Dave Smith on Big Tech Censorship, Lockdowns, and Running for President

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@erosmangr74
@erosmangr74 3 жыл бұрын
Dave is the first guy since Ron Paul that I could see making the LP a cultural force to be reckoned with, while staying true to its libertarian principles.
@davidhunt7427
@davidhunt7427 3 жыл бұрын
If one ignores who the messenger is,.. then consider the following statement... *_I know that fewer people are won over by the written word than by the spoken word and that every great movement on this earth owes its growth to great speakers and not to great writers._* ~ Adolf Hitler, _Mein Kampf_ ... as well as ... *_[Humanity] has unquestionably one really effective weapon, laughter. Power, money, persuasion, supplication, persecution, these can lift at a colossal humbug, push it a little, weaken it a little, century by century, but only laughter can blow it to rags and atoms at a blast. Against the assault of laughter nothing can stand._* ~ Mark Twain *_Humor is the great thing. The minute it crops up, all our hardnesses yield, all our irritations and resentments flit away._* ~ Mark Twain *_Irreverence is the champion of liberty and its only sure defense._* ~ Mark Twain Thanks to the internet,.. the spoken word is becoming as powerful as the written word has always been,.. if only people read books anymore. *_You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them._* ~ Ray Bradbury
@khatharrmalkavian3306
@khatharrmalkavian3306 3 жыл бұрын
Paul was 1000x more presidential than Dave and he got demolished. I don't understand why you people keep trying to play a game that everyone knows is rigged.
@davidhunt7427
@davidhunt7427 3 жыл бұрын
@@khatharrmalkavian3306 Give me an alternative that doesn't throw in the towel immediately. If false hope is naïve,.. what isn't?
@erosmangr74
@erosmangr74 3 жыл бұрын
@@khatharrmalkavian3306 First of all, how would you possibly measure being "presidential"? Secondly, running for the LP is not so you can win the election, but so you can manage to reach people with your ideas, and you reach people through the election process that you don't reach otherwise.
@tomdivittis2688
@tomdivittis2688 3 жыл бұрын
@@khatharrmalkavian3306 he actually did not get demolished in 2012, even in the GOP. If not Boehner’s sudden, short bout of deafness, who knows. There was quite a bit of momentum behind him in 2012.
@BestCosmologist
@BestCosmologist 3 жыл бұрын
Dave is one of the best political commentators I have ever heard.
@livewithmeterandnomeasureb1679
@livewithmeterandnomeasureb1679 3 жыл бұрын
I dont ever want to vote again. It doesnt really do anything. But if he runs i may consider it. Im NPA (no party affiliation)
@CigEconomy
@CigEconomy 3 жыл бұрын
@@livewithmeterandnomeasureb1679 Same. I vowed to never vote again after Ron Paul in 2012 but I'm considering it for Dave.
@livewithmeterandnomeasureb1679
@livewithmeterandnomeasureb1679 3 жыл бұрын
@@CigEconomy I don't blame you. The candidates all suck epically usually. The two party system sucks.
@CigEconomy
@CigEconomy 3 жыл бұрын
@@livewithmeterandnomeasureb1679 Well that and I just don't really believe in voting but at this point with the lockdowns and shit I may have changed my mind.
@christophergreyson6953
@christophergreyson6953 3 жыл бұрын
@@CigEconomy Don't think of it as voting to give someone power over you but a way to let the state know you don't support tyranny any longer and are fed up with the state. A vote for Dave Smith is a way to let the tyrants know we are mad as hell and will not take this anymore.
@alanomofo
@alanomofo 3 жыл бұрын
We need to roll back the state !
@ericrodwell8706
@ericrodwell8706 3 жыл бұрын
Our prisons are *flooded* with non-violent drug offenders.
@curjcircelli733
@curjcircelli733 3 жыл бұрын
If you wanna know who our next enemy is, look at who we're funding right now
@dtacherra6063
@dtacherra6063 3 жыл бұрын
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@ghxstleader485
@ghxstleader485 3 жыл бұрын
Abolish it
@michaelmccarty1327
@michaelmccarty1327 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot “DING! Fill her up!”
@shamsam4
@shamsam4 3 жыл бұрын
Dave rules. Also, good of Nick to have him on when they needed to talk.
@user-jx6st1xf6r
@user-jx6st1xf6r 3 жыл бұрын
he dont miss
@sickcommode-odragon4193
@sickcommode-odragon4193 3 жыл бұрын
Nick’s like do you think that was unfair? Dave be like “bruh we moved our group to me wee” Wtf is miwi 🥝?
@qb4428
@qb4428 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for finally talking to Dave Smith. Just to make it crystal clear, this is why Mises libertarians have a beef with Reason: You people offered a quicker and more unequivocal defense of Cuties than you did of basic human liberty in the face of covid totalitarianism.
