to smash you on the side. Sometimes it's just best to do it the old way. After The Rona that is of course.

[@oompalompai2]

I'm 28 as well and I can relate to your comment. I just deleted Hinge because I felt the same way. Life after Rona is going to be interesting.

[@marvinholley5838]

Are you a Virgin

[@m4sean1]

Marvin Holley if she isn’t a virgin then everything she wrote is invalid to me 😂😂😂

[@scerb100]

Maybe you’re an ace

[@RnBkeyz]

That's weird

[@Mr.Dayahk]

2. The internet didnt ruin dating, people ruined dating n thats y they're on the internet. Often times ppl choose to make superficial the focus to make things official and that's where the problem sits. People are more focused on presenting their image or persona for others to date rather than themselves because they have learn to make peace with their flaws so they mask it which is the root cause of narcissistic behavior. Which is y nobody dates anymore because it feels more like a tryout or a job interview than a date, which in turn is more of a business arrangement or competition rather than getting to know someone, u dont need dinner n a movie to actually sit and converse n build on a topic nor do u need sex on the 1st date to validate desire. At some point we as people are going to have to leave are mental stuff at the door in order to open it to get into the house of dating. If not go home do some more wrk on ones self n try again when ready.

[@TenaciousZen]

BIG facts

[@omari7219]

Agree with all of this, thanks for sharing.

[@Mr.Dayahk]

@@omari7219 thank you for the comment and support for the 2 part comment

[@Mr.Dayahk]

And a thank u to prep and tenacious

[@mastercdric]

💯💯💯

[@runshoottech]

I agree with joe, no double texting, because if she wanted to text back she would, that’s just a fact, so if it takes days for her to respond, I’ll wait, or that may be the end of us communicating and that’s just where it’s at, if I’m not that important for her to respond to, or start another conversation, then it wouldn’t work out in the end so it might as well stop at the last text that I sent her.

[@Dewane1511]

See I wish women would just be that honest from jump. If they were that honest they wouldn't get as much attention. Which is why MOST women will never be upfront about anything.

[@runshoottech]

Dewane H they want the attention and lead men on in doing so.

[@slim3710]

Lol I'm in the same boat with shorty

[@irina383]

So why wouldn’t you be the man and call her couple of days after the text? People are hiding behind texts and if you ask me -if you don’t have balls to call me I ain’t got time for you. Be straightforward and genuine, stop running games on people and women will take you seriously.

[@DJStreamZzz]

Irina Serdyukova sikeee y’all women be playing Ik y’all be watching the phone when we call and still don’t pick up foh

[@KLa35]

Too many people are looking for a quarantine buddy at this moment.

[@vonversace]

😂 😂 😂

[@quintonmaldonado8368]

Quarantine cuffing 🤕🤧

[@LukaDonesnitch]

These people are always looking for a buddy, even before quarantine. LOL. This is their mentality whether it's a disaster event or everything is regular-degular-schmegular.

[@Sp1n1985]

It is not as prominent as you believe

[@joanas4335]

Facts 😂😂😂😂💀

[@themanssj25]

Double txt ish is st8 facts , like it ain’t ego , cuz one everybody on their phone , n no one is too busy for something they want

[@vonversace]

I say that everyday..

[@adekunleadedokun5125]

I wish I can retweet... 😆 😆 😆

[@seandafny]

Thats a lie bro i be too busy to catch up on Naruto or finish Assassins Creed sometimes. Nigga cant even get these gold guns in CoD if im too busy to do that a mf shud understand not getting a text back. Only reason i can now cause the quarantine. I aint go lie this virus shit kinda cool lbs

[@seandafny]

N also nigga like me be wanting to jus text back “ok” or “cool” so badly but i kno its not good etiquette so now i gotta think of something more thoughtful to text n it becomes just another task i dont feel like doing so its not always simple as no one too busy

[@PaullHutchh]

@@seandafny gold guns in cod lmao omg

[@goldeneratv8197]

The problem in today's dating is it's not about love and getting to know someone anymore..its about want you got and wat you can do for me!

[@Mr_Banker222]

What it is, is people are looking at each other in a "What can this person do for me" attitude and people are looking for something they can't have..

[@ddavis7338]

It's ruthless out there. Honestly I don't even want kids everything going straight to hell lol too much weird shit. And as a man who knows female nature... You can either love them or understand them... Can't do both

[@redlionesv]

When you peep game its nasty out here

[@ell5261]

That was a real statement!

[@OEThe11]

Control what you can control

[@brandonf.8360]

sometimes we have to know ourselves before trying to figure someone else out.

[@MrAcehard]

Red Lion 718 peep have none to do lol... was piping 1 lost her to a goon x) but the chicks was deranged anyways

[@Jahfariinternational]

Dating today is not about getting to know one another but what you could do for the other person. Most women don't give a damn about who you are as a person but what you can do for them.

[@irina383]

Not true, unless everyone you tried to date are Instagram hoes.

[@hugovega6438]

Irina Serdyukova i think we let social media tell the whole story when there’s so much more going on outside of it

[@dappa311]

Selector Jah I say it all the time! It’s a fact

[@arielaava2102]

That's why you need to learn how to discern a character of that person. If you learn to read people it will be easier to tell who is real and who is full of shit.

[@bigche5859]

I'm a woman and I'm running into men with that mindset...not here for me but want to live off of me...

[@dayle.johnson6683]

Dating nowadays is just crazy just stay single and have fun less stressful situation.😂

[@siliziwendlela]

The problem is at some point we all want that one person to be with... I've been been single and I enjoy it but sometimes I actually want to be with someone.

