David Foster Wallace on Commercial literature and reading

Edited version of the ZDFmediatek interview with David Foster Wallace.
This version offers David Foster Wallace's ideas, without repetitions, long pauses, interviewer's comments. Although some cuts may appear rough, there is no attempt at editorial bias or content manipulation. Mr. Wallace's archives (books in his library, notes, and writings) have been recently acquired by the Harry Ransom Center at the University of Texas Austin (google it)

[@Applebutter52]

A video of a man lamenting about the decrease in our attention spans and mental effort cut down to 4 minutes so it takes less effort to digest.

[@cawfeedawg]

Here is the full version of this interview in higher resolution for the rest of us that can actually listen to this man for days never mind minutes kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3ivq4qaiZypfcU

[@bobzilla211]

We really do live in a society

[@LardBucket_]

That's what's funny to me; I probably wouldn't have clicked this video on my front page if it was >5min

[@StephenDoty84]

Cut down to 4 minutes? No, you got it backwards. These points could have been made in half the time.

[@aelix56]

I feel like it's a really narcissistic and pedantic claim. If your book feels like stabbing nails into your urethra while reading it because it's boredom in literature shape, that's not on the reader and his "intellect" or "lack of attention span", that's on the writer and his lack of skill. Books must be either educational or entertaining, if you don't fill in either of those you've failed as a writer.

[@Bombtrack411]

The part about the "dread of quiet" is really true and more relevant than ever.

[@brainsareus]

Even within the music of today, and in some of the better stuff as well; there just aren't many musical rests anymore. It's just sort of, loud droning, continuous sound.

[@SpiderWick12]

@@brainsareus that's an interesting observation to me. Idk if it's true, but it's interesting

[@jacobloving6765]

brainsareus System of a Down has good Stops

[@skiphoffenflaven8004]

Mr Bungle was great at creating down times.

[@SpiderWick12]

@@matthewseanmclachlan what're you even responding to?

[@user-qb3jg8ep9t]

Some times I just want to make him breakfast and help him put on his bandana

[@ConsumeristScroffa]

That's so random it made me laugh.

[@sterlinghayden4096]

ww wifi , he didn't't need any help with his bandana.

[@Syllogyzym]

i'll get the shovel

[@ternampak]

@Cravat Stevens why are you so angry?

[@BeauJames59]

Apparently, so did a number of women when he was on book tours. (wink)

[@GLaYn]

"We don't want things to be quiet anymore", Aldous Huxley did a marvelous essay just about that.

[@neilcaffrey7791]

May I Ask The name of this essay please?

[@michaelwilson1683]

the rest is silence

[@neilcaffrey7791]

@@michaelwilson1683 thank you very much!

[@andreapolli3755]

I really like one thing from this interview: you can see how his brain works way faster than his mouth. He's about to say something but he has to stop and say something like "well, not always" or "that's not always true"; and his eyes go somewhere and pick up other thoughts, other interpretations of reality, other points of view. He argues himself and his thought before he could even say it. And he really needs to struggle to find the right word to be less wrong. And it is something you can feel from his writings too. A beautiful mind, with huge awareness of reality in its whole.

[@mbw6785]

I noticed that too. I think I've experienced it. If I have, if it's the same kind of thing (for I am not nearly as intelligent or articulate as this man) then I know that it is terribly exhausting

[@gmmay70]

Everyone's brain works far faster than their mouths.

[@Yzjoshuwave]

I've definitely had this experience as well -- of casting my mind along a variety of tangents and getting ahead of myself in the process. Writing has actually helped quite a bit with this, because I'll get into a good flow-state and my thoughts seem to pace to the process and rhythm of letting the words out. It's something I deliberately worked on, actually. Instead of writing in fits and starts, logging a sentence and then planning out what I'm going to say next, I'll just let the words flow out and try to let a really smooth rhythm emerge. My best writing definitely comes when I'm in that smoothly flowing state -- no question. I do still have a residuum of those prior issues: maybe one can never quite eliminate them completely, but the main place I've been noticing it is that when I go back to read what I wrote, I'll catch these spots where a word I intended to write was completely omitted purely because my mind outpaced the writing. It's usually small words that are more structural though. The big and interesting words generally make it in.

