If you're gonna solo Vesper's Host, don't do it on a Hunter.

[@GeremyG]

Real ones watched Datto suffer live attempting this on Hunter.

[@AshenHawk96]

Me, a Hunter: "Well, fuck me, I guess."

[@TargetSniper365]

You had your time in the sun with final shape launch. Now it’s time to be the bottom of the barrel

[@Arctis326]

@@TargetSniper365laughs with how you can just use vs baton with attrition orbs then use lament for the final boss. Doable in 3 phase

[@exxy9931]

@@TargetSniper365we got ratio’d by the class complaining we were op yet said class is too dumb to realize how to play to their own strengths.

[@JasonNukeLegend]

Its actually not as bad as people say it is tbh

[@TargetSniper365]

@ lmao Copium

[@Kristoffoerin]

For warlock on 2nd encounter - Use rain of fire boots with wardcliff coil and song of flame on solar subclass. Song of flame provides same benefits as heat rises to allow two icarus dashes in a row. Keep using icarus dash to reload wardcliff. Run triple arc surge mods. Consistently was able to beat the boss in two damage phases solo.

[@TargetSniper365]

THIS. Datto didn’t do good enough research

[@CaptainFrood]

In addition, you can run Ashes, Char, and Eruption, and then get a single snap off just after the Servitor splits, and then go into wardcliff The ignitions will chain across all 10 servitors for the entire phase. Even with the huge DR they gave repeated ignitions it’s still a massive chunk of damage for no effort

[@gamingandchill4186]

Hynra video covers something for this. The free double I-Dash in SoF Super does not work with one of the glide types for some unknown reason, so make sure you don’t use the wrong one. I forget which one, but he mentions and shows it

[@gamingandchill4186]

@ after the first two ignitions, no not really. My friend tried chaining ignitions, and the damage after like 3 of them was locked at 224

[@CaptainFrood]

Sure, the damage of each ignition on each target eventually drops really low But there are 10 targets igniting, and each one hits 10 targets, so the first chain set of ignitions does 100 ignitions worth of damage. The second set does another ~40, and the third set does another dozen or so. Not bad for one snap Even after it falls off completely, each round is still 10x10x0.03=3 times the damage of chaining ignitions on a regular boss without DR

[@Hi_Im_Saber]

As a Hunter main who did SF this, what ended up working for me is playing in a more active and offensive role rather than defensively. Playing defensively meant too many damage phases which meant I was exposing myself to more outcomes of dying. I know people recommend Lost Signal + Anarchy but you should take this a step further and grapple punch the boss to apply Unravel and Ascension to easily apply Jolt. Both of those will help with passive damage but also in feeding you Super + Transcendence energy because you should be pushing for 3x activation on both of those.

[@eugenehavens]

You're wrecking the pity party around here. :) Thanks for sharing that offense can be the key to this.

[@EdenPorterMusic]

Yeah, barrel-stuffing Puppeteer is extremely practical and it’s honestly easier to dodge the lightning strikes when the platforms are clearly separated instead of a bunch of overlapping strikes on the main platform. Also, Hunters get to stick to golden gun for prismatic super which means orbs = Restoration.

[@whoisthis4948]

Seriously people need to stop crying about other classes in PVE and get good. I solo flawlessed on all 3 characters.

[@eugenehavens]

@@whoisthis4948 Solo FL is the most impressive achievement in the game IMO. Always good to hear about players who do it.

[@Elamamalo]

@@whoisthis4948not everyone is you. This shit is incredibly hard

[@APolygon]

A possible (be it very scuffed and scary) strat for puppeteer on Hunter is to run Lament with a VS Velocity Baton rolled with attrition orbs. Put on facet of purpose with your Golden Gun super and you get restoration from all the orbs you generate. Idea being you tag the boss with Velocity Baton then swap to lament and get healing from both lament damage and your orbs. You can juuuust about get by focusing on the boss alone and mainly worry about repositioning for lightning strikes. This strat also pretty much guarantees a second super if you keep swapping back to your GL to keep attrition orbs going.

[@xxgalvaxcronxx4450]

A huge tip I have for Corrupted Puppeteer: When you're doing the prep phase, please utilize the SUPPRESSOR augment to DISABLE the Radiation Shields; but DO NOT kill them, as that will just respawn them again with Radiation Shields intact. Removing the Radiation Shields will make any clones coming into the Core Rooms far less of a threat to worry about. I got my Solo Flawless run completed a few days ago. Disabling the Radiation Shields were an absolute clutch play during preparation. Hope this helps anyone attempting their Solo Flawless! Good luck Guardians!

[@multiplepotatoes9110]

Good tip, I did this too

[@Neuloo]

we out here call that "defusing the bombs"

[@benshiperoismyhero9092]

I was doing this, but even though I wasn't killing them they were still despairing then showing up again in the other room with the radiation back. Not sure why, but I just decided it wasn't worth the effort.

