David Bowie & Trent Reznor 1995 Interview with Kurt Loder | MTV News

Kurt Loder goes in-depth with David Bowie and Trent Reznor in this vintage interview with MTV.
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[@richardbuchli2567]

As a huge NIN fan, I've seen a million interviews with Trent. This is the happiest interview I've ever seen with him... I can only think that it was Bowie's fault. RIP

[@lasrealistas2185]

+Richard Buchli me too :( , oh bowie, Trent took more than a week to speak about Bowie s death, cant imagine how sad he is

[@jayquanvo5134]

You are so right! You rarely see Trent smile in interviews. He's always so conservative & serious. Shy & unassuming as David describes, but he's quite light hearted here. You can really see that David was someone Trent trusted, respected & admired greatly.

[@deckofcards87]

Richard Buchli Bowie helped pull quite a few artists out of low periods. Iggy Pop was the first which I'm forever thankful for.

[@lisazoria2709]

Richard Buchli True, I was thinking the same! It's so nice to see him smile for once!

[@timcox7169]

Pretty sure they’re both on coke.

[@Lotisaims]

has anyone noticed bowies brilliant joke that he just threw away instantly... "ill be brutally Frank.... you be Earnest and ill be Frank"

[@rancidtown]

They used that in the lemony snicket books in I think it was penultimate peril

[@deabjork9012]

He had a sharp wit. Sometimes I think ppl figured out later that it was a zinger. He learned from Lennon on that.❤

[@deabjork9012]

He was a smart boy! Miss his kinda humor. A little nudge,nudge,wink wink...say no more. (I really wanna say somthing nasty, y'know).

[@pbplauralfilms]

#dadjokes Bowie is a beautiful loss

[@hh582]

I don’t get it.... Is it a JoJo reference?

[@SatieSatie]

David had aged incredibly well, and Trent, now in his 50's, has aged well, too. What a beautiful collaboration it was. RIP David, one of the few true legends.

[@Stick3x]

You will too if your wife is as beautiful as theirs😂.

[@underwriter100]

Hair pieces help too. David used them as most people in show business do. David’s were pretty real looking which is why many people think it was his real hair

[@Smoove_J]

Coke must interfere with the aging process somehow.

[@SatieSatie]

@@Smoove_J No, cocaine accelerates the aging process.

[@morganreigns1984]

@@Smoove_J no your thinking of H (eroin)

[@AvianSavara]

For once Bowie doesn't seem like he's afraid of Americans and Reznor doesn't seem like he's one badly-worded question from assaulting the interviewer.

[@chinchirap2]

Why is this comment so good

[@marcinb4647]

It's not good it's lazy and cringy AF@@chinchirap2

[@sheenafrancis7560]

Hilarious!

[@MortonGoldthwait]

Bowie's vinyl jacket is louder than the Swans album Cop.

[@Flugmorph]

lol music elitist joke

[@Psypomp]

MortonGoldthwait STOP

[@palbo4]

Heyy cool username. I love NIN, I love Swans and I love FoxTrot so I like you

[@Romalvx]

SpoonyLionheart unbelievable that he didn't sweat in it. A jacket like that, zipped on any other human, would make him steam.

[@johnnydrama8709]

Louder. Lolll ?

[@katevielle4263]

Trent always looked so happy with Bowie ❤

[@susannaharnhart4910]

Kate Vielle he’s so cute and joyful!

[@spiritualcramp8000]

when you get on stage with your teenage idol... you are on top of the world

[@thevoid99]

i bet trent was fangirling throughout the entire interview as he realized "omg, i'm sitting next to david bowie... *screams*"

[@adamblister6005]

+thevoid99 david bowie was doing more fangirling here.

[@cactaceous]

+thevoid99 Bowie needed Reznor much more. I was 16 when this happened and a huge NIN fan. I learned of Bowie through NIN and this collaboration. Became huge fan and understood how big of a fan and inspiration David was in Trent's life.

