I think that Dragon Gate's Open The Brave Gate Championship should definitely be considered, they have some of the best juniors
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Not the worst idea.. surprisingly, 8 belts is not enough as I wanted to cram even more into this
@zakrowe13014 жыл бұрын
8 peices to that belt aswell lol
@CRob1724 жыл бұрын
Aka outside of the IWGP Heavyweight title imho the most sexy looking title belt rn
@CRob1724 жыл бұрын
Ope meant the dream gate title lol
@supersasukemaniac3 жыл бұрын
I love how CMLL's title is called the NWA Historic Welterweight Championship but has the CMLL logo emblazoned in the middle and has Consjo Mundial de Lucha Libre word mark on it.
@DaveKnowsWrestling3 жыл бұрын
Yeah pretty weird isn't it
@MrQdiddy854 жыл бұрын
Watching any of Dave’s videos is the closest thing to wrestling school and I love it
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
I am so glad to hear that, always good to know that ppl are getting something out of it
@tendresseak274 жыл бұрын
You should make a video on dormant championships. I was browsing a wikipedia page on CMLL championships and they have so many active belts that haven't been defended in years. I find this fascinating.
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion and yes they totally do... I wouldn't even know where to begin. The only problem though is Wikipedia isn't always the most reliable for this kinda stuff, sometimes they don't always keep up to date
@tendresseak274 жыл бұрын
@@DaveKnowsWrestling yeah I'm sure you're right. It's just I hear you talking about some of these titles in your 2 J-Crown videos, and it's weird that some of these have not been defended in forever, yet others still do even without their existing companies. Just a thought. I love videos in general talking about championships. Good stuff btw, been digging through your past videos lately and it's a lot of fun.
@stsolomon6184 жыл бұрын
There was a time when the cruiserweight/light heavyweight division was a big deal. I miss those days.
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
You and I both. I had high hopes during the Cruiserweight classic... and we know how that went
@punkhippe4 жыл бұрын
In njpw I dont think its exaggeration to say the junior title is one of the most fun titles in pro wrestling today period. It has great tournaments, great matches, a ton of talent can win it, and its protected enough that it is prestigious but not so prestigious a lot of title matches dont matter because the challanger cant really win it.
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
@Punkhippe, I don't think it's an exaggeration either to say that the Jr HW Division in NJPW is one of the most fun divisions either
@supersasukemaniac3 жыл бұрын
oh god, imagine an Ultimate X Match for the J-Crown. It would be insane.
@DaveKnowsWrestling3 жыл бұрын
That would be so awesome
@superermac554 жыл бұрын
God i love these kinda videos. Always love learning about different titles.
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
It can be a lot of fun. Some belts have really weird history that's just fascinating to a wrestling fan
@superermac554 жыл бұрын
@@DaveKnowsWrestling plus as a mexican, it gives me a bit of pride and joy to learn of titles from my nation. Even obscure titles
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
It's like this video is especially just a Mexican Welterweight video. I just found it so interesting how many Welterweight titles were used in the CMLL. And there are even more Mexican Welterweight titles to talk about. The history was so appealing to me I couldn't resist. Truth be told I didn't even have to mention as much as I did about them, but I thought it was fascinating.
@DequanClarke4 жыл бұрын
Would love a video of you choosing some of the best cruiserweights for a future Cruiserweight Classic tournament. Great and informative video man
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much.. and in terms of best cruiserweights out there... interesting
@iamtriston6664 жыл бұрын
Ok this is what I wonder all the time. I was hoping you would do a video about this topic.
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Well I hope you enjoy it
@iamtriston6664 жыл бұрын
@@DaveKnowsWrestling I did.
@obitavora74782 жыл бұрын
NWA have now brought back the junior heavyweight title. so i guess that would go in now. it would be amazing.
@TheGood8884 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, and I remember requesting it back in one of your livestreams, so thanks for making it! As we all know, AEW does not yet have a title that is eligible for the J-Crown just yet. If AEW did create a Welterweight, Junior Heavyweight, Lightheavyweight, Cruiserweight or something similar, would you include it as one of your picks? If so, which of the eight belts selected would it replace?