[@xxgalvaxcronxx4450]

@benshiperoismyhero9092 There's usually 1 that jumps in but I'd rather deal with 1 Radiation Clone than 3.

[@Grassdia]

ngl had no idea the nukes could explode and you wouldnt die, that just made this thing 10x easier to complete

[@snergle3962]

graviton forfeit allows essentially permanent invis in the final boss bomb rooms, boss phase takes bout 7 rotations with anarchy (bungie please re-enable tether :/)

[@EngineeringDruid]

it is still turned off?

[@itskingcactus4618]

@@EngineeringDruid yes

[@dammitthatguy3107]

@@itskingcactus4618 classic

[@itsbooshie]

The big issue trying to solo the final boss as a hunter is I want to be able to do good damage, but I also want to survive. Those things feel mutually exclusive in that fight because there is no passive healing you can get with a hunter kit on its own unless you try Solar Resto and get solar weapon kills. And to me it just feels so sluggish and boring! The best damage ive gotten, without the flawless clear has by far been done with arc staff + star-eater. Having DOT soooo helps with this boss so you can focus on the clones.

[@realnoble676]

That’s what makes a flawless run different from a normal run, anyone could do flawless with trial & error, and a little bit of luck, but it will take a while because you have to play more defensive then usual. The only difference with this dungeon is it actually keeps you on your toes when it comes time to damage

[@ethanrapp6998]

Arc Staff being a potential play gives me hope for my tradition of soloing every dungeon with Arc Hunter. Thanks for the heads up. I'll definitely give it a try if Arc Spear isn't cutting it. Edit: Rereading your comment I think you may have meant Arc Spear as that's the one that does damage over time.

[@codyhaney5075]

Dattos Jokes per Minute has been climbing exponentially lately.

[@strawhat274]

If you're still struggling with brigs Strand Vanguard heavy GL rolls with deconstruct, which eats them

[@xthecre8or735]

I got an edge transit with sticky nades deconstruct and it chunks

[@toddelmsworth640]

As a Hunter, I’ve used Ex Diris, Hullabaloo, and Mothkeepers, on Prismatic with Ascension and Stylish Executioner. The moth kills apply an elemental debuff as it kills the enemy, so I can go invis, ascension is my emergency invis if lower level adds are around or a clone is low on health. Facet of Dominance means I can jolt enemies alongside blinding them, I get cure with Facet of Mending, and with Mothkeepers void moths spawn for overshield. I got a clear after nailing down a routine that took, admittedly, days to make work. Gotta be careful for being too close to the environment, enemies, stupidly enough Fallen Captain shots, and stupidest of all Ether Siphon ingredients flying towards you. The ether pickups DO count as physical objects, so bullets and explosives can come I to contact with it. I can’t tell you how many runs have been ruined because of that bs

[@benshiperoismyhero9092]

I noticed that when using the call to shoot Exploder shanks. Truly the dumbest thing.

[@snickerdoge4903]

I went through the odyssey of doing solo flaw on all 3 classes and ill just say this: Titan and Warlock took me 2 attempts with no optimization, hunter took me 3 days and i had to be locked in at all times. The difficulty spike really is hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby.

[@exxy9931]

Don’t worry, people will still say hunter is over-powered or needs a nerf because they don’t want to admit the class they play is optimized for hand holding/survivability.

[@snickerdoge4903]

@@exxy9931 hunter is very good *if* there is big low health enemy density, if not, then its really uncomfortable to play since most of your survivability is invis and dr, not actual healing

[@JustAFishBeingAFish]

​@@exxy9931no, if its disproportionately harder for hunters they should be buffed, just like us titans were. You don't seem to realise that titan mains arent these evil scoundrels that want hunters nerfed so that they can rule the world or something. The ideal situation is every class being good just as much as each other.

[@Marauders5]

Never doing it solo ever. Massive skill issue at the boss and i don't feel like sitting there for 10 damage phases to get a solo clear.

[@rubidium1948]

If you can just manage to get off 50+ grand overture shots in any way possible: cheese spots, running around and constantly flying, or otherwise, it should be a 5-phase maximum with the worst rotations.

[@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4]

This. It's not about the difficulty, I can do the first 2 encounters and get to the final pretty easily and can do a phase of damage with the boss too. I just don't really have it in me to sit though 8+ phases of damage where a single mistake can ruin that run in an encounter that has many things going on.

[@invoidker1049]

@@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 skill issue

[@Zerba-]

@@invoidker1049that is indeed what he said in the original post

[@sleepyboy__]

@@invoidker1049thank you for the useless input

[@justincampbell1213]

Me, a Hunter main, watching this…interesting…*will do it on a Hunter anyway 🤣

[@theredgamer211]

Small tip for final boss that speeds things up just a smidge. If you drop a clone, and it successfully draws aggro, instead of shooting it, you can successfully detonate the clone by dumping suppressor into the terminal and taking it back again (this also resets the cooldown on the clone incase you miss)

[@zhoutche]

For hunters struggling (I feel you), use Vendetta's "Solo Flawless Master" strategy for damage. After practicing that strategy, I SF'd the dungeon first attempt with 7 phases. Slow and steady, but by far the safest strat possible.

