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"The first time I ever really listened to Kyle Kulinski’s show was in the back of a cab last summer. The driver had his phone hooked up through the stereo and was pumping out an episode through the car speakers - loudly, as if looking to convert a captive audience.
“Do you like Kyle Kulinski?”
The driver, Ahmed, was a recent immigrant and apparently a die-hard fan of Secular Talk, the political talk show that Kulinski broadcasts on KZbin. I told him, yes, in fact. I do like Kulinski, had come across his show several years ago, and, all things considered, he seemed pretty good.
“He understands what we’re up against,” Ahmed said. “Like Bernie.”
But I was surprised to hear Kulinski’s name mentioned in the same breath as Bernie Sanders, particularly with such adoration. Because what I did remember about Kulinski’s show struck me as mostly capital-P “progressive” takes on the news - the left wing of the Netroots crowd more than the democratic socialism Sanders has popularized.
It’s an impression that wasn’t entirely incorrect.
“I have no time for philosophical, airy bullshit,” Kulinski tells me from his home in Westchester, New York. “I don’t want to hear about Lenin. I don’t want to hear about Marx. I just want a super plainspoken, straightforward agenda with a straightforward way of selling it.”
With over 800,000 subscribers and nearly 670 million total views on KZbin, selling a progressive agenda is clearly something Kulinski knows how to do - even Democracy Now, the long-standing flagship of progressive media, cannot match his reach on the platform. Chapo Trap House can certainly boast a wildly devoted fan base (and a not insignificant degree of media influence), but their audience is roughly half the size of Kulinski’s.
While Secular Talk might be more likely to be looped in with the progressive networks around Air America and Pacifica alums like Sam Seder than the more resolutely socialist world, Kulinski’s fiery rhetoric, razor-sharp class instincts, and knack for withering takedowns sets him apart from his peers. Judging by his rhetoric alone, he’s closer to a Eugene Debs than a Chris Hayes.
But unlike Hayes, Amy Goodman, or his friend Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks - who began airing Secular Talk on his web network seven years ago - the thirty-two-year-old Kulinski is virtually invisible in the mainstream media. Despite his enormous fan base, his show has never once been mentioned in the obligatory trend pieces on “the Millennial Left” pumped out by the prestige media. Nor has Kulinski’s name ever popped up at all in the New York Times, Vox, the New Yorker, New York Magazine, or the Washington Post, despite his leading role in cofounding Justice Democrats, the organization widely credited with sweeping Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the rest of “the Squad” to power.
Just last week, his Wikipedia page was deleted. The reason? “There is very simply no [reliable source] coverage of this person,” according to one moderator. In new media, he’s king - the Sean Hannity of the Berniecrat left. In old media, he’s nobody.
I suspect there are a few reasons for that. There is nothing “cool” about Kulinski’s show. (As a friend put it, “‘Welcome to Secular Talk’ sounds like something you’d hear on Egyptian radio.”) His no-nonsense social-democratic politics won’t get him much cred with the Full Communism crowd. He records his show not in Brooklyn or Los Angeles, but in a studio he built himself in his modest Westchester home. His hair is too groomed and his taste in clothes too preppy to qualify as “Dirtbag Left.” Nor has he ever attended an n+1 release party. “Not only have I not attended one,” he says, “I have no idea what that means.”
And yet he’s astonishingly plugged-in for a young man in the suburbs. Wondering how Sanders ended up on the Joe Rogan Experience? Kulinski, a frequent guest on Rogan’s wildly popular show, introduced them. “You make the most sense to me,” Rogan told Kulinski on a recent episode. “You’re a normal person.”
Much like Sanders himself, Kulinski’s show has a massive audience that just doesn’t compute with our media’s understanding of “what the kids want” or even “what the left-wing kids want.”
It’s probably for the best - the very woke and very WASP-ish decorum haunting much of the media world is nowhere to be found in Secular Talk. “Corporate Democrats over-focus on identity as a trick to divert you from the issues that unite us all - class issues,” he said on a recent episode. “That Raytheon decided they don’t hate gays or trans people - frankly, I don’t really give a shit what their take on that is..."
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[@lmaololroflcopter]

His kids aren’t even born yet and he’s already failed them

[@HawkBando2112]

Legendary comment. If I could hand you a championship belt for this comment I would. It took me several minutes to stop laughing and compose this.