[@PhilaPeter]

check out the Elon Musk Joe Rogan interview. You can see the gears whirring inside Musk's skull if you watch his eyes.

[@timsopinion]

"Infinite Digress"

[@BrendaSchwab]

2020 where my algorithm-riders at

[@patchesmalonescolorfulthin9313]

Hand raises slowly**

[@mrengulfeddirector]

Ayyy we have no control party time

[@nicomurder]

Oy wey

[@TheAZElele]

💃🏾💃🏾💃🏾

[@gorgolyt]

I honestly think it sent me here because I was watching The Office clips and David Wallace is a character.

[@ironflazambat5815]

It scares me how much I agree with some of the things Wallace says, because it makes me feel so alone in a world where so many of the close friends/family I have would just consider thoughts like these to be overthinking and move on, while dilemmas like these bother me and linger in my mind for much longer. I just feel lonely for someone who can level with me sometimes, instead of just trying to get me to move on and stop thinking about a certain thing. I don’t know. I just feel real lonely sometimes, I guess.

[@thebrave4974]

You are not alone buddy

[@mudskippa8958]

I feel the same.

[@flappyturtlesnatch]

You're definitely not alone. There's more of us than it seems.

[@EdDunkle]

We all feel lonely, frequently

[@samirmahat5929]

Go to a good uni mate you’ll meet a lot of ppl the talk to

[@markcarey67]

I was a live sound engineer professionally in my 20s and it would always bug me that people always wanted to put on recorded music between the live bands' sets - Sometimes after a particularly good set by a band I would "forget" to do this so people could dwell on what they just heard for a while and someone from whatever venue I was mixing would always run up to me within a couple of minutes without fail and insist I put the recorded music on as if I was simply incompetent and not doing my job.

[@BrownSoldier96]

What do you do for work now?

[@astroNexx]

i bow to you

[@g.e.whitman]

I love this and I love at the end he says "I dont know"

[@skiphoffenflaven8004]

He was absolutely right about the lack of quiet, purposeful reading among many people in the U.S.

[@solodolotrevino]

Who has the time when everyone is working 50+ hours for pennies just to stay afloat. Throw in social media and there’s no longer an attention span to sit down and read. We don’t want to actively think anymore, we want to escape our daily drudgery

[@skiphoffenflaven8004]

Trevino Or throw it out, hehe! I ditched FB over a year ago, that great time suck. At least KZbin offers documentaries, movies, concerts, interviews, and art gallery visits. But I don’t have to visit YT. And I don’t have to read. Big difference, however, is that culturally for me, reading was ingrained early on. Sitting in/walking in woods or a park without a cell phone and just a book isn’t some act of sacrifice or rebellion. I work full-time, and have for decades. Don’t make much but also don’t want much. Just enough for rent, food, medicine, gasoline, and utilities. Spare moments or down time -> reading. Choice. Actively think...when I stop doing that, it’s time to check out, hehe!

[@flukislucas]

On average people work fewer hours per day now than at any time in history, so that’s not why. Reading is only a means of communication and in today’s world there are far more ways, easier ways, to ingest information. Less than 150 years ago all there was were books. Most people like the quicker and easier way to do things. Is this good or bad? Maybe

[@jhonviel7381]

@@flukislucas its only bad because those who control the easily digestible media are not interested in the well being of the human being.

[@skiphoffenflaven8004]

Crow Hehe!

[@Minotauronabike]

Imagine if David had lived until today. He would probably have some very interesting thoughts on the phenomena of twitter, instagram, facebook, and vine. So it goes.

[@mbw6785]

I was listening to one of his 1996 interviews the other day, and based on that, I think to observe those things would have been incredibly painful for him.

[@sterlinghayden4096]

Minotauronabike , I think he lived long enough. He spoke of people's thumbs growing longer from playing with their smart fone so.

[@acetate909]

Probably? LoL Ya, he _probably_ would have some things to say about culture. What an insightful comment.

[@muraddiab6393]

His widow said he would cringe if he knew how much of a celebrity writer bro his death made him.