[@Valley__]

Na I would rather be with one man because in the dating scene it’s hard to find someone you like. You may meet 6 ppl in 2 months and maybe MAYBE ONE, would be coo.

[@CiaobellaAmour]

@@Valley__ all facts 💯

[@dayle.johnson6683]

Yasmine yes I’m much happier now .

[@dayle.johnson6683]

Valley trust me you right about that .👍

[@jiptempelaars8605]

This is really a good conversation!

[@salttsaltt1793]

Jip Tempelaars facts. They should post more of this type of content

[@jerseyltd]

Mal and parks right. You gotta get to know eachother first. Be friends first. We hear that all the time but ignore it and jump right into it.

[@robertm5855]

Jersey LTD because trying to be friends can get you friend zoned

[@flacohernandez4380]

Was dating this fine chic, honestly just wanted to take her out and get to know her but after the first date bruh she already wanted to spend the weekend at my place, became a regular thing, her wanting to have sex with me like every day.... SHE then accuses me of only wanting sex 😂

[@PamphileJonathan]

@@flacohernandez4380 It seems like you met the right woman but wasn't ready for it.

[@arielaava2102]

@@robertm5855 So what! life is about taking risks, if they friend zone you then you move on to someone else. Are you scared of rejection?

[@dutchb.l.d4704]

@@robertm5855 You only get friendzoned by a woman if you dont let your intentions be known & if you always keep a friendly vibe. If you let her know that you want her, & you wanna fuck (Not directly, just flirt & let her know you find her attractive) she's not gonna friendzone you

[@CapnAkira]

I've never understood modern dating. Why would a man pay a woman to resent him when plenty of women hate men for free?

[@DieHardNapkinsGaming]

James Brown u smart

[@Silverman216]

word

[@nkwakutoure]

Where is your father?

[@alvinhah3367]

@@nkwakutoure "Where is your father?" Why do you ask that question?

[@CapnAkira]

@@nkwakutoure At home. Probably sleeping.

[@mzreckless1818]

Mal is the type to propose in silent and actually get married.

[@bleedwolf5]

You must be the Bride

[@eastwaters4082]

Ain't nothing wrong with that, even if you gotta be a fool to propose today!

[@BluEx22329]

Good

[@kathleensarkeesian8506]

Not double texting... Isn't called ego... Is called self-respect and patience

[@EclecticGiraffe]

it could be both.

[@breac7387]

Its def pride..if you looking at your phone and saying na..and you can sometimes ppl need and like a reminder...

[@TTLOSF]

@@breac7387 I don't think that's true. I think more times than not, people see their texts. Even if they didn't see it in the moment, they saw it later. We all have our phones in our lives everyday. That "I need a reminder" excuse is just a person's way of saying "I need to be chased".

[@breac7387]

Maybe that's true but sometimes when I don't read a text I may forget but then again I do appreciate a little chase on both ends..

[@lordreyna6924]

@@breac7387 I’m definitely one of these people but also bc my job I’m always doing something with my hands so a reminder or a check in is helpful bc then I’ll know it’s possibly urgent and needs my attention.

[@jjcunni1]

People don't want to get into relationships because it requires them to undo all of their "ways" and views on what a relationship should be. The moment things aren't going the way they thought it would, in their own minds, then there's conflict. Their partner is deviating from the plan by doing what either makes sense or feels right; blurring the lines a bit.

[@johnsmith23ist]

J born sinner nah even narcissistic men too

[@Kluermoi]

Agree!! I feel so sad for my mom because she wants to date again and remarry but she literally can’t find anyone. She’s a beautiful women and has so much love to give. She is 63 so any cool daddy’s out there over the age of 60 holla at my mama.

[@moriahogola8665]

Honestly wish i knew somebody. If I do will def let you know.

[@ShaqDaddyx380]

Going through the comments, there's a lot of people blaming the other gender for these issues occurring, and to be honest, I think both genders are struggling when it comes to wholesome relationships, and we both need to come together and be honest and come to an understanding. It's not just about "female nature" or "male nature" but human nature. Human Nature makes it hard for people to stay faithful and in relationships, especially in this day of age. But moments like these make it better/easier for all of us to share our perspectives and learn from the other gender. No one is perfect, & no side is perfect, but it will take both sides to come together and solve this "relationship issue" we have going on as of lately. Communication, Honesty, & Accountability are the 1st couple of steps in my opinion in solving these issues we have.

[@closeenough1343]

Believe it or not. The truth is that it's the womans fault. They are the gatekeepers of sex and childbirth. They tend to realize the importance of this when it is too late. Its unfortunate but it's the truth. Woman have all the options while they are young as their youth fades so does their value.

