David Miscavige's First And Only Media Interview | Ted Koppel

[@Peter-y7j1v]

The worst thing that could have happened to Scientology was the Internet.

[@GhostofJamesMadison]

Frfr

[@Vulhala]

Yep. The ability to communicate widely. The irony 😂

[@bandlehars]

It’s a great information tool for the victims though.

[@bandlehars]

@@KH-3414 It’s a good information tool, but it still will not help them find his wife or prosecute the establishment for all of their crimes against people.

[@bandlehars]

@@KH-3414 ughh….because people were said to have been held captive and unable to leave. That’s kidnapping. I don’t see anyone prosecuted for this. Or held accountable by any other means or measures.

[@lionharpmusic]

“Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” - Voltaire

[@janetmcarthur5257]

He doesn't have any wealth---or political power, ability to sentence people to his own private prison, or the ability to physically beat anyone with his own hands as punishment---that people haven't willingly given him.

[@nosuchthing8]

Jan 6

[@gr8oone007]

men can get pregnant

[@janelleabbott2227]

Lil man syndrom.....this is what David Miscavidge is suffering from. I can also see he becomes angry easily. Whydoesnt &e ask David Miscavidge where he gets his $ from? How does he live. He says over and over again I don't take any $ check with the IRS. Well then why is he a millionare?

[@fbg5678]

Love the quote.

[@ChrisMhiclochlainn]

You can easily see why David Miscavige has only done one interview. To a Scientologist he probably sounds like a strong defender of their faith, to the average viewer he sounds like an incoherent, accusatory, paranoid, question dodging politician. Thank you Aaron for uploading the entire interview for our entertainment, Miscavige’s accusations are just wild!

[@mariannerivera2720]

HECIS DISGUSTING, HE'S NOTHING BUT A CON, A SNAKE OIL SALESMEN HE IS SO FULL OF IT, SOUNDS LIKE ANOTHER CON PSYCHOPATH TRUMP!!

[@terricarroll9679]

...and arrogant, rude, and obnoxious.

[@ronilittle7028]

@@wlm4981 YES! Sounded EXACTLY like Tom Cruise! UNBELIEVABLE! Even the body language! Wow!

[@captainfancypants1877]

@@ronilittle7028 Chicken and egg...or does TC sound like him?

[@mrjohnklake]

@@terricarroll9679 I was thinking narcissistic which includes those traits

[@Uarehere]

Remember when journalists used to be skeptical of con artists rather than propping them up? We need more people like Ted Koppel in this world!

[@commonsensical9409]

@@k1_w3 Joe Bidan

[@Brainbaskit]

You're referring to tucker Carlson?; They are literally entertainment, and have used that claim to defend themselves against defamation in court, brainiac.

[@thomasluby1754]

@@Brainbaskit Not "literally" dum, dum. One of the definitions of literally is NOT "Use for emphasis". So annoying and uneducated.

[@harrycgrace4504]

Ted is a damn biased hack for the democrats.

[@MrRaulstrnad]

@@k1_w3 lots of these tech start ups are quite obviously scams but they get reported uncritically in the media these days

[@LuigiMordelAlaume]

Man, the good ol' days when news included investigative journalism.

[@thescarletgraywitch8052]

My thought exactly

[@GrowingUpInScientology]

Thank you for watching and commenting

[@wordsleuth992]

I know - that was truly fascinating. And the interviewer was brilliant… I wish I knew his reputation or had seen him before!!!

[@RMBlake007]

@@wordsleuth992 Ted Koppel is a legendary journalist...in the 80's and 90's perhaps one of the worlds best known news anchors (ABC - Dateline) 42 years, many awards for his work, in a day when journalistic integrity was everything. They don't make them like that anymore.

[@montalvoken]

Yeah!

[@Randy_Loafers]

It never ceases to amaze me how much Tom Cruise talks like Miscavige.

[@Randy_Loafers]

@Hannah Bride like clones of each other. Very creepy indeed.

[@tomschmitz261]

think, this is the man, tom cruise, who worships him, salutes him and emasculates himself for over 30 years to miscavige! who calls miscavige, the leader of his "religion" his best friend (who in reality in laughing behind his back and using him), and who seemingly does not understand that a religious leader HAS no best friend because it's improper, immoral and unethical to treat any member above other members. And i'm pretty sure most "religious leaders" do not hang out doing all kinds of non religious activities with a member like attending car races, riding motorcycles together, and so on. And i'm pretty sure most "religions" don't have "handlers" to "handle' a member by giving them access to their professional and personal life...

[@brianwalsh1401]

@Hannah Bride Both of them are narcissist.

[@Dorothysslippers]

i imagine they read these comment together and are really flattered

[@amymalski]

Omg I was thinking that too. Thought maybe it was just me.

[@ninasteil7315]

Can totally see why Miscavage no longer does interviews. He comes across as a complete nut job. I’m sure he hates that this interview is on KZbin for anyone to watch at anytime. Kind of makes me smile.

[@theloanranger2632]

Miscavige did a pretty damn good job for a first time interview that was also on live tv. You're just jealous

[@benjaminhawthorne1969]

At least he did not jump up and down on Ted's desk! 😂

[@Sanctified57]

To be honest I think he comes across very well

[@BeeLZBeeb]

He’s the kind of man who sounds good to those who are already taken in, if not by Scientology then by other systems and beliefs that use these tactics. I feel for those people because they don’t understand how easily taken in they are. He comes across as a bully and narcissist who is comfortable in the centre of his web.

[@funny3scene]

@@Sanctified57 you come across as an insane brainwashed cultist for defending him

[@rockingroby6060]

Ted Koppel is the best in the business. I've been a fan 45 years.

[@thensingsmysowell]

I’m not even sure how anyone could listen before coming to the obvious conclusion: David is nuts. It’s all in the eyes.

[@shantishanti1949]

and even thee is a little strange.

[@sandypatty19]

Tom Cruise has the same eyes

[@PatsyJay]

Glad you noted the eyes. I just wrote a comment then resumed watching and took note of his eyes..was so struck by what is there I was about to make a 2nd comment but decided to read comments to see if anyone else sees it. Glad you did and hope others see it too cuz it is really profound. ? for you..nuts or evil? You can guess my opinion.