@ndnrb_
@ndnrb_ 3 жыл бұрын
Because all these companies are owned by the same tribe
@krazykkarl
@krazykkarl 3 жыл бұрын
@@ndnrb_ Which Dave is a part of btw
@ndnrb_
@ndnrb_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@krazykkarl He sure looks like it
@resmarted
@resmarted 3 жыл бұрын
Beautifully put.
@ryanc9432
@ryanc9432 3 жыл бұрын
What?
@MultiTexMex
@MultiTexMex 3 жыл бұрын
If Dave Smith like libertarians ran the LP, I’d quit the GOP, join the LP and never look back.
@hattorihanzo2275
@hattorihanzo2275 3 жыл бұрын
Your state and local LP's is where the action is. Dave Smith is not an outlier.
@TheCruxy
@TheCruxy 3 жыл бұрын
Look into the “Mises Caucus”, all Dave Smith types
@livewithmeterandnomeasureb1679
@livewithmeterandnomeasureb1679 3 жыл бұрын
Fuck man why do people wanna abolish welfare. Not everyone is able to work.
@resmarted
@resmarted 3 жыл бұрын
That's the plan. Seek out your local Mises caucus.
@resmarted
@resmarted 3 жыл бұрын
@@livewithmeterandnomeasureb1679 Why do you think nobody wants to give voluntarily? How many millions of left wingers that think people would die if tax payers werent being robbed? Maybe all those people that think that can give their money to charities that help people unable to work, charities that have a better track record of actually helping people than the government. Stop thinking the only way certain things can happen is through coercive government action. Good ideas don't require force.
@altontisdale2689
@altontisdale2689 3 жыл бұрын
Dave is a sign of the change that needs to occur in political thought
@willfaes901
@willfaes901 3 жыл бұрын
Dave Smith isn't rising, he's already bigger than Jorgensen.
@onseatsjc
@onseatsjc 3 жыл бұрын
Both can be true
@skylanh4319
@skylanh4319 3 жыл бұрын
Pull a daily wire "largest and fastest growing".
@jonnyenough1531
@jonnyenough1531 3 жыл бұрын
That anti racist tweet got a fuck you from me.
@RustyCohle
@RustyCohle 3 жыл бұрын
Whogensen?
@NoNameNo.5
@NoNameNo.5 3 жыл бұрын
Jorgensen was poison
@serenityn9152
@serenityn9152 3 жыл бұрын
If Dave is the LP nominee, I will vote 3rd party for the first time in my life.
@kristapedia
@kristapedia 3 жыл бұрын
Same!
@hoppeanofasgard1365
@hoppeanofasgard1365 3 жыл бұрын
Foe sure
@usnbostx2
@usnbostx2 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think Gary Johnson and Jo Jorgensen got their vote share because of cringey stances, but in spite of them.
@thatonedude675
@thatonedude675 3 жыл бұрын
I’d bet 80% of their vote were the types that just went “I’LL VOTE IN PROTEST” but wouldn’t be able to pick those two out of a three person lineup.
@tolpacourt
@tolpacourt 3 жыл бұрын
I felt like an ass for years after voting for Gary Johnson instead of Trump in 2016. Now it seems like Trump will not run in 2024 and the Republicans are pathetic without him.
@rcolorado2364
@rcolorado2364 3 жыл бұрын
@@tolpacourt lol yeah ironically enough I couldn't vote Gary Johnson because of Weld and hearing Dave bitch about Bill Weld was why I started listening to him. So in reality Bill Weld is the reason I voted Trump and the reason I give any shits about the LP today. Dave for POTUS 2024.
@chuckecheese5251
@chuckecheese5251 3 жыл бұрын
To say Jo promoting BLM was cringe is an understatement imo because BLM openly stated from the beginning it was about the overthrow of capitalism and creation of a communist state which they always state is the only way to make up for past discrimination as a lifelong green I never considered really voting LP but Jo imo killed the idea that LP even really cares about capitalism and then all that's left is drug legalization which is a good cause but not worth a vote and passed it required advocacy almost
@ZeriocTheTank
@ZeriocTheTank 3 жыл бұрын
A good chunk of people definitely voted for them because they wanted to vote for something else not Trump or Biden. I voted third party because I didn't like either candidate in 2016.
@drunkenoctopus6311
@drunkenoctopus6311 3 жыл бұрын
Dave has it a absolutely correct. It’s clear that government is exerting a coercive force on the market. Wether through legislation or threat of legislation. It’s all the same.
