Daughter Publicly Trashed Me After She Sided With my EX During Divorce and Cut Me Out of Her Life...

Daughter Publicly Trashed Me After She Sided With my EX During Divorce and Cut Me Out of Her Life. Years Later, She Tried to Crash My Wedding and is Now Demanding an Apology.
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[@MysticEle]

...Is it suspicious of me to think that the daughter is up to something? People possess the capacity to change, but exceedingly rarely do they do it that quickly

[@adrianflores7269]

My bet is that the daughter wants money

[@LunaP1]

She's already disconnected from reality thanks to her dad brainwashing her. She has already spiraled out of control the second she tried to crash OP's wedding. Even worse, ex is trying to gaslight OP when things didn't go his way (sending his brainwashed daughter as a rabid attack dog).

[@cat-con5849]

Something a harsh reality check and a day can set people straight to move in the right direction

[@callmerei]

I think it’s probably for inheritance, just the usual

[@robbierosson5574]

It all the depends on the person on if they want to change

[@sparkeyjames]

This is a typical case of a spouse poisoning a child against the other spouse. Entirely based on revenge with no thought to the child.

[@kinganarkzie]

Not at all, it is very easy to read between the lines in this woman's story and see that she's no saint.

[@Justin-A-Carter]

Everybody sucks. She folded like cheap paper as soon as she faced a little defiance ​@@kinganarkzie

[@adrianflores7269]

@@kinganarkzie What the hell do you mean? OP was the only decent human being in the story

[@adrianflores7269]

And the husband too

[@sparkeyjames]

@@adrianflores7269 You mean the new husband of OP James.

[@fl-ri-]

People do not change as suddenly as OPs daughter does. I would be very careful.

[@raythehomie123]

thats because they didnt change. they only either want attention or money.

[@kevinspacey5325]

I said exactly the same thing

[@mortaldao8044]

OP is lying. How heartless do you have to be to never ever reach out to your own child despite a previous temper tantrum. If situations were reversed you'd call him a deadbeat dad. Want more proof? She never even reached out to her own daughter over the years to say I love your or happy birthday. Of course the daughter was upset that her mum had moved on, because deep down she wanted the love of her mother. Y'all need wake up

[@fl-ri-]

@@mortaldao8044 She was not a child when she made her "you're not my mother. I don't want you" comments. I'd probably never speak to her again either.

[@darkknight3037]

@@fl-ri- then its a learning possibility for u. regardless of ur emotions, a person whos not fully mentally developed their behavior can be excused. ofc u can just ignore anyone but if its ur own child??? just because she said these things at 13 y/o? when i was 13 i was a brat to my parents. and like every other normal parents they treated me well and tried to make me good. im an adult now and i see their sacrifices and theyre the first person in my respect list.

[@unclelink]

If somebody told me point blank what they thought of me (and it has happened before) they'd never know me again, whether they apologized or not. If I'm not important enough then, I won't be important later. OP is too hopeful for a better relationship with her daughter. Daughter was coached by her father for YEARS! That level of brainwashing can't be undone overnight and will take even the slightest trigger to fall apart again.

[@MrArielK]

Op was having an affair

[@pyro7150]

@@MrArielK how can you say it? what in what she said showed she had an affair? stupid smh

[@katrose5179]

The kid was 13. Op had a duty to fight for her kid who was in the custody of her father that op says was incompetent. She was a shit mom, ex is a shit dad, and April was a normal 13 year old.

[@aparnathakur8239]

@@katrose5179 Did we watch the same vid or did you skip the part where op said she lost the case because her ex had a better lawyer? April always told the op she didn't want her as a mother when she visited her, what more do you want? OP is Human being, ALL mothers are human beings. They don't magically become emotionally immune to things when they have a child. Mothers CAN get hurt by their OWN children too.

[@bee-oz4tp]

@@MrArielKwhat are you talking about

[@minutemuse]

Unfortunately this happens far too often between divorced couples: parents using their children as pawns purely to spite their ex.

[@docchi500]

as a child who did not have to do chores, please make it NECESSARY for your kids to do their own chores. cooking, laundry, cleaning and theyre set to live on their own in the future. please dont make it so that its a "parent's" job. when they are able, make them do it. theyll thank you when they meet friends that cant do the bare minimum. please... especially cooking 😢

[@NeoLotex]

I was that kid and while I'd say that I turned out fine overall it would've made the transition a lot easier if I had been involved in the daily chores mroe.

[@SyndicateSuperman]

I have a 13 year old daughter and ever since she was 10 I told her we were going to learn life skills so when she's ready to start her own life she can be ready. On top of her basic chores like cleaning her room and making her bed, she has learned how to budget money, make shopping lists and comparison shop, do laundry and even learned how to sew. She helps me with basic home and car repair stuff. I couldn't be more proud of her than I already am. I'll still do everything in my ability to help her with major issues but I can hold my head up high knowing she isn't going to be helpless when she faces an issue.

[@DeadlyChinchilla]

She didn't abandon her daughter at all. Her ex-husband proved he was garbage by turning their daughter against her, alienating her as a parent, and weaponizing the custody situation. And a wedding after 6 years no contact is NOT the time or place to suddenly arrive and want to chat. You reconnect privately, not where you can make a huge scene, and trying to sneak in is evidence enough her priorities aren't straight.

[@MidlerX]

How old was the daughter when they broke up? I mean, if she was young i wouldnt put to much blame on her.

[@Business458]

A man would never win full custody unless the mother was bad and from the story she was cheating on her ex which is what women do when they dont love their husband The daughter was likely reacting to her mothers selfishness and not any influence her father gave her. A 13 year old is smart enough to know which parent is the problem. You can tell that she is the selfish one from the way she made all her decisions based on what's good for her and blaming everyone but herself. She chose to marry a man that she didn't love even though she might have felt pressured (she should have said no to his proposal), she chose to leave all the parenting to him, she chose to divorce him because its better for her not them so that she could hookup with other men, she chose to abandon her daughter after she ended their family and she has chose to let the daughter be the only one who is making efforts to men the relationship as well as take accountability while all she does is blame everyone else The ex husband is atleast trying to support his daughter in her being with her mum which is why he is confronting her on her constant rejections of their daughter That new marriage won't last if she is still acting on selfish reasons and blaming others for the consequences of her actions

[@Business458]

