Dave Rubin: Maybe iPhone Vids Can Replace Government Regulations

[@TheOutsider69]

Dave Rubin inspires me to pursue my dreams because if someone that dumb can be successful, maybe I won't do too bad.

[@cynisturb]

Trump wasn't inspiration enough? He is dumb as fuck and became president.

[@seanwjones07]

Dave "The dumbest guy in the room" Rubin.

[@donaldmartell3729]

I think about shit like this all the time. If someone like Michelle Bachmann can win office so can I lol

[@anotherrandomer]

Matt Bevin is my inspiration. He and Dave Rubin showed me not to be angry at my fuck ups in life.

[@TheOutsider69]

Gay Bottom Proud of His Bottom Money.

[@erronblack1]

Joe thought he was so full of shit at one point he actually asked Rubin if he was high. Let that sink in.

[@Xakslied]

Erron Black lmao I know right

[@ZachTheRantingGuy]

Erron Black Totally lol Even Joe Rogan knows deep down that Rubin is a partisan hack and a clown.

[@cl9826]

That's awesome

[@karlmarx809]

Zachary Xavier Lol reminds me of his first sit down with Steven Crowder when Rogan took him to task for generally being an uninteresting political hack. I think Rogan just gets upset when he feels like someone is using his platform to just say left/right wing platitudes and talking points rather than have a real conversation. He also went off on Thaddeus Russell a couple times for doing a similar thing from a left wing perspective.

[@jthom0027]

Well yeah, it was the part of the conversation where Rubin said that Candace "climate change is false because right wing talking points" Owens would win a seat in Congress one day. Rubin is either high or incredibly ignorant.

[@The5armdamput33]

A random dude with a cellphone isn't a safety expert.... They're not going to know what to look out for....

[@lizzy-wx4rx]

Underrated comment. THIS is the reason why his entire premise is nonsense. Unlike the pollution of the past, today's pollution is mostly in the form of invisible toxic chemicals used in manufacturing (like the Teflon debacle) that cause cancer in extremely small amounts. But sure, put your health in the hands of random people walking by factories with cell phones, not government scientists tasked with protecting public health.

[@appleneworleans4018]

_"Homeowners who perform unauthorized electrical work on their homes without the appropriate permits, or who perform work on others' homes without a license, face stiff criminal penalties. In New York, for example, false representation or violation of the state electrical work code is a misdemeanor. Fines range from $500 for a first offense to as much as $5,000 for a third offense, as of 2011. A third offense also carries the possibility of up to six months in jail, in addition to a fine"_

[@The5armdamput33]

lizzy Dave Rubin wants Dorothy from across the street to watch out for asbestos....

[@greensquare6235]

The5armdamput33 Not to mention that no one has the time to be living their life AND be an inspector for every product they use. Economic libertarianism is retarded.

[@Greasyspleen]

And they don't have much of a voice. Random dude could post a video on Facebook, but I doubt a video about his neighbor's porch having an improper attachment to a load-bearing beam is going to go viral.

[@trevorgrover5619]

As an electrical engineer who designs power for buildings, Joe Rogan is 100% right.

[@Diogenes_ofSinope]

It's mostly impossible to be wrong on this type of issue when you're not on the republican side of things. They just scream their lies of the top of their lungs to make it seem like their point has remotely anything against your's.

[@zachbergmann7916]

Stefan Molyneux says things like they're common sense to make you believe it. And he's really good at it.

[@30yearoldmanthatgetsbullie44]

no I would say that joe is empirically correct on this issue...

[@dadagan8815]

Joe is right people (companies) cut corners all the time. This is why nuclear power stations do not belong in the private sector.

[@darren871]

I am also an engineer. Industry standards set by third party experts within the industry are completely different than Federal government agencies instituting regulations.

[@TMMx]

This is sad. He clearly has no idea what he's talking about.

[@Red-rj7sr]

Yo you watch secular talk?? I love your channel dude!!!

[@banquetmeal663]

Been in construction for 5 years and i laugh when a stupid hipster whos never picked up a hammer in his life says building regulations are bullshit.

[@thisfool89]

He never does. Not on a single topic he speaks on. He is a complete moronic jack ass.

[@Onlyrealmusic4life]

Yeah that’s the scary thing about social media too. Anyone stupid person can have a platform and have a following of stupid people as well. it’s scary.

[@joelkeane3160]

I don’t think it’s sad. It is maddening. It is annoying. It is frustrating: that charlatans like this have found their space in political discourse. What is regulation anyway? It is standardisation, it is an application of knowledge, it is supervision. All of these things are completely essential to a functioning workforce and to success markets. Fuck’n douche bag. I’m so happy that charlatans like this are starting to be more broadly criticised.

[@Protoman85]

I'm not against regulations, but I'm against regulations. -Dave Rubin

[@Irish807]

That's what Koch money does to someone.

[@darren871]

Theres currently 81,000 PAGES of regulations just in the Federal Government alone... There is a fundamental difference between being against all regulations and thinking that 81,000 PAGES is ridiculously excessive.

[@MorelloZzT7]

@@darren871 okay. I think I get what you're stating correct me if I'm wrong. People who are not for overregulation might see that 81,000 regulations is possibly one too many being flawed and therefore is that leads to overregulation. People who are against regulation in general are people who want small government?

[@tochtli098]

Imagine him with Giorgio Tsoukalos' face: "Look, I'm not say it is deregulation, but it is deregulation".

[@aero4277]

Rave Dubin loves snorting Koch...

[@JustErics101]

But Kyle, how can you beat such great arguments such as "gubmint bad"?

[@SlitDrum]

Dave Rubin: *"Socialism is not cool."* You know what's cool? Replacing Govt. Consumer Protection regulations with Snapchat, IPhone Vids and KZbin Like Buttons on the internet!