[@thensingsmysowell]

@@PatsyJay both!

[@genevabecker8441]

I'm a secular retired therapist...when I listen to these conversations I can only conclude that the reason that Scientologists so fear therapy is because they believe that you will diagnose them, or they may have to consider the possibility that maybe they are a little crazy (that is the professional term ;) ) when, in fact, in my experience EVERYONE is a little crazy, including myself...:)

[@arghyetlol]

For a man so opposed to Psychiatry, he's the perfect candidate for an evaluation.

[@TheNinnyfee]

For people opposed to psychiatry they are awfully interested in controlling people's minds.

[@teeellecee]

Narcissistic people rarely seek out therapy. And even if they do, they are rarely self-aware enough to actually change.

[@polkadotsuzanne9306]

Hilarious

[@LerwickH]

@@teeelleceeso true

[@ky9933]

He tried to be a psychiatrist and the officials told him he didn't qualify, so like the child he perpetually was he made his OWN version of mental issue health and vilified the (actually effective) psychiatry.

[@dugongsdoitbetter]

What saved me from Scientology when I was young??? I had and have zero follow through and never finish anything I start. Super grateful for this shortcoming now.

[@JasonSmith-jr7jh]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!😂

[@solitary-sun]

Missed opportunity to leave your comment unfinished

[@TheEsotericLeftist]

Hey twin

[@neanda]

🤣 abilities some consider to be unnatural, but are actually useful

[@joshua-nf3rx]

Love it man!! Keep going 100 percent ! Ooopppsss I mean 50 percent !

[@TizerisT.]

Ted Koppel is/was a master interrogator. Such a classic gent but when he's probing you and reading you, quite intimidating.

[@owengaul3226]

@@thereturnofthemacfound the Scientologist cultist

[@nate87799]

@@thereturnofthemacit’s more of David gets off topic, evading the original question.

[@xpatzorsx]

God, you can just tell in his eyes that he wants to pitch a fit and yell or try to hit Koppel. He knows he can't, and it's throwing him off. He isn't in his controlled environment where everyone lets him do whatever he wants. He's a spoiled brat that's finally run into someone that isn't having his bullshit. It's wonderful.

[@wooshbait36]

Okay mister psychologist, didn't recognize you in KZbin comments

[@MCO18]

And he’s not given another interview since

[@thinktankcritic5267]

You are full of BS. See what in his eyes exactly? You must be psychic lol 😂

[@upfront2375]

He's under pressure.. so of course he's gonna look crazy! We've all been there, except for it wasn't on TV heheh

[@xpatzorsx]

@@upfront2375 1) Are you actually sticking up for David Miscavige?? 2) PLENTY of other people who aren't used to being on camera have been under a similar or more intense level of scrutiny on camera and haven't acted that way. It's also important to note that he's trying to promote a belief system(essentially a for-profit church) that's supposed to provide people with the ability to handle any hardship and is falling apart because of high school level critical thinking questions.

[@michellestelletos9265]

Absolute pleasure to observe a GENUINE journalist. They are extinct in this generation.

[@gombocdimensional9050]

@@mustaffa1611 wait, are you for real? you do know they've been exposed time and time and again for being fake news right? hell, if you fell their bullshit you're probably the type of person who falls for the scientology con in the first place.

[@gombocdimensional9050]

@@mustaffa1611 it's a cool concept really, but they edit out the context all the time to make people look worse then they actually are and hell weren't they apart of the whole "stolen election" shit, yeah those losers are very trustworthy...to people who are easily swayed (i.e. those qanon cunts). hell if you consider yourself, a truly intelligent skeptic who doesn't fall for every asshole who caters to you and your beliefs than you should watch timbah on toast's career deep dive on his entire career, all the good and the bad he's done in a balanced and thoughtful way. then you'll fully understand what i mean.

[@neuropsychroberts8922]

Notice how much time Koppel was given to interview one person on a given topic. TV journalism nowadays is much more formulaic & searching for some sensory driven viewings not uncovering deeper meaning on a topic. When news is profit-driven, we get schlock. Viewers are as responsible as greed journalism for where we are.

[@adamseddon2572]

Yes I know. Seems an actual genuine and fair interview

[@_5_675]

No they are not

[@lesliewells1062]

I love it how Ted Koppel is not letting David Miscavige steam roll over him no matter how hard he tries to. How many lies can one person tell per minute?

[@micahmcallister5554]

How many minutes is this video 😂

[@wallywam1]

Ted Koppel is an SP 😂

[@lesliewells1062]

Aren't we all?

[@marshaweinstein9861]

I'm tempted to say that DJT can tell more lies per minute, but this video is old, Miscaviage has had a long time to practice. Maybe they're on par.

[@GrowingUpInScientology]

Indeed!

[@michaelhughes743]

"Why didnt we think of this' - The Mafia

[@JohnOShaughnessy]

😆

[@JessicaC.]

This is back when journalists still had balls! Back when the media wasn't scared to possibly " hurt feelings " using words. I remember watching this live when I was younger. Ted was a mfn G!

[@mattdad8429]

The way David kept trying to run the interview and Ted was like "yeah, nah kid" and steamrolled over him was hilarious.

[@feelinguru-vywiththepaingu9808]

​@@mattdad8429Koppel was masterful, wasn't he. I saw this at the time.

[@cherylgarry460]

The grift. Some people will believe anything.

[@dortjuorfu478]

You lost me at 'mfn G'

[@mattdad8429]

@@dortjuorfu478 Sheeeit, she HAD me at mfn G

[@guitaoist]

“Convince me why I should be a scientologist” “Because you love yourself” Straight out of cult leader 101

[@TheNinnyfee]

Always addressing the ego and hoping that it is unchecked.