[@utube9000]

+Pete Agassi Ummm, I don't think so. Bowie's always worked with the best of the best and was not intimidated by anyone. Respect for Trent yes, fangirling absolutely not.

[@Ironjack53]

+cactaceous Hahahah Cact sorry your offbase on that comment

[@cactaceous]

+Ironjack53 How am I off base? I love Bowie more than I love NIN but lets have the facts right. This interview is from 1995. The Downward Spiral had come out the previous year and had been an amazing critical and commercial success. Their Woodstock 94 performance was mythologized. Bowie on the other hand was coming off the lucrative but completely panned Never Let Me Down album and the Glass Spider tour, the lackluster reception to both Tin Machine albums and the utter indifference, both commercial and critically to Black Tie White Noise and the ignored Buddha of Suburbia. That's why he went back to Eno on Outside and recruited Trent and NIN for the tour. He needed a spark. He needed a resurgence. He needed inspiration. He needed Eno and Trent to get him back on track. He got it. Outside is his best album since Scary Monsters and the tour was well received and got him back on MTV on high rotation when they both made the I'm Afraid of Americans video from Earthling. I was 16 when all of this was happening and though NIN he got exposure to a much younger demographic. I knew of Bowie but didn't feel compelled to explore until his association w NIN. So, I'm not off base.

[@paulytamale]

I think David Bowie wanted to collaborate with Trent Reznor because he wanted to be "the tan one" for once.

[@abigailsockeye1586]

the thin tan duke

[@cellblocknine5385]

paulytamale Racist bitch.

[@rainman8534]

Mister Justice Bassist Rich?

[@explode1270]

Mister Justice How is that even remotely racist?

[@cellblocknine5385]

EXPLODE If you’re that dense that you can’t tell, I’m not going to explain the obvious.

[@deckofcards87]

David loved " The Downward Spiral" and I don't blame him. Trent wrote and structured the album around David's album "Low" as he's was a huge fan...can't blame him for that either.

[@KevinCease]

Theta I never heard that, I heard downward spiral was a complete experiment with no real idea of what was gonna happen

[@zogmorp]

@@KevinCease Basically, Trent listened to "Low" a lot while he was working on TDS. The track "a warm place" is inspired by a couple of the atmospheric instrumental synth tracks that are at the end of the "Low" album. The whole of TDS isn't inspired by the Bowie album.

[@amybynight]

I love it when I find out that Bowie and I were enjoying the same music at the same time

[@thiggs93]

The Wall was a major influence on Tds

[@thebiggusdonnus8453]

Gotta say, meeting one of your influences and having them admire your work has got to be the best feeling in the world.

[@phantasagore6012]

Trent is so young here. It's amazing to see how well he's developed as an artist and gained his confidence. David has always had an amazing eye for real talent and hard work. He scoped Trent knowing how very promising he was. Funny to have such a deep love for both these two individual's art over my lifetime (as a now 30 something year old guy) and come back to find this interview I'd over looked. I knew of their tour together but never watched this. It put a smile to my face to see Trent all uncomfortable. David nonchalant but knowing Trent was to become greater with time. He was right. Trent's been playing in the background with movie soundtracks lately, but doing such increasingly incredible things. Looking forward to Trent's creations knowing David left him with some of his Legacy. I see bits and pieces of David in Trent's works these days, I'm glad and I think Trent gets it what he was given. A handing off of the torch.

[@6.21.3.1-m]

Vox Animus wow, I feel this as well and couldn't have said it better man!

[@travisjohnson622]

Everyone gushing over Bowie and Reznor. That parts a given. But lets not forget the third talent in the room: Kurt Loder. I grew up watching the man and his tasteful ways of delivering not only news but memorable interviews such as this. Not sure what hes doing these days, but he was practically the face and voice of MTV throughout the 90s. Seemed like a professional and artists seemed to have a great respect for him.