[@DrummerMatt4253]

“i think there are better ways than the government...” *gives literally zero examples of a better way to regulate*

[@pastadude01]

As a lib left you should hate the government as much as rubin

[@Mingle481]

I’m some areas yes, but the government isn’t inherently evil.

[@timo1949]

dude how are you so left libertarian lmao

[@Mingle481]

Ti Mo Bernie 2020

[@SeyidAr]

Yelp. Yelp is your friend. Bad reviews will stop climate change.

[@artificialavocado9652]

The average double cheeseburger eating American knows nothing about roofing, electrical, plumbing. When the roof collapses during a storm in 5-10 years like there isn't really much "competition" can do about that.

[@JeevesAnthrozaurUS]

"We don't need consumer protection and quality assurance; Yelp exists!"

[@mdkvisions]

Jeeves Anthrozaur lol

[@minabotieso6944]

What did these idiots argue with before Yelp?

[@ndf3]

So the only thing standing between us and predatory capitalists is a pedantic yuppie writing Yelp reviews.

[@cl9826]

Alex Ferrando just made up theories about two people on an island and one has bread and one has milk.

[@AllinAllisAllweAllare]

Jeeves Anthrozaur as Kyle already made a solid point against this idea of self regulating. If a restaurant is selling rat meat and calling it chicken, people will eventually get the word out to not eat at that establishment they sell rat meat and call it chicken... how many people are going to eat rat meat before everyone knows about it?

[@What7641]

somone tell Dave Rubin that buisnesses can pay to get good rating on yelp

[@roscoedash6673]

Not only that, but Yelp! doesn't even cover 10% of the economic activity in the US. Most economic activity happens where consumers can't even see it. The person who buys the house 95% of the time isn't working directly with the builder, for example. With most goods and services, there's a middle man, which makes consumer reviews difficult.

[@1987Confused]

Yep and working as a contractor I certainly have never seen a builder hand a inspector cash to look the other way.

[@FNLNFNLN]

But, but... free markets

[@WhyIHatetheWorld]

Rogan gave one of the best defenses of regulations I've heard yet.

[@yamiyomizuki]

Michael Schofield the point is not that regulations areyou perfect and consumer review is worthless, theway point is that consumer review does not make regulation obsolete

[@giovanniruffinoni4832]

The only "liberal" who agrees with Ben Shapiro and Steven Crowder spews conservative talking points, more at 11

[@LunaticThinker]

I used to defend him... I feel rather foolish now.

[@thereisnospectrum]

Jpeterson is another self labelled "liberal". The term is used by ideologues who apologize for the classically conservative shit like immigration and jail. Kamala Harris+Obama have more in common with Reagan, all 3 neoliberals, than Bernie. 'Liberalism' is an amophous ruse for cynical justification because it must reconcile its inherent contradictions to save face, namely giving rights to a certain group over others

[@karlmarx809]

LunaticThinker At least you saw the light.

[@Marasma101]

He's not a liberal

[@jacencade4019]

LunaticThinker your not a fool because they chose to sell out. If you agree with their views defend why. But you recognized when he was spouting nonsense so you are no fool

[@HarryS77]

Rubin: "...but intellectually I like that argument." I.e. I hear your facts and real world consequences, but ideology.

[@darkslayer175]

How the mediocre have fallen...

[@What7641]

Flint still doesn't have clean water. No snapchat meme is going to change the pipes

[@dontknow3865]

Yeah but they're poor so they don't matter /s

[@HexDominator]

Well said.

[@mweibleii]

I Was Sent From the Future Flint and Flint's water was and is regulated by the government. And Flint isn't the worse of it. Not by a long shot.

[@punchcat1234]

Ōkami-san yes and the republicans in the state cut off their money break it then sell it to their corporate masters

[@mweibleii]

punchdogggy Flint and Flint's water was and is regulated by their DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED government. And Flint isn't the worse of it. Not by a long shot. SEE CALIFORNIA.

[@richardpowell4281]

You do have a vested interest if it saves you money. The biggest thing Libertarians miss with this argument is time. If you build a shitty building it may take 20 years for that to be known. If you put stuff in peoples food that is carcinogenic it may take a decade or two before that becomes apparent, if ever. Meanwhile they can be making huge profit margins. This has been born out dozens and dozens of times. Its such a fickle argument.

[@knavishknight]

@Richard Powell: A free market actually may never exist. Even regulations against fraud, theft, racketeering, money laundering, etc. to protect "negative liberties" (i.e. freedom from) are still regulations. Heck, even the market itself (as well as the concept) is completely artificial.

[@cl9826]

In the early 20th century they use to put a poisonous chemical in milk to cut it and sell it to poor people. Libertarians forget, or just just don't know, we've been there and done that. We tried their little ancap bullshit and it tore society apart.

[@chrisdray5325]

This is actually a perfect argument. Reading this comment just gave me a moment of clarity. Thank you!

[@knavishknight]

@Bagpuss Bagpuss: You forgot costs externalized onto the public also.

[@Cui-bono987]

C L agreed. they did it with bread in the UK too back in the day. Bakers would add sawdust into the flour which meant it made the bread heavier as it is sold by weight. A lot of these people don’t realise that these regulations are there for a reason. We are not a proactive society. If the regulation or law is there it is because something happened to make it come about. I’m not saying we need to keep all regulations ever made on the books but when it comes to health and safety (or banking ffs) then maybe put the libertarian free for all thought process away and actually research why it’s there.

[@trajan74]

"I can't believe he asked me probing questions and to explain my position. That's very rude. I never do that on my show." --- Dave Rubin

[@wertytrewqa]

David "yelp review" Ruben

[@BrianCheng24]

Dave Rubin has lost his damn mind in recent years. He's a flat out conservative now while losing his way.

[@jeffpro8]

He certainly has lost his way and it shows from his appearance on the Joe Rogan Podcast.

[@liberalsocialist9723]

@Qwerty Ytrewq conservatives have principles while voting for Trump? There principles are party above nation.