​@@MidlerXa woman doesn't leave a man unless she thinks that she can find a better one and a man doesnt win full custody unless the mother is bad (the ex also accused her of cheating ) Its more likely that her daughters reaction is justified give how selfish her mother sounds

[@dripkid.rocket]

@@Business458 ​​⁠ dude, the mother left because of how the husband and daughter was behaving towards her, even if this story is fake (as many Reddit stories are) I wouldn’t blame the mother for wanting a divorce as both husband and daughter were lazy self-centred pricks. If you don’t know the full picture it’s wrong of you to assume something (like one part cheating on the other), and I’ll give you a reality check: there are people that are just not compatible that’s married to each other, most of these ends in divorce as small things, like being lazy, becomes big issues that is just not going to work out. It’s funny how you wrote that “she chose to abandon her daughter…” as the story stated: the daughter didn’t even want to have a relationship with her, it’s hard to have some sort of relationship when one part is just not willing to have that, the daughter chose to not want anything to do with her mother; so the mother just accepted the facts and moved on. The thing about that custody battle was that the daughter and the husband dragged her name in the mud, so in case you didn’t understand what I meant: the daughter said that the mother was horrible and so on (and as judges takes kids thoughts in mind when giving custody, it’s believable that the husband were given full custody without the mother being horrible). Your statements are hilarious to say the least, how much Tate shit content do you watch? Because most women aren’t like that, and if you think they’re then either you’re delusional or have just met the worst ones. Open your eyes and grow up🤡

[@lillia2479]

​@Business458 First of all, are you a woman to be making that statement? Because you sound like that's the only reason why women leave men. Secondly, someone can completely lose custody of a child if the child testifies against the other parent. She was 13, not 5, as you've stated. Would you rather stay with the fun parent or the strict parent at that age? My own uncle had his daughter testify against him that he SA'd her. But it was her mother who told her to say that so that she could have full custody. If a child is old enough to choose, they let them do it. Period.

[@vaska1999]

I know a woman whose elder daughter also chose to be with her father when the parents divorced, blaming the mother for everything and making vicious slurs. The younger daughter chose to stay with the mother. Years later, when the elder daughter tried to connect with the mother again, my friend just could do it, she'd been so terribly cut inside by how the girl had behaved at the time of the divorce and for more than 10 years afterwards. Btw, the parents had divorced because the father had betrayed the mother by having an extramarital affair.

[@teamblack204]

Most daughters admire and feel closer to their fathers than mothers, so I imagine it made it easier for her father to influence her. I hope they turned out better though

[@smorphous8928]

Honestly the daughter brought this upon herself, she pushed her mother away then wants an apology, that’s pure entitlement.

[@LadyKurta]

Her mother abandoned her without saying anything................ That's why she was mad.... Bruh

[@TheBetterlife101]

​@LadyKurta what do you mean?? The child pushed her mother away and made things worse by making a post about horrible her mother is... she also told her she didn't want anything to do with her mother.

[@LadyKurta]

@@TheBetterlife101 her daughter was literally a KID. A KID WHO WAS MAD AT HER MOM CAUSE SHE LEFT, AS SHE SAID, WITHOUT EVEN SAY A WORD TO HER DAUGHTER. The kid was like 12 and OP started the video talking shit about her husband AND kid..... So she just got mad and abandoned them without saying anything.... They got mad OF COURSE they got mad. And she never apologized, even her daughter when she grow up apologized to her mom because of what she said WHEN SHE GOT MAD but her mom never apologized first for leaving.

[@cronchcrunch7287]

@@LadyKurtayou don’t get to act like a crap person and expect anyone to cater to you 😂😂😂 get over yourself narcissist

[@iloveu9054]

@@LadyKurta oh please... she was 13 then. She had 6 years to think why her mother was ignoring her or not speaking to her. Even if she was a little self-concious of her actions she would understand the depth of the situation, but she was over-confident and entitled. PROUD OF OP that she cut her off

[@coachtjp3]

I had to restart part of this because of the minecraft guy getting lost around the 850 mark 🤣

[@Bananapepperjoker]

We can tell who actually watched the video lol

[@shelby6]

Did everyone forget the part where she randomly moved out, didn't tell anyone, and then served divorce papere? She should have atleast told her 13 year old daughter what was happening, of course she sided with her dad because she felt abandoned

[@krobinson8692]

I don’t believe her. you can lose out on primary custody because your ex has a good lawyer… What you don’t get a supervised visits. They had to make a case that April was not safe being alone with her mother

[@VikingGamers1155]

Did you not hear the fact that April and the Ex made her seem like she was unstable? April made a post with lies about OP and made it seem like she was a bad person.

[@krobinson8692]

@@VikingGamers1155 so all it takes is a 13-year-old who is upset about divorce to make one post online and that determines the entire proceedings? Teens talk shit about their parents all the time.

[@VikingGamers1155]

@@krobinson8692 it obviously wasn't just one 13 year old, it was the husband too. And yes, in most cases if both the husband and the child both say that the mother was unstable more often than not they will believe them. They also happened to have a really good lawyer. Of course this is reddit so this could all just be BS so really just go ahead and believe what you want

[@krobinson8692]

@@VikingGamers1155 if you were arguing all this led to him getting custody, I would agree with you. But judges are very hesitant to do only supervised visits. I’ve known people who brought proof that their ex was doing drugs around children, selling drugs around children, bringing dangerous people around children and they did lose custody, but they still got unsupervised visitation. I still call BS especially since you didn’t even try to use the visitation she basically said my 13 year-old daughter is old enough to make the decision that she doesn’t want me and her life which is lazy self protective bullshit.

[@virtualatheist]

@@krobinson8692 Yes. a child (when coached) only has to make one accusation of abuse - usually against the Dad - and the goose is well and truly roasted.

[@tabetha757]

I'd like to hear the exact side. Kids just don't choose dad and trash mom.

[@zardox78]

And courts don't tend to just throw mothers completely under the bus on the custody front because the husband "manipulated all the facts". Supervised visitation only? While she gets the house, free and clear? It feels like there are some glaring omissions that can't just be explained away by "He had a _REALLY_ expensive lawyer."

