Dave McMenamin & Tim Legler on the firing of Frank Vogel | This Just In

[@logluffy5830]

I like that tim legler is getting more TV coverage.

[@The_Gamers_Gamer]

Tim Legler is the only basketball analyst at ESPN worth listening to. Everybody else is shallow and superficial. He offers substance and nuanced thinking.

[@jkris1947]

Reddick is pretty good!

[@laceup62]

I also personally like woj and Lowe but anymore too much espn guys love the smell of their own farts lol

[@MaverickIceman]

JJ and RJ are both good too

[@michaelscarn378]

When I smoke weed I listen to Stephen A Spliff

[@user-xk6dn7tu5d]

Lebron said it wasn't a failure, they just didn't accomplish their goals this season, which is literally the definition of failure.

[@mikeh2129]

Exactly. For LeBron not to acknowledge that as a failure makes me wonder how he defines failure

[@42tregg6]

Lebron's a moron who's too old to carry a team.

[@MinePlay512]

The Front Office is too blame. They traded the youngsters for those players.

[@saburvd7874]

I can't believe Frank Vogel couldn't take a team that had Westbrook who is the league's worst starter, the injured Anthony Davis, and a bunch of 40 year olds who were good 7 years ago to the playoffs this year. What a failure!

[@cn3460]

You’re correct. Everything makes sense if you acknowledge the superstars are not as great as the media professes. Look LA and NY are vital to the revenue model of the NBA where the media is also compensated based on ratings. AD, Russ, Melo and to a lesser extent LBJ are overrated. Lakers have missed the playoffs 2 out 4 years with LBJ. His era in LA is over and it’s time to rebuild but without buying a superstar. That model is broken. Just look at the Clippers. Phoenix, GS, Bucks, Celtics and Memphis, all are organically grown and are small markets.

[@edwinj]

@@cn3460 The Clippers aren’t organically grown or a small market.

[@cn3460]

@@edwinj - you didn’t read the “.” The clippers are not part of the organically built list.

[@bradthomas7431]

No it's not franks fault he had one of the most talented teams and not make the playoffs let's be real he never supposed to be the coach to being with.

[@cn3460]

@@bradthomas7431 - nonsense the big 3 or 4 whatever are at best one way players that are injury prone. Overrated by media who’s ratings are tied to big market viewership. If Vogel had the authority (and most coaches don’t) he would have had Westbrook coming off the bench after the all-star break. Also would have played LBJ at the 5.

[@tonypreston7278]

It’s shameful the amount of Lakers segments ESPN has done today

[@nicolef2147]

And for a total failure...

[@brandoonf6962]

FACTS omg. Where the playoff videos??

[@OpticPotatoOP]

6:37 yo this highlight is crazy 🔥

[@graysonpitts5784]

Wasn’t completely his fault they underperformed they couldn’t stay healthy but what do you expect from a team who’s average age is over 30 also didn’t help that AD missed so much time

[@tidedetergent4382]

I know but it was a failure

[@graysonpitts5784]

@@tidedetergent4382 still he’s not the one making the calls it’s the front office that deserves the most blame

[@rbb9753]

How many teams who finished ahead of them lost more games to their top three players? At least half.

[@graysonpitts5784]

@@rbb9753 not sure what you mean

[@KinseyPro]

Woj breaking the story last night was classless and a representation of the organizations lack of respect for Vogel who brought the Lakers a championship.

[@1990758]

Lol

[@tropicalstorm24]

I'll be waiting for Woj's apology

[@rolandreyna215]

LoL. Championship! Please their so called championship is more hilarious than the Spurs of 99.

[@bradthomas7431]

@@rolandreyna215 Yea everybody knew when the season started and what it was.

[@Psquared2324]

Vogel is a great coach, don't get it twisted. Dude will find a new job fast.

[@nicstone3141]

Good not great

[@me3ksdagoat279]

Probably why Jkidd left he knew what was coming

[@jaylenflanagan1295]

He’s not good

[@darrenrussell3695]

@@nicstone3141 No he's great

[@xrandomdonalds695]

Narrative is that he didnt have the right pieces and was a scapegoat. Ofc he will get another head coach spot

[@user-zl5nk2jn2k]

Vogel paid the price for LeGM`s personnel moves.