[@EMdemo]

Hell yeah. He's definitely one of my favorites. His voice and delivery always struck

[@lickidesplit123]

That was a great collaboration. I loved their music together. "I'm afraid of Americans" was my favorite song.

[@ShadyPinesMa79]

Same here, one of my favorite Bowie songs

[@JamesBond-dn5nd]

Those were the days when MTV was actually music television. The channel should now be called reality tv (RTV).

[@irlnd32]

+Powernetwork he wasn't that afraid as he lived in NY

[@dexterdog717]

+Powernetwork Why are you "Afraid of Americans" ? Why would Bowie be "afraid of Americans?

[@irlnd32]

+Powernetwork it's a song . It wasn't his life; he lived it HERE; called himself a NY'er

[@InstallaFriend]

Lmao his vinyl jacket crinkles like a vinyl record

[@jonathangillis4926]

Install a Friend ayy nice puns

[@abxv_]

He was a walking work of art

[@melancholy-6352]

Oh god I can't stop hearing every little crackling noise now

[@shortyrok211]

he wasnt kidding. To this day it is still the best concert I have been to. I ve been to hundreds of shows

[@shortyrok211]

+richard mattson was the best visual effects ive seen at a show. nin part was crazy they played a few songs together. bowie of course had tye best sound. every note was perfect. I was only 15 at the time but 35now. No one has came close to being a better show. ive never seen pink Floyd though. nin has since changed their stage production though and from the looks of it, its a big step up. would have been sweet if they could have done another tour.

[@TerroistPanda]

I saw NIN in 2014 and can tell you that it is the best concert I've ever been to, performance and visual effects. I was more hyped to see Soundgarden but when I left I was completely amazed

[@cuddlesdotgif8395]

Being only 4 years old at the time, I am so jealous of that experience. There will never be another David.

[@luchboxer]

Every once in a while I come back to this video to remind myself that humanity is capable of great things. Just look at these two geniuses. Look at how relaxed they are, like if they were just two random guys having a chat and not two of the most important artsits of our time. The fact that we had these two in music, is enough for you to feel proud of humanity and all the great things we are capable to do. RIP Starman for your incalculable influence on arts. And thank you for giving Trent a light of hope in all that darkness he was going thru in that time. How I wish both of them could have one more musical moment together before the end.

[@JonMatt62]

Bowies "hurt" with NIN was just magic.

[@Crystal-xm6zu]

Kurt Loder was my favorite interviewer on Mtv. Calm, soft spoken, not corny and no interrupting...good questions. When David Bowie spoke, I wanted to hear every word.

[@MechaJoezilla]

Kurt was great about that.

[@marionfarrell1716]

I wish this was a current story and all was well with the world.

[@April_flowers483]

Marion Farrell I understand this

[@nekozombie]

pop culture sucks now, thanks to our overlords

[@dagsouleyedblue407]

3 years from your comment on this rings more poignant than ever, hope yer doing ok

[@emmaphilo4049]

I agree :/

[@robertstitches9517]

Yeah.....about that.... see it gets much worse in the future!

[@keithhutchins8803]

Seeing nothing but positive comments about these two amazing men warms my heart.

[@leegsy]

Bowie was in his late 40s here I think. He sure looks good considering all the things he used to indulge in.

[@etanaedelman9011]

You could probably say the same thing about Trent these days.

[@leegsy]

Absolutely. Trent looks very healthy and youthful for a man who used to punish himself with endless touring and lots of chemicals and everything in between. He also looks pretty content in his own skin these days. I'm glad he finally found some peace in himself. Being young and full of rage can produce some very creative stuff but it can also drag you down and it gets tiresome after a while.

[@adamw116]

He was such a soft spoken, good natured brilliant man! I can't believe Bowie is gone!

[@isabellasinclair8215]

I've never wanted to be a couch more in my life

[@isabellaswan2526]

I love seeing Trent so happy working with David! Trent smiles and laughs more in this interview, than any other one I've watched. :D

[@vladaimpaler]

I adore Trent and I miss Bowie so much. They are two musical geniuses and it makes me happy they were friends.