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
I would def consider it. I would probably remove El Bandito's title from since it is the one that seems to be less available. Thanks again for the suggestion
@johnstahlman9767 Жыл бұрын
Dude imagine how soar Ultimo Dragons arms were after carrying all those belts
@ZOOTSUITBEATNICK14 жыл бұрын
imo Great vid on a cool subject! Personally, I'd like to see more specific weight divisions in wrestling...all with titles...I mean, Darby Allen vs. Jake Hagar-for example-doesn't make a ton of sense. imo
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, some match up just don't work visually
@ericgoldberg83582 жыл бұрын
I know this video is a year old but the NWA now has a NWA World Junior Heavyweight Championship
@HammertonWay4 жыл бұрын
Considering Último Dragón's legacy with the J-Crown, the Open The Brave Gate championship should replace ZERO1 or WWA.
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Hey that's not a bad plan either
@DefLeppardVanHalen4 жыл бұрын
Here's my picks for the new generation J-Crown, but I'm going to double the brackets from 8 to 16 championships... 1. IWGP Junior Heavyweight Championship (New Japan Pro Wrestling) 2. CMLL World Light Heavyweight Championship (Consejo Mundial de Lucha Libre) 3. RevPro British Cruiserweight Championship (Revolution Pro Wrestling) 4. AJPW World Junior Heaavyweight Championship (All Japan Pro Wrestling) 5. GHC Junior Heavyweight Championship (Pro Wrestling NOAH) 6. BJW Junior Heavyweight Championship (Big Japan Pro Wrestling) 7. Tohoku Junior Heavyweight Championship (Michinoku Pro Wrestling) 8. Open The Brave Gate Championship (Dragon Gate) 9. ZERO1 World Junior Heavyweight Championship (Pro Wrestling ZERO1)* 10. ZERO1 International Junior Heavyweight Championship (Pro Wrestling ZERO1)* 11. Independent World Junior Heavyweight Championship (Japanese independents) 12. AAA World Cruiserweight Championship (Asistencia Asesoría y Administración) 13. MLW World Middleweight Championship (Major League Wrestling) 14. NXT Cruiserweight Championship (World Wrestling Entertainment) 15. IMPACT X-Division Championship (IMPACT Wrestling) 16. EWA World Middleweight Championship (European Wrestling Association) * - The championships are already unified.
@Sketchfan4 жыл бұрын
my personal draft,I would agree on the rev pro and nxt cruiserweight belts,and the impact x division title and iwgp jr heavyweight championship and triple a jr heavyweight title,agree with hc7 on the open the brave gate title. my remaining choice would have to be the mlw middleweight championship which like the wwe/nxt cruiserweight title has a 205 pound weight limit and mybe yeah second on cmll's belt
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
I do like MLW getting in there
@Sketchfan4 жыл бұрын
Dave Knows Wrestling I felt they deserved a shoutout
@crossin87723 жыл бұрын
Something about the j crown I always struggled with is should the j crown champion be counted as a singular champion or as an octuple champion as. Considering it was presented and defended as a singular championship. However the titles continued their lineages according to most of the companies involved.
@DaveKnowsWrestling3 жыл бұрын
It's an octuple title. They remained separate and were able to be defended individually
@crossin87723 жыл бұрын
@@DaveKnowsWrestling ok that clears it up I knew that was the case with the war title part of the j crown but when I had learned of that I had thought it was an exception.
@AdamGalloper4 жыл бұрын
Lol, whoa! What's with the Alex Koslov hate? Did I miss something?
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Oh is he considered good?
@AdamGalloper4 жыл бұрын
@@DaveKnowsWrestlingHe was good in New Japan, granted he might have been better in a tag team than single, but not enough to devalue the AAA Crucero title
@micahjohnsonboxing64094 жыл бұрын
@@DaveKnowsWrestling I thought he was great in AAA
@aztecwrrior19972 жыл бұрын
10:05 but but the X-Division Championship is a no weight limit title what?