[@ShaqDaddyx380]

@@closeenough1343 Trust me, I understand where you're coming from. But men also hold some blame in regards to this topic. I can tell you have done some research on RP & so have I. But that is an inconsistency, that I see in regards to putting the blame on women, especially in the RP communities. 1. Yes, women are the gatekeepers in regards to sex, however, the lack of fathers doesn't allow for women to understand their worth at times. Yes, men are kicked out of the homes with divorce, but there are a lot of men just not willing to take up the responsibility of being a father or at least a good one. Blaming women for getting pregnant by a deadbeat man isn't entirely her fault. If the man changed up last minute, which does happen, I've seen it, then she's not the 1 to blame. We should be blaming men for not owning up to their responsibilities. 2. When it comes to the topic of options, men & women are the same. Women have more options when they are younger, yes, but hypothetically put yourself in their shoes. If you had a bunch of options because you hit the lottery or got incredibly attractive out of nowhere, wouldn't you do the exact same thing?? You would have your fun or try to pick the BEST option for yourself, possible. Men actually use their options when they get older. Hence why men cheat more than women. But even if you don't have that many options, ugly men still cheat, which means they have options as well. The options may not be a lot or quality options, compared to women, but they're still options. Also cheating doesn't help the situation either. That's another reason why I feel like we are in this situation. Too much cheating. And tbh, men cheat more than women, so that's also on us. Throughout history, we've tried to explain why cheating is okay for men to do & instead of changing that horrible attribute about ourselves, we decided to rationalize it, which made the situation worse. That's why women are cheating almost as much as men. We as men, are still beating women in regards to "who cheats more", but women are catching up & fast. A lot of women are saying that if men can do it, then we will do it too. Is that immature? Yes, but I understand why it's happening. So now women are making us feel the same way we've felt for decades. Some innocent men are just getting caught in the fire that men from the past created. Similar to how white men of today are blamed for slavery & being racist, even though they may not have a single ounce of racism in them. Hatred carries forward, unless you address the issue and work on the problems, instead of rationalizing toxicity. 3. Another thing is, society pushes for women to be more promiscuous than ever before. However, society is comprised of men & women. There are men who are agreeing to this behavior & even condoning it. The men with the most power say nothing, & encourage that type of behavior. If you think about it, men are at the very top of everything in this world, when it comes to the politicians & even the people above them. There's an agenda being pushed to divide men & women, that for some reason men at the top are agreeing with. If this was such a huge issue, celebrity men & men of power wouldn't be getting married still, some of them get married 2-3 times. Marriage would be obsolete. Marriage is declining & so is fertility rates, but that's not entirely because of men walking away. RP & MGTOW communities aren't that big compared to the rest of the world, & majority of men aren't getting married or having kids because that stuff is REALLY expensive, especially in this day of age. If you want to have a family of 3 (mom, dad, kid), to get by comfortably, you need an annual household income of at least 75K - 80K. Some people would say more, depending on where you live. We already know 90% of Americans make 80K - 90K or less. So the cost of living keeps going up, while people are staying stagnant with their salaries. So the rich/wealthy are the ones getting married. There are a bunch of other issues. But the responsibility isn't just on women. We as men also hold a responsibility as well. 4. Also people lie tbh. So if a man comes off as a great guy & then months later switches up, then that's not her fault. We as men have also dealt with women changing after months of knowing them. It's human nature. Both sides have to come together & have hard & difficult discussions on why things are so bad & bring up RP theories to women so they can understand how we see them & how we feel. Women do it all the time with their social media, we should as well. I think the biggest reason why there's so many issues between men & women is because men are silenced & aren't able to express how they feel without being insulted. When people feel as though their words aren't important bad things happen, like men & women not seeing eye to eye. It's the same thing with politics, religion, & race. Politics, Race, & Gender are the biggest battles at the moment. No side wins because another side is always silenced or shamed. Until that changes, nothing will change. & both sides are needed to do that. Thank you for commenting though, I appreciate your perspective.

[@johnsmith23ist]

Shaquil Njovens an main No God fearing...we really need divine healing

[@ShaqDaddyx380]

@@johnsmith23ist Facts! 💯💯💯

[@reeceburrell5487]

Be careful, people will call you a simp. I've said similar things and it has not gone well.

[@None-of-yours22.]

I like how their conversation flows. They allow each other to speak so that everyone can be heard. Great topic of conversation.

[@youngprophet5138]

man it all starts with the man. Are you going to use a girl for sex or sit down and build with her and take care of EACHOTHER financially and emotionally. When youre not honest and play games then nothing will come of that relationship

[@Chevie-YourTicketingGuide]

Agreed!!!!

[@thedissilent2548]

Y’all swear everything starts with the man. Not in the 21st century. This isn’t the 1950s; women have autonomy and make decisions on their own accord. If a woman wants to play a man for no reason, she will-no matter if he’s doing everything right.

[@AC-ih1dr]

I think a lot of men don't know how to court and women have given up on the courting process because of feeling like their time has been wasted. So then no one is upholding any kind of standard. Then when either have found someone that they truly like, they either fuck up from the jump, because of previous experiences / or don't know how to maintain relationships because of lack of experience.

[@KennnnyT]

girls in this generation prefer fuckboys if that's what you mean by courting

[@AC-ih1dr]

@@harorider96 The people that I associate with do, some christian others not. Long and short, most people aren't quality people (I mean that for both sides.).

[@AC-ih1dr]

@@KennnnyT relationships involve 2 people. It's not that women like fuckbois, its that many don't realize he is a fuckboi until its too late... hence the moniker. And as either a male or female, you are more likely to meet someone that you are incompatible with long term / or low quality/ immature than you are to run into someone that you are highly compatible with that doesn't eff things up from the jump due to their issues .

[@AC-ih1dr]

@wILL So adult males conveniently have no agency and its up to women to become Ms.Cleo with a psychic hotline for intentions.

[@mynoseisdirty1250]

@@AC-ih1dr you contradicted yourself, if men don’t know how to court how are women not realizing he’s a fuckboy till it’s too late like you said. It can’t be both, you want to absolve all blame on women’s selections.