[@fastestdedman]

I can definitely agree with the tip regarding Integration avoidance around 9:30 as I've wound up being a victim to that mechanic on multiple attempted runs.

[@Atlas_Enderium]

I've solo flawlessed every dungeon and got this dungeon done the Wednesday after it came out (on Prism Titan the entire time). Best strategy I found for the red nuke room was Edge of Action (exotic Titan glaive)- the mini-bubble you pop down provides some sorely needing cover, healing, and an overshield, which is exactly what you want for that room. Just make sure you have ways to generate ammo (basically just Alethonym) since I was swapping to Cuirass and Anarchy DPS build for the boss.

[@ShmeatGoblin]

Exotic glaive mentioned, opinion accepted

[@glazedmarrow8344]

BIG TIP FOR TITANS: On second boss, pop transcendence nade on the servitors as you use your super. The grenade is what allows for more chunk damage leading to potential 2 phase if you are lucky, still a little more inconsistent but it can happen and at least guarantees a three phase. (Also use hail of the storm with the tonic for more damage if you don't already)

[@SamEy3Am]

Deconstruct is your friend for the first encounter.

[@immortalspear]

Parasite is an extremely good weapon throughout the dungeon imo, I always use it until the final boss Cuirass of the Falling Star with Prismatic is also a good choice for the first encounter, since it oneshots the first 3 brigs until the big one, you also have healing if you take Knockout, and you also have Consecration with 4 uses with frenzied blade Lost signal is extremely good for charging the Transcendece bar, paired up with a Heal Clip weapon makes your bar charge fast if you know what you're doing Yes, Riskrunner is a great choice for the Raneiks Unified fight, but I love using Parasite with Lost Signal and Heliocentric w/Heal Clip or Zaouli's Also Tractor Cannon is a great option for the extra damage for the Super Behemoth with Star-Eater and Hail of the Storm absolutely shreds the boss Also Thruster is good throughout the Dungeon since you can pop the suppressor bomb and then thruster away immediately

[@kujo7730]

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Mans is SPITTING 🗣

[@federal5842]

On my solo flawless for Hunter, I used (for damage) Prismatic, Stompees and Grand Overture with a Lost Signal (Auto loading + Unrelenting) and Solar Rocket Side Arm (Heal Clip + Incan). The reason for this is that 1. Grand Overture is a very safe option for dps if you don't have/are comfortable with Anarchy 2. Stompees while being an overall damage loss, are VERY nice to have. They not only help you move out of the lightning attacks faster, but they keep you in the air so if for some reason the whole arena is unsafe, you should be fine. On top of that, while you are in the air (which is a lot) you get 30% Damage Resist. 3. You do not have healing options in this fight as said in the video. With the Weakening Grenade Launcher artifact, you can tag the clones a few times with Grand Overture and easily finish them off with Lost Signal, giving you a healing boost when you kill the clone. Rocket Sidearm is nice to have just as a safety net, but I only used it once during my damage. Also said in the video, just do it on Titan and Warlock if you can, it is a lot easier and less stressful if you do. Unfortunately for me, I can ONLY play Hunter.

[@JustAFishBeingAFish]

Hoping you guys get buffs soon this sounds miserable as a titan main.

[@anthonyfisher2573]

Bet. I'm going to run on my hunter

[@sukimoro]

You don’t get it do you? Hunter mains already know, that will not stop us.

[@henrytate857]

I think it absolutely will stop most people who decide to stay on a hunter for this one. Hunters ain’t got hardly any regen on demand. Without that this encounter takes the most ridiculous difficulty spike I’ve ever seen.

[@sukimoro]

@@henrytate857 I Will say, i prefer it that way, i like having the heal be based on skill

[@kiane1337]

Don't fall in the room where you dunk the nuclear core. Took my scanner away and I couldn't see which one I needed to kill

[@AltF4erer]

I think the biggest tip is literally just patience and stay alive, if your about to die don't damage. If you got low health and nothing to keep you alive just cut your damage short. Literally just play your life and it's fine

[@lesliejacoby9137]

I don't have the mental fortitude to sit there for 5+ dmg phases. Its either efficiency or give me death (this dungeon is getting me to play titan lol, not that I dislike it just never got to it and I'm a warlock)

[@thessaloniousbadonkious]

Hunters REALLY need a way to get heals that (a) isn't Wormhusk-tier, (b) requires kills (especially melee), or (c) requires orbs (seriously, many Hunter solo DPS here *require* VS Velocity Baton with Attrition Orbs). They have zero true-neutral heals that the other classes do. Really hope this boss fight shows Bungie that Hunters really struggle in solo endgame content, and even in team content...just take a Titan.