[@shellymorey1732]

Exactly

[@steve-0493]

I can help you,and u will benefit, but I benefit more off u and the others that Hear the exact same message, regardless of the way the 'individual ' hears!!at the end of the fucking cycle/season/day,I will benefit off the stepping stones aka..PEOPLE.. notice that whoever speaks the religion, whoever has this power,accumulates more power,more money,now MORE POWER.. Answer:every single fucking 'religion ' conceived...dont ever come at me about bad and hell,cause while living, I have experienced hell,at my own fault,an with other folks on MY journey..and I still acknowledge that somewhere out there-SOMEONE HAS IT BETTER THAN YOU!!AAAANNNNNDDD SOMONE HAS IT WORSE THAN YOU!! ALWAYS REMEMBER THIS,IF U HATE UR LIFE,OR LOVE IT LOL..ALWAYS...SOME ARE BETTER OFF,SOME ARE WORSE OFF!! Find this balance, accept/respect YOUR own Thread!!threads are different, despite this same 'look'...that's us..threads...some feel weak enough to sacrifice family,money,love,children,ANYTHING to feel what??Important???EARTH IS THE ONLY PLACE THAT U WILL BE IMPORTANT (in ur head)COMPARED TO THE ENDLESS.....VASTNESS....OF SPACE.....smile and be insignificant!!!😂🤷‍♂️✌️😑🍻💯🤔🙃

[@TheOneAndOnlyZelenkaGuru]

Same as christianity... creepy

[@lizmiller3325]

He is the most dangerous cult leader I have ever seen. And trust me I have seen a few. The fact that he is still in control is sickening. I think he murdered the leader. He is a sick sick man

[@kelleymcbride4633]

It's clear why this cult leader stopped doing interviews. You can hear the lawyers pulling thier hair out listening to him spew this nonsense. This is a man who is used to being agreed with 100% of the time. Thanks for the upload!

[@thescarletgraywitch8052]

Consummate Yes man for sure!!

[@GrowingUpInScientology]

Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@micahmcallister5554]

That’s a good point. He exists In his own bubble.

[@lisanewman5378]

@@LadyPamela63 While I definitely hope not, I don't believe Shelly is still alive.

[@wordsleuth992]

@@lisanewman5378 I don’t either. They may have someone speaking for her, until I see her in person I’m afraid she is not with us.

[@smokinbones1618]

That look in his eyes is haunting. Even when he smiles, I want to look away.

[@ChristianNewsandInterviews]

Ted Koppel retained control of the interview. He was a master of interviews.

[@ChristianNewsandInterviews]

P.S. - WHERE is Shelley Miscavige?

[@TDOLLA]

haha Ted Koppel was the real deal. You can really tell David Miscavige is a man used to having the final word and used to being in charge. You can almost see flames in his eyes anytime Ted cut him off or pushed back.

[@roxieolemeda3196]

​@@TDOLLAHe's a little bully I guess he's assaulted people physically 😮

[@stephanie-atarahrose.8149]

Testosterone levels are plummeting nowadays. Relates to communication.

[@anastasiarose9003]

I noticed he squeezed his hands together a few times to maintain control.

[@09rja]

This guy needs to run for something: he's mastered the art of talking forever and not saying anything.

[@bkohler89]

That's called a politician bro

[@Pretermit_Sound]

@@bkohler89 which is why the OP said he should run for something. Everybody knows that’s called a politician 🫤

[@trickortrump3292]

@@bkohler89 That was the point of the comment.

[@debrabader806]

Former Scientologists, who decided to leave, the church, said that David was a sociopath. He actually tortured some people by beating him physically and psychologically. This should be outlawed. In addition to the above claims, another one of the Scientologists that wanted to leave said “ You cannot be poor and be a Scientologist”. Now that’s a real red flag right there Debra Bader.

[@nedtaylor1983]

Exactly what interests liberals. Why they vote Democrat.

[@VerdadTruth]

Mr. Koppel gave David the biggest ass whooping without having to move a finger or even get loud. True master of his craft.

[@terryheady]

The way in which Ted handled the question about the Van Allen Belt when Miscaviage tried to turn it around was masterful. The idiot thought that he could get out of it by saying that other religions have implausable beliefs--but than he refused to admit to even knowing what Hubbard was talking about. Everyone now knows he was lying, he was very familiar with Hubbard's "factual" claims, but knew he could not admit that this is what Hubbard really believed. There is good reason why DM has never given another interview.

[@michaelkepesky5635]

the eyes don't lie!! His eyes are filled with Contempt and Rage!!

[@kaechan9590]

He's a well known abuser

[@billj4525]

According to people in the church he beats up other members and snaps on people if they have disagreements. This is speculation and what others have said.. I have no idea if it's true or not.

[@mayscough72]

For me as a Brit these old school American news presenters and journalists were untouchable

[@cookiesnruntz]

How they are introduced after commercial is nostalgic

[@qprfan1977]

@@cookiesnruntz uupiii😊ppppipp😊ipi😊ppuj. U have have to to get get back back from i

[@ethanwashoe5868]

That interviewer is also British born but grew up in america

[@TaylorTrask]

Sadly, we no longer produce real journalists.

[@JamesC1981]

@@ethanwashoe5868 yes i was gonna say also

[@laurarominger2073]

Man I wish there was a Ted Koppel today. He was the best.

[@GrowingUpInScientology]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@jackieblue9536]

He died???

[@cotati76]

@@jackieblue9536 he’s still alive but he retired ages ago.

[@carissalamkahouan699]

@@cotati76 actually he did a piece talking with Trump supporters pretty recently

[@cotati76]

@@carissalamkahouan699 he did? I’ll have to find it and watch it. I haven’t seen him in ages.

[@1trumantucker1]

The ability to say so much without actually saying a thing is a remarkable talent...

[@edpoe1108]

Yeah, I've always had a little bit of respect for individuals that are able to to that and remain composed and confident. I don't like them or what they're doing, but it is impressive on some level.

[@alainlalonde]

Yeah, Ted really didn't let him finish most points. I was interested, but he kept interrupting and steering it. "Well get back to that in a moment", but he mostly doesn't... weird.. Seems pretty full of himself to be honest.

[@thorinbane]

J Peterson agrees

[@MrMiar94]

@@alainlalondewhat points? 😂😂😂

[@giantfatberg]

⁠​⁠@@MrMiar94I think @alainlalond is a Scientologist

[@freethinker13]

It’s so crazy how David’s wife has been missing for 17 years and no one cares👀 David also hiding out. I don’t know how Scientology is still active.

[@t.h.337]

They are active because of $. Paying the law off. Selling absolute bullshit to people at a high price so that they can. $ really is the root of all evil.