@christiansgrignoli3351
@christiansgrignoli3351 5 ай бұрын
Which is against the constitution regarding speech. Can't create a chilling effect
@waynespringer501
@waynespringer501 3 жыл бұрын
Why did Reason pretend that the #1 Best Selling Book Anarchist Handbook didn't exist
@klolwut
@klolwut 3 жыл бұрын
Why would a left-wing outlet care about Anarchist or Libertarian principles?
@BudStickly
@BudStickly 3 жыл бұрын
Your welcome!!
@frankovercrest2317
@frankovercrest2317 3 жыл бұрын
Because anarchism is toxic as a brand.
@waynespringer501
@waynespringer501 3 жыл бұрын
@@frankovercrest2317 Anarchism is a relationship, the only toxicity is your lack of knowledge on definitions
@williamclayton9566
@williamclayton9566 3 жыл бұрын
@@waynespringer501 You clearly have never read "Positioning - The Battle For Your Mind" by Ries & Trout. FrankOverCrest clearly has.
@nicosmind3
@nicosmind3 3 жыл бұрын
I think Dave Smith is the best hope libertarians have had in years. Easily the best candidate, and articulate enough to make a difference. He has the best approach to running yet. To change minds first rather than gaining votes (gaining votes means lying, dumbing down, avoid tough questions etc)
@phamnuwen9442
@phamnuwen9442 3 жыл бұрын
"big businesses are making too much money" -- Libertarians, 2021
@VoluntaryistSkeptic
@VoluntaryistSkeptic 2 жыл бұрын
@@phamnuwen9442 Sounds like you're talking to communists who are calling themselves Libertarians. There's a lot of that going around these days.
@phamnuwen9442
@phamnuwen9442 2 жыл бұрын
@@VoluntaryistSkeptic "Libertarian" can include just about anything. It's not a well-defined concept and it's not based on anything in reality. By the way, the anti- big business attitude I was referring to was espoused by Smith in this very video if I'm not mistaken.
@brendanriley1968
@brendanriley1968 3 жыл бұрын
Dave Smith is a breath of fresh air in politics.👏👏 Listen to him talk about the war on drugs. It’s therapeutic to anyone who has been effected personally by the drug war.✌️ Dave Smith 2024 🇺🇸
@Gronkula85
@Gronkula85 3 жыл бұрын
Good conversation. When will we be seeing an interview with Michael Malice about his #1 Amazon bestseller 'The Anarchist Handbook' and his upcoming book 'The White Pill'?
@franzliebkin
@franzliebkin 3 жыл бұрын
40...45 years?
@breezy_7727
@breezy_7727 3 жыл бұрын
Respect Reason for reaching out and having this conversation
@Hibernial
@Hibernial 3 жыл бұрын
Bare-minimum level of respect I guess. Bending over backwards on blatant tyranny through excusing lockdown policy is just disgusting. Having a seat at the table is what the beltway strategy is, and being willing to throw out good libertarians under the bus for the corporate press’ appeasement (which they’ll never give) ought to be called out.
@breezy_7727
@breezy_7727 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hibernial 100% agree. When I originally made this comment it was before CATO sent a faux libertarian to the corporate press to be a state apologist. I include 99% of reason with the belt way types that sell out liberty to get patted on the head by authoritarians.
@Hibernial
@Hibernial 3 жыл бұрын
@@breezy_7727 CATO’s vice president is a committee member on Facebook’s oversight team for speech regulation. They love to pretend like they’re wielding power when it’s just a carrot on a stick that makes them controlled opposition. That can only lead to as you pointed out in your example willfully becoming a stool to be stepped on. It’s their character type of being an empty-suit-for-rent that’ll leave future generations forgetting about that crowd having at all existed, outside of being a cursory note on digital record.
@nunereclipsereborn
@nunereclipsereborn 2 жыл бұрын
@@breezy_7727 Bunch of Kochsucking bot shill sycophantic apologists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@nunereclipsereborn
@nunereclipsereborn 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hibernial Bunch of Kochsucking bot shill sycophantic apologists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@bjmurrey
@bjmurrey 3 жыл бұрын
Dave Smith gives me hope for our future as libertarians, and americans.
@janiecel
@janiecel 3 жыл бұрын
“When he said “everything” I knew I had to pay attention.
@ryanmcc09
@ryanmcc09 3 жыл бұрын
Great podcast and I feel like it's Dave's first presidential-ish interview
@jonathanaliff6121
@jonathanaliff6121 3 жыл бұрын
I'm worried Dave will lose his edge. If he disavows The Legion of Skanks, I'll be forced to shun him.
@danjames7327
@danjames7327 3 жыл бұрын
He's dropped to mant nbombs to disavow.
@Jesse-qv2ww
@Jesse-qv2ww 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for giving Dave an opportunity to respond, Nick! LFG Davey!