[@HollowLox]

Use liars only 2 melee heal dont nead kills

[@MarluxiaKH0014]

@@HollowLoxyou can’t out heal boss damage with liars the way you can on Titan and Warlock

[@truv_]

i hope you dont get a lot of flak for this. i think this is big true, but at the same time i feel if they gave hunters some sort of neutral heal. people would maybe just play only hunter. again i hard agree with you, i just dont know how they would add it in a healthy way that makes other classes not feel “useless”. like maybe nerfing the supers for hunter dmg wise ? idk im not on the balance team.

[@beermeplease]

lol Hunters have always been the weakest solo class in the game. I have no idea how Datto is just realizing that. Also, Titans being the easiest isn’t a revelation either. Titans are easily the best class in the game and have been for a long time.

[@MarluxiaKH0014]

@@truv_ my main gripe with this, is that prism Hunter already has the worst supers damage wise tho so idk what more we could lose. Talking about the healer class option which is solar, solar Hunter shouldn’t and frankly can’t keep up with the healing of a Warlock and while I get that, solar Titan has so many ways to heal itself consistently that don’t require kills so why can’t Hunters also be up there? And with void, people say we have invis all the time but it’s not the end all option people think it is since it keeps you out of the fight, you’re not doing any damage while waiting to recover health in invis, and not to mention titans get controlled demolition as another way to heal when not using devour.

[@bad-temis]

I tried soloing the whole dungeon with ex diris on a hunter, first two encounters are completely possible and the third encounter is really no problem, except for the boss, they might as well have him wave a flag that says "fuck hunters" during the damage phase and it would have the same psychological effects.

[@timmybimmy600]

Thank you Datto for this video. I love your videos.

[@Jvggr]

A slept on way of combatting the radiation clones that I’ve not heard spoken about: Enemy ai manipulation, the clones, being melee types, will ALWAYS prioritize getting straight to you. (Side note this does require line of sight aggro which is confusing to understand) 1. Maintain elevational distance, don’t be on the same level as them. 2. Keep moving, even if you find the clone that has the nuke, DO NOT STAND STILL. In fact create distance from it, guide the radiation clones AWAY from where you need to be. 3. You *do* want to prioritize speed, however, speed should not cost you your safety, you have a whopping 40 seconds to get that nuke into safety. These little guidelines helped me get my flawless, I hope they’ll treat you just as kindly

[@kylerodrigues5865]

A small tip, when creating the suppressor clone, to auto-destroy it immediately press your grenade button and weapon fire at the same time which when done right instantly detonates the clone. Most useful for Raneiks to avoid its attacks and when starting dps.

[@ShmeatGoblin]

Was a game changer when I figured it out honestly

[@aurens.]

tip for suppressor: the clone doesn't need line of sight AND you can detonate it immediately when you drop it. so for the raneiks boss fight, you can drop the clone in safety behind cover, and if you hold fire while you drop it, you'll start shooting instantly. it will usually detonate before you're even done doing the animation.

[@anth3lion344]

Titans at the first encounter: Cuirass T-Crash can one shot the first three brigs and can take out the final brig when its health is about 2/3 or less. A knockout + consecration set up can easily net you your super back well before each nuke spawns, I used monte carlo for the regen + transcendence generation and a grenade launcher to weaken the final brig. Disclaimer: as cuirass damage is technically unintentionally high, I do not know if this will still be viable IF and when bungie addresses it. Also, if you're taking advantage of this episode's artifact, don't forget about the tonics, especially for the second encounter since one of them further increases the damage bonus to shattering crystals + frozen enemies provided by one of the perks.

[@jonathangillooly9361]

Proximity Ward on your class item is a massive help for the 2nd encounter. The overshield during a finisher from it is good enough to tank an exploder shank and is great for saving you from a sneaky shank or two

[@jordanmorales6251]