[@user-ParisFashionista]

Totally

[@NnanaAwa]

Bahahahaha

[@cotydinsmore4868]

So true

[@nas84payne]

😂😂😂

[@michaellicko2746]

Dave just wanted to be liked. The problem is that he fell in with a group who liked him because they saw him as a useful idiot. Now he can’t go back.

[@Aeroldoth3]

Lefties were mean to him over an aritcle he wrote, so that "pushed him to be conservative", and now he's stuck with people who reject him as a person, call him an abomination to his face, and would applaud his death. But lefties didn't like his article. He has nobody.

[@omglaserpewpewpew]

Yep, the number of bridges he has burned in the process is too high to count.

[@Phantus00]

Well said.

[@TheBasicDanTV]

Sounds a lot like Candace Owens, too.

[@robertnicholls9917]

Yup, it's like he's in jail now, headed toward solitary confinement; no turning back now.

[@philipdillon83]

"are you gay?" "well, my husband's gay" One of the only funny things I've ever heard Dave Rubin say.

[@wileysells1279]

What?! Is this for real?

[@user-kk4es3li1p]

@@wileysells1279 7:29

[@DojoVII]

I love how Dave continues to make an ass of himself, gets owned by everyone in his videos and is like "Yeah, I'll upload this"

[@50jakecs]

Apparently, the funding he gets to run his podcast (or whatever it is) must be good enough for him to throw his spouse, his children and his self-respect under the bus

[@vanation321]

@@50jakecs I kind of pity him in a way. Imagine disrespecting yourself that much. What a joke.

[@AWSVids]

Hey, he just likes ideas, right? He's representing the bad ones.

[@jeremyn4397]

We are so blessed to have Rubin as a icon to the right. He helps shine a bright light on how idiotic their positions are. Rubin is in-advertently a great comedian, I laugh at him everytime I hear him talk.

[@Webshooters1]

He's done more for the left as a conservative than he ever did being on the left.

[@b.o.e.t.h.i.u.s]

So freaking true

[@shuheihisagi6689]

Its almost like he is actually a left wing pundit parodying a right wing pundit

[@ronaldomcbugerson]

He’s a physical representation of Cognitive Dissonance

[@robinsss]

to Kyle it's completely logical for Dave to hope that his kids turn out straight because they would not have to experience the persecution and discrimination that gays experience

[@christophergarrett7082]

Can you imagine pandering to people who hates you based on who you are.

[@zenbear9952]

It's the most pathetic existence I could think of

[@Kai-tn4yx]

Like being a white liberal?

[@wilcee238]

@Kai swing and a miss lady.

[@thesauceman8457]

@@Kai-tn4yx like being a human republican

[@robinsss]

Kyle misquoted Dave Dave said the ideal FAMILY is a father a mother and children he didn't say the ideal couple is a father and a mother

[@slip6hazard9]

I honestly for the life of me cant fathom how Daves Husband is totally fine and supportive of Daves actions. As a gay man I can't imagine my partner not only agreeing with those that say being gay is a "Disease of the mind" and that we as a couple are "Less then" any heterosexual couple. Like no amount of money could justify pushing the idea that we are second class citizens.

[@Aeroldoth3]

I'm guessing 1) He never watches/reads anything Rubin says in media 2) He really enjoys Rubin's money. As a gay man myself, I'd cross the street to avoid Rubin. And his sellout husband.

[@slip6hazard9]

@@Aeroldoth3 It's got to be the money because Daves Husband is also his in studio Producer. Which means he's probably right there everytime Dave goes on Camera and agrees with people who say 'ish like "Being gay is a disease like Alcoholism".