[@sTas073-i1e]

@@zardox78 When children are older courts listen to the opinions of children (unless there is clear evidence of abuse) so when the child says she wants to stay with dad to the point of making a public social media post blasting the mother, the courts will listen

[@Sonic546416]

I’m sensing a shit ton missing, OP is spending the entire post justifying her actions but I’m missing a ton as to why the daughter hates her this vividly much, and as much as Donald can go shove a stick up his arse for being a horrible partner, the daughter hating her mom to this degree has to have more to it than one parent telling the other “Mommy doesn’t love you anymore”, at bare minimum this is fishy and I do not believe it. If anything I still have gripes with how OP left her previous relationship with just a note? Of course the daughter is going to be pissed off you literally NEVER explained your side of the story to her, from her POV she sees mom and dad one minute, and the next mom is leaving without an explanation. She was 13 when this freaking happened btw like what do you expect? Of course she’s going to lash out she’s just hit puberty and now all those hormones are gonna hit the first thing she hates, and atm that just happened to be OP. No I am not defending her embarrassing OP but teens get a slight more understanding!

[@OneidaGC]

I completely agree, she wants her daughter to be the bigger person then and now... Honestly she speaks about her daughter at the time of the divorce as if her daughter was an adult. The mother was "too vragile" to handle the situation properly at the time. Mother should have reached out sooner, she absolutely abandoned her daughter then fought for her for a little while then gave up.

[@ladyweasellou3367]

"...They would force me to do the most basic of task for them" Uuhh... These are your CHILDREN, don't allow that behavior to continue.

[@aleksandarvil5718]

James = BASED SIGMA MVP CHAD 💯😎💪💪💪

[@grahn3878]

Supervised visits has to be something bad mom did

[@KatVWine]

OPs daughter actively pushed OP away. Shes 13, yes, but she's not stupid. Her daughter blasted her mom with accusations of neglected/emotional neglected that ended up with OP having SUPERVISED VISITS. Even then, OP wanted to still stay in contact as much as she should. Time and time again, she rejected her own mothers attempt. Yall are saying 'she was abandoned!' No she was not, she was still home with her incompetent father when op left the house due to being fed up with the mistreatment by both her daughter and husband ALONG with being overwhelmed. At the end of the day, it doesnt matter how she left, she wanted a divorce. Its not like a switch happened so suddenly where op was like "i dont love my kid". It showed she tried but the more she tried showing her own kid that she still loves her, its heartbreak after another. She was heading to a downhill spiral. I know it mustve been hard for op to even hear her own kid "i dont consider you as my mom after ruinning our family". The daughter is entitled and became like her father, incompetent before the divorce. This will forever baffle me, how can one show no love for a parent who is literally doing everything for their kid when the other parent, doesnt lift a finger yet they are some how prefered??? NTA.

[@cototototorra7106]

as she said the ex was the ''fun parent'' which just means the parent that doesnt care about their kid, op was the actual parent, their kid saw their ''bad parent'' destroy their happy life and blammed them for everything

[@hentaiprotagonist392]

How entitled and shameless you have to be to push someone away, and then ask for an apology because they dont want anything to do with you

[@darkknight3037]

13 yr old daughter***

[@rameshlonewolf]

Still we don't know that valid reason to be uninvited (her mother may have cheated and showing her self as victim we don't know anything )so don't portray our emotions in this shit show just enjoy and learn what we can improve in our life

[@InopigandVee]

​@darkknight3037 yeah, she was a teenager still. I know at 13 I was a freaking moron. Does the op not know that our brains don't fully develop till like 25.

[@cameron765]

​@@InopigandVee I hope your comments sarcasm

[@hentaiprotagonist392]

@@rameshlonewolf if her mother was a cheater, her wouldn't ask for apologies in the end, so if u wanna go that route, u have to believe this whole story is made up

[@levimorne]

Y'know in stories like these I often say that kids should be primary.... but this is honestly the exception to that. April was a trashbag human.

[@LunaP1]

Though she is a scumbag, her dad brainwashed her and screwed OP over in court just to further keep her from seeing the truth (ex is a spiteful psychopath who isn't over OP and weaponized his own child to further hurt her for moving on).

[@milworks]

In one breath she says the daughter is just like the father and left them both, then tries to paint the father as the bad person. This is a situation where I’d like to hear both sides of the story.

[@sparkymarky211]

Just to put into perspective, at the end of the day her daughter was a kid. The dad likely manipulated her feelings, which were likely born from the fact that mom was always working to support her. The daughter was dealing with not having mom around for years, and dad manipulated her feelings rather than help her through them. Kids often may not understand why they're having certain feeligs and don't always understand the reasoning for things like this, and she isn't at fault for that specifically The real bad guy here is the dad

[@Justin-A-Carter]

This sad excuse of a mother abandoned her child. You didn't fight hard enough for a 13 year old girl. You don't let your husband decide "you're done bud!". And you didn't do everything in your power to have a relationship with april. You go back to court. You tell them that your husband's not allowing you to see your child. You get a court order visitation. If you have to do a court order visitation with Representatives around. You do so. You got a little bit of a bratty 13 year old child telling you an adult what to do and the first little bit of defiance. You folded......

[@LuckyPast]

It's clearly obvious you don't know what it is like how feels to be in her shoes she clearly Made it obvious she tried the best she could to be with her daughter but her daughter manipulated by her father kept rejecting her and also she could've been charged for trespassing and also she never blocked the father because she held out hope for daughter and probably many other things she couldn't include. You're likely an adult who had more experience than a teenager, and yet you're being berated by a teenager about how ignorant you are anyway I hope you realize you need to look at boths to see how the mother tried her best and how she helped her daughter relize her mistakes and yet after all her daughter put her threw she still chose to forgive her and is trying to rebuild a relationship with her daughter and which probably set her daughter down the right path of life. Yet I don't want to argue any further. I hate arguing with people because, for me, it's unhealthy anyway. I wish you the best, and I hope you can learn from other experiences and mistakes. And I hope this didn't come rude to you anyway again I wish you the best -Lucas

[@Justin-A-Carter]

@@LuckyPast you're making excuses for a terrible mother

[@LuckyPast]

@Justin-A-Carter I just found out the mother cheated on her first husband, so it makes sense, and you're right about that sorry my bad

[@Justin-A-Carter]

@@LuckyPast no problem. I had something similar happened to me when I was a kid. My parents weren't getting along. And my father fought tooth and nail to be in my life. Can I get very pissed off and passionate when parents just give up and roll over

[@canineatnight6026]

April is lucky her mother is willing to give her so many chance. Some people once they know thier child refuse to acknowledge them completely hut them off and refuse to let them reach out to them

[@urssoz]

Why so many "was about me" in this story? OP is definitely hiding something and seems like an entitled brat of a mom.