Hunter here. I found great success with Levi's + Void. It's a shame we don't have tether but I turned that into a panic button. SES with 6x Feast of Light and Spectral Blades is great survivability if shit goes south. You'll only die in boss room if you're truly messing up or got unlucky enough that the destiny gods were intervening to kill you. I started dps by killing the first two shooting clones with Levi's, then shooting the boss. Usually hiding around the back left behind the pipe stand/antenna. Jump to the right side and hide behind cover there if lightning struck the usual spot. Hopping avoided melee guys, Levi's stunlocked the boss preventing retaliation, all in all, usually don't get close to dying. Then, when the final clones spawned, I used a Levi shot to kill the one holding the bomb, then used the rest on the boss. If almost dying, pop super, grab orb, run to deposit. If not, just normal cloak, grab bomb, run to deposit. If things are going south in general, just jump in the hole. Not worth the death. If I made it to deposit nuke, I swapped to Outbreak and just shot the boss from inside my safety room. I never died during damage but I did die during set up. My first death was because I didn't have scanner and tried guessing but didn't guess correctly. I also usually don't deposit scanner and didn't have it in my muscle memory to go reacquire it. Second death was to richochet rounds. Turns out, you can shoot the #4 panel just right that it richochets onto a #1 panel. Don't use richochet rounds on your guns for a SF. Third death I died to traps. Something I was surprised datto didn't bring up is that the trap rooms are different based on which room you start with. I agree red room is worse but because the trap room is more dangerous. The angle on the first two traps is setup specifically to murder you if you trigger either of them. If you are EU and live far away from the server, by the time the game registers you triggered a trap, the ping will screw you over because you've already done one second of action into the trap you triggered with no way to respond and you'll die. I learned to just throw a grenade before making my trip, so that avoided all deaths from then on. Next attempt was a success. It is bad and I missed tether but I would ironically say patience is the better move here rather than playing offensively. Ye, you'll get it done in shorter phases but, if you're doing SF, setup will become routine. Prioritize life is better, imo. For stats: 6 phase 2nd, 11 phase 3rd, 3h 20m run

[@zachbelstra4901]

I love how much Daddo supports us in our efforts to defeat this game.

[@Nailfut]

I really like this Dungeon not being made for meta slaves. It used to be, mainly for boss encounters, either big crit spot->LFR or big enemy->Rockets. Here we get more varied encounters and strats and, as someone that did the contest clear and got the title, I still can't see ONE specific meta loadout to end all loadouts here. Only outlier is Glacial Quake and in general Prismatic Titan steamrolling ~75% of this dungeon imho. As a Warlock main and a Sunsinger at heart that has solo'd (with a bunch of flawless runs) each and every dungeon on Solar, this time I had to go with Devour. After a bunch of tries with both SoF and Well, I understood I'd be more comfortable playing aggressively, so I went full damage over time while playing for my life: Prismatic, Star-eater Nova+Necrotic, Lost Signal, Heliocentric, Anarchy. Both GL's dot+Poison from spirit of necrotic give Transcendence back in mere seconds and I was also able to shoot 3 Nova Bombs per damage phase, needing just 2.5 phases to finally kill the boss. It's way easier running around the arena and shooting your GL shots every 5 seconds: hopping around to avoid lightning is the real deal, boss and clones are just the annoyance on top and the GLs can do the job for you. Also, I avoided heavy grenade launchers because I didn't wanna blow myself up, lol

[@FrostReach66]

Second boss: Activate prismatic, pop suppressor clone, shoot clone, throw prismatic grenade, shoot parasite (or tractor, which I’m sure works, possibly better, but I never used it), then go to town with glacial quake (preferably with boosted hail the storm) and it’s an easy two phase. Even better if you can slip a consecration slam in before or after

[@ConZonsLand]

titan has been a blast for solo on this dungeon, that last boss fight is tough as heck to get dps out. the speedrunner build with Tcrash is actually a ton of fun too, but enjoy floating off the map and dying repeatedly as i have

[@Tsukidal]

My biggest challenge in this dungeon is my own short-term memory loss. I've already caused wipes with others from forgetting; I don't even want to think about trying to solo flawless this dungeon 😅

[@Firelord_Azula_]

👏WORMHUSK👏 swap to nighthawk, pop super then swap to wormhusk for the final boss. Pair this with an attrition orbs smg or velocity baton (i used a heal clip/attrition orbs parabellum) and you'll have no problem staying alive. Recuperation, facet of purpose and hope for maximum heals.

[@thefunny3320]

(after solo flawless) for any titans: A class item with inmost light and ALPHA LUPI (I know it’s weird) is the best thing to run for survivability against the puppeteer because you can heal a third of your health just for using thruster, which you get almost every 10 seconds

[@Remorse9.9.91]

Love bungie over correcting from TFS and making hunters useless and titans the most practical but ya know I don't see anyone up in arms about it so I guess it's fine 🤷‍♂️

[@Joseph-xg9sm]

So hunters are useless for corrupted puppeteer and titans are useless for the witness…sounds even to me :)

[@thessaloniousbadonkious]

@@Joseph-xg9sm I'd agree with you...before the exotic class items. That and the Still Hunt nerf (and now the Celestial nerf) has made them *much* more even in DPS, while Titan has an objectively stronger neutral kit. Even before this episode, they were like 8% apart for Witness damage, and now I think it's even tighter. Not a boss like Witness that's far away? Titan, every single time.

[@BirdMoose]

For extra survivability on hunter (or in general) you can use a non-exotic heavy weapon and run buried bloodline for devour, makes a big difference.