[@Evildoerr99]

It’s because he’s a Koch brothers puppet who is literally just pushing a billionaire agenda to deregulate and implement a flat tax so his investors can keep more of their money.

[@pauldavidson6088]

@@liberalsocialist9723 I think what he meant by conservatives have values is that they actually believe something. Dave Rubin is such a fucking idiot and you can tell from the way he changed his position on everything in the span of a year that he doesn't believe shit. He is just spewing talking points.

[@MMAoracle]

To be frank, becoming a conservative is not losing one’s mind

[@omnilisk279]

"Privatize regulations" means "Let the foxes guard the chicken coop" for all my Southern bros

[@mckenzie.latham91]

That's literally what it is, good one.

[@cfytcf]

The chickens who don't want to be eaten will simply move away from the fox. "Chicken wire" and "wood" are needless human-imposed regulations stopping the free-market interaction of chickens and foxes.

[@omnilisk279]

cfytcf Good luck "moving away" when the fox is standing right at the coop's entrance with razor sharp teeth.

[@cfytcf]

Omni Wings _WHOOSH_

[@omnilisk279]

No, I got that you were doing your own bit. I was just adding onto it.

[@kinggamez2667]

“They wana build things that are good” Looool. That guy has never constructed something ever in his life.

[@coletrickle1775]

Jose Gamez Lol agreed. No the Fuck they don't want to build it well. They want to build it as fast and cheap as possible. Regulations and codes make sure they build it as close to right as possible.

[@HarryS77]

This video goes really well with the video Kyle did of Milton Friedman's argument for why it was okay for Ford to knowingly manufacture the dangerously defective Pinto.

[@planartist8519]

He obviously does not have experience with how society as a whole works, he has no real world experience. He does not understand that things are being produced all the time, and these things are made out of chemicals and materials and structures, and these things need to be properly tested and results need to be harmonized and agreed upon, good lab/institutional practice is necessary and labs and institutions need to communicate and collaborate. This is regulation, this is harmonization, and good practice is being required by and implemented by not only by the government but also by the institutions that collaborate and test and execute. Regulation is in everyone's interest because it makes things safer, more efficient and cheaper overall.

[@coletrickle1775]

Regulations are not good for everyone. They are good for everyone except ceo's, coal plant owners, wall street exects and the like. Anyone who profits from pollution or the suffering of others hates regulations. The rest of us can appreciate and understand why regulation is necessary.

[@chrisslack51]

This is kind of right most buildings I have worked on go above and beyond minimum code but yeah a lot of buildings would be suboptimal if we didn't have inspectors

[@estivel15]

Joe mopped the floor with that idiot and it was priceless LMAO.

[@lettherebelamp5102]

2:00 Dave Rubins like “oh crap this guy may know what he’s talking about.”

[@rixlbg]

Libertarians live in a hypothetical rosy world where there are not inconspicuous interests, people are altruistic and always think first in their fellow human being. In a way, I envy them for being that gullible. In reality, people do illogical and petty things all the time and, if you do not put limits to their greed, we are going to end with a broken society where everyone preys on the other for a quick, easy and irresponsible buck.

[@notsayingimbetterthanyoubu3187]

They imagine a Corporate utopia, but the end result is Neo-Feudalism. The end result of the Libertarian agenda is the movie Mortal Engines, where cities grow legs and fight and cannibalize other cities

[@beaverones41]

I have never understood this mentality of "regulations are bad". There are certainly a possibility of regulations being unnecessarry but if that is really the case you just remove that regulation. Regulations makes things safe, makes food more healthy, makes it so people cannot be exploited, protects everybodys interest for example of keeping the water clean instead of letting individuals pollute the water because that would create more profit for them. Government is not perfect and especially in the USA there are alot of complete idiots in power but we need something to put the same standard on everybody and the government is the only thing that currently can do that.

[@antman1672]

@Beaver Ones Because there are tons of regulations that are put in place for good reasons that end up stifling the economy and massively increasing prices. Government certifications for example, pricing limits, the California solar panel law, ect, ect. For every good law you envision when you think of government, libertarians see people arrested for feeding the homeless, children's lemonade stands being shut down, uber being kicked out of a city to please the cabdriver unions.

[@Shikoi73]

But but but...in Rubin's libertarian paradise we can post mean reviews on Yelp when people die from drinking poisoned water. Isn't that so much better than government telling businesses not to poison people?

[@ZedNebuloid]

It stems from the Koch Brothers pushing mass propaganda to convince these right-wing idiots that the rich shouldn't have laws.

[@antman1672]

@Purple Nurple Regulations don't effect the rich, the poor and middle class are the ones affected by the regulations.

[@antman1672]

@Purple Nurple All the rich people who own multinational corporations are unaffected by regulations. They get their middle class lower management people to skirt the law and avoid any backlash themselves. They also have tons of money to hire lawyers to make sure they are free from liability. Mom and pop stores just trying to make a living get shut down/ fined, or forced to spend money for certifications, by agencies they never heard of, for not following rules they had no way of knowing about.

[@wgjung1]

Like they do in Somalia. No regulations, just all the freedom you want and I would add to an Iphone also a good AK47 or similar.

[@SenatorGrape]

Just go to Somalia and start filming everyone. That should solve all their problems.

[@mdkvisions]

juan gomez if only that had yelp

[@wgjung1]

"If a regulation falls in a forest and no one is around to regulate, does it kill the libertarian idiot?"

[@yishaqdavid2029]

Watch wearechanges videos where he goes to Somalia. There are tons of regulations just no one has the money to follow them. Its not a land without law, its a land where they do not have the ability to enforce the laws and regulations.

[@wgjung1]

I have a car that has no motor or wheels, is it still a car? Yes, but it doesn't matter.

[@estivel15]

If you wanna know how a society would look like with no regulations just watch Mad Max: Fury Road.