[@Loomr]

Actually in 2008 Facebook had already been up and public for ~2 years, twitter for ~2-3 years. For games WoW had been out for 4 years, CS for 8. Vine does not matter, instagram isn't that important either. Also, there were many other services resembling these two in 2000-2008. What changed were the hordes of annoying normies that began to enter the internet. Also maybe more thots than even before began to pimp themselves on it. Thus DFW probably already saw what the internet was about. So you are not that special just having used these shallow commercial services and they are not that different from the ones that existed before them.

[@harleycynofficial]

"When people stop talking, their brains start to work." -- Douglas Adams

[@informalliteraryexperiments]

Nice.

[@darraghfarrell2245]

Being alone and it being quiet is the reason I love reading.

[@matthewgordonpettipas6773]

Amen!

[@Earbly]

If you watch the full interview, the cameraman gets all pissy at one point because David keeps "moving back and forth, in and out and frame." As a photographer it just pains me that he didn't think to maybe move the camera back for more space in the frame. It should be intuition. The guy was a real prick and made me feel bad for David. Like it's not the person who's being interviewed's job to worry about framing issues. Anyway, great interview.

[@connorsullivan9287]

skin09588 At the 9:23 mark of the uncut interview: KZbin.com/watch?v=iGLzWdT7vGc

[@DanielBoonelight]

@@connorsullivan9287 his response to the miserable prick is absolute perfection "i would trade places with you at any time" ~ which is ironically also true of most anyone watching this video, who'd kill to be that videographer.

[@CGMiller]

Ugh yes I can't stand that part. It's like dude... his face is barely fitting into the frame half the time... zoom out or back up or something... sheeshhhhhh

[@pierrehome-douglas7785]

Boy, what he says back then (when was this--almost 20 years ago?) rings SO true today as people become more addicted to their cellphones and can't go 30 seconds without amusing/entertaining themselves. Sitting down and focussing on a challenging novel today. As they say in New York, for 99 percent of the people, fuggedaboutit. I wish I had had the pleasure of knowing this man.

[@EdDunkle]

I knew someone at Pomona College who used to smoke cigarettes with him. She said he was a very nice guy. That's as close as I ever got.

[@billmyers991]

The famine of the “small quiet voice"

[@acropolisnow9466]

Man, you can say that again.

[@billmyers991]

@Adam Sloan you're starving for silence, the vibration of nature, but you've been irradiated in digital information, to the point where you can't sleep, take back your life before it's too late

[@bigboysdotcom745]

Thank you for the specific advice, mr guru. I'll get on "taking back my life" ASAP.

[@nealg3546]

The bit in Infinite Jest about videophony is so relevant now to the Teams/Zoom Invasiveness of the stay-at-home life.

[@Patrick-od2bd]

Nice profile pic of a fine chap of a dog lol

[@dpolitz4]

“There are quiet places also in the mind,” he said, meditatively. “But we build bandstand and factories on them. Deliberately-to put a stop to the quietness. We don’t like the quietness. All the thoughts, all the preoccupation in my head-round and round continually.” He made a circular motion with his hands. “And the jazz bands, the music hall songs, the boys shouting the news. What’s it all for? To put an end to the quiet, to break it up and disperse it, to pretend at any cost it isn’t there. Ah, but it is, it is there, in spite of everything, at the back of everything. Lying awake at night, sometimes-not restlessly, but serenely, waiting for sleep-the quiet re-establishes itself, piece by piece; all the broken bits, all the fragments of it we’ve been so busily dispersing all day long. It re-establishes itself, an inward quiet, like this outward quiet of grass and trees. It fills one, it grows -a crystal quiet, a growing expanding crystal. It grows, it becomes more perfect; it is beautiful and terrifying, yes, terrifying, as well as beautiful. For one’s alone in the crystal and there’s no support from outside, there’s nothing external and important, nothing external and trivial to pull oneself up by or to stand up, superiorly, contemptuously, so that one can look down. There’s nothing to laugh at or feel enthusiastic about. But the quiet grows and grows. Beautifully and unbearably. And at last you are conscious of something approaching; it is almost a faint sound of footsteps. Something inexpressibly lovely and wonderful advances through the crystal, nearer, nearer. And oh, inexpressibly terrifying. For if it were to touch you, if it were to seize and engulf you, you’d die; all the regular habitual, daily part of you would die. There would be and end of bandstands and whizzing factories, and one would have to begin living arduously in the quiet, arduously n some strange unheard-of manner. Nearer, nearer come the steps; but one can’t face the advancing thing. One daren’t. It’s too terrifying; it’s too painful to die. Quickly, before it is too late, start the factory wheels, bang the drum, blow up the saxophone. Think of the women you’d like to sleep with, the schemes for making money, the gossip about your friends, the last outrage of the politicians. Anything for a diversion. Break the silence, smash the crystal to pieces. There, it lies in bits; it is easily broken, hard to build up and easy to break. And the steps? Ah, those have taken themselves off, double quick. Double quick, they were gone at the flawing of the crystal. And by this time the lovely and terrifying thing is three infinities away, at least. And you lie tranquilly on your bed, thinking of what you’d do if you had ten thousand pounds and of all the fornications you’ll never commit.” ― Aldous Huxley