[@backgroundlake2146]

'He's got a Bowie on his back.'

[@memelordmmd]

Trent just got inducted into the hall of fame Wish bowie was alive to finally see this moment

[@joenicholls461]

David’s so fucking cool

[@thirstfast1025]

Reznor being a fanboi, Bowie bein a boss. Legendary interview.

[@hauntedhose]

I met Bowie while working at Clinton Studios (2001)....super polite natural guy with incredible grace. 🤘🔥

[@raulduke6394]

They seem like two best friends in middle school. What a once in a lifetime pair of men.

[@cremetangerine82]

My first concert was the Halloween show (1995) at the Nissan Pavilion with Nine Inch Nails opening for David Bowie. It was so great, it was mind-blowing. R.I.P. David Bowie.

[@ghastlycrumb_tiny]

My first concert w/out family supervision was at Hershey stadium on the same tour!

[@krillton]

Is this before he killed Dumbledore, or after?

[@alunepps4272]

Got it now. Its TR that looks Snape. I was wondering how Bowie was in HP.

[@ipercalisse579]

Lol. I was expecting this comment

[@erikakathleen509]

Snape looks like Trent dear.

[@Synathidy]

Now it makes sense why there was a song called "Reptile." You know... there were those those slithery snakey wizards in those books.

[@sharedmemories3729]

I thought he was adam driver for a second when I saw the thumbnail

[@richardeasther2569]

Hard not to like seeing these two together-music is the language that they share and respect each other for what they can give to one another-age matters not

[@Qwalsius]

man I miss Bowie and that tour was fucking amazing

[@williamstone6818]

What a great tour! NIN played their show their way. The last song Trent sang was Scary Monsters then Bowie came out to sing Reptile with NIN. After the song ended, seamlessly the stage turned to pastels and Bowie began his set his way. It was one of the best live performances I've ever seen.

[@Browngurlgrunge_numetal]

I miss his music. When this collab came out I was having my first child and didn’t get a chance to really appreciate this. Lately I have been revisiting Bowie and have become a Nine Inch Nails Fan!!! What took me soooo long.

[@Elephantnegotiationsociety]

Lol David Bowie always had a way of landing right in the middle of the most creative current musical zeitgeist

[@lafeeshmeister]

5:56 "That was an edit point" - the AMAZING part is that just by noticing and pointing it out, Bowie ensures (perhaps with intent) it will not be cut! THIS IS EXACTLY LIKE THE HEISENBERG UNCERTAINTY PRINCIPLE, where as soon as you look at something with a photon you can no longer be sure of its location because the photon moved it!

[@78deathface]

Nice backwards chair vibe, Kurt.

[@modernlover0rosalyn]

That's funny!

[@jordan1546]

9:20 is beyond adorable T__T

[@thevillainwasright2601]

is trent a vampire

[@anyssaferreira7250]

Zachary Tyler you have to say OK GOOGLE first

[@melancholy-6352]

Quite possibly. (This is the question that keeps me awake at night.)

[@jhonnycagexrage7458]

Probably

[@WarriorOfHeaven]

Yes

[@norahherbie8537]

Trent and David made a wonderful sound that endures today.. music i turn to to keep me going ..rest in peace David Jones.

[@MrSfxer]

Kurt Loder, man. Flashback from the past. He was MTV and made those years so memorable.

[@RobNickel001]

I'm so grateful that I got to see that tour. It was my introduction to NIN - they blew my mind, then when they were on stage together with Bowie, it was completely next level, and Bowie's set was phenomenal. One of the best shows I've ever seen.

[@1AGRIPPINAONE]

I must say I am a huge fan of both but I am happy they both developed their own Beautiful music.

[@Childhoof]

"KOOKS"...he referenced the Bowie song that's been in my head for weeks!