[@defnotatroll]

What's worse is I don't think LeBron actually acknowledges he did anything wrong

[@WTFProductions912]

I’ve done that……. Said before we’ve done that. Pathetic excuse for a leader. Disgusting.

[@xrandomdonalds695]

This is a great panel

[@christopherniceley8848]

Because it's Frank Vogels fault the Lakers were riddled with injuries this year, and literally haven't played more than 25% games together as a full team... Seems legit.

[@miltongloster2334]

That was cold blooded

[@Mr.Majestic77]

Did Frank Vogel lead the Lakers to the 2020 NBA Finals and Championship?

[@taxationistheft7047]

Stop….. come on that makes too much sense you can’t be doing that

[@lorenzomartin6217]

@@taxationistheft7047 lmao word, apparently championships make you a worse coach lol

[@taxationistheft7047]

@@lorenzomartin6217 bro had the best defense in the league the whole time he was there too 😭😭besides this year

[@FIatIined]

So, they fired Vogel because he created the roster, missed tons of shots, hitting shots that hit the backboard, didn't play defense or get back on defense etc etc....

[@bradthomas7431]

That's why they fired Mark Jackson

[@NoGutsNoGlory-s7x]

Trading for Russ was the worst decision the Lakers could have made. Hopefully he plays lights out for them next season. They stuck with him unless they trade that pick.

[@LeGoatJames111]

no they’re not stuck with him they’re trading him easily with the pick. There’s a 100% chance that Russ is gone next year

[@johnwhite731]

Not playing in a bubble is what changed since that Disney Land Championship. What is AD talking about?

[@braddougan1919]

This is not a attractive or desirable job right now and no top coach will touch it!

[@donnielewis8649]

Of course Frank Vogel should have been fired.He should have benched Lebron everytime the man he was guarding went around him.Then he would have been playing about a minute a game.

[@doesntmatter6453]

Absolutel failure. Watch this... was it a success?? No. Whats the opposite of success my guy? 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@supernotnatural]

"better get Westbrick instead of demar de rozan" - LeGM

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

If you watch HBO's Winning Time, there's an important female figure in it named Claire Rothman portrayed by Gaby Hoffman. That's who trained Jeanie Buss on tne business side. Jeanie became the accountant that Claire was.

[@OG725]

Pat4Clippers FOH 🤡 worry about your flippers. And watch them lose in the play in now that your back on the wagon. After calling them mediocre and that this season was over lmao

[@tomhetrick8426]

How many coaches is Lebron going to get fired?

[@yinyang6414]

why do u care ?

[@dwightyawg7781]

@@yinyang6414 why are you offended on Lebron’s behalf?

[@yinyang6414]

​@@dwightyawg7781 U lebron haters are some weirdos ....

[@The_Gamers_Gamer]

Don't forget he tried to strangle in the crib the infant career of Spo who's been ranked top 15 coaches EVER since.

[@yinyang6414]

@@The_Gamers_Gamer They all mediocre .Lebron never had a coach at the highest level like Phil Jackson ,P.Riley or Coach Pop . Lebron is the main reason why 3 coaches have 3 titles ,no other way arround .

[@Slenderirl]

Look healthy team they are a playoff team

[@flyguy7825]

This shouldn't surprise anyone LeBron James ain't going nowhere unless he wants to A.D. is not going anywhere unless he wants to Russell Westbrook gets paid too much and it's going to be hard to move him of course the coach is going to get the ax it always happens this way I think LeBron James and I'm not blaming him for the coach being fired Has to have the NBA record for being a part of coach firings in history I mean this makes this how many coaches 6 or7.

[@poochie-son]

Tim kept it casual,but he's basically saying as long as they have the INJURY RIDDLED Anthony Davis,they will keep losing....ppl forget they brought in A.D to add a year or 2 onto james career,and he hasn't lived up to that deal at all.... DAVIS must go👎🏽

[@xrandomdonalds695]

AD belongs in the street!!

[@trevorwilliams6402]

This team is so old they can probably coach themselves

[@aa-.-477]

Coach K, Phil Handy or them both. They are both winners and respected.

[@BottomLin3Op]

What a shame he had to stay on the plane because he knew the front office was that bad that he thought they would be waiting for him on the tarmac.