[@jonoruealferez5250]

Could you please tell me where this quote is from?

[@e.e.-wi9ii]

From his novel Antic Hay​@@jonoruealferez5250

[@motzke08]

Wow, he has such an pleasant voice, I could listen for hours.

[@Maggieokeefevideo]

so true - just read on his wiki that he was in his college's glee club :D

[@smokyprogg]

Is it any surprise this dude killed himself? Every critique of modern culture he had back in the 90's just keeps getting worse.

[@davidpaul6290]

This guy honestly sounds like a pretentious muppet.

[@drraziashahine8160]

Thats coz you re an idiot.

[@davidpaul6290]

@@drraziashahine8160 *you’re *because

[@drraziashahine8160]

@@davidpaul6290 so you re an idiot with an ocd .

[@davidpaul6290]

@@drraziashahine8160 Hey buddy, if you’re going to defend a literary, “genius” by calling me an idiot, maybe learn how to spell basic English. The projection’s delicious though, thanks.

[@ouroboros98]

beautiful, gifted man. I could listen to him for hours. It seems that in his final days, he had begun to feel that his literary style had become a gimmick and lost its vitality. I would only say that Infinite Jest is the most ambitious book I have ever read, and if the style became a gimmick in the end, it was worth it for this work alone.

[@spd13062]

I completely understand DFW's ideas on quiet....my wife and I were getting gas at a local Shell station last weekend and the pump we were on suddenly (very loudly) began giving us NFL updates as soon as we engaged the pump with an ATM card. The same news was being piped in (very loudly) to anyone else getting gas. A symphony of NFL news. I lamented to my wonderful wife that we can't even get gas without an amazing amount of noise. It bugs me.

[@beflygelt]

the part about your brain yearning for silence when it's been fed a lot of stimuli rings very true with me. Maybe it was because I was looking at DFW's glasses but the analogy of the muscles in your eye was an immediate comparison. There's two muscles, one which makes your pupil wide and one which makes it small - when it's just the same muscle working the whole time the other one gets weak and you become shortsighted. Which also rings very true to me as a metaphor, you loose the ability to think further ahead, and you get headaches.

[@cahyasatixoxo7207]

Damn, 20 years later and I’m a 22 year old whose friends get mad at him for recommending books. Maybe it’s for the better he isn’t here to see how much worse it’s gotten.

[@dougwolfe1711]

had to replay that video about ten times cause i kept being distracted

[@WhatIsDreampunk]

Ugh, that's horrible. 😑 My situation wasn't much better though. I watched this 4-minute video over a period of about 18 hours because I kept getting pulled away from it by external demands.

[@davidanderson4729]

Rather ironic

[@eddygci8]

Because it’s very boring

[@dewanmdurnto3592]

@@eddygci8 true,

[@eddygci8]

Small Dolphin duh what?

[@Louieman]

wow, so insightful and spot-on. And the humble, depressingly-tinged "I dunno" at the end really sums it up best. Patience, thoughtfulness, the commitment to time--they're all being bullied and subverted in modern culture. It's so sad

[@telephilia]

One of the great minds of his generation. He will be missed.

[@matthewbritt8498]

So so so so true. And this is becoming more and more apparent and more of an issue today

[@davidgagnon3781]

Shakespeare was popular entertainment. So was Dostoevsky. So was Greek Drama. What a pretentious load of crap modern art is.