[@prezmeji5641]

Estivel Garcia lol

[@TK-rd3yn]

Estivel Garcia or play Final Fantasy VII

[@ZedNebuloid]

Or go live in Somalia.

[@akburst510]

Afghanistan, Somalia, etc have the smallest governments on Earth.

[@bpdmf2798]

Estivel Garcia You mean life would just be reboots of classic movies and action and fucking wild ass costumes and shit. I didn't realize I wanted the end of regulations so badly until now.

[@RicardoMoralesMassin]

I love how conservatives, or wtf Dave Rubin call himself, turn completely naive and optimistic towards corporations as soon as big bad stepdad Government is mentioned.

[@brandonc5376]

Ricardo Morales dude seriously though. these people say "politicians and the government is so heinous and terrible, we should count on business men who have made there livings often time by screwing over the little man and the average person. IM A FUCKING GENIUS"

[@darren871]

I love how progressives, who rail against the "system" purpetrated by "corporate politicians" all the time, turn naive and optimistic as soon as big brother Federal Government socialism is mentioned.

[@johnohara4788]

Darren the fact the you conflate government and socialism tells me you probably don’t know what either of them actually is

[@ocek2744]

Dave Rubin just outlined the very big lie about not having regulations: that businesses want to do it better than regulations tell them to. No. It's been proven businesses want to save money. To save money they can cut corners. This isn't something that is unique to any size of business. From small to large, cutting costs and increasing profits is the goal.

[@darthutah6649]

This is why you need competition. If one business decides to charge too much or make low quality products, that busienss will lose customers to other businesses.

[@Gooong]

@@darthutah6649 Construction is the best place to cut corners. You can bid for jobs cheaper than the people who would do it right and the damage would happen years after the building is done. Then you can shut down the company and start a new one. So much money to be made.

[@darthutah6649]

@@Gooong Perhaps it could work in the same way that Underwriters Labratories certifies goods such as electric equipment.

[@dirrdevil]

@@darthutah6649 Companies will compete by seeing who can cut the most corners. Companies can still compete in a regulated way! Sports are competitions with regulations. Basketball requires dribbling. Football does not allow punching people in the face. Soccer does not allow most players to use their hands. They still compete! Don't be an idiot.

[@andream4989]

Rubin and Owens both keep saying "I genuinely believe". I can genuinely believe on unicorns, doesn't make it a reality.

[@Nestalgba92023]

Andrea Morgan Oh yeah! So this is like horseshoe theory, again!

[@WackyJack322]

“There’s no need for laws against murder. If someone gets killed we’ll just avoid the murderers.” - Every Libertarian Argument

[@RobertGuilman]

JustJohn spot on

[@robinvik1]

What I don't get is that arguing that regulations are unnecessary is not actually an argument against them. I mean, if the regulations don't do anything, why do we need to get rid of them? It's like saying "I would never rape my daughter, so we should make it legal for me to rape my daughter."

[@kjhuang]

Cavecat I think the argument is more, regulations do nothing to protect consumers while at the same time making things harder for businesses.

[@robinvik1]

I think the argument is more an amorphous blob that changes depending on what is convenient at the moment.

[@DaveLH]

"We don't need speed limit laws because most accidents are caused by people who drive too slow." -- Actual libertarian argument I heard once

[@alexanderkorte-stapff6824]

So Rubin is saying: A company could poison a river, killing humans and animals, but it will maybe lose some customers (only the ones who care about the environment) when someone films it with an Iphone? That seems like a very good idea to me, hbu?

[@timrscott]

And when an apartment building collapses killing hundreds, that company will be sued into oblivion, so it's all good.

[@TheLumberjack1987]

Fred Funk can´t be sued if there are no regulations in place to define what`s not allowed, they would just say "I broke no law or regulation, this was just bad luck"

[@darren871]

@@TheLumberjack1987 you can still sue for negligence regardless of regulations. Negligence is a crime and has nothing to do with regulations. Completely different branch of the federal government.

[@TheLumberjack1987]

@@darren871 negligence is a crime indeed, but only in cases where a law has been broken, if it is not illegal to dump chemicals into a river then you can´t sue them for negligence. Regulations are just laws which say what a certain industry has to abide by and if those regulations don´t exist then there is no law broken.

[@darren871]

@@TheLumberjack1987 no... Regulations are not laws. Again, completely different branch of the Federal government. If we got rid of every single regulation, laws would still exist. Laws existed in this country long before there was ever any sort of unelected executive branch bureaucracy.

[@Yusuf1187]

Libertarianism = Theory Worship They have some valid points and examples, but they vastly overstate what the actual implications are of those examples and how much deregulation it can justify, and in what aspects of the economy. Ultimately they take on too extreme of a position in the name of believing absolute theory while ignoring the real world evidence that balances agaisnt their points.

[@TheLowBrassDude]

Not even theory, Hypothesis worship. Something that hasn't even gone through observation and comparison

[@jon7911]

@@TheLowBrassDude I’d argue that communism or pure socialism is theory worship. Some nations have had mixed economies including the US and become successful but purely socialist states stagnate and fail. While communism has never been tried and most likely never will in an industrialized society.

[@thehumanity0]

You can really tell Rave Dubin's brain is still in recovery mode from taking in so many high level, important ideas.

[@slamrobot6584]

Rogan, pick better people to talk too. Id rather watch Eddie Bravo talk about aliens.

[@MrStupididy]

aidan theroux rogan at some point is just like ‘no, no.’ Like not even an argument he heard some BOOLSHIT and said naw you’re spewin bullshit.

[@trippplefive]

If Rogan pushed back on a more consistent basis, i would be okay with the fact that he has given a large platform to these right wingers to spew their shit unopposed. He'll push back once in a while, like he did with Dave Rubin, but he doesn't do it all the time.

[@tasheemhargrove9650]

trippplefive Exactly. Rogan is great and an intelligent guy but he really seems to have some sort of sympathy for Right Wing ideologies, and indifference toward the Left.