[@onebeatsongs9326]

I hate when parents do this do shit if you know your partner is manipulating your child then at 18 you reach out and tell them your side of the story then they still don't want to see you, you leave it as is. Edit: glad it had a happy ending

[@darkknight3037]

fr the dads a horrible dad, the moms a horrible mom. u cant really blame a the daughter because she was only 13.

[@MrArielK]

Op was cheating during the 1st marige

[@Maestrosendgame]

@@darkknight3037how was op a bad mom?

[@darkknight3037]

@@Maestrosendgame was she a good mom then?

[@Maestrosendgame]

@@darkknight3037 no answer my question.

[@itsharperoffi]

Well OP's biggest mistake was moving out without telling daughter the reason. Maybe then Donald wouldn't poison April against her she was 13 so she would understand, who knows...

[@cavey001]

S1: This is just one side of the story. Sounds like the kid is holding a grudge because mom had an affair.

[@MistressSuki92]

where'd you get that from?

[@Yellowbeing08]

If it was, the child would not want to evdn go the her mother's wedding no? Make it make sense dude

[@shanewoody4232]

Unfortunately we only have this story to go on

[@Alice15210]

If that's the case, why crash the wedding?? The child should leave the mother alone!!!! For good!!!

[@Alice15210]

@@shanewoody4232 nah if the mom did cheat then child would have stayed away for good. These people don't have peace in their lives

[@onebeatsongs9326]

Lol she definitely left out some key details to paint herself in a better light but i glad it had a good end ig

[@nicoleabdi9631]

yup she cheated when she said she fallen out of love before the marriage that isso part sus to me

[@evil5423]

​@@nicoleabdi9631what

[@managier1592]

The post tells me she's leaving alot untold.... The true reason of the devorse and why she didn't try after

[@nkarma_]

​@@nicoleabdi9631 if OP cheated, then I doubt the daughter would want anything to do with her. Her ex- husband could have also cheated, we do not know.

[@MrArielK]

@@nkarma_ex stayed while mom abandoned a 13y child

[@juanvilas8509]

If I was told I was a terrible "Father" to my kid that wanted nothing to do with me not even considering me his father and this happened, I would of just laughed at their faces. I mean, they are strangers to OP.

[@miguelarias5193]

"Your not my mom so leaving me alone..... Mom it's your wedding and I'm your daughter don't be selfish"

[@artemislove2941]

i do hope that Aprils good behavior does actually continue and she doesn’t slip back into her old pattern

[@dannihenson3420]

What 6 years... So her daughter was 13 when she "pushed away her mother" and now April is the terrible person. Wtf. Do you know how many , especially divorced, parents that are "hated" by their teens. And than you decide to drop a preteen because she mad at you.

[@allisonreed3420]

I think the bigger issue is the way she acted at 19, when she should have known better. She was still acting entitled and tried to crash her mother's wedding instead of reaching out and trying to reconnect. It was a BS move.

[@demonic_myst4503]

Stfu their massive doference between 13 ywar ankst and selfish bitch levels of actual hate , she was a shitty person And u cant force a relationship 13 is old enough to cut off contact hell 14 in basicly anywhere but america where 17 year olds are treated likc 9 ywar opds , are aloudnto pick where they want to live

[@stefonrich9828]

This is a truly one sided story that doesn't really make since. The OP is only justifying herself and at no point ever says anything she did wrong, I truly think she's just omitted facts out the story to paint herself in a better light

[@CoryInTheHouseThatsMe]

Donald said James had no right to kick April out because it was the mothers wedding. Hello, it was also James wedding so he has all the right to do so. Muppets

[@rogermortis6583]

TBH based on the trickle truths of this story she does indeed seem like an unstable and selfish person, and a terrible mother.

[@julianzamora6837]

U would think so until ur in that situation. But u would need to justify urself because that’s what every does right?

[@darkknight3037]

@@julianzamora6837 id wait till my daughter is 18 lol

[@_rune]

@@julianzamora6837instead of communicating how she felt about her marriage to her husband before it even got to the point of wanting a divorce, she let all the emotion build up and just up and left her husband and daughter then filed for divorce. that’s fucked up, childish, and irresponsible as a parent

[@Pi-is-Bi]

I feel like she omitted details to paint herself in better light

[@onebeatsongs9326]

@@_rune that's what I was thinking imagine if the genders were switched everyone would say he's a dead beat and how he could take a child's word as law

[@warsongAro]

Sounds fake, you don't abandon a child even if she aks you too

[@merlincontemplation]

OP is the AH. She didn't take action to prevent her kid from being like her ex but decided to focus on another dude. Your ex is correct.

[@babydawley]

‘I don’t want people thinking I abandoned my daughter’ Well ma’am, you abandoned your daughter. Multiple times. Stop avoiding accountability. YOU ARE THE PARENT. Lead your child.

[@SarahLovesBoobahandErEr]

Major red flag how OP wanted the daughter to ‘be on her side’ after the divorce. That’s completely unhealthy. All of them sound awful.

[@anonymous11599]

Be careful shes got an agenda

[@ianimations1656]

That ending was so fake. Real people don’t understand or acknowledge their mistakes, they double down. And the ones that could get so gaslit and manipulated throughout their lives that they all become the type of person that hurt them themselves.

[@eraofentirety]

My guy that belief does you no good. People have the ability to show true contrition, or we would be an utter mess of a species

[@mihneacireasa4613]

Some people do actually own up to their mistakes. It's just that people like her daughter never do, so there's definitely something fishy going on

[@MrArielK]

@@eraofentiretythere is this thug called main character syndrome...

[@adamdeforge6884]

Sounds like mom failed her

[@spoof2062]

Yeah OP definitely shouldve tried more to keep contact but the daughter was definitely planning something

[@xevira]

Exactly *how* should OP have tried harder to keep contact? The brat daughter wanted absolutely *nothing* to do with her. The Ex was blocking her attempts. At some point you have to realize that you are wasting your time and stop. That's exactly what OP did. No amount of additional effort on her part would have made a difference at the time.

[@katrose5179]

@@xevirayeah I’m gonna say op left some things out. But a 13 year old is going to be one. And op abandoned both the kid and her ex.