[@japonte173]

they’re just insanely secretive and reclusive. people report shelley missing and LAPD investigates and says she isn’t missing, so unless scientology controls the entirety of the LAPD i think it’s more logical to assume they have their own insane reclusive church thing going on and she never leaves wherever she is.

[@MegaasAlexandros]

She's not missing, she's been sighted and spoken to.

[@berzerkfury1459]

​@@japonte173or high ranking officers are members??

[@mrsx7944]

​@@japonte173LAPD said they spoke to her and she's fine. People need to let it go.

[@angela1984a]

"It never ceases to amaze me how much Tom Cruise talks like Miscavige." I approve this message.

[@mr.niceguy1498]

It’s like they are twins!

[@CarlaLou-ov8yc]

I’m sure you do approve

[@angela1984a]

@@CarlaLou-ov8yc And how about you "CarlaLou"?... Are you a troll/bot paid for by the Cult and Complete and Utter Delusion that is 'scientology'?...

[@bvdsovereign1553]

Tom imitates him or he toms🤔

[@Charles-in3zt]

In the motion picture industry it is widely known Tom Cruise is of very poor intelligence.

[@astreaward6651]

David Miscavige: "Scientology cured my asthma!" Also David Miscavige: Wheezing throughout the entire interview.

[@JudgementalOwl]

I noticed that early on with him also.

[@marie_h1104]

Noticed that as well.

[@roxieolemeda3196]

I know right 👉 😁

[@shantishanti1949]

no wheezing heard by me - get your ears checked !

[@astreaward6651]

@@shantishanti1949 On your authority alone? LOL Okay, boomer.

[@mutestingray]

The brilliant thing Ted did was to keep him talking. The more he talks, the more insane Dave sounds.

[@GrowingUpInScientology]

💯💯

[@matilda4406]

good point. Let them talk

[@gailheard1524]

Dave is a delusional nut.

[@marcusmaher-triskellionfil5158]

The bigger the hole..

[@feelinguru-vywiththepaingu9808]

​@@marcusmaher-triskellionfil5158with a huge shovel to dig a hole.

[@TinkerBellaMama]

Omg the sound of the Nightline starting took me back about 25 years instantly

[@johnsjohnson448]

Mr. Koppel was brutally intelligent and truly terrific.

[@alfredeneuman6966]

Driving in his Mercury arriving at his spaceship, L Ron Hubbard took off for Mars, Starburst, reaching the Milky Way ... he then left the supermarket aisle and took the candy bars home with him and wrote a phantasmagorical story.

[@janetmcarthur5257]

Nice interview. I would have liked to see him interview groups that are infinitely worse than the Church of Scientology, such as the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry.

[@thomkatt3385]

and remarkably patient.

[@suzanneblaylock9598]

And...? Yes ??

[@alwayswatching1650]

@@janetmcarthur5257 infinitely worse in what way? Not arguing - genuinely curious.🙂🤔

[@c.s.christopher5801]

I’m amazed how similar David’s mannerisms is to Tom Cruise’s. It’s like Tom admired this man so much and spent so much time with him, he adopted his whole shtick.

[@aronrosas4191]

They actually believe their doppelgangers of each other, there's a bizarre practice in scientology where members have "twins".

[@itsrightbehindyou]

Bingo. This is exactly what I felt - Tom Cruise in a other body and a different face, basically.

[@VoiceAndPianoByChristaFord]

It is called twinning and it is directly from mk ultra trauma based mind control with also includes Satanic Ritual Abuse! See Jessie Czebotar ​@@aronrosas4191

[@jamiemccornack5770]

I thought the exact same thing before coming across this comment, so I had to weigh in.. it's actually scary. And I actually like Tom cruise, but I'm also aware that he's a nutball.. brainwashed by the CULT of scientology

[@sexobscura]

that's the power of love

[@alexkasper5029]

oh man, ted koppel DESTROYED him with such a calm rational demeanor that just highlighted the mounting defensive paranoia david miscavige was completely unable to hide. i would LOVE for the behavior panel to analyze this interview! they always appreciate an interviewer who is calm, unshakable, and relentless with hard questions. fantastic!

[@thescarletgraywitch8052]

What is the behavior panel? What am I missing!? As someone with a Master's in behavioral psych that sounds right up my alley.

[@alison2649]

And I appreciate that Mr Koopel did his homework before this interview

[@kmartens8872]

@@thescarletgraywitch8052 it’s a you tube channel with 4 body language experts. They analyze different peoples interviews and reactions. It is really good! I highly recommend! Channel is called The Behaviour Panel

[@alexkasper5029]

@@thescarletgraywitch8052 ooooh they are a great youtube channel! their channel is The Behavior Panel and they are 4 behavior experts who do work for police interrogations and other areas of behavior analysis! they look at body language and statement analysis mostly and it is fascinating! I highly recommend! :)

[@alexkasper5029]

@@alison2649 seriously! he read the books and everything!

[@danielgloverpiano7693]

I used to watch Nightline every night. Now I remember why. Ted Koppel is the best of the best. We need that level of journalism again. He cuts through the BS and gets to the point. This interview just reminds me why all cults are the same. The deeper you dig, the more crazy it is. If people knew from the outset the crazy train they were jumping on, I’m sure they’d jump off immediately. 😮😮😮😮

[@mitersangeeta2576]

No wonder that was David’s only interview!!! Dude was owned by the legend himself, cool 😎 Ted Koppel!!

[@alison2649]

Ted really did his homework! Most interviewers don’t

[@paulcolburn3855]

David was not prepared to deal with an interviewer so intelligent and knowledgeable of his "church." Ted did his homework AND he was rational and lucid. At the very beginning, Ted saying that he was quite happy with his life, his family, his job, what could the church POSSIBLY have to offer him, and David never really had a concrete answer for him. I have my own issues with psychology and psychiatrists in general. But I am not going to throw them all under the bus because psychology was used as a tool to convince German people the good that could be achieved with the Holocaust.