[@ianbenjiman]

Or flat earth (lol).

[@doommslayer6411]

Slam Robot658 well he did talk to alex jones...

[@joshc6569]

Dave Rubin knows barely anything about anything and he's influential.

[@arkinyte13]

I’m glad Rogan called him out rather than just let him spout his nonsense unimpeded.

[@boomzy9532]

"Oh fuck that guy is polluting the river, let me take out of Iphone and record it.... Oh fuck my battery just exploded and lit it on fire because that wasn't regulated either"

[@crownedpleb9747]

Lold from my s7

[@JBHACKSAW]

People who read Ayn Rand's books and convince themselves that greed is good were greedy to begin with.

[@carlosjurado4508]

The whole point of construction and regulations that Dave made really shows he's never worked a blue collar job in his life. Kinda explains his disconnection from reality a little there

[@infinit888]

Agree. Totally out of touch with the realities on the ground.

[@nicbongo]

Right!

[@ericl2495]

I am now dumber for having listened to Rubin here

[@justincaviness]

Eric L I award him no points and may God have mercy on his soul.

[@karixening]

After I heard this conversation I quit watching Rubin Report lol

[@lucasbentley3589]

Someone’s house catches on fire first thing they’re gonna do is instantly contact the person who owned the house before them and ask for the name of his electrician from 10 years ago who he will immediately remember who fucked something up and then proceed to write a negative Yelp review. All is well that ends well.

[@darksydesamy]

Rubin lost the plot over a year ago.

[@bernman23]

He gained some funding that is similar to Shapiro's. Both make equally indefensible arguments. But some buy it because they were frustrated by sjw's and they exploit that while sneaking in what his funders really care about.

[@khanyithegreat]

Steven Crowder is in that boat too, The thing that turned me off on liberals is how stupid they can be, everything is racist, and men are woman and woman are men and there are no differences because there is no such thing as gender, all that sounds crazy imo.

[@bernman23]

I consider myself a progressive leftist, but I don't believe in that junk either. People are partially informed by millions of years of evolution. Males and females had different experiences because of gender roles to survive symbiotically. Men and women also have different physical compositions and hormones. The human mind is powerful and can override this by experience. This is supported by grossly disproportionate incidence of sexual abuse as children and the animal studies if read in full and not cherry picked. That said, people can do what they want as adults if it doesn't hurt others, and I don't put negative value on it. I get in some arguments with fellow self-proclaimed progressives about this, but at the same time what does that have to do with the price of tea in china. Doesn't mean I'm going to support 8 wars or any, to be the only non 3rd world nation w/out public and/or universal healthcare, pre enlightenment views on education and tax policy, bank deregulation/bailouts, private central bank over public, deny climate change, etc. I don't get why some people need to accept all or even the vast majority of principles of a ideology. That's really how libertarians think, but even I come across progressives who think that. They think they are enlightened because it's new-wave and well-meaning, but I'd say they are just different type of conformists. Serve the divide and conquer. But people moving right as a result in a country with 2 far right parties when grafted onto the modern world need to own how silly they're being too. That's what corporatists want and people are voting against their own interests.

[@voiceofreason467]

+bernman23 You can be frustrated with SJWs as well as hearing David's bullshit and realizing he's full of shit.

[@dougcasey6117]

khanyisani Buthelezi Yes, I feel the same way, add to that them wanting to disarm my ass and have my wife alone with no gun miles away from the police. They don't get their shit isn't as rational as they wish to act like it is, I'm with them on the economics and foreign policy personal freedoms, but these damned fools want to endanger my home my wife and kids. That is a big deal it plays a big part in how I vote, I'm not down with the limousine inner city yuppy scene and most of America isn't there!... It's a big impediment for them they need to learn and drop the anti-firearm junk.

[@daverumpel]

I don't have strong feelings against Dave Rubin like many have had ever since his change of views. But that interview with Joe Rogan made me realize he's not very bright. Like he really is not bright. It's obvious he hasn't spent a lot of time thinking his views through. Watch the entire interview if you can.

[@maggyfrog]

the short clip in this video is more than enough evidence that dave rubin has quite a severely impaired intellectual capacity to form coherent ideas that, really, the only reason he gets to talk about anything is because of free speech. it's not because he has anything to say, it's just that he is allowed to say whatever's at the top of his head

[@eliekhoury3106]

Yeah I was thinking the exact same thing

[@TheD2JBug]

Is Dave Rubin Stefan Molyneux with hair?

[@SenatorGrape]

He has a sports jacket too.

[@stevezelaznik5872]

TheD2JBug Stefan Molyneux makes my blood boil but he’s at least an original thinker.

[@TheD2JBug]

lol you said 'thinker'

[@eios76]

lol

[@Commander1keller]

Is that the I-16?

[@gaviaarctica4769]

How the hell does Rubin measure cadmium levels in river with Snapchat?

[@TheJavaMonkey]

Joe’s right. I used to work as a scaffolder, and whenever they thought they could get away with it, everyone would cut corners-not just other scaffolders, but every contractor involved in any capacity. But they never cut any immediately obvious, important corners, because while these men feared few things in this world, they definitely feared safety inspections. Regulations are necessary.

[@piku5637]

Idk how people like Dave Rubin, Sargon of Akkad and Steve Crowder are taken as intellectuals.

[@jthom0027]

I have yet to find an actual intelligent "intellectual" conservative KZbinr. Any of the jokers I either see on Rogan's podcast or in debates never do very well. They really only have the Ayn Rand or right wing talking points to spew then nothing at all.

[@jthom0027]

I've also noticed that they all hate identity politics and millenials making every thing about themselves yet they are the first to hijack conversations and make it only about their own identities (Rubin's gayness) or their own issues with certain people (Sargon's beef with Sarkisian). I think there is a lot of self hatred going on with these guys or they are just doing whatever they think their fan base wants.