[@Justin-A-Carter]

​@@xeviraLOL how do you fight for visitation? Exactly that you fight for visitation. You don't leave the court system alone. As soon as this woman felt a little resistance. She was like " yeah I tried lol see you later, i am a victim here!" Reeee

[@Itzspooker]

@@katrose5179abandoned is stretching it. If you were in the situation and you’ve tried multiple times to reach out and only get to see your child 2 times in 6 months what would you do. Me personally I’d be upset that I barely get to see my kid but I’m not fixing to keep pushing if they don’t want to see me🤷🏽‍♀️

[@sTas073-i1e]

@@Justin-A-Carter her lawyer literally advised against it

[@_rune]

op is the AH when it comes to how she divorced her first husband. she could’ve communicated her feelings like partners do instead of letting all that emotion build up to the point of wanting a divorce, and then moving out, leaving her husband and daughter without saying anything 😃

[@Alice15210]

Lol I don't think she just up and left. Chances are she talked and talked and talked but got ignored. No one just divorces their spouse without communicating

[@stormb8433]

Thank you lol but she's a woman so everyone will find excuses for her

[@dumbidea1007]

@@Alice15210she literally said she did

[@onebeatsongs9326]

@@Alice15210 she literally said she just left lmao. Are you her on a alt account?

[@MrArielK]

@@dumbidea1007op had an affair

[@kennycai8695]

OP is NTA, but I kind of think she is too naïve to expect her daughter to have an immediate change of heart. Plus, I have to wonder what compelled OP to marry her ex in the first place, cause the way she described him, he's definitely a textbook narcissist, and the daughter is an extension of his narcissism, since these people really love turning others (especially offspring) into their personal "mini-mes". I get the daughter is OP's own flesh and blood, but that is a lot of emotional damage inflicted by her actions. Her trying to crash the wedding, I am pretty sure she was manipulated into it by the ex, cause another trait of a narcissist is them not allowing their opponents any respite. My only advice for OP is to be very careful. I have a hunch the daughter is reaching out for benefits, or the ex is again using her to sabotage OP's happiness, cause knowing narcissists, they can be very patient with springing their traps. Always keep your guard up, that's what I say.

[@kinganarkzie]

How is he a narcissist? She left him because he has no future career prospects. Bear in my mind that you're reading her account of events and she seems to paint herself as a victim of everyone while taking zero responsibility for the impact of her behaviour, do you not think that just leaving your daughter without saying a word one morning is going to hurt a her kids feelings and that this 14 year old might lashout after being abandoned?

[@sophiaisabelle01]

Seems like there's something going on between the two of you that needs fixing. I guess you'll be able to figure things out eventually. It only takes a matter of time.

[@managier1592]

Something tells me the op is at fault here

[@yamairad1]

She left the house to file for divorce. The house where the kid lived. So, in essence the kid woke up one day mom was gone. A loving mother doesn't do that. I have no doubt that OP was overwhelmed and I wouldn't be surprised that dad was useless. But, she (by her own words) mainly raised April because dad was useless. Then why was she so spoiled? Maybe, she was just a normal needy 13 year old and OP blew it out of proportion because she wanted to live the single life?

[@malikwillis05]

What makes you say that?

[@UNITED-STATES-OF-MURICA140]

The father was a deadbeat. I think she did the right thing In leaving

[@katrose5179]

@@UNITED-STATES-OF-MURICA140nope. That means it’s a right thing to leave the father. Not to leave her daughter.

[@colossalko]

​@@katrose5179 in her own words: She moved out to file for divorce without telling anyone. (aka abandoned her child). Despite this, she still got the house in the divorce. Daughter had to pack up and move. Kids don't just pick sides for no reason. Especially not the parent of the opposite gender. If this story is true, OP most likely omitted details that would have made her look like the worse parent in the daughter's eyes. It's damn near impossible in most US states to get primary custody as the man, let alone full custody. a woman could be on drugs and/or unemployed and still get 50/50 custody at worst as long as she's the primary caregiver. Divorce does not make someone refuse to speak to their parent for 6 years. OP doesn't show any perspective besides their own. Doesn't go into too much detail how daughter is like father. This is so one-sided you couldn't begin to judge this until you hear the daughter's perspective at least. None of these people ever admit when they were having an affair. This would happen to make sense of many of the actions that happened to the OP from the family.

[@SuleymanOsman]

NTA Op has been put through the emotional wringers. If I was OP i would literally slap April back to reality for her antics.

[@LadyKurta]

She abandoned her daughter and husband without saying shit and then expect they don't be mad and that's why they cut her off... But ofc her daughter still wanted her mom, she was just mad. Op is literally in fault here

[@SuleymanOsman]

@@LadyKurta maybe you need to watch thr video again. Op didnt abandon her daughter. Her ex and the daughter plainly stated they didnt want her in their lives.

[@LadyKurta]

@@SuleymanOsman nah bro. Didn't you see that after she finished talking shit about her ex and daughter being like her father, she said she just got tired of it and LEFT THEM without saying anything. That's how it all started, that's why her daughter was hurt and mad

[@TheBetterlife101]

Bro you need theapy. ​@@LadyKurta

[@samuelw4492]

@@SuleymanOsmanyea so if you kid tells you they hate you and never want to see you again in an argument you get a free pass to leave lol. She abandoned her child that’s all there is to it.

[@F40PH-2CAT]

When a man gets full custody, there's usually a good reason. I doubt OP is giving us the full story.

[@keegangunn1645]

Well they already said that facts were manipulated and the April herself made a FALSE post painting OP as a bad person, in today's society that's all that's really needed for one parent to get full custody

[@alicegrayson4787]

so you didn't listen to the way Donald acted ?

[@F40PH-2CAT]

None of this matters. Sounds like excuses. When the father gains full custody AND the mother's visits are only supervised, there is a huge reason why. Women have an almost overwhelming advantage in custody cases that no high priced lawyer(s) can overcome.

[@MrArielK]

Op had an affair

[@firehot427]

@@keegangunn1645that’s not how courts work. Lmao.

[@AlekzanderTamayo-ln8bf]

L daughter.

[@courtlandfarrington1648]

Welcome to the life of an estranged FATHER. Men have been going through this for eons.

[@TheSergio1021]

Did it ever occur to OP that her daughter stopped considering her as her mother because she ABANDONED THEM without so much as a notice? As a teenager, why wouldn't you lash out and hate the parent that vanished? Nah, just blame Donald for everything

[@allisonreed3420]

She did give notice. She was rejected over and over and finally gave up and put the ball in her daughter's court.