[@CoolGobyFish]

@@paulcolburn3855 he told him that scientology would make him more productive. it's pretty good answer. but generally, it's pointless trying to get a real answer from a psychopath

[@paulcolburn3855]

@@CoolGobyFish yeah I got that part "more productive." But that is an entirely "subjective" answer on what was entirely "objective" reporting. It doesn't really mean anything. I am sure that is the same answer you would get from John Travolta and Tom Cruise, more "productive."

[@CoolGobyFish]

@@paulcolburn3855 well. productivity can be measured. so it's an objective answer. not that I support this cult leader, but he has a pretty good answer for everything (as most psychopath in power)

[@Iamtierrahogan]

The man talks in circles. He answers questions with questions and word salad analogies.

[@ianmangham4570]

Kamala Harris has studied dave for decades.

[@Eyes_dont_Lie]

U cant deny he gives irs the finger everyyyyy year though 😂

[@Frip36]

He was actually articulate and coherent. Whether it was all factual I don't know. But he defended his church about as well as the pope could defend his.

[@ArtsyTartsy0]

@Frip36 I absolutely disagree with you! Are we watching the same interview? P.S. And uh....no! It was certainly NOT all factual!!!!

[@jmpayne333]

He’d be a great politician.

[@speakingofcouragepodcast8437]

Anyone else notice how eerily similar his communication style is to Tom Cruise? Eye contact, aggressive posture, etc. they definitely train these people

[@daakrolb]

Good point. CULT-Y.

[@aujuliawod]

I thought the same thing! Just like Tom Cruise!

[@DamienDrake]

That was one of the most disturbing things about this interview.

[@jamesmclennan666]

Spot on

[@shellybuttrum8869]

I can't believe how similar TC and DM mannerisms are.

[@jjbeersydney]

For a guy who says “let me tell you” an unbearable number of times, he tells us curiously little … 🙄

[@OutWestRedDirt]

Esp about his wife last 17 years.

[@charlottewebster4233]

"And by the way" is another. Hear a lot of "Let me tell you / and by the way / you have to remember" from scientologists past and present.

[@mandywood3327]

...and you have to understand...

[@daveowens271]

Ted Koppel totally owned Miscavige. This is what happens when the guy who is USED to being the smartest guy in the room, actually has a discussion with THE SMARTEST GUY IN THE ROOM!

[@Girlhead]

He did!! I love it when David said Scientology had been voted the Community Outreach Group of the Year and Ted doesn't miss a beat.. "By Whom?"

[@StarCityAudits]

No, he did not.

[@Girlhead]

@@StarCityAudits Hey- how's the Sea Org these days David?

[@joeyholly5259]

Correction: the guy who THINKS he's the smartest guy in the room, because he will only allow rooms to be filled with sycophants. This interview was amazing and Ted Koppel is my new hero :)

[@Syv_]

@@StarCityAudits Found the scientologist!

[@yellowblanka6058]

30 years after this damning feature, and not only have there been no investigations/arrests, but Scientology is still allowed to operate in the United States. Mind boggling.

[@kareem8533]

The question is: How can Biden still be "operating".

[@tomschmitz261]

money talks and bullshit walks... they have bribed and have their fingers in the i.r.s., various police forces (lapd), and other authorities and politicians...add in our WAY OVERBOARD freedom of religion amendment and there you go!

[@tomschmitz261]

@@happydayz7857 true... unfortunately, in this country, "freedom of religion" seemingly is more important than anything even illegality!

[@2shel171]

...as a non-profit....tax free corporation

[@goodmorningbeautifulhumans1638]

Follow the money?

[@jojowynne233]

Ted Koppel is a great interviewer who doesn’t back down. DM came off like a creepy deflector of questions with paranoia. Thanks so much for sharing this.

[@johnwattdotca]

You must be one of those Americans who has problems reading and listening, and you blame the words and the speaker. You weren't around to see Ted Koppel as a Washington propagandist, when it was called "psycho-babble" and "baffle-gab". Look at Ted, bags under bags under his eyes.

[@jojowynne233]

@@johnwattdotca definitely not even American. I have no interest in your politics or propaganda. TK didn’t back down in this interview and that’s all I was commenting on. Nothing else I haven’t seen.

[@johnwattdotca]

@@jojowynne233 It looks like you have no interest at all except for your own, despite how misguided, or limited, it is. It's best to live for ordinary reality because it doesn't go away.

[@jojowynne233]

@@johnwattdotca I’ve not been nasty to you in the comments like you just were to me. So I looked up your previous comments on this channel and to me, it looks like you are a CoS member. I don’t know why you bother to watch the channel because you disagree with everything.

[@johnwattdotca]

@@jojowynne233 What you call nasty must be different from me. I don't know what a "CoS member" is. So you're using this spy technology to "search" me. What a waste of time and electrical energy. As far as doing comments for videos I see as racist and brain-washing, someone has to try and create a balance in there.

[@kalebarancelovic]

If this guy handed me a glass of water to drink, I wouldn't drink it.

[@lahih]

bill cosby joined the chat

[@Oturtlegirl51]

Mr. Koppel teaches a master class on interviewing here. Perfection.

[@johnwattdotca]

If you want to be a Washington bully on television and tell the American people what to think, this is a major American media master class. Ted has bags under bags under his eyes, and that wig!

[@sinatra222]

@@johnwattdotca found the Scientologist 🤣

[@johnwattdotca]

@@sinatra222 I see you don't like to think at all. Anything else totally stupid to say?

[@namename4012]

@@johnwattdotca Koppel called out a bully, which Miscavige clearly was then, and still is now. And Koppel was masterful in not letting that little dictator pull any crap. BTW: This episode won an Emmy award.

[@johnwattdotca]

@@namename4012 I'm not surprised the episode won an Emmy, intended to validate the content. You are still wrong, and for someone who can type as an intelligent person I'm surprised you want to keep spouting off lies. Koppel was over-bearing and directive, asking questions but cutting off answers. Miscavige was explanatory, probably too much for the average American, while he was calm and always reasonable. I stress, and you should understand, Scientology isn't a religion or a cult. It's about Science, and yes, it's expensive. What is the life problem you have that makes you such a hater?

[@christid.8912]

I love how he sings the praises of "communication improvement" in Scientology, then proceeds to be one of the worst communicators I have ever witnessed.