[@ShitFuckPiss]

Yea man its the money. 100% just grifting at this point

[@gvv6167]

@@slip6hazard9 your argument should stand on its own merits you shouldn't have to use identity politics

[@donnydogpiss4533]

@@gvv6167 Absolutely! Shouldn't bring identity politics into a discussion that's inextricably steeped in identity politics! Great point!

[@RecMike]

"As a Christian--" Let me stop you right there, pal. I'm going to ignore everything that comes after that preamble. Dont waste your breath or my time.

[@Ar1AnX1x]

this discussion reminds me of that Joe Rogan story about his neighbor's kid who had two gay dads and Joe was like "the kid looked a lot happier than most kids, so I donno..." and his Conservative guest basically had nothing to say

[@plasticsoul9051]

Dave Rubin must really looooove money.

[@Ar1AnX1x]

and must really have humiliation fetish as well

[@printo316]

Dave Rubin reminds me of Samuel L. Jackson’s character in Django Unchained.

[@lazyrmc]

He's not nearly as manipulative as Sam Jackson was in that movie lol

[@nickthompson1812]

Haha, no. It’s not that bad. But I get your sentiment

[@thatindiandude4602]

@@nickthompson1812 agreed. Rubin is not nearly as smart.

[@eugeneimbangyorteza]

At least I buy that Sam Jackson is a genuine racist

[@HawkBando2112]

Candace Owens* Clarence Thomas* and every POC that's along for the white supremacist grift.

[@daryno9048]

I swear Dave Rubin is like The Deep from The Boys in that he’s so pathetic that he’ll do anything for approval

[@accountsequity5587]

The peak… of embarrassment

[@charleswolfe6849]

Michael Brooks would've loved this

[@RichO1701e]

RIP

[@jesse_cole]

"That's when you know, you might be in bed with the wrong people." Oh weird, that's what conservatives say about Dave Rubin too.

[@nas84payne]

😄😄😄

[@Ar1AnX1x]

"I know I'm an abomination from your point of view and you think I'm gonna burn in hell because I don't hide who I am but I gotta say, I really love the money coming my way." -Rave Dubin, Art of Grift.

[@Alfador42]

"If ultimately they both turn out to be straight - that's fantastic if one of them turns out to be gay - that's fine too" LOL it's almost like being straight is the better option here according to the conservative gay man himself.

[@Ainttrippin]

lmaaaoo yeah like winning $1million in the LOTTO would be FANTASTIC -- but winning $100 that would be fine too.

[@anmolt3840051]

Self hatred is the only explanation for a gay conservative

[@michaeld4861]

Right. On the scale I definitely consider "great" to be above "fine". Those poor kids

[@Ainttrippin]

@@anmolt3840051 I wouldn't go that far. But yeah pretty weired when they are outright "Republic" and don't acknowledge like 50% of their "party" hate them.

[@Trexatron]

Dave Rubin is right, but he is a coward for not owning up to it.

[@Jenamphetam1ne]

I will never forget Joe Rogan rushing to defend Dave Rubin by calling him "cognitively limited"

[@lilinkbitch]

😭😩😩

[@Inquiringmind0]

Joe Rogan is a compassionate man.

[@patchwurk6652]

Is that a defense of Rubin? Because that kind of sounds like he called Rubin too stupid to even be considered.

[@redacted_vombat5742]

@@patchwurk6652 nahh to Rubin it's a badge of honor

[@patchwurk6652]

@@redacted_vombat5742 I mean hey, if he takes denigration of his intelligence as an honor, I'm only too happy to "honor" Rubin as much as he likes. XD

[@Kilmoran]

"If one of (my children) turn out to be gay, that's fine too." Just not ideal, apparently. His greater point seems to be that because society shuns anything but the ideal, that everyone should capitulate to that ideal instead of finding their own happiness and perhaps changing what is considered the ideal. Even though it is utterly mutable and is not the same in every place at every time, Dave Rubin is saying to just give up being anything but what others expect of you if you want your life to be easier.