[@bluBlaq33]

Back when music mattered. I regret not being my age in the mid to late 90’s. I’m too young to truly know it, but the glimpses of that I remember stayed with me and they are fantastic.

[@cronullacruller]

I'm obsessed with the way Trent Reznor says "thinkin"

[@shervincortest4077]

RIP David we all will remember you with your amazing voice and music,you did really good the first punk rock band great music and Trent is so talented he is a real star.

[@screamengine]

Even Severus Snape is forced to laugh and smile in the presence of the most giant demigod of general & true artistic relevance.

[@Emulous79]

Two legends who worked with David Lynch. Creative geniuses all.

[@mola55e5]

I had already seen the Downward Spiral tour 3x when they announced this tour. Of course I went. One of the best concert experiences I’ve ever had. Prick was a great opener too.

[@davidsfishtanks9347]

We miss David Bowie !! thanks for sharing !!

[@theresamagario3008]

i love all the people on camera here

[@xenorama7033]

Awww, Trent looks like such a nerd! Cutie pie

[@mikejett2733]

I wish they would hav done more together before Dave's passing

[@mikesmelon5714]

Thank God that Trent lived through TDS tour and the extra year of touring with Bowie in '95. David was the catalyst that ended up saving Trent after all was said and done. This tour's transition from NIN into Bowie and the overlap when they were both on stage and Trent looked over and realized that he was at the caliber of David Bowie ended up being his drive to keep on the right track after the tour ended. We are lucky to have new music from Trent Reznor every year and not just a look back at what could have been like we can only imagine with such 90's artists like Shannon Hoon or Kurt Cobain.

[@legzfalloffgirl5148]

how many times does David's jacket squeak during this interview?😍

[@Abruzzo333]

I saw the NIN/Bowie tour in 1995. The featured in each others sets collaborating on particular songs. Bowie did Reptile and possibly Hurt and Trent did Scary Monsters and another one.

[@thirdstrike4u]

i laughed and shook his hand made my way back home😎

[@davidcopson5800]

I gazed a gazely stare when I read that.

[@WarriorOfHeaven]

@@davidcopson5800 I spoke of was and when in Bowies voice when I read this. 🤙

[@zippy1969]

thanks for posting MTV

[@Jefwth1F]

Still one of my favorite concerts

[@HauntedAbysss]

so amazing to see them remastered in almost HD. hahah good times

[@mcamuya]

Is it me or would David Bowie make an amazing joker?

[@davidcopson5800]

He was an 'amazing joker'. (if you meant Batman's antagonist you needed to use a capital J)

[@francisfmusic]

What a great collaboration!

[@guinnessharvey4476]

I wish I was born to see these two perform live together

[@brianjoyce9040]

David Bowie agagain being perfectly cutting edge and fearlessly original

[@Eexpers]

These early reznor interviews give me so much hope and inspiration - he's so awkward and uncomfortable i can feel the anxiety but after the fragile (with teeth on) hes so much more comfortable anxiety is a bitch its nice to look at reznor just as obviously bad i imagine i am to others and see the light on the other side much the same also unrelated to my story but always going to heap praise onto NIN - TDS is amazing but The Fragile is a masterpiece and the 6 year follow-up with teeth is close with TDS BUT this is without a doubt the best era of NIN for trent... why? sobriety and getting comfortable with himself lead to absolutely perfecting the live shows in every single way there is not a single song that is not better live from this period

[@tomperry5947]

Funny interview they bounce of each other so we’ll and they’re even colour coordinated. Bowie looks dope as hell

[@alexpender6317]

Whenever I watched interviews of David in the 70s, I'm like, pleasE someone feed this poor tiny thing and then let him sleep for like two years lol. Like god someone look after this man. And thats also how I feel watching interviews with trent in the 90s. So it's just like, so heartwarming and satisfying seeing David all healthy and content after having overcome a lot of his own struggles with addiction and whatnot, and like seeing him working with trent musically (which is so fucking cool in and of itself), and also like, looking after trent a lil bit when he was just a "shy unassuming little guy...with a scorching demon inside". And just the way trent seems to look up to him so much. But also like its not even patronizing, like you can tell bowie admires trent's work too. The whole thing just....awh. 🥹 just melts my heart lol. I dont think there will ever again be such an amazing pair, musically or otherwise ❤

[@gabrielyoung1877]

Trent has such a 'cutting' voice. it stands out.