@LegalAutomation
@LegalAutomation 3 жыл бұрын
This is amazing. I LOVE this long-form discussion. Thank you! I would love more of these. This discussion made me change my views on section 230
@dakotas76
@dakotas76 3 жыл бұрын
In what way?
@zerocool5395
@zerocool5395 3 жыл бұрын
We need to roll back the state...
@alanomofo
@alanomofo 3 жыл бұрын
We spy on all of our own citizens
@jrodmcscary
@jrodmcscary 3 жыл бұрын
Our prisons are flooded with non-violent drug offenders.
@ArchieBallCat
@ArchieBallCat 3 жыл бұрын
If you want to know who America's next enemy is, look at who we're funding right now.
@330wiz7
@330wiz7 3 жыл бұрын
Every single one of these problems is a result of government being too big
@zk3212
@zk3212 3 жыл бұрын
Alright guys, lets get back into the show
@mechengineer4life
@mechengineer4life 3 жыл бұрын
Dave is the most effective messenger for liberty since Ron Paul, maybe even better. And he’s still young so hopefully he will keep getting better. Really hope he runs
@RileyHell
@RileyHell 3 жыл бұрын
honestly I wish these two would just start a weekly podcast together. that'd be amazing.
@newguy5672
@newguy5672 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they have a weirdly good chemistry
@jimoconnor4766
@jimoconnor4766 3 жыл бұрын
Nick did a pretty good job here on the interview. Thanks, Nick. Credit where it is due.
@andrewmiller2708
@andrewmiller2708 3 жыл бұрын
POTP > Reason
@spfcasual3786
@spfcasual3786 3 жыл бұрын
They're both good
@joeblo1111
@joeblo1111 3 жыл бұрын
@@spfcasual3786 No
@christophergreyson6953
@christophergreyson6953 3 жыл бұрын
@@spfcasual3786 The red pilled vs the blue pilled.
@Hibernial
@Hibernial 3 жыл бұрын
@@spfcasual3786 They’re both examples of two sides on different trajectories because of differing attitudes between either tolerating or holding to full account the welfare-warfare State.
@hoppeanofasgard1365
@hoppeanofasgard1365 3 жыл бұрын
Reason = blue pilled libertarians, POTP = red pilled libertarians, blue pilled libertarians will never get anywhere, they've been a failure for years now,, Ron Pual showed us the way being the first real red pilled libertarian to run since Harry Brown and Harry brown didn't do well simply because the internet was so much smaller than and his campaign funding was far less than Paul's, all things being equal though the red pilled libertarian will always perform best.
@azrap1054
@azrap1054 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Dave on a debate stage against biden and the republican nominee
@Andrew-nh5zg
@Andrew-nh5zg 3 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't matter. Democrats count the votes.
@tomdivittis2688
@tomdivittis2688 3 жыл бұрын
Even better would be watching Malice as press Secretary. I would watch eagerly tune in to every single press conference. 😂
@NathanGilmer
@NathanGilmer 3 жыл бұрын
It would be a blood bath.
@zk3212
@zk3212 3 жыл бұрын
@@Andrew-nh5zg he could still shake things up and get a movement going
@Andrew-nh5zg
@Andrew-nh5zg 3 жыл бұрын
@@zk3212 Don't get me wrong... I support Dave and agree with a more aggressive libertarian movement. Its just too late. What libertarians should have noticed is that no one's vote really counts. The party that controls the everyday agencies controls the government.
@marcustulliuscicero9512
@marcustulliuscicero9512 3 жыл бұрын
He's got my vote.
@ericrodwell8706
@ericrodwell8706 3 жыл бұрын
The first normal candidate the LP has had in a long time.
@drowjack
@drowjack 3 жыл бұрын
I actually going to vote for him as well
@kaparg
@kaparg 3 жыл бұрын
LP forgot the "right" part of right libertarianism, it's nice to see him as a change
@drowjack
@drowjack 3 жыл бұрын
@@kaparg The one thing I noticed is that Dave Smith doesn't consider himself a right-winger. Probably because he doesn't want to associate himself with the conservative section of the right-wing side.
@kaparg
@kaparg 3 жыл бұрын
@@drowjack thought so, he would have probably tried to get in the republican freedom caucus otherwise, certainly what i would prefer
@onseatsjc
@onseatsjc 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent guest! Thank you for getting him on your show.
@mikek191
@mikek191 3 жыл бұрын
Love Dave. Great talk!
@shane727
@shane727 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see Dave here. Excited to watch!
@tylerdurden6937
@tylerdurden6937 3 жыл бұрын
Censorship is very expensive, it is just another barrier to limit competition...like Parlor, that was one of the reasons AWS kicked them off their servers...they said they were letting people say "bad stuff".