[@cliffordmartin3303]

If you’re experienced, you understand that “double texting” is not pride & ego... Either he/she wants to meet or they don’t! It’s Black & White, no gray areas..

[@ShaySade]

Clifford Martin The issue is not the double texting, the issue is a power struggle. So what if you double text someone, what matters it’s how they respond when they do. If they act stuck up about it or feel like they can play you, then you know that person is full of B.S. As for me, I’ll double text sometime to give someone the benefit of the doubt or just to see if they on game. If they get big headed about it, I know they’re full of sh*t and have a predatory nature about them.

[@gabbirising4680]

True! I tell men I like from jump call and text me as much as you’d like. 🤷🏽‍♀️ & I proceed to do the same.

[@cliffordmartin3303]

ShaySade I agree with u. But life is a risk, your intuition doesn’t lie after a few interactions with a person. Either they will pursue u or they won’t. Now if they have a situation they’re going through and tell u while being believable, that’s ok 😇.

[@cliffordmartin3303]

Gabbi Rising amen 🙏🏾

[@ZimMill]

Best Segment/Discussion They Had In A Minute. Y’all Should Do More Of This Shit Fr

[@paidbum]

rory was hittin 3s like clay on this one!

[@sidneyevans216]

Dating has always been interviews for sex. The difference now is that it's a stronger possibility it wont end in a relationship. But let's not get it twisted, ppl have always been promiscuous.

[@webbie1891]

Dating is similar to drinking from the same bottle at a party

[@anmolmishra703]

errbody hittin it

[@elsapadilla2897]

Damn that's true though lol

[@jpolimus]

That just made me sick 🤢

[@seandafny]

Ewwwwwwwwwwwww i never felt so thankful to be a lame lbs

[@Quetzalioshun]

Maybe there’s just too much narcissism in this society 🤔🤔

[@russelfrancis6475]

Society it self is a narcissistic factory and most of us are the products of this fucked up society bro. The rabbit hole goes deep.

[@anisebae2652]

Realest comment on here

[@PlayfulJoyful]

Jenny Batres exactly

[@ralphwillems2274]

The reason you don’t double text isn’t because of ego, it’s because obviously the female doesn’t value you enough to reply, so why invest even more time and effort into something with diminishing returns if any at all.

[@mannydestine2994]

Ralph Willems exactly

[@mardank6964]

In my experience people just ain’t shit. The difference is as a man I peep real life game and look from within, plenty of times I had to let life humble me. Most women don’t have the self awareness I have, they lack real substance, they lack humility

[@dutchb.l.d4704]

@Rebecca You kinda prove his point. When women say anything about men, no one hesitates to agree & no one calls her sexist. But if a man explains his experience he's sexist & misogynistic. Women are mostly emotional, when it comes to dealing with shit that can hurt your ego, you ignore it. Little to no self awareness

[@TopFlightSecurity415]

@Rebecca no hes right, i wont say all women but most have terrible self awareness... most women think they have no flaws or if they do they make us men deal with it or we're not "real men"

[@mardank6964]

Rebecca I was actually going to respond to you with a well put together answer but I’d just be wasting time and energy. Stay up Rebecca

[@mardank6964]

Rebecca my first sentence literally says in my experience. No matter how you feel about what I said you can’t change my experience

[@mardank6964]

Rebecca and that man never said you were sexist lol.

[@shamoney5846]

This is the major reason I watch/listen to this Pod.. Male point of views and the jokes

[@joshuafrancois5362]

in today's generation....dating is out the window...it's all about sex...sad but true 🤷‍♀️

[@epakerd]

Joshua Francois it’s fun

[@epakerd]

S unfourthnately their will always be a simp thst will be willing to marry no matter your past. Ex: Jenna Jameson

[@indiaxlovee]

epakerd and if they don’t marry women women don’t care bc women can provide for themselves now

[@user-nq6um4bs5y]

S men are such hypocrites, u do exactly the same but it’s ok

[@anissa2361]

@@harorider96 What about men who sleep around are unmarriagable, why is I always women are unmarriagable?

[@marc07112]

kids are baggage

[@PamphileJonathan]

That's right!

[@unusedname197]

Spit that truth

[@BlackTrunksPodcast]

A BURDEN!!!!

[@Gene_Herring]

"Sex is not worf it here!!!" - More and more this is big facts...

[@epakerd]

Gene Herring sex ain’t worth what?

[@MK-sd8no]

It's true. Dating now has nothing to do with getting to know the person. It's just about what and how much they can do for you.

[@RnBkeyz]

But isn't that why people got married? So a woman could be taken care of and take care of the man's house and or kids?

[@amber-simoneingram7608]

Joe forgets that maybe he meets all these "looney" crazy women because that's what he likes. It's what he's attracted to

[@thebotfather9508]

in women's mind its always the man's fault. no accountability.

[@EagleZtoTheGrave]

@@thebotfather9508 And a lot of guys take advantage of it, both making the problems worse than it needs to be. Stop messing with these unaccountable women and they'll be forced to change their ways.

[@thebotfather9508]

@@EagleZtoTheGrave sorry. thats not how women work... AWALT.

[@ruebascu]

@@EagleZtoTheGrave has nothing to do with men

[@absurdh3ro]

i don't think he has time or patience to pursue a better quality partner. something you need ALOT of.

I hate when woman try to lecture men on how to be men. ( Lady London freestyle ).