[@SaliouThierno]

Did you not watch the video?

[@kinosaga21]

If someone turns their back to you and walk out of your life, leave then there.

[@DukerGamerz]

Ok but I don't think the daughter is the one to blame. She was told that her mom ruined her family. Maybe she came to the wedding to ruin it? She was told the same lie for 6 years. She didn't know what the truth was. When she made the public post she didn't do it just because, she did it because she thought you were a bad parent. Maybe your ex told her you cheated and thats why she probably wanted to ruin the wedding.

[@Spawnofsatan97]

NTa sever all ties with her

[@LadyKurta]

OP is lucky her daughter did all the job to even keep im contact with her after she abandoned her without saying anything.

[@leazimridaniels8552]

I think ive heard this story but from the daughter's pov and people on KZbin and reddit where calling op a shitty mother. I knew there was more to this story 😂😂😂😂

[@M005T8R]

Link?

[@toxic_crusher2960]

yo send da link

[@onebeatsongs9326]

Link or at least tell us what U remember

[@MrArielK]

Link or you are lying

[@firehot427]

@@MrArielKhe’s lying

[@Bucketus.Lord.of.Buckets]

Cry and cry all she wants. Claim manipulation and whatnot. You can say "but she was a kid!" All you want. Kids are not as dumb as you think they are. She was definitely at an age where she knew, "I don't want you to be my mother anymore," especially during custody issues would permanently end her relationship.

[@MrArielK]

OP cheat that why daughter hates her

[@goddessrick8734]

OP left out too much. She didn't even say anything about the efforts she made to educate her daughter. Not sure if she's justified.

[@malikwillis05]

​@@goddessrick8734 she did you you'll know that if you paid attention to the story

[@TheSergio1021]

I dont know. Saying something mean cause you're an angsty teen after your mother LITERALLY ABANDONED YOU seems believable

[@malikwillis05]

@@TheSergio1021 she said she did not abandon her. She tried to get involved with her and her daughter rejected her. What do you want her do in this situation?

[@xevira]

I would have just gone "I never had a daughter."

[@Ethan_Animation520]

i think this might be the craziest title. ever.

[@Chickenfriedpenguin]

everyone in this story except james is toxic.

[@BlackRosex80]

How exactly is OP toxic? because I don’t understand at all.

[@katrose5179]

@@BlackRosex80well, she didn’t just leave her husband. She left her daughter. She left her daughter despite saying that her ex was incompetent as a father. Yeah she’s a shit mom. Also yeah the kid made a public post, and she’s petty and resenting the actions of a 13 year old. She needed to fight for her daughter if she really wanted to have the kid with her. Devastating my ass.

[@redrackham6812]

Read between the lines a little bit. She was denied any share in custody and given only supervised visits. That means that the court had to find that she was an unfit mother and potentially a danger to the child. She of course blames her ex-husband for that and says his diabolically brilliant attorney was able to make her look that bad, which is, of course, what everyone in her position says, but no attorney is that good. It is so hard for a woman to be denied any part of custody that she pretty much has to be the devil. Moreover, notice how everything is always someone else's fault with her, and when she does something, it is fine and reasonable, but when someone else does the same thing, it is not. When she showed up at her ex's house demanding to see her daughter--not, I note, at the scheduled time and not with the ordered supervision--that was fine, because she just wanted to hear directly from her daughter that she didn't want anything to do with her anymore. But if her daughter should show up uninvited at her wedding, or if her ex should show up to tell her off, that is terrible, and maybe she needs an order of protection. @@BlackRosex80

[@redrackham6812]

James is definitely toxic. Note that at every opportunity, he encourages her to sever ties with her daughter.

[@BlackRosex80]

@@redrackham6812 note that op’s daughter had severed ties first by saying that she didn’t want op as her mother

[@OneidaGC]

'SPOILER ALERT: So now that the daughter was able to be the bigger person and apologize for making mistakes AS A CHILD when does the mother have to take accountability for abandoning her daughter when she left the father because she was annoyed by the way the daughter she raised was acting. Yes she tried after the fact to get some of the custody back for a while but in the end the daughter apologized for decisions she was coerced into and the mother who had full agency is still somehow the victim after throwing her daughter out of her wedding assuming she was the same person she raised, thankfully the daughter was able to grow away from her. The father was initially the AH but he did raise that girl when the mother chose to leave instead of getting therapy and now the daughter is being manipulated by the mother as if the father didn't raise her, he was right to say the daughter acts like him because the mom was busy leaving them. I hope the kid goes to therapy and gets to love herself since her parents are both people that just should not have had children especially together.

[@Maw_man]

If the best you can get is supervised visitation from the court, you seriously fucked up.

[@tajcypress7897]

I’m sorry but she asked if she’s the AH for putting herself first for one day and pushing her daughter out on her wedding….you put yourself first for more than one day when you literally left your child to as the OP said “PUT HERSELF FIRST”

[@ThePawerStation]

You know what is going to be the perfect revenge. Post a pic in social media of all 3 and with the text: catching lost time and fixing broken bonds. That is how you'll get the RO on Donald.

[@kassiewaters5912]

Nah, the mother is just as self involved

[@madambutterfly1997]

Maybe you talking to your daughter with blatant obfuscation about her father's infidelity and narcissistic tendencies how you ultimately lost your daughter in the first place. I don't get why people try to explain without throwing the other partner under the bus

[@TheBetterlife101]

My goodness. I didn't know you were in the room when she was having the conversation with her daughter... you're acting like Donald

[@kinganarkzie]

This woman is the worst, she does not seem to understand that she is the adult in the relationship. Her 14 year old daughter was obviously upset about her leaving her dad(family) and the fact that she is basically a child with no life experience is why she handled the situation like a child. I really find it hard to believe that this woman was doing everything around the house, she is insanely self-centred and manipulative. It's sad that it was her daughter that had to do all the work tracking her down and even apologising. I'm sure there was a reason that she ended up losing custody.