[@mattsspats]

truely heartbreaking to have lost him. Just read a passage in Infinite Jest where he is describing depression, clearly his depression and his suffering was so profound, all the more profound because of his ability to articulate it.

[@mick5137]

He could articulate his suffering - and he could spell truly.

[@jonprude2557]

right on! Although his novel sounds like the most pretentious piece of sh't ever- the "woke," Gen-X guy- he's onto it about everything else. He might have been happier as a mechanic with a wife and 2 kids, instead of, what, Proust/Kerouac meets the "modern," entertainment machine. You don't have to be a genius in a bandanna to know how dumb it is, now, then, whenever...

[@Rayndrops]

You don't have to be alone to read-not if you're with another person who is also reading.

[@EdDunkle]

Yeah, but that's the dream isn't it?

[@3264-m3b]

A friend of mine read Infinite Jest last year, and he had to go back to various points in the novel many times to try and fully grasp his own interpretation on what David was trying to say. He's still on the fence about the book to be honest, and I haven't read it yet. I'm just amazed that David finished something like that (along with his later works) with so much darkness in him. I imagine that he had to struggle with many demons every time he sat down to put words to paper.

[@descriptionsuchandsuch4709]

isn't that a good thing? If one needs a lot of time to decide it something is good or bad? Most Art today can be consumed, immediately judged and than discarded (forgotten). If he's on the fence about that book it might mean that he has to reevaluate his metric of what constitutes a good book. In my opinion that is what defines great art: It forces us to evaluate our position relative to it. It presents us with a problem and in order to solve it, we sometimes have to change ourselves. It could at least mean the understanding that things are not necessarily only in one of the two categories we call "good" and "bad".

[@heeheehawhawheehee]

Its about an infinite amount of jest

[@OneManArmy1421]

I read it during the pandemic and just finished. It was three months well spent.

[@patriciakedeni]

How I wished he had lived for another 30 years, at least. Now we are left to lament the lost body of work he could have given this world.

[@drakedoragon3026]

I perfect example of fears of being along is solitary confinement... act up and we'll make you be with yourself. That's why it's so important to be with yourself as much as possible.

[@jpisty]

I have lost the ability to sit down and read. Decades of stimulation from tv, internet and cell phone have fried my dopamine receptors. It didn’t use to be like this for me 😢

[@TactileTherapy]

Trying to be an author with a unique voice refusing to pander in this day and age, is perhaps the most difficult thing i have ever attempted in my life. Being a young, black male from the hood writing about science-fiction that has nothing to do with drugs, alcohol, basketball, or sex but instead astrophysics, alien life, politics and family while everyone rather watch videos on their phones depresses me beyond belief

[@Misserbi]

I think there are two types of audiences: 1) The ones who buy what is out and come back to it. The sophists and such who are driven by the latest and greatest -- who make waves. 2) The ones who sit inside a small niche making it seem like everything worth anything is unearthed. 3) Then you have the classical, romance, foreign, and other genrists (including the deceased writers club) who are well versed in everthing else. I think the third group is the used book store enthusiasts who have a wealth of literature at their disposal that has already survived the test of time.

[@thewirah1]

Soldiers used to read Les Miserables during the civil war.

[@obamna666]

I hope Mr. Wallace is not overlooking the hard and strange and out-of-the-mainstream rock and rap music...things one can think hard about and engage deeply with just as with classical music or literature

[@delaware5209]

Well, he's been dead for twelve years, so hopefully that answers your question.

[@ayapotato7429]

In 1990 he wrote a book titled Signifying Rappers. David was 28 back then, it was one of his earlier works. So, fair to say, he was aware of the rap scene 🙂

[@CelestialWoodway]

Americans for the most part hate literature, art, classical music. They like rock and rap music, and Hollywood movies. If you have a job you hate and you are tired when you get home you just want to binge watch Netflix and have a few beers. Too exhausted to read.

[@rokeeffe91]

Could be just me, but when he suddenly smiles when he says "drudgery" @ 1:52 caught me so off guard, my heart damn near leapt out of my chest!

[@paulnich28]

That moment when I realized he’s right about all those dumb people without any patience while watching at 1.5 speed 😮

[@LMyers-cf9qd]

The dread of being silent growing by means of our culture . . .