[@Aeroldoth3]

Rubin pushes the conservative lie that most common = best. Het relationships are most common, therefore they're ideal. Same-race relationships are most common, so they're best. Christianity is most common faith in US, so it's true. It's the exact same christian mindset from a millennia ago, that left-handed = satan touched. Most common = best, therefore rare (like homosexuality) = bad.

[@seanmatthewking]

Not really, because his own life is non-ideal but his definition

[@akmal94ibrahim]

Straight is fantastic, gay is fine. Fine and fantastic are two different levels of adjective.

[@Kilmoran]

@@akmal94ibrahim Rubin is a sad mess...

[@Kilmoran]

@@seanmatthewking Yup, that is literally what that sad shell of a man said trying to keep the money flowing... I am not in any way defending his position or words nor his self deprication for the masses. I just wanted to emphasize a portion of it. I do not believe he is correct on any level of this.

[@JamesCarter1998]

I genuinely don’t know who’s more pathetic: Dave, or his husband for staying with a man who CONSTANTLY publicly disrespects their own marriage.

[@yinlux6885]

Ha!!!

[@Dust514rocks]

I heard his husband helps Dave with the production of his content I'm some way, so they're probably both equally pathetic

[@yinlux6885]

@@Dust514rocks Soulless frauds.

[@akmal94ibrahim]

They're probably the same. Both are grifting the right.

[@RiceBiomedicine]

They're just empty vessels chasing money - there's no conscience or reasoning to try to appeal to.

[@livelongandtroll9108]

*"Who is tolerant? (...)Well, here’s the surprise: It’s actually those “scary” right-wingers..."* Dave Rubin, 2018

[@ColonusStudiosus]

Yeah, the entire grift is not ageing well at all.

[@livelongandtroll9108]

@@ColonusStudiosus Yep, notice he changed from "they are the tolerant ones" to "let me blame their intolerance on the left".

[@ColonusStudiosus]

@@livelongandtroll9108 just like Kyle says, you can't be a libertarian conservative, or libertarian anything for that matter, and pander to religious nuts. You simply can't. Especially if you're "interested in ideas", as he claims to be. And you can't pander to them mainly because religious zealots don't care about "IDEAS".

[@insightfulhistorian1861]

@@ColonusStudiosus Interesting that I've never seen Rand Paul, the self-described libertarian, call out Mike Pence or MTG on their Christian theocratic bullshit. Conservative libertarians may disagree with evangelicals, but I rarely if ever see them openly fight each other. They both seem to join forces to fight "the left" as a common existential threat. Why? Because identity politics (especially race) overrides all their massive differences.

[@MP-db9sw]

He actually said it very clearly the first time: if theyre both straight, thats fantastic. If one of them turns out to be gay, well, thats… fine. Its ok, I mean, its only one of them. He’d still have one hetero kid so yea, its… fine, I guess.

[@rubytuesdayism]

It’s so telling he’s speaking in this way- he hasn’t started parenting his children yet…he can say these things because he’s not yet cared for or comforted or answered to a real human-the reality of what he’s saying will hit WAY different when a child of his is in his home and heart and looking to him to explain the world and be accountable to.

[@Inquiringmind0]

I think he adopted a kid recently, or is in the process of adoption.

[@Aboertmann]

He's going to have a rude awakening.

[@Inquiringmind0]

@@Aboertmann You are quite right.

[@rubytuesdayism]

@@Inquiringmind0 he’s awaiting the birth of two children via surrogacy (the irony he is also engaged in assistive reproduction when those he falls in with are absolutely obliterating this path to family creation) in October.

[@Unclejamsarmy]

This was exactly my thought. And he’s so dumb and so transparent that I wouldn’t be surprised if we publicly see that shift - at the same time he’s such a shameless careerist grifter I wouldn’t be surprised if he does change his mind personally/at home but does his best to hide it and keeps going with his anti gay Christian conservative public persona.

[@adayinforever]

That kid that asked the question is so in the closet.