[@jayzonedc6474]

Sargon at least is still a somewhat left wing person despite the shilling he does for the alt right.

[@canaan5337]

Sargon is not alright the alt-right hates Sargon and Sargon is not a fan of them either he is not a right winger either he is from the United Kingdom a place where you automatically have health care because you are a citizen and he doesn't want to change that which puts him to the left of Hillary Clinton Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer just to name a few Democrats here in the United States most of his gripes with the left come from groups like antifa black lives matter social justice Warriors and intersectional feminists people that claim there are more than two genders and other aspects of the left that he sees as the serpent swallowing its tail. That's why he bitches about the left more than he does about the right because as a part of the left he wants to left to be better and don't expect as much from the right

[@mrmomo26]

Canaan yeah but thats literally all he talks about. After you realize he hates SJW's you wonder why else you are subscribed to his channel. He doesn't talk about important politics basically ever and all his videos are 40 minutes long. Dont need to listen to someone bitch for that long even if he is on the left

[@TheOutsider69]

Rubin speaks as though he's never heard an argument contrary to his own. So weak.

[@byteresistor]

Dave "I'm a classic liberal" Rubin

[@Crazyollie123]

byteresistor sounds more like an ancap in this tbh

[@juanrayo3511]

He makes Ben Shapiro look smart.

[@andrewdevine3920]

At least Shapiro writes and understands his own arguments. Rubin just parrots whatever he's told, and does it poorly.

[@boshamburger123]

Here after Miami’s building collapse. This really hasn’t aged well for Rubin lol.

[@LAIDBACKMANNER]

This is what a poser sounds like.

[@entset]

LAIDBACKMANNER I do not even think he belives what he says. He may be just a troll.

[@I_Get_Computers_Puting]

Yup

[@vee2easy]

he’s trying to make the Libertarian points, very poorly.

[@banquetmeal663]

@@entset He jumped on the right wing gravy train after the 2016 election just for the views. He's a hack.

[@banquetmeal663]

Also I love listening to a guy whose never been in construction say regulations are bullshit because muh free markets. You would be suprised how many fucking idiots are building the apartments you live in.

[@OAlem]

Rogan: if my house burns, yours does too. Rubin: "My dad wasn't in construction, so I'm not privy to that little stuff". Dictionary definition of disconnected.

[@yellownine]

"you've got all the facts, nice job. but what i'm saying is that I BELIEVE xyz"

[@franksmithjr9630]

Should have mentioned Grenfell tower in London ask the survivors about cheap building material and saving money

[@varunnarain50]

Joe Rogan prolly lookin back at this like "Wow I had to explain this stuff to a grown ass man".

[@biblesucks1116]

Right wing guest: "The earth is flat" Rubin: "That's good; it's all about the battle of ideas!" David Frum: "Trump basically has no idea what he's doing". Rubin:" WOAH WOAH WOAH are you sure about that?"

[@misshissy7997]

Biblesucks111 your username😂

[@ALeaud]

Dave Rubin is the same guy who called Alex Jones and Glenn Beck “centrists”.

[@darkrider962]

Don't forget Stefan Molyneux!

[@ericcooper6575]

Dave brilliantly demonstrates the folly idealism. All Dave has to do is pick a bad regulation and argue against it. Instead he argues that regulation is bad full stop. Then Joe slaps him in the face with reality and he realizes that he sounds like a fool. An intellectually honest person would engage in self reflection but instead he just gets caught in a cycle of rerunning the argument from the top with altered phrasing only to end up in the same untenable position.

[@brewii4991]

I used to inspect gas distribution lines. The thought of no regulation scares the shit out of me. The majority of foremen and crews did good and safe work at all times, but I definitely knew that I had to keep a closer eye on some. They would try to work too fast and skip or shorten tests because they wanted to get home early. A foreman told me once that an air test (pressurizing the line to check for leaks and strength) was just about done, all good. Then a crew member walked up and said he couldn't find the pressure gauge to start the test. It was a 2.5 hour test, so I don't see how the foreman could've been mistaken. They pressurized the line "again" and found a leaking fusion joint near someone's gas meter (probably from moving the pipe before the fusion was cooled- again, cutting corners). I think the foreman was planning to show me a gauge right after the line was pressurized and claim it had been like that for hours. All because, no shit, HE had a date to get to.

[@Boobalopbop]

What Rubin here is so absurd and it’s not about Rogan’s experience with construction. I have no experience in construction but I like to know that the house I’ve had built wasn’t made with some materials that are extremely flammable or prone to rot or water damage. I know nothing about home building, so I don’t even know what to check for… But the house has been inspected and appraised throughout the building process, so I feel safe. This is actually a perfect example of what we need government for.

[@Matt-ty6ij]

I worked construction for a year, and I can tell you Joe was absolutely right in the clip. We cut as many corners as we could and just made it look acceptable when the inspector came by. It's pretty sad to be honest

[@bpdmf2798]

matt olsen cooks do the same, and they are feeding you. Pretty much any job where you are the one doing and kind of physical labor or repetitive task, or both. Btw, you probably ate a steak that fell in the garbage and covered in rotten food and just got rinsed off and re-seared at some point, if not multiple times.

[@SalmonFume]

lol so true

[@SalmonFume]

yes because yelp

[@StraightPunkEdge93]

In the words of my lord and savior Hank Hill "That boy ain't right"

[@Lunaxxor]

Did he mention he was gay?

[@chubbubdreamer6904]

Too bad he didn't mention he's an idiot.

[@aeron6747]

Did who mention who was gay? And why would that be relevant even if whoever you're talking about was?

[@Xzamilloh]

And he's pro-choice... don't forget that. And he used to be for single-payer healthcare until he demonstrated he didn't know what it meant

[@HIRUKOC]

Aeron L It’s a running joke about Dave Rubin. Since he likes to bring up that’s he’s gay for almost all of his talking points even though it has nothing to do with what he is trying to justify.