[@indigolee4761]

True intelligent people love to be quiet cuz they aren't afraid to face there thoughts and find out your purpose. It's easy to pull out a mini tv (iPhone) and watch. Not enough living and too much watching. The world is mostly zombies addicted to there phones thinking just like the herd. All love tho hopefully next life I'm born into a world of true understanding and not a world where we have forgotten who we are. Anyways, thoughts from a balcony, just saying!

[@jkane797]

Libraries aren't even quiet anymore. People are incapable of STFU.

[@Artzineonline]

@thisisgrey "It is unimaginably hard to do this, to stay conscious and alive, day in and day out." -DFW Superficiality, I suppose is a way out of this responsibility. His novel Infinite Jest illustrates this point. The Novel is "deep" but it's also FUN to read, so the answer, I imagine, is to try to reach a balance of both.

[@smooothstepper]

You cannot do it without both. We are all alive because we enjoy living even if it sometimes takes the better of us. But sometimes when we lose the balance and only want to ENJOY LIFE then our life becomes troubling to us and there seems no point. Most people solve problems like these subconsciously but some don't.

[@jmorrisspeaking]

a moment of silence is still on my bucket list

[@alexandernagel8205]

I have a friend who teaches high school in Long Beach and he has a pretty bitter and realistic picture of the education system. He just doesn’t expect his students to do the assigned reading anymore when you’re worried about feeding your family. I saw plenty of bright, bright people continue to fail in my SI and tutoring sessions simply because they were never given the opportunity to acquire the necessary skills. It’s a systemic sort of thing that I can’t think too much on because if I do well.... I get pretty depressed....

[@mick5137]

Those immortal words from John Taylor Gatto about the school system: don't try to reform it because it does exactly what it was designed to do.

[@alexandernagel8205]

Michael H man... it is a system

[@dipper0yawn]

I like his humility.

[@hghbunger927]

@8644371 This is the dumbest argument among probably smart people I have ever seen. Reading breeds imagination, I thought if nothing else everyone understood that, the setup takes a little more work, but having a narrator shouldn't invalidate any of the side pleasure that you as a reader get out of it. Your right on certain counts, there is no reason to use big words when you don't have to, that stuff does piss me off, but many words do more than describe, they carry an implicit feeling.

[@kucftbueouy9902]

If you liked this, you should watch the movie Slacker from 1991.

[@metal134]

You don't need to be taught to ENJOY it, you need to be taught to UNDERSTAND it at which point the enjoyment follows. I tend to find simplification because people are to lazy to think to be what is suspect if you ask me because it implies a dumbing down of the culture and there is nothing more easy to control than a passive, uneducated population.

[@pineapplegirl01]

Even when he talked he just said things so beautifully

[@michaelwilliamson2255]

What an incredible piece to think about and comment on. I am going to have to save this and write about it. I guess this is what literary and social criticism is about. RIP Mr. Foster.

[@terenceboris851]

he's right on. Greater rewards in life require work and focus

[@14u2ponder]

The irony in all of this is that the old cliche is true: that it takes a lot of hard working making something look so easy. David Foster Wallace, perhaps his one genius, was that he decided that he could forgo the part of the process to make something readable and wrote from a place of freedom of expression. But even still, it doesn't make Infinite Jest any less broken as a narrative, or any more effective than say, Ralph Ellison's Invisible Man. And perhaps David had something important to say to the world, but he hid it in mountains of jargon and over-explanations.

[@Erwin009]

WOW - that was really bad. ...and this gross overgeneraliztion about America compared to the rest of the world, by someone who obviously has not traveled.

[@Moonless6491]

I read high fantasy novels at work when my machine is reality because reality is too oppressive. The collective is ready to assimilate

[@dennismason3740]

When did he cut his hair? Where is the bandana?! Why is Gamora?

[@nikki-qb7iq]

I've been putting off reading Infinite Jest with Stephen King books... sorry DFW

[@justinliu5061]

Murakami R stephen kings not that bad

[@tpstrat14]

I've thought this for ten years. Everywhere plays music and I hate it. I the notion that I need music force fed to me while I shop or eat something.

[@BlueArcStreaming]

Wow, this is fascinating. Brilliant man.