[@Khorou]

under the stairs in the red room is complete protection from everything, if you put op in the left fridge it will be in the thing right next to the stairs

[@oaxis8198]

I did solo it with karnstien and a glaive on warlock. Also just put on heat rises, even if you use speaker sight it will still plop a turret in front of you after you eat the healing grenade, and it just negates the entire premise of those evil yellow lightning once you float around.

[@Goose683]

21:50 every warlock knows that pain

[@ethanrapp6998]

I've soloed every other dungeon on Arc Hunter + Forbearance. Hopefully this won't be the one to break my little tradition. That final boss is probably going to be a whole lot of dodging and praying when I do attempt it though.

[@nilesj.4117]

I know not everyone likes unbreakable but ill note for titan buds, it fully tells explosive shanks to fuck off in my experience, just make sure to switch weapons so you can conserve some grenade energy unless ya really wanna blast

[@gommyboi380]

I would like to hear how the guardian games heavy wave gl does on this boss, it seemed to have WAY better damage rolls.

[@polarisangel6154]

5:16 I imagine a hullabaloo would probably work as well with a T-crash cuirass titan or a gathering storm raiju's hunter

[@fintiniganlucille5547]

t crash can split the servitors far apart so it's better to use behemoth

[@monkeyconvoy3097]

!!PSA!! There is a bug if you stand too close to the bunker door once u deposit the nuke to extend the boss damage you will insta-die to the wave. It seems to kill u fairly fair away from the door so I would stand by the nuke deposit until the wave passes, then run up to the door before it opens as to lot loose sweet dps.

[@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4]

Me as a Hunter main since Forsaken and not having any of the other classes geared at all with armor or exotics: "Oh great." edit: Whelp someone just uploaded a solo 2 phase with Hunter using Bastion and a simple Nighthawk swap just for the super. It was actually pretty insane how somewhat easy it looked. Except you do need a Velocity Baton with Attrition Orbs :/

[@JesusLadron-y3w]

so yeahhhhhh..... been a hunter only for 10 years so this is gonna suck.

[@petervalvo1186]

I feel that. Hunter main for 10 years but I’m dusting off the titan for this dungeon specifically because I just genuinely don’t have the mental fortitude to take like 3x longer trying to do this on Hunter vs how brain dead solar titan is here lol

[@JesusLadron-y3w]

@@petervalvo1186 i don't even have the other 2 and getting the right armor stats to optimize for this sounds like a huge chore lol i don't even have the exotics i needs. This is very late saturday night for me lol

[@bonefat21]

"And by 'on par,' I mean 'harder.'"

[@benshiperoismyhero9092]

Having solo'd it on a hunter, lament with attrition orbs on the dungeon gl is the way to go. Easy 4-5 phase and never had to worry about heavy ammo. The main difficulty for me was red room.

[@hayes4762]

Oh I'm doing it solo now as a hunter. Purely out of spite because you told me not to and I'm just an idiot hunter.

[@lostnemesis]

I'm going to make a comment on my thoughts on this dungeon, With a fire team it is probably the funnest dungeon I have played. Legitimately I think it was the funnest dungeon I played after I knew what I was doing cuz I went in raw dog with my friend and we just guessed a lot of things and we did great got to the final boss did all the mechanics but we need someone else because I was not going to do four DPS phases because my friend was only going to do 200,000 in two phases, As an FYI I play Titan the second time I did the dungeon on Titan I did 9 million damage the first time I completed it I did 6 million and that was fighting through ignitions because I didn't realize they were broken at the time, As a solo experience I hate this dungeon with a burning passion, it is really funny with friends it is the best dungeon I have played. Without friends I can't stand it because the second boss I agree I think it is a fun time the last one the health bar is too big you need to keep moving too much and it feels like when you make that little mistake if you don't use a cheese spot you just ruined it because now you know for the next 40 minutes you're going to be running this... I wonder if my experience would be different if I had anarchy, I just never got around to doing that raid and then Shadowkeep came out and I just left. (I didn't even have the ability to play it for a while I got the stuff pretty much before shadowkeep and then Shadowkeep killing my interest) idk it feels miserable when playing through it because it feels like as the health bars get bigger you should honestly have solo operator always active when you go in Solo. Because that would make it a little nicer, because they're never going to have the multiplicative difficulty modifier for dungeons so at the very least they could do that to make it slightly more bearable.

[@treeleaves1995]

if you are on hunter swap to stompees after popping gg its for the damage resist and you aren't going to be on the ground much anyways so it kinda feels like a no brainer

[@lostnemesis]

Honestly I think for the first encounter there is an even easier way to do it as a Titan, Lost signal, graviton Lance and a envious assassin or envious arsenal bait and switch grenade launcher, on berserker Titan because then banner of war will help you survive the torrent of adds, I pretty much only die when I'm using that set up from just trying to rush something, and because there is no enraged timer if you run out of ammo in your heavy for some reason you can just sit in the middle room for a minute or two using graviton Lance to destroy all of the enemies before you and you'll have Max heavy in no time.