[@lovelyme4004]

The Lakers coach is not the only problem on this lakers team..The coach is just the tip of the iceberg. I believe when KD said, LeBron is very toxic. Old age play a part, injures and no connection within players.

[@rolandreyna215]

Thank you iceberg for sinking the unsinkable Lakers.

[@lovelyme4004]

@@rolandreyna215 😆 🤣 facts 💯

[@MC-cp2rt]

KD was on point on!!!!!!!!!!

[@freemandam1]

The Lakers are getting exactly what they deserve!!!!!

[@michaeldauria4386]

Like what?

[@thetruth-gy2lc]

Crazy how Bron always tries to change the narrative. 1st it was keep that same energy & now the season wasn’t a failure cuz they tried hard lol

[@defnotatroll]

Very much clown behaviour

[@tylerk4641]

The question as to can Lebron and AD win another championship with Lakers to me is absolutely! YES!! obviously health has been there biggest issue the past 2 seasons but I'm gonna assume they won't be as big of an issue next season. I'm also gonna assume they get a good coach and build a roster around Lebron and AD that fits. They do those things there back to a 50+ win team and championship contender and no offense to Phoenix, Memphis, Dallas , Denver , Warriors, Jazz but if those are the teams to beat moving forward i wouldn't be that concerned. If Lakers land a good coach, stay healthy and build a roster around Lebron and AD that actually fits they'll have no issues beating those teams. It's not the 73-9 Warriors or KD, Curry, Thompson, Green, loaded bench stacked Warriors they have to deal with. Keep Stanley, Reaves, Gabriel in which all 3 who are young 25 and younger all played very well defensively, offensively and always gave 100% effort and played there hearts out. I look at it a lot like Memphis or the suns you keep those 3 guys and they'll continue to get better and all 3 will be a big part of Lakers next year and for years and years to come. Then you look at trading Westbrook. Unfortunately he didn't fit the team but there's plenty of teams interested in him still despite what people have said including, Indiana, Charlotte, Houston, OKC to name a few. One mock trade was Russ , THT, pick for Malcolm Brogdon and Buddy Hield which if they can get that trade they need to do that. Imagine a starting lineup of Brogdon, Hield, Lebron, Gabriel, and AD. In which every player in that lineup is capable of hitting the 3 and spacing the floor and also that lineup is excellent defensively also aside from Bron that lineup is all under 30 years old. Now imagine that and a bunch unit of Kendrick Nunn who can give you 20+ a night, Reaves, Stanley, a veteran and then a young center. That and a good coach and this team is looking great and is mostly young.

[@1990758]

Lol

[@darrenrussell3695]

Nah

[@tylerk4641]

@@darrenrussell3695 yes! And your stupid if you think otherwise sorry

[@stevengordon3271]

No way without the defenders and role players they got rid of in order to get Westbrook. There is no way to reverse the damage in just a year, especially without draft picks. Dead in the water for at least 3 years and then Lebron is retired and you have to decide whether to pay AD the max.

[@rodneyboswell536]

bubble rings dont count

[@desmondjefferson2127]

If the team isn't responding to your coaching, you're the wrong guy

[@MC-cp2rt]

You're right! The Laker players....led by Lebron....laid down on the coach! MJ is the GOAT, Lebron is the little fake goat!

[@stevengordon3271]

Or you assembled the wrong team.

[@cheflev9884]

There were so many factors outside of Vogels control that resulted in the lakers being absolute trash this year. Having said that Vogel contributed to it in many many ways. His lineups were inconsistent outside of injuries. He often made terrible adjustments. And worst of all he wasn’t able to bring the team together. At some point this season Vogel lost touch with his team. Fair or not this is the coaches job.

[@laceup62]

The lakers gave one of the best defensive coaches a bunch of old guys who don't defend. As for losing touch with his players I honestly don't see that. There's been reports westbrook was uncooperative from the start but that's westbrook. He was also given ariza, Bazemore, THT, Howard, and DJ who all played disappointing, so I can't blame him too much for his lineups when Gabriel, Augustine, and Bradley couldn't make a team at the start but the lakers were forced to play them. Palinka imo deserves so much more blame

[@cheflev9884]

@@laceup62 I honestly agree that Palinka deserves the most blame for putting together an awful team. I agree with you that Vogel didn’t have too many lineup options and that most of the players they counter on to be heavy lifters were a disappointment. Despite all of that and more being true I also saw Vogel lose many games because he didn’t make the right adjustments. He time and time again took out players that in the match up gave the lakers an advantage. Regarding losing his players, that’s a feeling that I have because the lakers just didn’t put in any effort for so much of the season.