[@Ar1AnX1x]

imagine if a bunch of conservatives had a time travel machine and they went back and talked to the founding fathers and learned how secular they are they'd start calling them globalist commies or some shit and get triggered as they constantly do about everything

[@neiladlington950]

Uhmm, just a reminder that they all left the motherland over religious reasons; for practicing their particular religious beliefs. Religion was pretty much the rule of the day for anyone coming from Europe and though it might not look like it does today it was nevertheless something you were or respected. The constitution wasn't written to protect secularists, it was written to protect their rights to practice their type of Christian worship (other religions get the benefit of that but you and I both know that those other religions were most likely an afterthought at best) and the new bourgeois belief in self determination. So it is secular but in the context of nothing resembling these times.

[@fiannaduncan6859]

@@neiladlington950 you're confusing the founding fathers who created the United States with those people that came over centuries before them. Those that came over and founded and settled the colonies, did come over for religious freedoms. The founding fathers were born in America and were mostly deists at best, some even anti Christianity to an extent with their criticisms.

[@david.stachon]

That parody account is constant gold. So great.

[@JustSomeGuy]

Dave Rubin: The Man With No Backbone.

[@ramirocatasena9478]

hey, I'm glad to see you here, it's good to listen to everyone a little and not fall into a bubble, I also love your channel

[@dodevoeten]

3:41 Rubin said: "If both turn out straight, that's great! If one turns out gay, that's fine to". Kyle: "oh, so it's equal now". No dude, he used "great" vs "fine". That isn't equal to anybody anywhere.

[@dat_crit_combo7039]

Some are just more equal than others

[@ardemua]

Yeah, Kyle should listen to people more.

[@sthubbins4038]

BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU GRIFT FOR

[@tylerhackner9731]

He’s so sad but so funny

[@MrJWTH]

ironically based on his standup he’s actually funnier when he isn’t trying to be.

[@akmal94ibrahim]

Should've just showed this clip in his stand up.

[@yarnpower]

The ideal family is one where everyone gets along, respects and helps each other out.

[@michaelserwetnyk1607]

It’s a shame that the Dave Rubin clips KZbin channel got taken down. Every video from that was pure gold

[@johnmoore1495]

As someone who’s father died when I was a year old there is some genuine substance to 2 gay parents not being “ideal.” It’s simply not possible for a mom to truly be like a dad and for a dad to truly be like a mom. With that said tho if we allow single parents to raise children there’s no reason we shouldn’t allow gay parents to do it. There’s plenty of kids in foster care who would be much better off with gay parents than they would be staying in the system.

[@coreyw2124]

What he should have said was “I would prefer my child be straight because it’s just one less thing they have to deal with. In the same way I hope they are tall or attractive. They won’t have to deal with figuring it out and accepting their own sexuality. It’s just one more thing that the majority of people don’t have to wrestle with while growing up. Also obviously it’s wildly more important that you accept yourself and as far as parenting goes it’s also wildly more important that the parents love the child and are trying their best than their gender or sexual orientation.” That would be his counterpoint anyway if he’s sticking to his original argument. God Dave Rubin sucks lol

[@kakahass]

Best part of video is Kyle watching the video and casually vaping 🤣

[@guyute6386]

it's pretty lame, actually.

[@RiceBiomedicine]

Poor dude's going to have respiratory issues in a decade or so - inhaling any sort of vapor or smoke chronically isn't healthy for the lungs.

[@ScottJB]

I love when Kyle goes in on Ruben. He's such low hanging fruit but it's so entertaining to see him get destroyed

[@neotheboxer]

It almost sounds like he isn't happy with himself. That to me is very sad. Does he doubt his own love? Wow.

[@xyzmediaandentertainment8313]

RAVE DUBIN I AGREE WITH THAT

[@nickbunch1]

how to fuck up an argument by adding just one more step in logic. lol

[@jeremywilliams5311]

To be fair, I would agree that ideally Dave Rubin would raise his kids to be as unlike him as possible.

[@shuheihisagi6689]

He would do it without even trying. No one wants to be like Dave Rubin.

[@ralphkarnuah8639]

lmao the “oh God” in the beginning was funny.