@theextractionpros8276
@theextractionpros8276 3 жыл бұрын
please bring back the Ron Paul LP. Dave gets it, been so disappointed in LP for a long time. We need Dave, ill gladly volunteer in the campaign
@Rhalt
@Rhalt 3 жыл бұрын
Dave is the man. If he keeps getting his way I will *have* to join the LP.
@330wiz7
@330wiz7 3 жыл бұрын
Same bro. Dave is amazing. Imagine him on a presidential debate stage just bodying fools
@GregKingston
@GregKingston 3 жыл бұрын
Great conversation. He knows his stuff. Gives me some hope.
@shinsyotta
@shinsyotta 3 жыл бұрын
Dave has to be the nominee.
@officialdirtmcgurt
@officialdirtmcgurt 3 жыл бұрын
Dave has genuine traction. Most of the right center southern base (the vast majority) are 💯 with Dave. He's living the life our founders meant to establish.
@Xasew
@Xasew 3 жыл бұрын
The longer this went on, the more the interviewer started loving his own voice. Constant interrupts.
@chadjones4255
@chadjones4255 3 жыл бұрын
Ultimately, we need decentralized, cryptographic solutions to the problem of tech and government monopoly. But decentralized tech is really hard.
@williamclayton9566
@williamclayton9566 3 жыл бұрын
Really hard ... .... for now.
@ilovebutterstuff
@ilovebutterstuff 3 жыл бұрын
There just isn't a large market. That may change in the future.
@Killerbee_McTitties
@Killerbee_McTitties 3 жыл бұрын
Even more Technology as the solution for problems created by the use of technology? sounds absurd and dangerous in my opinion. Technology already massively diminishes autonomy and freedom as it is.
@HanStanwell
@HanStanwell 3 жыл бұрын
Lolbertarians be like: We just want gov't to enforce contracts *Big Tech breaks contracts by kicking people off who haven't violated TOS* Lolbertarians: lol that's just the free market, they can kick off whoever they want.
@khatharrmalkavian3306
@khatharrmalkavian3306 3 жыл бұрын
Show me any TOS that binds a social media company to serve you or makes even the slightest hint that they're in any way even obligated to feel bad momentarily for banning whoever they want.
@FazeParticles
@FazeParticles 3 жыл бұрын
Turn them into public utilities.
@torfistrom4549
@torfistrom4549 3 жыл бұрын
Considering the history our government had with the big three car companies I question if these entities where largly government funded into power or not
@abbott5580
@abbott5580 2 жыл бұрын
This Is a terrible point. I can't believe you thought this made any sense.
@zoinks29
@zoinks29 3 жыл бұрын
I have been turned off with reason for about a year or so. Although, this Dave Smith conversation is much welcome.
@dakotas76
@dakotas76 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@ZeriocTheTank
@ZeriocTheTank 3 жыл бұрын
Dave literally described me in a nutshell when he talked about the audience to reach out to. I supported Tulsi Gabbard because of her anti war stance, and pro school choice position. I supported both her & Trump because I wanted to give the middle finger to the establishment, but hated that Tulsi would've joined Trump and the previous Presidents in their needless spending. That explains why I'm so captivated by him and the Ron Paul Revolution.
@NaturalistCapitalist
@NaturalistCapitalist 3 жыл бұрын
Dave Smith 2024!
@TheCruxy
@TheCruxy 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see you here
@Lurch685
@Lurch685 3 жыл бұрын
Reed is a gangster.
@Renwa82
@Renwa82 3 жыл бұрын
Jo Jorgensen lost me when she started quoting Kendi. F&$@ all that.
@Hibernial
@Hibernial 3 жыл бұрын
The straw that broke the camel’s back for me was including that cheese pizza lover on her justice recommendation’s list, on account of some intern’s decision to use her platform for the umpteenth time on social media. If you can’t get your shit together to organize a team that isn’t stabbing you and everyone in the back, you’re not fit to be a leader or a messenger. Just pass the baton to someone better ready.
@lokiprankster9177
@lokiprankster9177 3 жыл бұрын
Dave Smith has my vote, should he decide to run. I would also add abolishing the public sector unions.
@michaelrivell5659
@michaelrivell5659 3 жыл бұрын
Here's why I will supports dave. When face to face with Nick. Rather than pander to a large group of libertarian viewers he confronted it and said what he believes to be true.
@EtotheFnD
@EtotheFnD 3 жыл бұрын
Dave Smith 2024
@pufthedragonCCS
@pufthedragonCCS 3 жыл бұрын
"Paradoxical as it may appear, it is probably true that a successful free society will always in a large measure, be a tradition bound society." F. A. Hayek
@theMickPolitik
@theMickPolitik 3 жыл бұрын
Dave, you running makes more sense than almost anything I've heard in this dystopian age!