[@tamaraminer2460]

I get dat, but they be on here telling us females about ourselves ALL the time. U tired of dat too? Just asking🤔

[@Dewane1511]

@@tamaraminer2460 wrong... women have ALWAYS had an outlet of support when it involves their feeling wither right or wrong or just to get things off they chest . Men don't have outlet to just talk about shit right or wrong. For the most part their is NO empathy for men in this society. When men tell the truth about women it's ALWAYS looked at as misogyny...when women say whatever about men it's not looked at as hatred . This podcast and just niggas really just kicking it and talking about life and what they think about it ...the barbershop talk amongst men anit made for women .

[@tamaraminer2460]

@@Dewane1511 I can see how u might feel dat way. Check me if Im wrong, but many men dont express their innerselves openly. So is it womens fault they express themselves more? Im the mother of 3 sons, from birth I intentionally had expressive conversations with them so it wouldn't be so foreign for them to do it. Im open to ur input since I can only speak from my perspective.

[@tamaraminer2460]

@@Dewane1511 And for da record Ive been addicted to this podcast since episode 1 wit Marissa. I think if mo women took the time to LISTEN to men's talk instead of what they think men talk about there would be a better understanding

[@mr.j9103]

Tamara Miner The reason men don’t do it often is because of how often that gets used against us. Men get killed(rightfully so) if we embarrass women with secretive info but it’s comedy when women do it to us so many men respond by not speaking feelings. This is also why many men value women who don’t gossip and tell all their business to their friends. Trust me we love women who we can trust and have those conversations with, it just ain’t easy to find. And with you having 3 sons, give it some time, you’ll see what I mean.

[@nicolegardenia468]

If everyone would seek God they wouldn’t have this problem.

[@ALT3REDB3AST]

😩

[@nicolegardenia468]

Action Potential15 The most high God the good God and if you don’t believe in your higher power sorry for you.

[@nicolegardenia468]

Action Potential15 well if you stand for nothing you’ll fall for anything.

[@BlackTrunksPodcast]

The Most High

[@SD-ci6kz]

@Action Potential15 You know the source goes by many names.

[@cddupre]

In my relationship I don't want to drive, I could if needed to but my husband drives our household

[@samiilevi810]

Clarissa Dupree wat u mean drive the money bank or the car

[@guershondorismond271]

He needs to drive you to a place that can help improve your writing.

[@cddupre]

@@guershondorismond271 loser. You took the time to write that? 🤔 LOL.. SAD

[@jahnelss]

Being a Virgo like Joe, that's the way we are wired. And we would rather be alone then to have to go through the gauntlet of what is basically bullshit. Jus keeping it real. Success, empire, legacy. That shit Trumps everything else, and we will not sacrifice these things.

[@jujones716]

As a fellow Virgo man myself we get shit on a lot. I’ve came across several women who ask me what’s my sign. Soon as I say Virgo the instant judgement is seen and felt. I just chuckle because I already know the blame game those women are about to play. Like you said it’s BS, pure projection and deflection.

[@bonitaapplebum0088]

I know yall not grown talking bout "virgo men are wired a certain way" lol at a certain point every man should be focused on his legacy and happiness for himself and his loved ones and that comes with maturity. That has absolutely nothing to do with the month you were born.

[@jujones716]

@@bonitaapplebum0088 no one is saying that. Joe is a virgo just like myself and the other gentleman. There's plenty of examples where Joe's virgo mind and tendencies are on display. The topic(s) being discussed weren't "virgo exclusive" . Just the way Joe explained them were very virgo like LOL. It doesn't dismiss the fact I'm grown for noticing it. It doesn't dismiss the personal experience I mentioned about being asked what's my sign by alot of women. I don't live my life by astrology nor make any decisions based off it.

[@bonitaapplebum0088]

@@jujones716 dawg I've been listening to this show for years and whenever joe gets into his "my virgo brain" shit, most of the shit he says applies to me and I'm a pisces lol. I was really replying to the first comment cuz dude said the most broad statement about dating not being worth the effort and tied it into being a virgo. Literally everyone thinks dating sucks lol.

[@jujones716]

@@bonitaapplebum0088 LOL. maybe you have virgo somewhere on ya chart, my dad is a pisces and i have alot of his personality traits and characteristics. I totally get it. Dating is definitely becoming more and more obsolete with people wanting everything faster in their respective lives. As I grew/grow older I learned to appreciate a woman's non-sexual attention and energy just as much if not more than her sexual energy and attention. Even though idk you I hope you're safe out here, the world being bought it its knees with no standing up in sight.

[@RyanBugatti]

Things is, if youre dating, you have to break a lot of hearts to stay single.

[@mentalwealth4692]

I’ve couldn’t said it better than joe well said definitely spoke in volumes with that about how women gauge a man’s mental but use the 🐱 as a desired trait. That’s where I’m at mentally the 🐱 is desirable but the woman as a person should be the overall task in learning. And dating nowadays is a gauge at the bag u have and if she’s willing to put up with u to get to that bag. Smh I feel sorry for this generation of single ppl

[@redlionesv]

Facts

[@Dizzinator2114]

Thats because for millennia thats how we valued women and women know thats their worth.. though they don't acknowledge it. A lot of women do not have personalities they dont know how to get you... we get them, and it has always been that way. Our worth has always been about what we can provide whether it be money, leadership, guidance, property, security/protection, and etc. The only thing they have to do is offer the cat and be attractive to us, and they are even better if they cook and clean, and can take care of children. The dynamic has changed, because women are no longer our property like they once were, so we see women being more liberal in who they are, so they can be sexually free, and go get jobs, and have their own things, so if she has all of that on any level what are you here for? I reckon its because she wants dick, and if she can get love and the other things thats a plus.... its rare you meet a woman who just wants someone she can love and just be with him and only him these days. in a way there are good and bad things about this.. the good pussy is valued at an all time low, but on the other hand it has my fidelity, and loyalty hard to find.