[@MC-cp2rt]

I disagree, Frank "hands were tied"...…maybe what he should've done.....at the beginning of the year was to resign!

[@laceup62]

@@cheflev9884 I agree their effort was definitely lacking which vogel deserves blame as does everyone but I can at least see where frank was at. He did prioritize defense like playing bradley over monk or ariza over reeves which was definitely wrong at times. To me though it's like giving dantoni a team with no 3 point guys. What did they expect? I do agree with you though just wanted to add my two sense

[@cheflev9884]

@@laceup62 I think you make very fair points and I don’t disagree with you. Palinka dealt Vogel a bad hand and I think Vogel just played it poorly. I don’t think Vogel is a bad coach by any means. It’s just that with the team he got he couldn’t do much with it while maybe other coaches could have. It’s to your point that the team wasn’t constructed towards Vogels coaching strengths.

[@alexpisco1613]

I don’t know who would take this coaching position now lol

[@MsMytube75]

Legler should promoted to gm of all ESPN alalysts

[@straight_NoChaser]

This ain’t the bubble with a 5 month break.

[@joesphbutchko6472]

LeBron's attitude is a reflection on leadership throughout his career. No rising star athlete or coach is going to want to be part of this narrative. LBJ doesn't have anyone's back.

[@MC-cp2rt]

Lebron led the revolt on disrespecting Frank! Lebron's career is over!!! MJ is the REAL GOAT!

[@bradthomas7431]

@@MC-cp2rt Frank trash bro

[@joesphbutchko6472]

@@MC-cp2rt MJ stuck with his guy's & coach through everything. He Developed Kukoc & Scottie into Hall of fame players & Delivered 6championships. Mad respect but LBJ is a different dude.

[@lakerland420]

He needed to go. I don’t know what all you people are talking about. Since last year this team had no identity. He played waaaay to many players never could figure out the rotation of players that worked good together. And it looked like I lost the locker room. All things that fall on the head coach. Yeah they had a lot of injuries but that team hasn’t had a identity since they won the championship.

[@trip2belize]

You're so dumb it makes my head spin, how can someone be so wrong about something so blatantly obvious?!

[@daleahsampler3451]

No identity last year ? We were 3rd in defense last year and 1st the year before what are you talking about

[@KD2xs_]

He played too many players due to injuries and chemistry, basically trying to figure it out… he used what THEY gave him and now they are just using him as a fall guy. Why have a full team Anyways if your only gonna play the same few guys who aren’t even getting you wins 😂🤷🏾‍♀️

[@bennygarvey]

LJ leaving a trail of destruction again.

[@randybailin4902]

Woj knew that Vogel was getting canned but LeBron didn't? Sure.

[@_38Baby]

The funny part is that the Lakers are going to run it back with basically the same team with a new coach next season, let's see what's the excuse next season.

[@heisenberg2966]

It won’t be “The Same Team”!

[@Dakcha]

It's been pretty obvious they are going to redo the roster and keep the core of Lebron/AD, not sure what you're talking about lol

[@_38Baby]

@@heisenberg2966 It will be the same team.

[@_38Baby]

@@Dakcha So the Lakers have 7 guaranteed contracts for next season already $27m over the luxury tax. Lakers have no future 1st round picks until 2027. Basically the same team is running it back 💀

[@indrauchiha8526]

What u smokin LOL. Lakers will make some trades

[@predpalina]

Fire LBJ!

[@dkswindell86]

More starting lineups than wins and going small not playing rondo or the big men they had. Pelinka needs to go too

[@SuperPalti]

In Full Season NBA (82 games) Lakers only reach Palyoffs Round 1.. In Bubble they win not in full season!!

[@MrNaturalSez]

Recycle Luke Walton!

[@jordanmeike7431]

So LeBron blames injuries and them not being on the court long enough but they fire Vogel? Make it make sense lmao.

[@louieponsarana1249]

what has to happen/change after that championship?!! it's you getting healthy AD!!