[@HighVibes4All]

Ted Koppel gave a masterclass on the correct way to interview someone.

[@thomasluby1754]

I don't know anything about a Masterclass but he did a good job. Very calm and relaxed while Miscavige was intense and anxious.

[@ytuser_3122]

@@thomasluby1754I didn’t even know that, Miscavige acts like his BFF Tom Cruise in that 2000s interview he did with Matt Lauer where he hates on Brooke Shields

[@richardsantanna5398]

He did a horrible job. He's wouldn't stop interrupting and let David finish a sentence.

[@rossginn1171]

He sure did!!

[@rossginn1171]

@@richardsantanna5398 I just happened to read your message within the first 15 minutes of this interview and if you think interrupting someone in an interview maybe a handful of times over a 60 minute timeframe is out of line,,,well that’s pretty normal. To be clear I could care less one way or the other regarding Scientology and pretty much all religions.

[@GamesCooky]

Man, this guy really wants to sell me this car.

[@mikeseal2266]

I can really see why him and Tom Cruise get along so well. They’re like smug maniacal twins.

[@thenightporter]

I can't stand Tom Cruise. That 💩 he said about Brooke Shields was reprehensible. What an 🍑

[@snorttroll4379]

What did he say?

[@Frip36]

They are not smug. They are the opposite of smug. People like to call people smug as a way around calling them an asshole.

[@woodyforest7308]

Boyfriend's

[@meghanmisaliar]

​@@thenightporterhe was right tho

[@allisonod8575]

ted Koppel correcting Davey boy everytime he calls a grown woman a girl is the energy I want to bring to every work meeting

[@taratee]

@@charleschristianson2730 Pretty easy. Calling grown women girls (suggesting she's a child still) is just plain disrespectful

[@Rick_Cleland]

In Northern Ireland we call men and women "Guys" and "Girls" all the time, regardless of age.

[@taratee]

@@charleschristianson2730 lol okay 👍 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@taratee]

@@charleschristianson2730 a woman is a woman when she becomes an adult. Your opinion is 🗑️

[@Trenchant468]

@@charleschristianson2730 So…despite women of all ages objecting to the diminutive label “girl”, you persist, and believe it’s flattering because you apply it to women whose looks haven’t yet faded at the ripe old age of 30! Thanks for the trip back to the 1950’s.

[@jackklenk4352]

“I’m perfectly happy. What can Scientology do for me?” “It isn’t for you then.” Seems legit.

[@Malthus]

Hands down the best "gotcha" moment in the interview. Just like any other cult, and above anything else, Scientology prays on people's weaknesses.

[@evanstein3011]

But 48:02 "This is the right religion for anybody." Lol

[@joesmith-em2cd]

@@evanstein3011😂😂😂😂

[@youtbe999]

In the case of a wealthy celebrity ted Koppel, the real question becomes: Don't ask what scientology can do for Koppel, ask what Koppel can do for scientology.

[@karenleemallonee684]

😂

[@aarontimberlake]

Thanks!

[@GrowingUpInScientology]

Thank you!

[@ModernSunlight]

Miscavige did a great job of displaying the need for quality mental health....wow.

[@Th3Downz]

Don't give this little goblin any credit. Any humanity he shows is just an act. He doesn't give a shit about you or anyone else... he wouldn't run a cult that strips people of their money promising answers otherwise

[@loyisog4795]

Excuse me??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Green.heron24]

Why do they call themselves a church when they don't believe in God. It's a successful cult which is scary. I worked for a bookstore years ago and remember LRon Hubbards's bks in the science fiction section. It is a testimony to the ignorance of many people that a scifi writer would become a rich cult leader.

[@genevabecker8441]

LOL

[@genevabecker8441]

@@Green.heron24 They call themselves a church so they won't have to pay taxes...

[@ediemarie13]

I had never had the pleasure of seeing this interview before, and I now have a much deeper respect for the journalism integrity of Mr. Koppel. His cool, calm demeanor is a stark contrast with Miscavige's flustered answers.

[@le_th_]

This was once the norm and, since I was a child raised during the time when this level of journalism was the norm, I had forgotten how important (and frankly, impressive) it was to strengthen the fabric of society.

[@theloanranger2632]

Koppelv and this show do not have integrity. They were going to run the hit pieces after interviewing Miscaviage but Miscaviage demanded they play first so he can respond. This show was sued for running a story about a defect causing cars to explode when the show actually rigged cars with fireworks and intentionally made them explode

[@johnwattdotca]

Edie Marie Young: I will take your comment at face value. Look at Ted Koppel, a media talking head. He's got bags under bags under his eyes, and look at that wig. He doesn't look like a happy camper. The other man looks healthy and talks quickly. That's the problem you have with him, he talks fast. You must be one of those Americans who has problems reading and blames the words.

[@johnwattdotca]

@@le_th_ Are you talking about the good old days of the Kennedy assassination, the magic bullet, and everything else as cover-ups? It took a civilian with a camera who found his family movie a year later, the Zapruder film, that changed their "history" and "analytic reporting".

[@kathyrule2580]

@@johnwattdotca was s

[@JASPER0007]

He's got more Tom Cruise mannerisms than Tom Cruise.

[@Francis-xl2gu]

They both come out the same mould

[@Abrookesong]

Came here to say this! They look soo much alike

[@toph8298]

More like Tom Cruise has adopted David Miscavige mannerisms

[@stefanbernhard2710]

Same haircut, same impoverished intellect.

[@rayannaandrade6337]

I think they are lovers

[@stateofkansass]

He is right about one thing. "Media is controversy" I'll give him that. Learned long ago not to listen to them.

[@thomasmaner5652]

I am 30 minutes in and I can already see why Dave does not do interviews with the media anymore. This is a train wreck.

[@jamoin4310]

Brah he was 28 back then and doing his first Tv interview he’s a good talker.

[@GrowingUpInScientology]

💯💯

[@thomasmaner5652]

@@jamoin4310 at one point he contracted himself! Anyone watching back then would have spotted it.

[@MrDavital1]

He’s actually very good. Anyone who can’t see that is insane .

[@rotem1437]

@@MrDavital1 Yup..he is good, this is how he got to the top...and he is a psychopath

[@GetOutsideYourself]

Koppel's Emmy came as a result of his incredible ability to keep calm in the face of this madman's insane ramblings.