[@lostnemesis]

I have never run out of ammo for my heavy, because I find this to be really generous (as in the nuke doesn't have the timer go down when you're carrying it and you have 60 seconds so you should be fine but try to get to the big brig with at least 34-35 seconds) you can just use your lost signal and graviton Lance to burst down the big invisible guys but if you want to get them done quicker you can just pull out the grenade launcher and you should have enough ammo if you're running at least one heavy ammo finder mod.

[@rainsong7773]

My toxic trait is that I main a warlock but sometimes I like to mess around on Hunter and there’s a cool looking glowy cloak in the dungeon that I want so I’m willing to suffer needlessly for it 🙃

[@destinykd12]

The jokes were all hitting in this video

[@GideonGrimmGaming]

Now I’m gonna vesper host on hunter even harder

[@TheRagingSpartan_03]

yea im good, i’ve soloed flawless everything in the game up to this point so i have nothing to prove

[@dallennixon]

Hunters, PLEASE consider Winter's Shroud for final boss over Specter. It synergizes with Stylish way better and grants 50% DR on use. Specter is great for getting ads off your back, but I'd rather take 50% less damage on a dodge than have smalls be distracted while the boss continues to hound me.

[@PastorJummp]

DR with winters shroud…? How? I’m not that familiar with it.

[@TwinGamer64]

@@PastorJummp If you manage to apply slow via Winter's shroud you get a 50% DR for 4-5 sec. Keep in mind applying slow any other way does NOT give you the DR... Would've been sick tho

[@xMystic-vn6fp]

Doesnt every1 uses WS over TS already

[@TwinGamer64]

@@xMystic-vn6fp Pretty much lol there is a lot more benefits in using WS, mainly DR, applying keywords, and gives back class ability on slow. With all the nerfs to TS It feels extremely clunky to use unless you run combination blow since the cooldown is almost double of what it used to, but even there WS is still superior since it allows a keyword to go invis + the stylish melee buff. TS only really see any use in PvP and with the nerfs to it's lethality (mainly removal of threadlings from destroying the dummy) I only really see it used on VERY specific occasions outside of PvP. Strand Hunter simply took another big L due to PvP.

[@Lockerus]

Oh he’s got jokes in this one.

[@felixamari157]

Bruh, 7:33 caught me soooo off guard XD

[@OneFastRaccoon]

haven't done it myself yet on hunter, waiting for attrition orbs velocity baton, but i saw a run here on youtube of someone doing it with velocity baton and lament, two sources of healing that don't require kills. offense is the best defense

[@spencerhuckins8197]

Man I still think boss health should be different on solo. I understand it's supposed to be difficult, and I have solo cleared every dungeon except this and ghosts, but I really just don't see the fun of a 40 minute boss fight. In any game. It's too long, and it is not fun. It's hard, but not in a way that is entertaining. Doesn't feel good to beat it, it feels like a relief that I never have to do it again. Doesn't make me want to keep playing. Bad design imo

[@Joseph-xg9sm]

I actually enjoy the mechanics of the final boss so this was the first dungeon I’ve solo flawlessed. Compared to the snooze fest that is ghosts it’s a breath of fresh air

[@killeratj.7025]

If ignitions didnt also do reduced damage to the final boss hellion+Dragons breath would have been perfect

[@TheTronmon]

I've started finishing final shape campaign on titan because of trying to solo vespers on hunter 😂 I feel the pain

[@DrewAlsup]

Been hunter only since day 1. Solo’ed every dungeon till now, and up to this final boss damage phase. It’s just not fun jumping around like a maniac while tickling the boss. I’d rather see 10 more puppets on the field than the one shot lighting all over the place. Gonna keep trying but not looking forward to it like previous dungeons encounters.

[@Hustlexz]

Ended up getting mine on solar Lock with stag and grand overture. The antennae nearby is close enough hellion will scorch, it gets fucking scary and you really gotta trust that rift is gonna keep you alive but it got the job done. Tried the tank spot and speakers well we used for contest clear and you just take too many random lightning taps there.

[@expoctme]

Honestly hard agree. I genuinely could not believe that Stag was actually good enough to resist it until I tested it out and was surprised at how easy of a 3 phase it was. This is also at tier 8 resilience as well so that should show you how well it endured it without lulling me. I thank the stars everyday that I saw Esoterickk’s video demonstrating that strategy or I think I would’ve still been sobbing trying to make the pipe still work and it being a 6-7 phase instead.

[@laggers54]

Warlocks, rain of fire, wardcliff, song of flame. Easy 3 phase

[@chocolatesalgado1912]

Has anyone tried to use Riskrunner with peacekeepers on the final boss? You can have infinite ammo and arc resistance with riskrunner, and peacekeepers gives it a good dmg buff. I haven't tried it yet because I don't have the dungeon key 😢.