[@1dbanner]

The dread of quiet is the root of so many bad choices

[@hanawana]

beautiful Minded man

[@tmmrtn]

Think about all the people you know, maybe including yourself, that just put TV shows on "in the background".

[@danielyoung6778]

That's a phenomenon that's always confused me. Like why put something on unless you're going to devote attention to it? If it can't hold your attention then why are you watching it?

[@onecentnickel]

I think partly what he's trying to conclude with the portion where he talks about inner complexities not being fed enough. We all have this sort of wiry inside of our minds, and clearing it and digging through it, and analyzing it takes time but provides a clearing of the entanglement within us. Many people I think are scared of what they will find, or that they will be incapable of doing it, and so they never start, and ignore the hardship that they may have to endure. So the corporations (such a cliche way to put it sorry) and things for profit create a fast paced environment, a sort of turnabout setup where we drive in and out, but always come full circle and never really get anywhere, we never dig deep enough.

[@DowntownCanon]

I found that following authors on Twitter greatly reduced my attention span for reading their books.

[@roryhigsmit]

can't stop touching his nose bless him

[@cterrel]

I feel like I should be stealing second when I watch him

[@nicorose4814]

Way ahead of his time. Such a wise pov

[@tomaszstefaniuk9449]

Such an inteligent, sensitive human being!

[@tc9634]

I think certain computer games, because of the interactive nature have perhaps helped create a new, or recreate that ability in the consumer of art (in its broadest definition of creative media) to put work into gaining more satisfaction out of it. Plenty of games try to do little more than recreate an action movie, which is fine and they have their place, but for example the Harry potter books, films and games - I can go back and read/watch/play through them all and love it and I really enjoy the depth of knowledge and immersion I have about that universe. Or EVE Online which is such an open-ended game there are still new ... Careers/activities both within and outside the game mechanics being thought up. I remember my first time exploring low sec, null sec, wormhole space, first time of faction warfare, first PvP fight, first time in a stealth bomber, first time bombing some miners in wh space and stealing I think a few hundred mil isk of loot, and the depth of the universe, the depth of the fact that I had had to earn all the money I had to buy all the shit I had to do all the things I did. Of course it's only natural if you go from stationary art (books, photographs) and introduce the magic of cinema and then TV and music and sound to accompany it, and make it so easily available and accessible, that the mass consumer will adapt but I think we are starting to see both counter-examples and examples of other better things. Every new medium introduces at first hype, euphoria, addiction and eventually adaptation and integration. When TV became mainstream people used to watch hours a day, now I think perhaps because of streaming there is so much choice that people have to be picky. And you could argue that just looking at reviews like Rotten Tomatoes to gauge if it's worth watching is a cheap shortcut to discovering that peice of art for yourself. But people have always done the same thing with books and films and TV shows. You know, people have always been addictive and addicted. Around the turn of the century in Britain we had simultaneous gambling, alcohol, tobacco, cocaine, opium etc. Addictions on scales unseen since. It's not new, it's just different.

[@damonarvid3548]

hard + drudgery = more satisfying at the end of it

[@gaminawulfsdottir3253]

I really enjoyed what he said about things that are hard and involving a certain amount of drudgery yielding satisfaction in the end.

[@exit13productions50]

I totally agree with basically everything he's saying. Very well said.

[@acetate909]

What don't you agree with.

[@MartinUToob]

I'd wager that the nervous system has to adjust to whatever new environment it's subjected to (the same as in, let's say, meditation or, physically, yoga). People are subjected to many different cultural, social, and physical environments. Humans are notable in their "psychological plasticity"; however, that's still going to be subject to constraints of habit, economics, class, and insight. I suppose the overhead music is an "average", which nobody likes but all can tolerate (what's the intergral there? ) Anyway, how necessary is drudgery? (I don't know, how much are you paid for it?) 🤔💭🍕👙.....📚?

[@BertBerg]

humans please live beyond, i am struggling with it myself but it's important i think not guess, think sincerely

[@comu157]

Now, for me the most important aspect of this video is his perception of the high stimulus of public places. I'm not North American, my base culture is quite different, but is much pretty much the same as American culture nowadays. Sometime ago I took my sister to drink some bullshit juice that was trending in town, when we entered the place I felt the shaking of my eardrums. It was just a kind of pop/electronic music, very banal stuff. Long version short, I left from the place with a kind of anxiety, a feeling of doom was creeping in, as if culture was about to turn into a faceless child. Edit: I cannot say about the public space before I was born, it surely was no library, but surely was not that hell it is now. And yet the juice shop isn't a public space it still is a shared space.