[@SUNSHINE-t-m]

and legend says Miscavige got a replica because he claims Ted only got it because of how good a job he did explaining himself. lmao

[@sandralybrand9425]

Well deserved too!

[@davidfrey5654]

Because he wasn't the one getting attacked. When you're not getting attacked, it's not hard to stay calm.

[@thinktankcritic5267]

What ramblings you gaslighter? I heard a very coherent man defend his beliefs - whatever they are, regardless of u agreeing or not. Have you even heard a real rambler? Calling an eloquent speaker a madman just shows how inept you are

[@mmmcoffeetogo]

I love how David Miscavige struggles through the first question by rambling about how Scientology has made breakthroughs in communication. 😂 The irony is not lost on me.

[@toddmastrianna1780]

This tool communicates less effectively than a street urchin in Atlantic City

[@kridler112]

Wish we had more interviewers like this these days

[@JeffinTD]

Ted Koppel did a really excellent job. I really feel a free press and unbiased investigative journalism is critical for any free country or democracy, and I worry about the decline of newspapers and journalism in favor of click-bait and partisanship.

[@feelinguru-vywiththepaingu9808]

100%!!!

[@charliebrownie4158]

You don't need to worry there's no such thing.

[@zapkvr]

No one cares about your feelings.

[@Tyrfingr]

Goes hand in hand with the drop in reading comprehension. Cellphones and pads have murdered that part of it more effectively than any poor schooling ever could.

[@loonaya]

What is so unbiased here? It's very biased. During the whole interview he is trying to impose his opinion about something he obviously doesn't know much about instead of having a conversation. Unbiased is not opposing somebody but letting someone tell you their view and then let you and your audience decide for themselves. This interview was an attack from the beginning. And before somebody attacks me that I am insulted scientologist... No. I don't even know of there is a church in my country

[@ilikebeingsmart]

I have always wanted to see this entire interview. For me, this has been the holy grail of Scientology interviews/media coverage. Thank you for posting this!

[@alt_wespe]

It certainly is the best piece together with Jason Beghe's interview with Mark Bunker

[@ilikebeingsmart]

@@alt_wespe That one is also a classic!

[@chalinofalcone871]

"Of interest, furthermore, is the fact that on Monte Circeo itself stand the ruins of a Roman temple supposed to have been dedicated to Circe, the sorceress who not only transformed Odysseus' men into swine but also introduced the great voyager himself to the cavernous entrance to the Land of the Dead." [The Masks of God: Primitive Mythology, Joseph Campbell, 1991, Part 4: "..."]

[@yourkiwimate]

his wife is a lucky lady

[@Roscoe.P.Coldchain]

Why the holy grail?

[@angelshrader263]

Ted Koppel has such amazing restraint and professionalism with one of the most frustrating and ridiculous characters ever. Thanks for posting Aaron!

[@matilda4406]

yes, it's not easy to talk with such a personality. He is a sophisticated liar

[@johnwattdotca]

@@matilda4406 You sound jealous. I'm sorry you know sophisticated liars in your life, American.

[@matilda4406]

@@johnwattdotca the Bible says that all men are liars

[@johnwattdotca]

@@matilda4406 There are no white-skinned people in the Holy Bible. How does that work for you?

[@matilda4406]

@@johnwattdotca well the way it works for me is this. Since we all have some amount of melanin in our skin, therefore none of us human beings are white. We are all a shade of melanin.

[@Rita-nx6fg]

Ted Koppel has Miscavige on the run.

[@lulukazhila6309]

This is such a great reminder of what great journalism used to look like. The time when journalists would challenge their guests whilst wittingly roasting them like this 🤣

[@DustinRodriguez1_0]

And also have on a guest that society opposes and detests without getting accused of 'giving them a platform' and inherently supporting them. That scares a lot of interviewers out of being willing to have those sorts of people on to be challenged.

[@rebeccaduboise285]

Good times. Miss um

[@paulcolburn3855]

Many (almost all) of journalists who are in the business today got their jobs because #1) they are great looking AND #2) their parents were rich enough that they could afford unpaid internships in the business until they got their first shot. That is it. Looks and money. What journalism does NOT require today (something that Ted Kopel possessed) is intelligence and quick thinking. Ted was able to respond (in turn) to each of David's points. There pretty much isn't a journalist working today that could do that without following a perfectly worded script. They can't think like that because they can't think. In 2002, Katie Couric interviewed Ann Coulter. All Katie could do is ask gotcha questions from a script and when Ann responded (in turn) Katie would dismiss all of Ann's rebuttals with the comment "well I am conducting the interview and I will ask the questions." Katie could never match wits with Ann Coulter (that could never happen) BUT she got her position in the media because of her looks and connections. She can't do any investigative anything, but she made the big bucks. Journalists and reporters, they do not want to be challenged on their own shows. To be challenged might expose the fact either A) they don't know anything or B) they can't think or possibly C) they don't know anything AND they can't think. Those are not pre-requisites' for an industry where the people working in it are focused on looks and money.

[@TuckFrump-r9h]

The journalists who can do this still exist. They just don't have the platforms they once had because media companies have been allowed to conglomerate to ridiculous levels. Serious journalism is not what advertisers want to sponsor. End of story.

[@clarecatherine1488]

@@TuckFrump-r9h Precisely put.

[@MugRuith]

This guy apparently never heard of childhood asthma. I had asthma as a child, never spoke to a Scientologist or went to their church, and now as an adult I don't have asthma. I guess staying away from Scientology cured me.

[@imjoeimjoe]

Good for you

[@fredthomas4916]

Mental illness and Scientology l how are we letting this happen it’s worse-than a concentration camp American technology where are you

[@fredthomas4916]

Diabetes is not real Iam living with people with mental illness you are a criminal org they all will never forget this guy

[@miata350]

It is truly ironic how a "science-based" religion ignores actual medical science.

[@Daydreamer-ok6jj]

😂

[@joelfernandez536]

Ted Koppel was an absolute boss here

[@CarlPanzram-pt6qu]

Keep your mouth shut

[@jaaxxone]

Decades after this expose came out and still not one politician or gov't body has done jack s**t. At the minimum their tax exempt status should be rescinded. And in an ideal scenario there would be jail time.