[@bmr8408]

The 3EB vocal interpolation sent me! 🤣

[@Pumpkinking64]

Notice how Rubin says his kids being straight would be "fantastic" but his kids being gay would be "fine". This dude is full of self loathing, it is incredibly sad.

[@midnightman5139]

It’s like unintentionally shooting yourself in the leg and try to rationalize it just so you don’t look stupid. The problem is that trying to justify it is just as dumb as the act itself. That’s Dave Rubin in this clip.

[@bobbybstakes103]

🎶 I wish you would step back from that ledge Dave Rubin🎶

[@lukejanis2016]

I feel like Rubin doesn't believe most of the stuff he says. And he's constantly trying to make his audience happy and keep giving him money.

[@judefernandez9234]

But he genuinely believes he's a comedian

[@Galermolat]

Ahahaha the face he makes when he realizes he’s been had is amazing ahahahah

[@larry2timezlarry2timez66]

I don’t want my boy to get his chin slapped

[@wendyflores1092]

LOL .... laugh at Rubin is my new favorite thing.... 😂

[@MarkArandjus]

Third Eye Blind reference outta nowhere :D

[@jengathecat]

You should make this a weekly event - Dave Rubin contradicts himself!

[@eugeneimbangyorteza]

The ideal the ideal, my brain might just be on recovery mode from high level ideal

[@thelizardkingg311]

I truly don’t think he understands what the word “ideal” even means 😂

[@JS-Justice4All]

Love the show keep it up ! Better than any news channel. Calling it like it is we are so similar I love it. Here for life!

[@Ixnatifual]

It’s hard to overestimate the importance of how far the founders went out of their way to ensure the Constitution is a strictly secular document.

[@aprescoup]

"The American Founders sought a republic ruled by a “natural aristocracy” of able and moral men." Their "morally" was expressed in the genocide of the native population, the designation of black men(slaves) as 3/5th of a man and the relegation of landless masses to non voting 2nd class citizenship. Far as women went...fuggetabouthat. Let's not mythologize and turn it into something it wasn't?

[@Trexatron]

The consitution is inherently not a secular document because of the context in which it was written. The consitution restricts the power of the government to infringe people's God given rights. Modern leftists directly oppose this idea, so instead of admitting that the United States was not founded with our modern idea of religious freedom, and that the 'separation of church and state' did not exist for most of American history, they just rewrite history. State funded churches existed for nearly a hundred years after the consitution was written, and blasphemy laws existed for even longer than that. Unfortunately, leftists will only defend the constitution in the pretext of being able to mold it to their modern leftist standards. They have no respect for tradition, which explains why as soon as the constitution or any historical figure disagrees with them, they immediately denounce it or them as incorrect and of no significance to the modern day.

[@rcisneros310]

Kyle, you are conflating two concepts. 1) For CHILD REARING it may be "ideal". The data is not in for 2 same sex parents. It may be the case that because of the differences between men and women bringing different benefits to the table for raising children, that in the aggregate it is beneficial. 2) Being gay or straight for LIVING LIFE or ACCEPTANCE can be equal.

[@cg-constantlygrowing1896]

*sings* Wish you would step back from that ledge Dave Rubin!

[@henryburton6529]

I’m bored of Rubin videos but couldn’t resist this one.

[@sthubbins4038]

It really is delightful

[@Anthonycheesman33]

Can we admit a 2 parent household is ideal I feel like you’d even piss people off saying that lol.

[@joe94c]

2 parent, yes. But it doesn't have to be mother and father

[@traplover6357]

Can we admit a 3+ parent household is ideal? I feel like you'd even piss people off saying that lol

[@waltergrace565]

@@joe94c Sure, but it's ideal.

[@joe94c]

@@waltergrace565 mother and father? Why?

[@FNLNFNLN]

Eeeeh. Number of parents doesn't matter at all. What matters is that the kid has the resources and attention they need. With most single parent situations, both resources and attention is difficult to provide. Two parents are better at it, and more than 2 (i.e. communal parenting) has been the norm for most of human history. If you had a single parent who was given enough money that they could spend all the time they needed looking after the kid, the kid would turn out fine.