@Dan_WATP4 жыл бұрын
I'd swap out the X Division or NXT cruiserweight belts with the AJPW world Jr and the GHC Jr
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Understandable swaps. I originally had the AJPW Jr belt in
@Bsfnelz204 жыл бұрын
@@DaveKnowsWrestling can u explain what is the x division title to me i thought it was their version of the cruiserweight title but i was told its a no weight limit title so which is it
@micahjohnsonboxing64094 жыл бұрын
@@Bsfnelz20 There's no weight limit Willie Mack just had it this year, he's 280. Angle also held it.
@Lastrit_JME4 жыл бұрын
@@micahjohnsonboxing6409 Bobby Lashley too
@megaplanetawsome79864 жыл бұрын
@@Bsfnelz20 it's a high flyer belt no weight limit
@aztecwrrior19972 жыл бұрын
6:53 ok one problem with using AAA here CMLL will not for any reason work with them regardless if it's to have a unified championship due to the defection of Antonio Peña in 1992 since then AAA and CMLL cannot work with each other
@jasmith264 жыл бұрын
I loved the J-Crown as well. I was sad to see it go.
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, hopefully it can come back
@luisv18734 жыл бұрын
Just for the hell of it, if this was to happen, they should have Último dragón be the inaugural champion, since he held like 9 titles at once.
@Vamparicsaiyan3 жыл бұрын
@Luis V: he had 10 titles, the 8 J-Crown titles, WCW Cruiserweight, and NWA World Middleweight.
@vornsovannara8574 жыл бұрын
Dave, If you could have a J-Crown Mid-card Championships what would they be? but most importantly what name would you call the Championship?
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
That's a very loaded question
@aztecwrrior19972 жыл бұрын
If only it was still active I'd add in the 2016 WWE Cruiserweight Championship(i probably shoulda waited to see this on the list)
@katiemartin6774 жыл бұрын
YES NEW VIDEO
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Very glad that you are excited
@carlosmontesinos15444 жыл бұрын
So, the tournament would be, as of july 23: Hiromu Takahashi Volador jr Michael Oku Laredo Kid Bandido HUB Hijo del Fantasma Chris Bey Looks nice
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
You put it that way and yes the tourney looks sick
@kidcanada444 жыл бұрын
You should do another kayfabe science
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Harder to do without a studio
@KozyKool22874 жыл бұрын
Scratch the X-Division belt and add MLW's Middleweight Championship, then the list would be perfect.
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Well I do like MLW
@alexisdelarosa53964 жыл бұрын
Would be a estelar tourment!!!
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
That would be a really great tournament to watch
@geoffchurchill54924 жыл бұрын
the nxt cruiserweight title?
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
What about it
@karimrodriguez36983 жыл бұрын
MLW World Middleweight Championship
@DaveKnowsWrestling3 жыл бұрын
That is a good championship for sure
@kingcoheed12084 жыл бұрын
International Wrestling Cartel's High Speed Title as they won't miss it as much as CMLL would their Welterweight title
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
You do raise a valid point there
@fuckthepolice.94104 жыл бұрын
Hey Dave I like watching your videos but I don't watch raw or smackdown streams ... everything else I check out you should do more lives instead of just streams
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the suggestions
@New-York-Guy-90.4 жыл бұрын
All the old titles should be brought back....not been retired in the first place....Rey Mysterio should have held the J-Crown Championship And been the one none Japanese Wrestler to hold it
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Mysterio wouldn't have been a bad choice
@CujoKelly4 жыл бұрын
So if someone carried this title now, wouldn’t they have to be able to wrestle for basically every big promotion?
@joshhale93554 жыл бұрын
While the NXT CW title would be cool, that wouldn’t happen, so I’d use Dragon Gate’s Open the Brave Gate Championship. Now as for who should hold all of these; I’m thinking this is perfect for a real asshole of a character so I’m thinking Ace Austin. It’d be a great way for Impact to start really working with other companies again and it’d give Austin something huge before they put the top belt on him, plus I kinda just want to see Ace Austin wrestle everyone right now.