[@aj-bs9hw]

Single ppl have no worries I feel bad for ppl who are desperate to get a gf and then ends up looking like a goof simping over a bitch just to get played

[@gtrevino2006]

She's not yours it's just your turn.

[@arielaava2102]

@Be The Change You Want This dumb redpill phrase, come up with something new already.

[@SD-ci6kz]

@@arielaava2102 why you mad about it?

[@user-nq6um4bs5y]

Be The Change You Want they don’t want ur loose saggy skin anyway 😂

[@rontalks8953]

@@user-nq6um4bs5y what does that have to do with his statement? Its still true

[@rontalks8953]

@D Goshay plenty married women out there cheating lol a woman gonna do what she want regardless of commitment..so the statement still stands

[@kevinumba6281]

Finding the "right one" is damn near a mirage in this day and age.

[@alexisking7897]

Today’s dating is whatever WE MAKE IT... Let that sink in.

[@amercedez9919]

Alexis King yesssss 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@boss4330]

You're just a pawn in a game that others control. Let that sink in.

[@revengeofthesynth5430]

Everyone who is agreeing and adding their comments in here, I see people like these on every place of the internet where someone says how today's dating is busted. But nothing ever changes, and it just keeps getting more and more empty and superficial out there. So I have to wonder if all of you have these thoughts, but as soon as someone new shows up in the DM or you see someone you like, then you just snap back in line with the rules of modern dating that you don't like, and you just play the game like everyone else does, and then come back to places like this and say how much it stinks. We need to start taking the risk of losing out on some people who are all caught up in the modern system, and just go in to new situations making our own rules for it and not having any care if the other person can't keep up and they jump ship. Because the chances might not be as bad as you think that the person across from you in your next situation might just secretly dislike the modern dating rules/system just as much as you secretly dislike it.

[@DavidMartinez-yh8di]

REVENGE OF THE SYNTH great post, you’re right

[@SD-ci6kz]

The problem is the ppl in the system lie to get with us because we stand out so much. When they dont have our self discipline or introspection. Then want to give us issues because we believe the best in them.

[@set85]

I completely agree! People complain about people being fake and only showing their representative when dating, yet they do the exact same thing. They complain about ghosting, but they ghost people too. They say people have ADD when it comes to dating, and yet they're all over the place, unable to stay focused on one person. I feel like people shouldn't complain if they are just going to participate in the game just like everyone else.

[@cookiegirl891]

REVENGE OF THE SYNTH facts

[@asuichan8436]

10:35 To answer your question Joe, you don’t meet a women and then work on your jadedness. You work on yourself first and then the women will come to you.

[@MegNotTheStallion]

I've been with the same man for 8 years. We got together when I was 19 and he was 18. We had the mindset that as we aged, we were gonna grow and change and every time we did, we fell in love with that version of each other too. Social media has made it hard to date and hard to be in a relationship. For the first few years, my man was terrified because people had no respect for our relationship and hmu anyway trying to get at me. He finally learned I'm not going anywhere and I'll always love him and he proposed in August. My friends told me to bounce every time we argued. They told me to dip when they thought he didn't propose fast enough. I'm glad I didn't listen. I got really lucky with mine. He never even uses socials or looks at another woman. So many people I know are lonely and unable to find a meaningful connection and if they do, they have people in their ear telling them to give up on it when they vent because the mindset is that you can always find someone else and there's always someone better.

[@geraldos9094]

If you’re whimsical and base your actions on your emotions...No! You can’t be in the driver seat in this relationship. Those types will tear your empire down.

[@Hawah15]

Geraldo S “empire” 😂

[@cpn5]

They have the same train of thought as the great Patrice o'neal on the Black Phillip show . Highly recommend it.

[@Dewane1511]

Patrice oneal should be mandatory listening for every man ....

[@AudioGAWD]

Most of them...

[@BigChrisENT]

Sounds like Joe and Mal need to stop dating 20 year olds

[@Wwattz]

There's a drop off point at like 32. Every chick below that age is really on the same shit. The differences between them have little to do with their age.

[@redlionesv]

Age doesn't matter its the same shit all across the board.

[@OEThe11]

@@Wwattz I disagree. I think the drop off are the chicks OLDER than 32. Alot of those chicks are really immature for some crazy reason. Maybe at that point it's more fairytale and trying to find their knight and savor to marry them.

[@BigChrisENT]

@@redlionesv I'm jaded I guess since i've been a relationship for 10 years

[@losgryfog]

the older the person, the more baggage, but people are having sex younger and younger, so that baggage is developing sooner than ever, it's almost like if you don't "catch" the right one at a certain time, it's over.

[@SeVinKru3ger]

"You can't drive" LOL!!!! Word.

[@physicaltherapyguide]

NAH!! that idea of when the right ONE comes along is BS. You have to work on yourself, work through your own demons in order to truly accept someone fully into your life and your heart

[@cookiegirl891]

Nyasha Malika yuppp

[@mannydestine2994]

Fax

[@louweez84]

This is DEFINITELY a some but not all topic...I’m in the dating world and I love it, men are into me for more than intimacy, we can actually talk about life, culture, consciousness, etc. Once you realize that you’re dating a reflection of yourself, I promise you’ll start wanting better for yourself if you’re not at peace ❤️✊🏿

[@saintkevinofficial]

I liked this explanation.🌹

[@mikesgarage18]

Once you figure out every chick runs side game on you, no matter what, it ruins the dating game. Luckily I learned this early... At 19.