[@underdog8012]

Kanye West can hold this L all I heard you say is he is gay, so idc what was said after that, he must be right

[@ShinMadero]

1. Not everyone has time to read yelp reviews for every product or service they buy 2. Businesses can pay to get good yelp reviews 3. There is a time delay for word to spread about how bad a shady business is 4. Some businesses are too big to care about their public perception (We can all write a bad review of BP right after the oil spill. It would do nothing) 5. Sometimes the problems with bad construction will not manifest until years later 6. Bad construction can hurt or kill innocent bystanders who did not engage in the transaction If Dave Rubin thought about his argument for 5 seconds, it would be obvious why we need regulation.

[@Dawt_Calm]

@04:08 Rubin *"That implies these businessmen, whatever industry they're in, that they're immediately gonna be like 'ha! The regulations gone start polluting the water!"* Actually, they would say that. What those hypothetical businessmen would do is perfectly rational by free market reasoning. They'd realize that they pay $$ to safely get rid of their waste. If the regulation was gone it cost less to just dump it in a nearby river. So some executive does a cost evaluation and figures they can save X amount if they simply dump it. He Makes the proposal to save the firm money, thus justifying his salary. Then the waste gets dumped instead of safely processed. The point being "wanting" to pollute the water has nothing to do with it. If it's the free market making the decisions it's about financial incentive. Frankly, caring about the environment does not = marketshare or ladder climbing in a company.

[@redgladius9919]

Exactly why I don't watch Dave Rubin. He always sounded full of shit, even before he went full conservative.

[@EEYore-py1bf]

He's a liberal. Everything he says is in the purview of liberalism, i.e. making the government as small as it can be in order to prevent tyranny, while still protecting the citizens from external threats. Social programs are anti liberal.

[@redgladius9919]

Isaac Brock I think you're confusing liberal with classical liberal. Classical liberals fall in line with that psuedo-Austrian bullshit. Liberals do not.

[@mercurialsilver5688]

Isaac Brock Allowing companies to poison and kill our families isn’t preventing tyranny. Just the opposite, really. What horrible and inhuman people these classical liberals are.

[@s3rp]

You do know that private entities can also be tyranical not just governments ? And no negative Yelp reviews aren't going to prevent that ....

[@ianbenjiman]

He's a classical liberal.

[@pdc4930]

Btw you can pay Yelp to hide negative review and prominently show good reviews.

[@mercurialsilver5688]

Patrick Cox Which is a bonus in his eyes.

[@nicbongo]

Probably, and you probably can pay for bots to generate false positive reviews etc.

[@kalicula7718]

"Autistic libertarian ideas" *Steven Crowder screeching in the distance

[@hondata974]

Steven Crowder is the type of moron to call libertarians like Ron and Rand Paul and Dave Rubin "left-wingers."

[@zebrastreet9993]

“Ok well my Dad wasn’t in construction” LOL

[@BScott7220]

"Competition will force people to do better work." Yeah, that's why every single repairman, plumber, electrician hired to fix something in my home can't wait to give an earful about how everything here is "builder's grade." The only competition is homebuilding is who can use the cheapest, shittiest materials and do the worst work possible.

[@babbisp1]

Finally. Kyle devotes a vid to Dave Rubin.

[@haoli5986]

I’ve waiting the day for a long time

[@dylancrist2591]

Hao Li same

[@in_wino_veritas]

Great to see that. But when it's too often (like @ majority report, where they devote at least one video to him every week, while laughing about him), it can get annoying.

[@TCt83067695]

in wino veritas Wait you watch majority report? Why would you do that to yourself man?

[@MachonyLeeoun]

TCt83067695 To be fair, it's funny to watch him debate libertarians

[@Spencerwalker21]

First Last time I was this early Dave rubin was liberal 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jammyjamjars6995]

Spencerwalker21 he still is liberal

[@EEYore-py1bf]

He never stopped being a liberal. You aren't one though, clearly.

[@EEYore-py1bf]

He's not oppressed. Gay people are not oppressed. This bullshit victim narrative just brews homophobia, stop it.

[@jammyjamjars6995]

HasanJF why not?

[@EEYore-py1bf]

I'm gay you collectivist fuck.

[@MoonatikYT]

2 or so years ago Dave Rubin seemed alright, had an interesting show, interesting guests, interesting conversations... Now he's just a parrot for conservatives and reactionaries.

[@moravec481]

2 or so years ago he was not being funded by the Koch brothers

[@wfyfwfyf]

I like how Joe comes from an informed, experienced position and dismantles Dave's points without even trying.

[@Gunman610]

"If there aren't regulations, but are going to cut corners" "But they're going to cut corners anyway" So, Rubin's argument is that there shouldn't be laws because people are going to break them no matter what. Awesome.

[@tylerm7300]

Yep lmao

[@richardpowell4281]

Dave Rubin is one of those people that makes me wonder what a Kyle Kulinski Heel-Turn would look like. I'm kinda being serious like something in Kyle's brain flips due to a chemical imbalance, maybe all the shit in the water, something scrambles his brain and all his ideologies just flip. I wonder what that would look like, I don't want it to happen, it just makes me curious.

[@TheLoneChemist]

Richard Powell agreed. I’m sure that Rubin serves as a cautionary tale for Kyle; the dangers of abandoning your ideology to become a complete hack

[@GordieKat]

Chemicals in the water can make you reverse your ideology?

[@jorgemcdonald1776]

All it takes is 1 bad day

[@ericfranklin1802]

Not necessarily sure this would be what would happen if Kyle flipped because Dave Rubin is a terrible hack because he does an incredibly poor job explaining or justifying those “points”.

[@TheDropdeadZed]

Chemicals in the seltzer turned Kyle into a big seltzer sellout

[@yeahmem]

in order for self regulation to work the general public has to be very intelligent, compassionate, with moral integrity and principled not to mention far less greedy. The culture at least in the US is very very far from that.