[@RetrieverTrainingAlone]

Lakers had the oldest roster in the history of the NBA. Many of the players on the roster are way past their prime and are too slow to play defense and will not improve with age. Who among these old timers could improve beyond below average defenders: Ariza, Augustin, Bazemore, Bradley, Ellington, Howard, Melo, LeBron, Westbrook? LeBron ran out of gas and could not close many games that the Lakers could have won with a prime LeBron. AD shot 18% from 3-pointers this season. As a team the Lakers were below average shooters: 20th in the NBA in 3pointer%, 20th in the NBA in rebounding, 23rd in the NBA in defensive rating and 29th in the NBA in free throw%. Lakers need younger, better shooters, rebounders, and defenders.

[@WTFProductions912]

LeBron will go down in history not on Mount Rushmore not even on Mount Rushmore 2.0. That’s Michael Larry Magic and Kareem. Wilt Russell Shaq and Kobe.

[@gahanmodule7378]

30,000 points 10,000 rebounds 10,000 assists. name anyone else who's accomplished that.

[@WTFProductions912]

@@gahanmodule7378 that’s because every team he has played on developed the LeBron James system where the team focuses solely on him. He also leads the nba all time in turnovers. When he leaves the offense has to rebuild from scratch.

[@WTFProductions912]

@@gahanmodule7378 he plays in an era of the 3 ball one on one no bigs. The leader in blocks today averages 2 and they aren’t even centers! In the best era ever in the 80s and 90s…. the league leader averaged between 4 to 5 at the center position. Because there was actually post play and defense played. LeBron wouldn’t have scored as much by far and rebounds would have come off and assists. So would the turnovers.

[@808bAler]

AD is SOOFFFTT!

[@bozz4008]

Another good coach getting fired because of Westbrook

[@WTFProductions912]

Wrong because of LeBron.

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

I thought my Clippers trading Blake was classless. Blake didn't even find out he got traded until he checked the internet. What Lakers did was completely classless. Vogel had to find out during the post-game interview.

[@jwd8064]

No disrespect but Bubble chip is way overrated. Half of players didnt want to be there and no crowd for any pressure. Not to mention 6month break btw regular ss to playoffs.

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

The Lakers don't know what they're doing. And it's not only recently. It's been nearly a decade since Jerry Buss died. This isn't the 1980s and 2000s any more. They keep screwing up and screwing up like the Knicks and Cowboys.

[@bobmarley9835]

that ring the lakers got in the covid bubble doesnt count.

[@christianrossil3729]

If the suns can do it with an old CP3, then the lakers can

[@rolandreyna215]

Suns have one old player. Not the whole team.

[@christianrossil3729]

@@rolandreyna215 agree 100%. Legler was talking about the star players though

[@chilamilla]

Another Coach fired under LeBrons watch.

[@messagekeenenivorywayansvo3011]

@@IshoDominatesLuciferAndGoetia Jordan, Shaq and Kobe made Phil Jackson. Duncan, Parker, Ginobili Kawhi, Robinson made Popovich. You see Pops record without hall of famers. Not saying coaching doesn’t matter. The mark of a great coach is what Ty Lue did with the Clippers this year. No superstars but getting good players to play at the best of their ability every night. Good coaches who win titles With great players get superstars to play more within a team concept. People forget Phil was an assistant coach on the bulls when they were losing to the Pistons. And the triangle only works with high IQ players. Knicks disaster ring any bells. He was the GM and had his coach run his and Tex Winters system. It was a disaster.

[@darrenrussell3695]

@@messagekeenenivorywayansvo3011 How many championships did Jordan win without Phil?

[@messagekeenenivorywayansvo3011]

@@darrenrussell3695 None but how many coaches get to coach 3 top 15 players all time?

[@darrenrussell3695]

@@messagekeenenivorywayansvo3011 Don't think Shaq quite makes the cut for top 15 but Pat Riley had Magic and Karim together in LA plus Shaq along with Wade, Mourning and Payton plus a few other superstars I'm sure I'm leaving out, Kerr had KD and Curry for 2 of his 3 but either way you don't just luck into winning 11 championships there's some skill involved.

[@marksimmons5839]

Lebron is a snake, you think they didnt get his approval before Axing Vogel?!

[@ZombieZifiction]

He definitely did, he's a terrible person always has been

[@briteslider]

But they didn’t.