[@hafsahsarham9870]

Yes but now her daughter is an adult and still acts like a spoilt entitled rude brat, especially after knowing she lied on her mum and somewhat ruined her reputation, so yeah she’s not entitled to anything either especially if she’s not gonna even attempt to talk to her mother like a human being you don’t get to act however you want and expect to not only make demands but have your demands fulfilled, if it really meant that much to her she could have texted her mum Even the day before to let her knew she’d be attending and there problem solved, nope she’d rather have ruined her mothers second wedding, ergo still activity that spoilt child that only wants their parents with each other and think their parents have to stay unhappy to placate them. Children are not stupid just misguided and as an adult she still chooses to stay misguided

[@TheKnightofAwesomeness]

Yeah if this is in the States, it takes A LOT for a mother to not have Any visitation rights... So, I don't believe her at all

[@lumdythelump]

Honestly, i didn't like anybody in this story. "My husband is lazy" folkowed by having a fucking security team at your next wedding? The only thing she cares about is money. The husband might have poisoned the daughter against her, but honestly the way she describes him as the fun parent and her disgust of it indicates to me that this woman has a fucked up life priority. Either way, its best for everyone involved not to interact with eachother.

[@williamtodoruk9595]

A mom kicks out her kid, because mom refused to invite her kid to her wedding. She is no better as she took her anger out on her kid when she is mad against her ex

[@xiqikxx8967]

So you divorced your ex because he wasn’t getting promoted at work and decided to have an affair?

[@firehot427]

Sounds like it. Sounds like he was having too much fun with his daughter as well.

[@MrArielK]

OP had an affair

[@UNITED-STATES-OF-MURICA140]

He was a deadbeat you obviously didn't listen. He was lazy

[@TheKnightofAwesomeness]

​@@UNITED-STATES-OF-MURICA140He was a "deadbeat", but he got Full Custody of the daughter??? Nah, that doesn't happen unless the mother had to have done something that warrant that decision... She's definitely omitting what she did to ruin the marriage.

[@UNITED-STATES-OF-MURICA140]

@@TheKnightofAwesomeness he was lazy she needed help around the house and they were not doing good financially he didn't take his Job seriously which she stated. Plus the daughter lied and said that the mom did things that she did not he got full custody because the daughter lies on social media.

[@yamairad1]

So, we are glossing over the fact she left her daughter with the dad and moved out? That is NOT what a loving parent would do.

[@soluiz]

There's this thing called the law.

[@vendetta.02]

bro she literally asked them if she was wanted as a presence, they said no and she moved out, it wasnt without notice lol she would have stayed with custody if she said yes she wanted her mom

[@smorphous8928]

But Op can’t do anything since her daughter chose to live with her dad, that’s the law and the daughter didn’t even ask for visitation.

[@yamairad1]

@@vendetta.02 I mean at first. She said she had enough she left the house and filed for divorce. She said it in that order. BEFORE the kid was mad at her. Listen to it again. She says it so nonchalantly that it appears nobody noticed.

[@jacoby-flower]

Not to mention the timeliness her kid was 13 at the divorce, they were NC for 6 years meaning the kid was an asshole for less then a year and she just completely gave up on her in that short span of time.

[@lizzykayOT7]

OP could have prevented a lot of this by talking to her child before she filed for divorce. That was honestly very strange to me, she seemed to have started resenting her daughter before filing. Then there was the divorce process, it's fine if Donald got a shark (good for him, many wealthy men do lol), but it seemed like she filed for divorce without proper preparation. If she had spoken to an attorney, they would have advised her to prepare evidence of her behaviour and her husbands incompetence. Honestly, that's why I call this story fake. They painted her as a cheater and mentally unstable with what grounds?

[@claclaclac1]

Lmao yall should not take all of these these fake ass stories too seriously

[@TechnoSpice]

These particular stories, no telling if they're uniquely true, but things like this do happen all the time. I am old and I've SEENT it.

[@MrArielK]

@@TechnoSpiceno they don’t, not like this dramatic. 50% marriages end in divorce, literally everyone seen how divorce happens

[@PhyroMcBruceEsq]

SEENTED !@@TechnoSpice

[@GreenblackGBG]

They really shouldn't have kicked her out. She was just 13 when she did what she did and turning up at the wedding was indeed an attempt to make peace. What a moron of a mother/new husband.

[@ijustdidthistohavemusic2061]

Nice bait

[@kinfegebrielindewunet141]

I like to see both side of the story

[@taylordaenzer4852]

Ya he right in this because his daughter rejected him so many times so he doesn't own them apology or anything for that matter.

[@renadu30]

Uh... You reversed the genders : the daughter was trashing her mother, while the dad was manipulating the daughter... But yeah, the mother doesn't owe an apology to her daughter after she rejected her.

[@MrArielK]

oP had an affair

[@malikwillis05]

​@@MrArielK How do you know

[@nkarma_]

​@@MrArielKhow do you know that?

[@renadu30]

@@MrArielK If you are basing this on the claims of her ex saying she was flirting with other men... Well, some points : 1) If it was true, the OP would probably not have said this detail, to preserve her image. Her conscience is clear. 2) The divorce was due to the fact that her ex-husband was putting no effort at all in the relationship. 3) She met her current husband way after the divorce. So... Nah, no sign of an affair, but I spy with my little eye what we call the worst side of the incel community, you do remind me of one I knew XD.

[@sliqyplayz8072]

Okay so instead of blaming the husband for pushing OP away or just accepting the fact that the OP needs her own happiness, she decided to blame the OP for “breaking up the family” and just expecting her to waste her life with a husband she doesn’t love to protect there happy family image.

[@hafsahsarham9870]

Exactly my thoughts she’s inherited her fathers selfish and entitled nature, typical spoilt daddy’s girl blaming mum for consequences of dads actions , I understand her hurt due to her parents splitting but she does not get to use her mum as a Scapegoat

[@jacoby-flower]

Look at the the facts. She up and left no communication to her daughter. The courts sided with the father which is rare. The divorce happened when daughter was 13, op says no contact for 6 years meaning she didn't even try longer then a few months. Yup op sounds like a stand up mother.

[@sliqyplayz8072]

The daughter literally said op wasn’t her mother anymore, if the daughter really wanted to reach out to op she would have in 6 years.

[@sliqyplayz8072]

It’s not like op blocked her, oh wait, the daughter blocked op ☠️

[@jacoby-flower]

She was 13 years old it's not her fucking job to keep a parent around its the parents job to stick around.

[@kkcuzz]

Damn that kid is going to be screwed up

[@jemase7931]

April had been an adult for a whole year and could have tried to make contact.

[@joshfly210]

She is going through what most men go through after a divorce.