[@omari7219]

Not every woman, I'm from London. I think dating is different in the US. The idea of having multiple dates isn't very common here to my knowledge.

[@gargoyliangaming6556]

@@omari7219 stop it. You Men always talking about this country and that country. WOMEN ARE THE SAME WORLDWIDE. There is trash everywhere, with gems sprinkled all over the WORLD.

[@bullrunfast]

@@gargoyliangaming6556 idk, foreign women are very different

[@MegaMaveri]

You could run the game back.

[@gargoyliangaming6556]

@@bullrunfast there might be a difference cuz of demographic location etc. The fact remains the same, women behave the same worldwide cuz the issue on how they think comes from feminism propaganda. Don't forget that.

[@_Palesa_M]

My mom got tinder recently. She's 61.

[@claytonpedro9770]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 that's wild

[@Mikewalk27]

Paul S I asked every girl that I met on tinder of I could see their tinder...every single one of them had 99+ likes.

[@celestegarcia923]

Palesa Molorane Your mom better protect herself from the wolves of tinder

[@louwil67]

Tell her to be careful. Tinder is no joke.

[@blancap32]

Dating today is not the same as before! Nowadays, dating is all about sex!

[@tainted1987]

Maybe thats what you advertise, or is it all you bring to the table

[@elegantcraftsbyangela185]

I can't do it

[@Togomei]

I mean you literally can watch pornography, solicit prostitution or go on apps websites blatantly advertising adultery all in your handheld device or computer

[@themanssj25]

Facts women really b selfish n inconsiderate of how men feel , most really don’t care 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@CR-ce5lf]

Because guys don’t care........

[@DeRussellMasina]

Women don't think men care. People are people, in a real relationship everyone feels when connected to someone!

[@sportslegend3601]

and got meg the stallion championing pimping dudes 😂😂😂😂😂

[@VersatyleMusicGroup]

Bianca Culpo this is exactly our problem. You aren’t a man you haven’t spend one day living as a man. So how do you know what men care about? We aren’t women so clearly since we are different we have different value systems. We care about different things and express ourselves emotionally differently. That doesn’t mean we don’t care because we don’t act like you or how you think we should act (which is based on a woman’s perspective) when we care.

[@bonitaapplebum0088]

@@sportslegend3601 entertainment. that girl in college she ain't no fuckin pimp lol

[@M360-w6o]

Drake- Jaded hits different though

[@monicadasilva6486]

I’m 42 and back in 2016 I became a widow so now I’m back on the dating scene for the last 4 years and it’s a complete freaking nightmare. I’m at the point where I think I’m just gonna give up lol dating now is so much different from dating back in the 90s. Love this podcast and love you guys ❤️✌️

[@DrGanja99]

Also this is why the Black Phillip Show should be gospel

[@d__1957]

Patrice would be a living god right now on social media

[@versatillion15]

D. Feminist would kill him

[@dantef4399]

Ahhh what they know! That man changed my life bro fr

[@JumpOffBiggSean]

Shot out to the black Phillip gang!!

[@eanoworro1028]

Patriece wasn't the best at making his points but his general philosophy is immaculate

[@trekirby8242]

If you are not dating to get married then what are you doing? Just wasting time which gives you this viewpoint.

[@jehwhite1582]

Who said marriage is the right thing ?

[@DieHardNapkinsGaming]

Jay white that’s the purpose of dating sir

[@Silverman216]

@@DieHardNapkinsGaming marriage was arranged between families, dating was for meeting street walkers, setting up a date to smash and pay em, hence PAYING FOR DATES. If you wanted marriage you'd get your family to find you a suitable wife that comes from good stock!

[@TeflonBarbie]

Yes exactly wasting women’s time

[@darrylgarvin669]

This is healthy. I think more men should counsel like this. It clears the air of a lot!

[@Goddessoflight-j4m]

Outside success vs. inner success...Everything is about balance. Ask yourself what is truly success? It's all about self-healing and self-evolvement.

[@shynepo6296]

I don't understand the logic when the dude with the red hair says that it is humanly impossible to be with the same person. I don't think you are ever with the same person. The person you are dealing with will always change even within the relationship. The focus should be always trying to get to know that person as that person changes. A relationship dies once the other party feels like they already "know" the person. You don't ever truly know someone because people are always changing.

[@ShaqDaddyx380]

Also, a lot of what Joe said was kind of narcissistic, in my opinion. Yes, I do agree that no person should be the creation of your happiness. You should be able to be happy within yourself and someone else can add to that happiness that you already have. However, you can make someone unhappy if you do some shady/fucked up shit, and when that happens, your partner should be able/willing to talk to you about it, and like adults, you both discuss the issue, why he/she felt that way, and how it can be prevented. Joe mentioned that the empire doesn't stop to talk about something for 2 weeks, however, it shouldn't take 2 weeks to discuss an issue. Honestly, it shouldn't take more than 2 days lol. You listen to how the other person is feeling, you validate their feelings, and you work on not trying to do it again. Simple. Honestly, you're wasting more time towards building your empire, if you ignore the issue at hand, and it just keeps coming back up, because if you do not address something, it always comes back to haunt you. Just get it over with. It's not going to be an easy conversation, but it's a conversation that needs to be had to move forward. "Do onto others, as you would like done onto you". If you want someone to validate and listen to your feelings when you're upset about something, you should do the same for the other person. Simple.