[@nicstone3141]

no they didnt get his stamp before hiring him in fact he wanted a different coach Ty Lue and they said no and I hate the lakers

[@carravaggiomikelson870]

Lol snake how? Its a sport dude .people come and go . Get hired and fired and the super super stars like brady always get informed. He does more good for people yet his a "snake" Get his money and let see if you'll build a skool for kids n pay for their university

[@WTFProductions912]

LeBron is a quitter and coach killer. Franchise killer. Makes players worse off in the end. Over rated.

[@kaosaeteurn6664]

Despite these player's age, they should have gone further with that much talent! I would of just hire the superstars wives and/or mothers to coach! Maybe then they'll listen! This year was a joke for all of them! Now can we stop talking about the Lakers and focus on more important issue's like why kangaroos can't hop backwards! 🤔

[@Christopher-dk7ol]

Lakers need a tough coach and put the show to rest. $70 plus mil on three stars and cant make the play in 😂

[@capturethemoment9170]

i dont think lebron will win another title again. Lebron is on a downhill already. And west are tough with alot of superstar. Luka doncic has more chance of winning a title than lebron

[@rolandreyna215]

He will want Luka to join the Lakers before he retires.

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

If nepotism didn't play a part in this, would Jeanie even qualify for the job? It's like Austin Rivers getting his $35M from my Clippers because his GM daddy gave him that money! Jeanie is simply known as the daughter of Jerry Buss.

[@jaysmith8661]

2020 bubble champ🤣🤣💀

[@LeGoatJames111]

excuses

[@MasterOfNone88]

That bubble gum championship ??? Y’all really counting that as a real championship ??? 🤣🤣😂🤣🧢🧢🧢

[@bossplayermfs5972]

Exactly, even the HOF’ers don’t considered bubble 🫧 fluke @$$ championship real.

[@OG725]

🤡

[@kb4231]

Playoffs about to start

[@giotorres8669]

THIS SEASON GOES TO RUSS PLAY LEBRON BODY LANGUAGE ON THE COURT N AD ALWAYS STAYING HURT

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

My Clippers had Paul George for only 31 games and we still had a better record than the Lakers who had LeBron for 56 games, AD for 40, and Russ for 78. Spike Lee's Knicks had a better record than these Lakers.. 🤣

[@desmondjefferson2127]

Tim to get rid of Westbrook and Davis

[@WTFProductions912]

Wrong you keep Westbrook and move LeBron / waive him. Trade Davis.

[@LeGoatJames111]

@@WTFProductions912 no you trade Russ and keep bron and AD

[@andrewdurand3181]

Lebron. Has. Never. Owned. A. Loss. It's why he will never reach GOAT status. He pushes the blame everywhere else unless it's so obvious that he doesn't have a choice. But then he will put on a cast.

[@anthonyslazas2898]

LeBron done winning a championships!!!

[@LeGoatJames111]

nope. He winning 3 more to get to 7

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

Lakers have a 26% chance getting a top 4 pick and 6% getting the 1st pick. Good luck, Lakers. 🙏🏻 I'm praying for you to get the #1 pick. David Griffin is doing the same. That's all folks! 😂

[@miguelflores1939]

LeBron James you won all championships things to your boys Dawde, Chris Bosh, Kevin Love and kriely

[@poppa956]

How do you say young superstars a name jokic in Luca they want these white players to be it so bad…. How about Ja Morant better record & better player than both of them

[@MasterOfNone88]

Lebron 🧢

[@g..._anthony27]

👎🏼

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

Lakers fans in 2020: Flippers blew a 3-1 lead! Pandemic P hit the side of the backboard! 🤣 Their karma: Westbrick. Doc Rivers? 🤣

[@Bobby13140]

BREAKING NEWS Michael Vick has died

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

That 2020 covid championship, no real Lakers fan cares about that. They won't remember that fondly. They want more! They want to see a championship in front of them in LA. LeBron will never measure up to past Laker greats.

[@Harr1sonS123]

First

[@tomlittle9103]

A good, wholesome comment. Save yourself a pat on the back from me, pal.

[@micjisters]

if i ever see white dudes talking b-ball without proper black oversight visible in the frame i am going to call someone and complain. but i can't because that would be racist and transphobic. i'm still mad though.