[@bpdmf2798]

yeah it also needs to be a tight community that isn't too big. They never use examples of business in tokyo or nyc, it's always little bakeries or small contractors.

[@anarchistathena]

That's why I've been getting interested in seasteading. I think governments are largely negative, and the best way to deal with them is to create new systems of governance on floating cities.

[@alicankunta]

That's why libertarianism is just like communism; they are both dependent on a ultimate-good will society, which could only be real in a utopian fantasy land.

[@revelationreflection]

Alican Kunt communism has practical ways of getting there

[@RobertGuilman]

Alican Kunt EXACTLY, you took the word right out of my mouth

[@ZedNebuloid]

I'm glad Dave joined the Republicans. He fits right in over there.

[@hdjdndjskksjdjdn]

He is a moderate democrat though

[@coletrickle1775]

Rand J.C. No he isn't, He's a complete idiot who seems incapable of thinking things through.

[@coletrickle1775]

Rand J.C. Also, by what measure? Objective or in the context of America? A moderate democrat in the US is a war mongering right wing Fuck everywhere else. We are shoved way to the right as a country. The democrats are not left on the objective political spectrum.

[@k_e3735]

Cole Trickle: Dead on. It's amazing how the democrats are portrayed as radical leftist liberals by republicans. However that's not the case. Most are completely right wing corporate nazis.

[@alveolate]

ideologically speaking, rubin is either a deluded mess or a straight-up paid actor shilling for his right-wing supporters. possibly both.

[@pwgearedturbofan2348]

The funny thing about anti regulation people is that they're also usually the "law and order" types. Regulations _are_ "law and order" for markets. Regulations are extremely beneficial, great for productivity, and great for safety if they are implemented right.

[@Anthropomorphic]

Replacing government regulation with internet outrage.

[@ritabutler1951]

This guy is nuts. Someone dies because he missed the Yelp review of some electrician.

[@MaartenvanRossemLezingen]

Libertarians want to abolish all regulations except those that have to do with copyright and property. You can't have an armed force protect you from having polluted water or the things Joe Rogan described but you can have them protect the rights of people to own infinite amounts of assets.

[@HarryS77]

I think some right libertarians are at least opposed to some forms of intellectual property laws.

[@alixmordant489]

Harry Stoddard, only if they want to steal them.

[@geoffreysorkin5774]

Remember that that only applies to Right Wing Libertarians. Left Wing Libertarians want to abolish property as well. They live in a fantasy world where everyone will share and be good without a government. To be clear, I'm saying Left Wing Libertarians are stupid as well, not that Right Wing Libertarians aren't stupid.

[@MaartenvanRossemLezingen]

ogogo ogpgpg What do you mean by free?

[@SlaughteredDecay]

Yup, and that's why libertarianism is just privatized tyranny.

[@TheTruthDragonNJ09]

Dave Rubin is the only person on KZbin I've ever unsubbed AND blocked. That dude is sooooo goddamn inauthentic...

[@geedee1264]

Thats the word. Or insincere. He does not hide this well at all

[@ashokvarma8502]

My rage for rubin increases day by day 😡 He lies in a systematicly appealing way on both sides of spectrum Hate the guy

[@azv343]

Dave has not lived a SINGLE DAY in the real world. What it must be to live in that beautiful bubble.

[@davidsmith-uw2ci]

Joe Rogan is 100% right if they cut corners now they will most definitely cut corners a whole shit load more without regulations any kind of regulations

[@andreasj864]

I kinda liked Rubin's show at first when he split from tyt. I continued to do so for a while, but then it all became the same thing over and over again. And he almost never call someone out on anything. So I unsubscribed, no reason to stay when I really feel no interest to watch anymore. Did anyone need to know this? Not really :p

[@coryruff1302]

Among conservatives there's such a double standard of logic between businesses and individuals. Businesses should only be encouraged through the market, and the government can't punish them to get them to act responsibly. But with individuals, the government should have a heavy cruel hand to brutally punish crime to make sue citizens act correctly. It's a moral defense of the capitalist system beyond all else.

[@nmonye01]

The Koch brothers great hope:Dave Rubin...a true fool.

[@karlenemckie5704]

Dave, Denial is a symptom of having a Koch problem...

[@JevPrivate]

Rubin: " My dad isn't in construction so I don't know all the little stuff" That's the fucking point Rubin The general public arent EXPERTS in everything so we have regulation FROM experts to protect the people who don't know better. Just because you are sincere it doesn't make you CORRECT. You are WRONG. Just suck it up and act like a responsible adult.

[@wilhelmheinzerling5341]

Oh God another Ayn rand apologist

[@ununseptium7961]

The best example that I could quickly think of about this subject is when Dick Cheney exempted fracking from The Clean Water act. This isn't a deregulation, but it devastated water for millions of Americans.

[@Yusuf1187]

How is that not deregulation?

[@ununseptium7961]

It wasn't ever regulated, because fracking wasn't a thing yet. He preemptively blocked future regulations to help out Halliburton and other cronies.

[@SlXkxmx]

We have regulations because when we didn't people did the exact opposite of what Dave says they'll do.

[@cfytcf]

I used to think Dave Rubin mimiced childlike naivety and stupidity as a means of instigating conversation over certain subjects. He isn't... he really thinks these things.

[@zidneya]

Now I know how Daria (Mtv) felt when she was around her family.

[@yeahmem]

The public has a very short memory on those kinds of things, the only thing that these iphone videos are good for is bringing lawmakers to attention of the problem and if you are lucky they propose a regulation that will fix it.

[@notsayingimbetterthanyoubu3187]

ya exactly the only reason Videos like that go viral = things getting done, is because the people then put pressure on outside forces to intervene and stop the company. Either thru legislation or existing regulations or fines. So videos + government regulations. He wants to remove the part that affects change, and still thinks the change will happen