@KentuckyObjectivist
@KentuckyObjectivist 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone always misunderstands Rand's position on business and government. She was well aware of cronyism. Hell, it was the major antagonist of Atlas Shrugged!
@nathanparker8555
@nathanparker8555 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was a weird comment on Rand.
@phamnuwen9442
@phamnuwen9442 3 жыл бұрын
Smith seems utterly clueless about Rand in general. She was not opposed to charity. Quotes on the topic: ************************************************* My views on charity are very simple. I do not consider it a major virtue and, above all, I do not consider it a moral duty. There is nothing wrong in helping other people, if and when they are worthy of the help and you can afford to help them. I regard charity as a marginal issue. What I am fighting is the idea that charity is a moral duty and a primary virtue. Playboy, March 1964 The fact that a man has no claim on others (i.e., that it is not their moral duty to help him and that he cannot demand their help as his right) does not preclude or prohibit good will among men and does not make it immoral to offer or to accept voluntary, non-sacrificial assistance. It is altruism that has corrupted and perverted human benevolence by regarding the giver as an object of immolation, and the receiver as a helplessly miserable object of pity who holds a mortgage on the lives of others-a doctrine which is extremely offensive to both parties, leaving men no choice but the roles of sacrificial victim or moral cannibal . . . . To view the question in its proper perspective, one must begin by rejecting altruism’s terms and all of its ugly emotional aftertaste-then take a fresh look at human relationships. It is morally proper to accept help, when it is offered, not as a moral duty, but as an act of good will and generosity, when the giver can afford it (i.e., when it does not involve self-sacrifice on his part), and when it is offered in response to the receiver’s virtues, not in response to his flaws, weaknesses or moral failures, and not on the ground of his need as such. The Objectivist “The Question of Scholarships,” The Objectivist, June 1966, 6 The proper method of judging when or whether one should help another person is by reference to one’s own rational self-interest and one’s own hierarchy of values: the time, money or effort one gives or the risk one takes should be proportionate to the value of the person in relation to one’s own happiness. To illustrate this on the altruists’ favorite example: the issue of saving a drowning person. If the person to be saved is a stranger, it is morally proper to save him only when the danger to one’s own life is minimal; when the danger is great, it would be immoral to attempt it: only a lack of self-esteem could permit one to value one’s life no higher than that of any random stranger. (And, conversely, if one is drowning, one cannot expect a stranger to risk his life for one’s sake, remembering that one’s life cannot be as valuable to him as his own.) If the person to be saved is not a stranger, then the risk one should be willing to take is greater in proportion to the greatness of that person’s value to oneself. If it is the man or woman one loves, then one can be willing to give one’s own life to save him or her-for the selfish reason that life without the loved person could be unbearable. The Virtue of Selfishness “The Ethics of Emergencies,” The Virtue of Selfishness, 45 The small minority of adults who are unable rather than unwilling to work, have to rely on voluntary charity; misfortune is not a claim to slave labor; there is no such thing as the right to consume, control, and destroy those without whom one would be unable to survive. Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal “What Is Capitalism?” Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal, 26 ************************************************* aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/charity.html
@drunkenoctopus6311
@drunkenoctopus6311 3 жыл бұрын
Dave is obviously new to this. He was told sometime in the past by left leaning folks that Rand was the devil. His internal bias prevents him from seeing this is false.
@allysagilbreath
@allysagilbreath 3 жыл бұрын
No, Rand was in favor of government interference in the market to protect businesses and entrepreneurs. I love Rand for her contributions, but he is correct.
@phamnuwen9442
@phamnuwen9442 3 жыл бұрын
@@allysagilbreath Do you reject the idea of a government protecting property?
@grantwilliams630
@grantwilliams630 3 жыл бұрын
Nice. Been waiting for this interview
@markstephens2709
@markstephens2709 3 жыл бұрын
Reason used to be so cool.
@myrealfakename6068
@myrealfakename6068 2 жыл бұрын
Spike Cohen/Dave Smith for the win in '24! Vote Gold because Liberty is Essential. 💛
@EpilepticOrchestra
@EpilepticOrchestra 3 жыл бұрын
Dave already has my vote!
@donovanallen
@donovanallen 3 жыл бұрын
Man, Dave has really impressed me here, once he got up to maximum velocity. Please run!
@chickenfishhybrid44
@chickenfishhybrid44 3 жыл бұрын
I love these arguments when it comes to immigration. "But Americans do use more welfare than immigrants" ok... therefore fuck it?.. opem the border?