[@aaronmiles2802]

Yep, EXACTLY what I thought

[@darkknight3037]

the dad is a terrible dad, the mom is also terrible. they shouldnt ever have had a child

[@LadyKurta]

Uh.. OP left here husband and daughter WITHOUT talking to them about it... Then OBVIOUSLY they got mad and want her away, but of course her daughter still loved her... Now OP is blaming that little girl who was abandoned and when she tried to reach her mother, she kicked her out... I think OP is a huge AS

[@LeanDispenser]

She could've reached out to op before the wedding?

[@LeanDispenser]

Also OP only left the husband because of how miserable her life was getting, she even wanted to co-parent before the divorce and then the daughter lied about OP bullying the daughter

[@kinganarkzie]

@@LeanDispenser how do we know it was a lie? She's talking about how bad a man her ex husband was while also saying the daughter was a mini version of him, putting 2 and 2 together it's not beyond reason that she was saying the same shit to the kid, add to that, that the only concrete complaint she had about him is that he will never get a promotion in her opinion and this is why she hates him. Calms that he lazy but he's been raising their child alone for the last 6 years so that's not true, she lost custody because of apparent character assassination but she literally walked out on her family without saying anything so I think that the court probably had their reasons.

[@allansullivan7605]

@@kinganarkzie It is true that in any story such as this, we are getting only a single perspective, so there is no way to know for sure whether the daughter's accusations of bullying was a lie or not. However, the fact that the daughter has since worked on reconciling and apologizing suggests that yes, her earlier accusations were indeed a lie. (If they had been accurate, it would have been unlikely that the daughter would have wanted any sort of relationship going forward.)

[@kinganarkzie]

@@allansullivan7605a large number of people in abusive situations blame themselves so it's really not all that conclusive. The fact that the daughter had to do all of the ground to get a relationship with this woman also shows the mums lack of maturity. I know that this is written from the mums point of view but it's really obvious that she is the problem here, even without the courts taking custody away from her.

[@kelleygreengrass]

So you abandoned your 13 year old daughter and its somehow her fault?

[@NessieNice]

The ex being the one who raised the kid. Well, duh. That's the least anyone should do when they're not interested in bringing more money. I doubt that would happen if he was the sole breadwinner or at least 50:50 with wife

[@chanayplease]

I'm also suspicious of the daughter but if I give her the benefit of the doubt, she probably had an inkling of her dad BS'ing. So that call was the straw that broke the camel's back, I just hope for the OP's sake she means well. I understand that's her baby but to be disowed THAT badly? I wouldn't want much to do w/my child, that would ruin my entire world

[@matthewuzulis5016]

OP is full of it. The initial story had me side eyeing it a bit but as the updates got posted it became clear op refuses to take any accountability or blame. I'm not saying her Ex is innocent but I do question how bad he truly was/is. The last update seems off to me, it's almost cookie cutter fairy tale how everything works out. I also was confused about her pushing the allegation of Stalking and looking to get a restraining order for what happened. Hell she did the exact same things she is accusing. I'm just getting "Karen" vibes from OP.

[@TheMatMarlow]

I'm also getting these vibes, i feel i can't trust ops story for shit, and that makes me think ex was probably a good guy who got kicked to the curb for another man. How else would the daughter refuse to even see her, of all these stories that I've read, the only time the kids refuse to see them was when there's been infidelity or abuse. The part that got me laughing was when she said she hung up on her daughter without letting her even reply and a couple days go by and she was disappointed the daughter didn't try to get back in contact with her xD just blatantly shows the kind of person OP is all about me me me xD

[@ShadowGladiatorX]

​@@TheMatMarlow great you know parents just aren't supposed to have any human emotions and just supposed to rug sweet all there kids awful behavior and supposed to take abuse 😂

[@MrArielK]

@@ShadowGladiatorX a good parent never gives up on child, a problematic offspring in the result of a fail of a parent, Op and ex are incapable of raising child

[@HoNkYforLiFe1]

Op is weak minded

[@joshuarees2354]

I cant believe story 1 the women actually wrote and posted this with no shame what is wrong with women these days

[@raythehomie123]

you are not a sigma chad you are a minor go do your homework

[@MrArielK]

It’s AÍ generated for your entertainment, stories on reddit are not allowed to be this big

[@firehot427]

@@raythehomie123you get no bitches

[@BMAN-xl7pi]

This is for sure one of the instances a marriage should end

[@LoganRogue1]

The ending is a nice reverse uno.

[@erickaennis2738]

Nope ..NTA Op. April is a spoiled brat. Parents have feelings as well. April wanted to keep emotionally abusing her mother because of her father. It was best to leave her alone. I would've thrown her out of my wedding as well. What was she going to do? Ruin it.

[@katherinenelson7221]

She is just like daddy

[@whatdRaysay]

This story makes MGTOW seem like a good choice

[@zealot912]

I think OP is a liar.

[@firehot427]

Gives no obvious lie to how her ex is manipulating the daughter or even in court. She had to do some serious stuff to lose custody and for the court to agree with it. The court 100% of the timesv will give the mom custody

[@momoangel9243]

Bruh i find it very strange as heII op let her ex, parental alienate her from her daughter??? Especially with the daughter blasting junk on social media.

[@firehot427]

She’s leaving out major details to make herself look better. To the point those details made her daughter want vengeance by ruining her wedding

[@malikwillis05]

​@@firehot427who do you know

[@firehot427]

@@malikwillis05 how do you not know? Having supervised visits in custody agreements means she did something really bad to warrant that custody agreement with the COURT. The court always sides with mothers. Mothers are better caretakers and less likely to be dangerous than men.

[@malikwillis05]

@@firehot427 if she was that bad why would her daughter want to reach out to her

[@firehot427]

@@malikwillis05 it was obvious something happened to warrant her not wanting to talk like an affair and her just coming to terms with it. ESH

[@DraxXThanos]

somethings off about this story.

[@honeybee476]

More to the story, I think . OP does sound like a crap Mother

[@malikwillis05]

How?

[@honeybee476]

@@malikwillis05 she walked out on her 13 year old child. For her to get supervised visits, is another hint that there is more to it.

[@PhilipJFry58598]

@@honeybee476did you not listen to the story

[@honeybee476]

@@PhilipJFry58598 did you?

[@Bijecarli]

Why do these stories have the same writing style? It's as if they're all written by the same 8th grader.