[@buzzfunk]

Miss those days. MTV was still somewhat cool. Kurt is a legend. Bowie and Trent. I mean, heaven.

[@shirinatron3585]

The way the interviewer's sat lmao

[@vneo42]

Bowie is so gorgeous here, inimitably cool…

[@orsok]

Up until recently, i have never seen trent. Here he is laughing . So different. Bowie brought out the best in all of us. RIP BOWIE

[@Mirrorglassball]

Trent looks like Jack White so much in this video.

[@Rob_Shoot]

Oh how I miss the good old days of MTV.

[@AudreyRedbyrne]

Sure miss this man

[@jeannetpierre1]

Two beautiful and extremely talented men I adore 💋💋💋💋💋💋💋💋💋💋💋💋💋

[@hurremshaikh6720]

snape reznor

[@SniffyPoo]

i was lucky enough to see this tour. the combined-bands part was fun. unfortunately a lot of the crowd left during Bowie's set, because they were there for NIN

[@FWDSUXARSE]

Saw them both in concert back in 1996. One of my favorite concerts along with NIN and Soundgarden back in 2014, a few years before Cornell left this world. My wife had never seen either band live so it was a pretty special time just a couple of months before we got married on Halloween, which happens to be her birthday, our anniversary, and my favorite holiday. It wasn't planned that date. Both of us worked at the same company in completely different departments but HR at our now former company was pure garbage and we both had successful careers so we had to play their game. Never again a company can get bent I'll find something else.

[@julietv3863]

Woah that’s like the CROW crazy GOD BLESS U GUYS ❤🫶🏻

[@umokay1991]

Bowie has worked with some incredible bands over the years. Not just NIN, but also bands like Placebo and Kashmir, and so many others. Dude had great taste in music.

[@TheFos88]

Placebo is so good and underrated. So cool they worked together.

[@StraightPunkEdge93]

1995 Trent Reznor 😍 what a babe

[@pbplauralfilms]

Bowie completely at peace with himself here; like Neo seeing through the code in The Matrix

[@benfox6383]

This is the most I've ever seen Trent smile

[@sebastiansatin5488]

Such a great people together!!!

[@XSpector88]

Two titans of their respective generations... and MTV when it wasn't unwatchable garbage 24/7.

[@nonaarnold6828]

The interaction is great. I especially like David Bowie's laughter. And he got a left ring finger manicured color "petrol"? :-)

[@SmithMrCorona]

Look at Kurt, sitting on that chair like a cool guy. YOU'RE A COOL GUY, KURT!

[@sweethair2310]

Favorite Bowie record.

[@utoobjunkie4902]

Bowie looks like he doesn't feel quite well, physically, that day.

[@aep1974]

I saw that tour, amazing!

[@TeaLaRee]

That couch is going to melt with so much hotness going on. 😍

[@christopherrandolphharris2902]

superb

[@jasonpeters9716]

"Hearts Filthy Lesson" still my fav Bowie song to-date! 1995 movie "Se7en" was cool, but the ending credits with Boiwe song? Was unbelievable.. Especially after the GOAT ending to a movie to date.

[@tedtaylor367]

David Bowie always has an answer on every interview I've ever seen 🤖

[@Ute83]

Love them both 😊

[@moneyatslander]

My god , the money I would give to see a dual headline concert. I have seen both Live (thankfully) but I would would give anything to see them both headline.

[@MedicFromTF2_REAL]

*LEGENDS*