[@godschild8953]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾well said and I completely agree

[@aliiigxrl1587]

Rory has some really good points about all this!!! true love TAKES WORK and COMPROMISE!

[@mcdramabear]

More like this please. I appreciate these real talks

[@CGerJohnson]

“Listening to drake I learn things” if that ain’t the damn truth 😭😭😭

[@bambitazilla9464]

9:50 I literally just had this conversation with my wife. I asked her “I can’t carry all of this weight if you aren’t either” compromise & consideration is apart of a relation any intellectual will be in. It’s all or nothing. (& I’m a woman)

[@christian6455]

Dam

[@bboywolf]

That's the problem, y'all are both women...

[@ScaryToRemarry]

I couldn’t imagine dating in this day and age. Met my wife on Instagram 3 years ago and never looked back

[@agrant4701]

It’s Scary To Remarry Show well, look back and make sure there aren’t other dudes she’s fucking with on there. How you met her is how you lose them.

[@ScaryToRemarry]

S I hear you sir. Thanks

[@ReamDaDream]

Plus us men have to have principles. And stand on ten toes you have to have a syllabus for women.

[@thebotfather9508]

u sound like u been listening to alpha male strategies on youtube lol

[@ReamDaDream]

@@thebotfather9508 I listen to Stephiscold and him Elliott hulse Mike Rashid chris jones a lotta dudes.

[@ReamDaDream]

Plus I go by what has work me in my life

[@AudioGAWD]

After seeing enough women disproportionately want things they can't reciprocate, this is the way to go. I don't even watch alpha male anything and it is how I've handled these things the last 8 years. I've seen worlds of difference and productivity.

[@dalej.rodriguez9209]

Man at 41 years old this is the best clip I have seen from Joe Budden and dem.

[@brolow2358]

lol Rory stopped Joe in his tracks this time!

[@singularity1648]

Quite simply. Monogomous relationships killed the tribe mentality. Divided into different divisions and homes without coming together has weakened society as a whole and planted a false portrait of "Tradition".

[@talentedmrflowers]

🗣 Speaking truth!

[@Hawah15]

Good perspective

[@singularity1648]

@The 1995 Stoic love to hear a counter one day.

[@Ms_T_Perfectly_Imperfect]

Certain cultures are sill thriving with the idea of monogamy. Once you marry, rather than dividing, you multiply because your spouse's family is now an extension of the nuclear unit.

[@singularity1648]

@@Ms_T_Perfectly_Imperfect Blessed to the individuals that manage that feat. There are plenty of Sterling examples of success in monogamy. The issue with monogamy and it's inherent nature is that it breeds possessiveness without bias. The inclusion of the other individuals stated would be circumstantial, union of two into one to make one whole but it is still a possesive whole if not tended tentatively

[@dashamath]

You will be surprised to see women you'd think tht have high standard yet don't really understand the value of a good man.

[@rontalks8953]

That's majority of women g

[@hugues5703]

I'm jaded and I'm only 24 fml

[@remilane9206]

Same here dawg. Im jaded than a mf. And at this point i like being this way

[@Gene_Herring]

Yeh yal should be on "wound #2" by now.. hold on tho.. yal aint seen nothin yet lol

[@biggaleek5670]

me too bro shit crazy I don't trust nobody

[@biggaleek5670]

Gene Herring lmfao it gets worse ?

[@ohitzwavy7173]

been jaded since 19/20

[@coldblooded568]

I'm mad he approved that message like that 🤦🏽‍♀️😂😂 at 7:35 lmaoo Joseph Anthony Budden here 🤣

[@malikknight5503]

Dating in today’s world is messed up.

[@RadicalforGod]

People like the excitement of meeting someone new.

[@SWAGKINGSBD]

Mgtow 😂 , at this point I don’t even trust a chick to have my kids or wanna be liable for her. Call me jaded but I’ll take occasionally loneliness over a forever annoyance

[@jaioncebollero1168]

Easily

[@thatlovegirl12]

Trae griffin who hurt you?

[@SWAGKINGSBD]

thatlovegirl12 nobody I just don’t see what value a woman adds vs the risk I’m taking. Especially women nowadays, they barely cook or clean yet want a man to just give them money or be a sugar baby

[@CapnAkira]

@@thatlovegirl12 How do you know a person has been hurt by women? They've dealt with them.

[@Silverman216]

facts, MGTOW and SYSBM all day lol also for some of you who think MGTOW is incel, it just means no marriage, you can screw broads all you want but never marry or cohabitate with these broken hags

[@BlackRoyalty_]

I forget that Rory is a fiancé now😂😂😂 He been jumping out the gym lately

[@sportslegend3601]

been workin that vertimax fr 😂😂😭

[@MYNAMEISKLAY]

Dunking over Tacko Fall 😂

[@MYNAMEISKLAY]

Aaron Rordon

[@Atip4eva]

The number one reason why relationships fail is because people don’t share the same goals same aspirations and somebody has to compromise in order for the other one to get what they want

[@BlackBiker1017]

I agree wit Joe no matter how successful a Woman is a Man still gotta be a Man at the end of the Day.

[@haydotzero3372]

Black Biker1017 what did you mean by a man has to be a man? Basically if a dude is a liar or cheater, he still had to continue even if you happen to be dating a successful woman?