@bob2time286
@bob2time286 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks reason for bringing him on and asking real questions .. Dave has got my vote
@wagz72
@wagz72 3 жыл бұрын
Dave smith 2024
@IIIUMlNATI
@IIIUMlNATI 3 жыл бұрын
Larry Elder for California Governor! Spread the word everywhere, especially cali residents! be an advocate, get the word out! theres not much time... the election is in less than 2 months, sept 14th! This election is all about turnout and might be the only serious shot we get to turn the state red! For freedom. Lets gooo!!!! "You can lose a fight, but you can't win a surrender." - Andrew Klavan
@klarion
@klarion 3 жыл бұрын
Ron Paul woke me up when I was watching C-span in the early aughts ...
@gregg6992
@gregg6992 3 жыл бұрын
Dave for President! Great communicator!
@n.c.9618
@n.c.9618 3 жыл бұрын
Nick is the only editor at Reason I like (other than Brian Doherty). I agree waaaaaaaay more with Dave Smith on pretty much everything but I respect Nick and enjoy his interviews.
@jeffgreene5956
@jeffgreene5956 3 жыл бұрын
It defies logic to demand that kids must be vaccinated to go to school since the children that have been vaccinated are not at risk. The only children at risk would be the unvaccinated child. So there is no justification for keeping an unvaccinated child out. None of my children, who are all grown now was ever vaccinated. The few years they went to public schools some parent would inevitably find out our kids were unvaxxed and would voice concern. We would point out my above comment and it was like a light bulb going on, they would realize that it wasn't actually a problem. People are so conditioned that they just stop thinking. It's pitiful really.
@michaeldoran4367
@michaeldoran4367 3 жыл бұрын
100% I will vote for Dave Smith
@JS-zd3vi
@JS-zd3vi 3 жыл бұрын
Great talk. Next needs to be Malice. I think I agree more with Nick and being a minarchist, just bc I think itd be more practical such as we need a unified front to deal with other super powers. thoughts?
@grantpickens2704
@grantpickens2704 3 жыл бұрын
Dave is the best thing for the Libertarian party since Ron Paul
@Bhiles92
@Bhiles92 3 жыл бұрын
Dave is great. Would love to see Tom Woods or Michael Malice on Reason again soon
@AltKuyperian
@AltKuyperian 3 жыл бұрын
Smart people need to run for President even if they don’t want the job to help weed out those who don’t know what they’re talking about. If a single intelligent person had been on the Democrat debate stage, they all would’ve been decimated and we’d not be living through this BS
@danielluke6763
@danielluke6763 3 жыл бұрын
There was one and they tried to evicerate her. #tulsi2024
@AltKuyperian
@AltKuyperian 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielluke6763 Oh yeah, and took her Google pay account and shadow banned her on KZbin. Tulsi would be infinitely better than Biden
@hattorihanzo2275
@hattorihanzo2275 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielluke6763 You mean Tulsi the Russian Asset? I was told by Hillary, CNN, MSNBC and a meme that she loves Putin so it must be true.
@techguy651
@techguy651 2 жыл бұрын
@@AltKuyperian Tulsi might have been better, but now she’s a shill for secret military action around the world. Maybe she’s being told what to say by the deep state or maybe she was lying about her ideology.
@AltKuyperian
@AltKuyperian 2 жыл бұрын
@@techguy651 How so? Haven't heard of this. Perhaps she's now under the influence, but at the time it was clear they were targeting her and making room for Biden.
@nzajflynn
@nzajflynn 3 жыл бұрын
God dam dave was on fire! That was tremendous.
@silasashe4158
@silasashe4158 3 жыл бұрын
“unworkable, theatrical, suggestions that are guaranteed to lose” should be the RNC tag line
@LarsAndersenFrihed
@LarsAndersenFrihed 3 жыл бұрын
Great interview. Good job.
@whitwt
@whitwt 3 жыл бұрын
Great interview Nick. You pushed back when you needed to but you were super fair and the conversation had great flow.
@tophan5146
@tophan5146 3 жыл бұрын
LOL are you kidding. Rather than pushing back, Nick was constantly cutting Dave off when he was making a great point.
@darbyohara
@darbyohara 3 жыл бұрын
This is how media is supposed to work and MUST work for us to have a country. Show airs, mischaracterizes someone, that someone challenges that, show invited that someone on to set the record straight.
@meezus2963
@meezus2963 2 жыл бұрын
Dave Smith on Rogan changed my life. I cannot wait for him to run in 2024, let’s change the world.
@TheCapstah
@TheCapstah 3 жыл бұрын
Very wise and very big of Nick to take the high road and get the record strait with Dave. Well done gentlemen. Keep it up.