[@moochoman9948]

'Dave, please stop, you have to stop man' 😂😂😂😂😂

[@faysalals1]

Im Gay but obviously id prefer my son to be straight. Not because its wrong, but its much easier socially to live as a straight person.

[@brucifer2332]

It's confirmed, Rave Duben doesn't know what "Ideal" means

[@josec1538]

Might as well say that its ideal to live as a white person in our society lol wtf 😂

[@interdimensionalsteve8172]

"My husband's gay" is a cute response to that audience.

[@adammartin180]

He's like the kapos at Auschwitz during their meetings with the Nazi SS officers

[@davidchidester5463]

Third Ey Blind cover album when, Kyle?

[@MrCdrant]

The hilarious thing is stating that it is your perception of ideal if your kids are heterosexual because you place value on having biological grand children. That is at least a sound argument for most rational adults, but he doesn't say that, because he's too stupid to.

[@publican90]

Well Dave I’m glad to see you’ve found the “tolerant right”

[@shyguy778]

If the multiverse theory derived from Einstein's work on the theory of spacetime singularity is indeed a reality, then somehow, somewhere, in a parallel spacetime continuum that is completely different from ours, Dave Rubin is the President of the United States. Heh ... Science, huh?

[@zefarmer]

How to twist yourself into a pretzel in 3 easy steps by Dave Rubin :D

[@hudsonrolfe9633]

Roob doesn't actually answer the kid's question of what attracts him about conservatism. He just says all different people should be tolerated (including himself as a gay person), which is NOT a conservative ideal.

[@aprescoup]

Other than as a cynical, non materialistic and, thus, not offensive to the liberals' donor class, political ploy, LGBTQPlus "rights" are not a liberal ideal either. On everything else, once the rhetoric/propaganda is excised, the two parties represent the interests of their mutual, War Industry and Wall Street profiting donor class.

[@Kevin-wb5jl]

If I described one thing as “fantastic” and then described another thing as “fine” then I like one thing more than another.

[@JaridNeuhaus]

For the love of God 6:18 I always love me some God references from Secular Talk. Thanks Kyle!

[@malenaqueteimporta5729]

The ideal is that children are happy, safe, healthy and loved. That happens in families where the Adult(s) are happy, safe and can love.

[@GamingJoey]

The fact that his husband doesn't leave him when he says anti-gay stuff either means he knows everything he says is just BS for the money (or they have a very abusive relationship)

[@Ghoulstille]

He's like a huge neon sign that says "this is not how to be! on either side!.

[@judefernandez9234]

Wasn't expecting that Third Eye Blind reference @6:14

[@drg8687]

How does normal and ideal get conflated without any objection?

[@thomasmackelly7685]

dave’s kids are going to hate him

[@TreyDieterich]

I could be wrong, and even though I generally agree that Rubin is not that bright, it kind of feels like Kyle is deliberately misinterpreting him to dunk on him. Seems to me Kyle is operating on an ideal world where people all treat each other respectfully. I think Dave is talking about the ideal that the world socially accepts right now. Like... It would be less painful and difficult for his kids if they were hetero because of all the bias in the world. It still doesn't quite track with his Christian Conservative stuff but if that's how he's looking at it then I kind of understand what he's getting at.

[@RandomU5erName]

Rave Dubin has a humiliation kink

[@mrxxsesshomaruxx9642]

Every time Dave Rubin gets a "tough" question he fucking crumbles and it never stops being hilarious.

[@andrewfinch76]

6:12 Kyle listens to Third Eye Blind confirmed

[@spellman007]

I'd prefer my kids be the ideal. it's not really controversial at all. most people feel this way.

[@steelersguy74]

See Kyle, we like this. More of this please. Less of running interference for Rogan.

[@ThePoliticrat]

I’m on shrooms. This is my first time.