[@clxxdxd]

Title is hilarious af

[@ShmeatGoblin]

I got it done on warlock without an exotic class item with the following: Encounter 1 - prismatic getaway artist w/parasite, song of flame super. Use whatever weapons you feel comfortable killing the yellow bars with (I used lost signal and mida mini tool) and make sure you go into the brigs with a fully stacked parasite. Encounter 2 - Solar with touch of flame/icurus dash, karnstiens for mechanics swapped to rain of fire for damage, parasite or wardcliff. Spec fragments for chain ignitions (ik they do less dmg to boss but it’s free dmg and helps in main room) and spam the hell outta heavy with rain of fire reloads. Pretty consistent 2-3 phase, 4 if you’re running slow with parasite. Great survivability. Encounter 3 - I have no pride. Cheese that mf

[@blackstreak02]

Summon Boner sword with Attrition orbs / Bns. Keep wailing on the boss and heal yourself. The Jolt Hunter Armor exotic for dank resist.

[@RenanTheBoss21]

Loved the Title

[@gamingandchill4186]

Imma Titan. I’m probably gonna wait till ignitions get fixed, and then use dragon’s breath with a kinetic slot GL for the weaken. Just my classic Solar build with Pyrogale’s/Syntho’s Swap with Flames and Sunspots. Or I might try HoIL with Prism and Shield Throw using a rally barricade as cover on the front right

[@greenlukesky4615]

Enjoyed this for solo flawless, still won’t do ghosts I don’t enjoy the dungeon enough lol

[@SnowZelli]

Try Stylish Executioner + The Call sidearm with the perk Slice for the boss room if you need to take a minute to recover health. Dodge to proc slice and then whatever you kill makes you invisible.

[@horrorfan1415]

Me watching this as if I’m going to try solo or the dungeon at all lol

[@Minth_aaa]

ATP: Nah, I'd win

[@cqrson8079]

I did this on like the third day but I like listening to u talk so

[@dankerbell]

i have to say i'm surprised hunter wasn't the easiest with how busted their prismatic is but then again i guess the corrupted puppeteer doesn't really allow for that to be optimal

[@daycejohnson]

It’s only “busted” if there are tons and tons of red bars in the encounter. The second that isn’t the case prismatic hunter is in last place compared to the other two

[@ugrena7419]

What part of their prismatic makes you say they are busted?

[@matthewradabaugh1635]

@@ugrena7419the assassins cowl, combo blow build. It makes you functionally imortal if you can 1-2 hit melee stuff as you get full health, invis, aoe slow, and either a weaken or a strand clone. All by just meleeing something. It works great for the first encounter, but after that, the build has moments where it falls off.

[@TargetSniper365]

Prismatic Hunter “busted”😂😂😂😂

[@thessaloniousbadonkious]

@@matthewradabaugh1635 Thinking that Assassin's Cowl is a good choice for that build shows how little you know about Hunter lmao.

[@chimpanzee0405]

3 phase on the final boss is very simple, not sure why he is making it seem like it's a super high skill ceiling strat

[@quill-j6s]

Once tether get's re-enabled, I am 100% attempting this using the navigator + tether setup. Feel like it would be way easier using that setup especially for any encounter before final encounter, idk if it's feasible to do during final boss damage.

[@mdp720]

I'm wondering if something like Void Hunter wearing Sixth Coyote or a stealth build could pull this off more easily just by staying unseen. Obviously Prismatic is going to be the preference, but if you have a setup where you can vanish constantly, and you're good at avoiding AoE, it might be worth a try: Drop out of stealth, fire off a big shot, vanish again, repeat.

[@klubbs617]

I tried soloing up to Raneiks. Did about an 1/8 of his health on my first damage phase. Then i went to orbit lol

[@TheFlyingDuckman21]

I used prismatic titan with assassins's cowl/snytho class item. Going invis was super helpful in final boss.

[@caskaronn]

I love and respect the fuck out of Datto, but man, watching him run and advocate for that doodoo solar titan:parasite strat AND him giving up on Hunter kinda feels like watching an older family member begin to slip into dementia or something. Our boy is, respectfully, falling off. We’ll stick with him nonetheless!

[@qazx1427]

What were you going for on Titan? I agree on Parasite feeling like a weird choice though Pyrogales seem like a safe choice, especially if you can't consistently proc Synthos.

[@Stormhunter117]

I'm shocked, Hunters are bad? But I thought they were gigabroken and Titans were dogshit?!

[@huntersmith4287]

Titans pks and manticore is reallllly good for final room you won't get hit my the bosses or the lightning plus you do around 7k per shot don't hold the trigger down the whole time so that way you can get the auto reload also you can build anti grav stacks on immune enemies

[@10slim01]

well played datto

[@JohnEasy]

Solar holster mod works either parasite btw!

[@shadowflamegxkryptic]

:( Back to the warlock I go.

[@dragonwren1893]

I do not have big enough balls to solo this 😂