[@KingMinosxxvi]

Thank you David. I didn't finish your book (about half)......but I love you.

[@davidanderson4729]

The Pale King, though unfinished, was about this very topic. How to sit, be quiet, focus, and dread and tedium and repetition. Good read, and again, though unfinished, I'd recommend to serious readers.

[@jordil6152]

I think people have an inherent need to exert their presence on their environment through noise. It’s not a new phenomenon but the blasting of music on an environment, even when music is already being played in the environment such as a bar, is quite common. It’s bizarre to me, since I use media to withdrawal from strangers in my environment (headphones in the grocery store). I would love to hear what McLuhan would say about assholes who blast their subwoofer infested music out of their cars.

[@holy_shushcabin3716]

We experience an information overload every time we unlock our phones. Snapchat stories, Instagram stories, and Facebook stories (notice a pattern?) deliver ephemeral, brief content - too long and it becomes suspiciously unorthodox and loses its appeal to a frantic audience. Stories also prevent a backlog of information.

[@SamuelDaram]

Thank you so much for uploading these DFW interviews. These are so precious.

[@murdermygymsox]

I was tempted to close my Internet window because this video was taking "too long" too load. I'm glad I stayed to watch the whole thing.

[@NiePieerdol]

That's old school

[@vuuvovuuv]

funny that wallace is some kind of a symbol of postmodern literature, but even while he consistently espoused some kind of last gasp that a modernist, "lemme tell it to ya straight" view

[@nuki5051]

It is 2020 now and these problems are not only in USA, but also in Europe.

[@kingcole55]

This man touches his face constantly

[@annalisavajda252]

Yes Hollywood obviously doesn't "own" him he's the best but has very little ego about it. DiCaprio tells the story of being so nervous trying to persuade him to come out of retirement for Gangs of New York and so thrilled Daniel agreed just put of sentimentality for Scorsce because they had done Age of Innocence together presumably. He's an Irish shoemaker sounds suspiciously like a secret leprechaun magical fae folk man lol.

[@oulipolesceptique9449]

We are changing rapidly as a species --they way we choose to consume information, the value or lack of value we assign to it. The way we make decisions, the way we think about ourselves and other people. We're getting very good at some skills and completely losing others. It's accelerating at a quicker pace all the time. Scary. DFW saw this.

[@pentelegomenon1175]

Northrop Frye once said that books are the most technologically efficient machine that man has ever invented, it's still oddly true even with the concerted effort in recent years to replace them with audiobooks and e-readers, in addition to just the internet in general which can create a lot of unhappiness in someone like me who is a reader but also an addictive personality.

[@brianlandes1]

This guy's going to make me have an existential crisis by not meeting the criterion of his mind idea of genius.

[@imp.r]

I think it's easier than that. The written word, except when explicitly and purposefully conveying information, is art. This is the reason why, for example, painting lingers. You can't nudge writing out of the way using HD screens for the same reason writing can't displace sculpting, or painting, or music or dancing -- art isn't subject to the number of pixels on your screen.

[@FreezerKing]

@Artzineonline In the disease of depression, you understand the distortions it is making in your reality but you still can't get around them. This makes the depression even worse. It's a wonder he lasted so long.

[@dogwalk3]

wish we could have seen him interact with eckhart tolle, or his take on 2020.

[@jeffrloudon]

David Foster Wallace looks like Pollux Troy from Face/Off kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGGQnqWilqyJeNU

[@Forehead2Brick]

It's hard for me to imagine him without his bandana.

[@VertPimpin]

One of the good ones. RIP

[@jackreads]

He's so right. Living without stimulus. I cannot live without stimulus, either chemically (caffeine, sugar) or videos

[@Trishreda]

I loved him so

[@blackbird5634]

Wallace's work is self absorbed, learned helplessness. It's convoluted, it meanders and waffles around and if you get caught up in his eddies and whirlpools you'll go down. He was smart, but happiness is a kind of wisdom, and he didn't have it.