[@FredHMusic-gr7nu]

“If my kids are straight that’s FANTASTIC, if they turn gay that’s FINE too”. Dear god!

[@martins.4240]

That's what they call doing a cringe.

[@robbiem4624]

I don't know this for a fact but would not be surprised if one day this becomes true that he turned into like a Milo Yiannopoulos type. He leaves than divorces his husband for a woman than marries her and has kids and claim it was the extreme left that turned me gay. While he still sleeps with his husband and stays married but for only appearances. Does anyone think i am far off?

[@br0dy32]

Nice Third Eye Blind reference 👌

[@Shikhar_]

Dunking on Rubin will always be a fun pastime.

[@kylewalter3111]

Rightwingers, a family can be anything. All it means is people you trust and are close to. As my adopted grandma said " There is family of blood and family of the heart and that there is no limit to the latter" You and the religious book you don't read don't get to decide what a family is

[@Ar1AnX1x]

Rightwingers are usually terrible parents, that's why they're so worried about it, a lot of kids with Conservative Parents either abandon them or they still have a distant relationship because they're too loyal to leave behind their terrible parents.

[@kylewalter3111]

@@Ar1AnX1x Yep! My siblings and I are one of those families

[@Ar1AnX1x]

@@kylewalter3111 I'm sorry about that, on the bright side, it makes you tougher.

[@JCYoung-ni4cy]

Thank you social media. It used to be you had to have some intelligence and talent, but apparently not anymore. How did Dave Rubin even get where he is? Wasn't he a failed stand-up?

[@your01Aj]

Why should I give a single F about what other adults choose to do with their own lives?

[@migthirtyfive8799]

Dave got a perspective that he had not considered or completely thought through. Now he can think about it, fortify his belief or change his opinion, etc. That's the great thing about conversations with other people.

[@akmal94ibrahim]

He's probably gonna get tired with all that "high level ideas"

[@kylanmcnichols6525]

The mother/father scenario IS the ideal if we stop playing dumb. It's how we all got here.

[@johnpoole3871]

I don't think people are playing dumb. That is the way to have kids that are biologically related to both parents. Whether or not that is the ideal arrangement to patent the kid depends on the circumstances.

[@kylanmcnichols6525]

@@johnpoole3871 by playing dumb I mean that we're trying to wave away the obvious in lieu of a laugh about Rubin dunking on himself and it devolves into team sports. The bottom line is that the ideal family has both a mother and a father, a child needs both, and there's no scientific or social debate that's going to uncover something we don't know, it just is the way things are. Like water is wet. People would rather virtue signal than have a tough conversation that may hurt some feelings. (I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings.) I feel like the conclusion on the left these days is, if any feelings get hurt, the opinion MUST be bigoted and racist. It's just silly.

[@richardhobbins9054]

How can he say, the country was founded on Christian values, when its foundation broke about half of the ten commandments. Thou shall not kill. Thou shall not steal (land) Thou shall not covet thy neighbours property. Thou shall not have false Gods (money) etc etc

[@paltrax]

The level of mental gymnastics he has to perform to have this make sense is ridiculous, he's probably in too deep now, he can't walk back now lol

[@semperterra3235]

I think probably what Rubin should have said with regard to his sons being straight or gay, is that the probability is that they will both be heterosexual, with a small probability of one of them being homosexual, and a tiny probability of both so, but that he would accept them regardless, and it's not something he will have any control over anyway.

[@monroepeck5408]

It seems more that he’s talking about the ideal being the balance of the feminine and the masculine which is most easily portrayed among a female and a male. It would make sense to me that a more effeminate male with a more masculine male could simulate the ideal better than some straight couples do, but that doesn’t discredit the fact that the ideal is a masculine and feminine influence on the child rather than too much masculinity or too much femininity

[@soysaucehairdye7869]

Lol at the Third Eye Blind refererence. That first album is insanely good. All the strongest songs on it are not even the singles like 'The Background' and 'Motorcycle Drive By.'

[@griffmustard]

The Reality of the Reality, is the true Reality ~ Rave Dubin ~