@StrikeTheRoot
@StrikeTheRoot 3 жыл бұрын
Dave Smith is definitely the future of the LP. but unfortunately that's like being the quarterback in the XFL. It ain't worth much.
@ytdave354
@ytdave354 3 жыл бұрын
The cheerleaders are better
@tophan5146
@tophan5146 3 жыл бұрын
It ain’t worth much now but it’s gaining traction, especially thanks to lockdown madness. It has better chance of accelerating long-term success than ever before. 2024 is mostly about introducing new people to the idea.
@The_Original_Default_Username
@The_Original_Default_Username 3 жыл бұрын
That question Nick put forward about whether Dave's parents "should be" vaccinated was outrageously loaded. You can't directly answer the question without presupposing any one person can declare what another "should" do.
@abbott5580
@abbott5580 2 жыл бұрын
I think he recognized that to be fair. He framed his follow up as more of an open ended ask for clarification on whether Dave's stance on the efficacy of the vaccine in general across age ranges.
@bulldogvillan
@bulldogvillan 3 жыл бұрын
What Dave said about there being pockets of places in this country that look/are 3rd world, it's so true. I grew up in Stockton, CA and there are areas that are just...you wouldn't believe it if you weren't seeing it with your own eyes.
@hattorihanzo2275
@hattorihanzo2275 3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever been to Detroit?
@bricecate
@bricecate 2 жыл бұрын
I gave this video a like only for Dave smith. Not for reason. Reason not been reasonable for years.
@thackcargill8353
@thackcargill8353 Жыл бұрын
Reason- advocating for a smaller totalitarian government.
@Selenium555
@Selenium555 3 жыл бұрын
Dave Smith for President!
@jaimeweezer6260
@jaimeweezer6260 10 ай бұрын
I’d vote for him . Been listening to him for years and now that he has a family , you can tell his ideas have molded and matured . Dude is really On point with a lot
@ripcityraider9469
@ripcityraider9469 3 жыл бұрын
Dave Smith is the best!
@jonathanrichter4256
@jonathanrichter4256 3 жыл бұрын
The Endgame is to keep the public in fear. To keep them thinking "if it weren't for the government, I'd be dead, or living in poverty."
@jensgronning4436
@jensgronning4436 3 жыл бұрын
The war on drugs is prohibition writ large. An absolute tragedy of epic proportions. I was once a proponent of hard drug prohibition in my 20s when I identified as a conservative. I now consider myself a libertarian leaning conservative. The main reason is my absolute disgust at the damage of the WOD.
@jamespriest7328
@jamespriest7328 3 жыл бұрын
I would without hesitation vote for dave in 2024.
@zerocool5395
@zerocool5395 3 жыл бұрын
Dave "Libertarian 2Pac" Smith.
@spinningbacksidekick
@spinningbacksidekick 3 жыл бұрын
Reason Magazine. The safe space home for blue-pilled libertarians, neoliberals, and authoritarians for decades. See also: Cato
@AnnaMishel
@AnnaMishel 3 жыл бұрын
I would vote for Dave Smith in a heartbeat!
@datdat5901
@datdat5901 3 жыл бұрын
We can only hope for Dave's success getting his foot into the current political swamp.
@tophan5146
@tophan5146 3 жыл бұрын
It’s more about his success of getting his ideas into mainstream.
@waynespringer501
@waynespringer501 3 жыл бұрын
Ron Paul wasn't the Republican nominee in 2008 and 2012 Nick......Now do the Gary Johnson results of 2012......
@330wiz7
@330wiz7 3 жыл бұрын
Dave Smith 2024 Seriously ppl we need Dave. What you gonna vote for kamala? Or Trump? Come on
@55crusherman55
@55crusherman55 3 жыл бұрын
Heard about this on Rogan and I’m so down for it! This man has great ideas
@mikefuss9080
@mikefuss9080 3 жыл бұрын
You can get Covid after being vaccinated. I been vaccinated. Got Bell’s palsy as a possible side affect. And now as of this video I have Covid. Very mild.
@christiansgrignoli3351
@christiansgrignoli3351 5 ай бұрын
Dave smith is my hero. Hes a superstar. Hes funny. Go into trumps cabinet as treasury secretary
@cn240studios5
@cn240studios5 2 жыл бұрын
Hope Dave Smith gets to run for president, please God.
@joshuamills3917
@joshuamills3917 3 жыл бұрын
Terrific interview
@danieldoyle7839
@danieldoyle7839 3 жыл бұрын
Smith/Bear 2024.
@furyofbongos
@furyofbongos 3 жыл бұрын
If someone says something ambiguous, you don't get to decide what he meant.
@stevenw5013
@stevenw5013 3 жыл бұрын
This was a great discussion.
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