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
I didn't really think of who would win this New J-Crown until you mentioned it. If I had to pick, I am remembering that it should be a current title holder winning in a tournament. So Takahashi it is for me
@The_Maverickstudios4 жыл бұрын
Actually I believe the x division championship in the beginning had no weight limit That wasn't established until Eric bishoff and hogan came in in 2010
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
I see your point there
@The_Maverickstudios4 жыл бұрын
@@DaveKnowsWrestling I also do a wrestling podcast Two guys and wrestling podcast
@micahjohnsonboxing64094 жыл бұрын
Even this year Willie Mack won it and he's 280 pounds
@cdprice4 жыл бұрын
How about OVW Rush Championship Gotta show some love to OVW
@zakrowe13014 жыл бұрын
Rush championship? Is that new?
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
I was trying to stick as much as possible to belts that had a connection to the original counterparts
@messymop97724 жыл бұрын
I think Enzo never gave back his cruiserweight championship so I wouldn’t be surprised if that starts floating around if he decides to defend it
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't surprise me
@Staceyatkinson44963 жыл бұрын
How bout the wwf European title
@DaveKnowsWrestling3 жыл бұрын
It hasn't been active in decades and it isn't a lighter weight class
@debajitbhaumik38414 жыл бұрын
Actually in its prime x division was about no limits.so Samoa Joe was champion.so I think its not eligible.
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
To each their own I guess
@micahjohnsonboxing64094 жыл бұрын
Willie Mack had the X division championship recently and he's billed as 280 and looks it, Angle also held it, definitely not eligible.
@MrQdiddy853 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the successful Spanish pronunciations
@DaveKnowsWrestling3 жыл бұрын
Thank you... I guess I just got lucky
@daltonriser11254 жыл бұрын
I knew the x division had to be in there
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Good intuition
@thegunslinger88064 жыл бұрын
Let me tell you why having two competing mexican companies is a bad idea, for one Triple AAA and CMLL are vastly different styles and two if they have to do a tournament to compete in another country odds are neither company will not like the idea of there guy loosing against the other guy so you would have to eliminate them from the equation early on meaning any prospects of doing a money match with them is POOOF gonzo. So for now just leave only one Mexican company in the J crown because otherwise it's gonna complicate issues, another factor to take in mind is the X Division was never about limits, it acted more like a device to have smaller guys meet bigger guys for a belt that served has there intercontinental tittle, a better option would be say an MLW middleweight tittle or some other American company tittle, you can also consider down here in Puerto Rico the WWL Super Cruiserweight tittle or try your luck with NWA again and see if they want to revive there junior heavyweight strap. Another problem is Vince McMahon will never work let alone lend a wrestler to another promotion like the old days when wrestlers worked for themselves instead of the promotion, it's better to not add WWE and just leave a company like that off of it. An acceptable replacement for the Zero1 and WWA tittles would be the FMW independent Junior Heavyweight tittle which...has seen better days from the look of it and the other would be Noah and All Japan's respective junior heavyweight tittles which Noah's division is alright but all Japan's division has seen better days since it's hey day in the 80's when they were payed better attention and the fact the heavyweights wrestled better than the juniors in the 90's didn't help (although that's not fair to kikuchi he carried that division on his back). Finally id like to end it with the most obvious of all things, New Japan really doesn't seem to care at the moment about the juniors, why have a junior division when so many people already wrestle like them? Sure they don't do shooting star presses but I'm really not impressed by them and when I do see them it's ridiculous sequences that don't make any sense or tell a story or look captivating, there's no slow down of it anymore it's all athleticism, so if everyone's wrestling like a junior then who the fuck is? And why bother when by the time they step in the heavyweights and tag teams have already shown everyone everything and now these guys in the middle of the card are gonna show us more of the same? Fuck that. Either tell the heavyweights to slow down or don't have it at all.
@pushon102 жыл бұрын
When non-Japanese wrestlers wrestle in Japan...do they have to speak Japanese?
@DirtiestSoul4 жыл бұрын
mexico´s championships doesnt have prestige bro
@DaveKnowsWrestling4 жыл бұрын
Ouch and that seems a bit harsh
@DirtiestSoul4 жыл бұрын
@@DaveKnowsWrestling yeah, reigns always ends in vacancies or after 2 years with like 2 defenses
@rajon51464 жыл бұрын
You should make a video on how the wwe has declined in terms of viewership and product quality.