[@Benjamin-zp5ds]

I'm sure higher-ups are getting paid. There's no other reason for them not to rescind their tax exemption.

[@RyanAustinDean]

This is how the media should confront ALL corrupt authorities, whether political, corporate, academic, or religious - right, left, and center.

[@JohnSmith-yd5wq]

Well facts don't matter to many. People like to be pandered and lied too.

[@cjdayne3033]

They absolutely do it to the right, if they would do it to the left with the same energy this country would be in a much better place

[@davidhull2426]

Breed? Avarice / feudalism....

[@barbarakauppi9915]

That's supposed to be their very function, their only "raison d'etre", the very key to sustainable democracy, truth, and freedom everywhere. They've all completely sold out now, petty traitors to their own realm.

[@isitoveryet9525]

@@cjdayne3033 they only do it to someone on the left, if that person dares to go against the narrative….

[@adamortiz1414]

Miscavige is frightening. He and Tom Cruise have a similar quietly rumbling, undercurrent of unhinged narcissism just under the surface

[@thinktankcritic5267]

And what are you .. ? A psychiatrist? A mind reader or a shaman?

[@matshagstrom9839]

I think both Tom and

[@joeanthony7759]

@@thinktankcritic5267Don’t need to be any of those to see that.

[@mannutdutd]

@@thinktankcritic5267people are learning to spot this behaviour, it’s becoming very obvious and transparent… a bit like the reason you’re irritated by it.

[@thinktankcritic5267]

Now everything has a label on it! Every nuance of behavior every twitch of the eye or eyebrow can be construed as something devious, pathological and falling under a label category .. labeled ..! ? Crazy world

[@mikeyg8568]

I've met people like him throughout my life. Fast-talking obfuscators that refuse to talk about one particular thing, instead using any type of misdirection they can. He talks fast, he moves onto irrelevant topics, he's accusing everybody of coming after them, it's a fuckin joke

[@Mayelito7]

Is Ben Shapiro a Scientologist? 😂😂😂 (I know he’s not, but he also uses a lot of the same tactics)..

[@Patricialuna8899]

It’s called Gaslighting. David Miscavage is an evil con man. Lie after lie.

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

@@Mayelito7 Pil pulling is what Ben does.

[@jonathanse8977]

@@Mayelito7 Well they both push authortian, cult behavior. Both are painfully pious while clearly being b.s artists.

[@wedge1977]

Plain and simple, Miscavige is a textbook narcissist. Every one of us should run away from anyone who talks and behaves like this. Hang around, and you'll definitely get hurt.

[@ghostpuppolter3207]

I like how David was talking about how upset he was that a guy wanted scientologists to get kidnapped and he believes that would be an awful thing to do to a person, to hold them against their will for religious reasons. Where is Shelly, David?

[@manueladarazsdi9675]

This highlights the dangers of giving your mind over to others. It reminds me of how important critical thinking really is.

[@ninamartinez5171]

Amen to that look around us today 🙏

[@FactStorm]

Yet the vast majority of people remain religious.

[@timcasady4750]

@@FactStorm What is the difference between religion and cults ? Answer : 100 years

[@angelozachos8777]

@@FactStorm How about believing that a 🦠GERM 🦠 is going to end all of mankind , simply because the tv people say so ? What do you make of all these new ‘END OF THE WORLD’ eschatological statements proliferating in our society today ? •CLIMATE CHANGE WILL END US ! • TRUMP SUPPORTERS WILL END US ! •GERMS FROM CHINA WILL END US ! Are not these eschatologies a bit religious in tone too ? Seems that the GOD HOLE in our head is not a mind-virus but , rather , some kind of evolutionary FEATURE that every human seems prone to 🤷‍♂️

[@cherylwoodward]

Looks familiar, doesn’t it?

[@Rykiz_Vidz]

David Miscavige looks just like almost any super villain CEO from movies or videogames.

[@rossl5908]

It's the hair

[@ediewall6360]

LOL

[@eduardonava1291]

Watchmen comes to mind

[@MCO18]

“You know, I’m something of a Scientologist myself”

[@CPiz321]

@@eduardonava1291 He could play Adrian Veidt quite well

[@JonnM]

This guy is absolutely nuts. There is no lie too great that this Miscavige won’t spout.

[@mrsx7944]

Sounds like Biden. Only coherent.

[@mrsx7944]

Bidens twin

[@zeldahopper]

I have low-key anxiety just listening to him gaslight. Total maniac.

[@mrsx7944]

Then stop listening.

[@mrsx7944]

He sounds like every single politician Ever. A lot of words, not really saying much, never answering a question in a direct manner, slightly condescending, touch of arrogance, etc etc.

[@Jedi_Mind_]

😅😂🤣 Make it plain brother minister !!

[@luc00144]

​@@mrsx7944hahaha dude youre responding to everybodies comments defensing Scientology. Zealot

[@mrsx7944]

@@luc00144 I'm a woman. And that's my business. And I'm neither a zealot OR a scientologist , Detective!

[@jamesanderson6351]

Amazing interview by a Ted Koppel. I believe Ted had the right personality for this task. Never allowed feelings or emotions dictate this interview. Classic example of being outsmarted.

[@chickenmonger123]

Look at his eyes. You rarely see insanity in such a passive and lucid manner. Yet you can tell it’s lurking in there. Ready to flare into terrible clarity, when that spirit gets tired of riding it’s beast of burden at a trot.

[@Amalekites]

Its* beast..

[@Localrobloxian131]

Beautifully said

[@KCS-01]

Someone passed their English lit with flying colours huh hahah

[@Johnny_Thunder]

He is somewhat charming and affable but there is something sinister lurking there

[@lampad4549]

​@@Johnny_Thunderthats only cause you know what scientology is and you know what a piece of shit he is

[@lostangeles86]

1/2 an hour in and I understand why this was his first and last interview.

[@jayfusion555]

Take the money out of it, and then see how it goes.

[@dancingappaloosa8926]

Ted Koppel is such a brilliant interviewer!

[@littleflower23]

Brilliant is the perfect descriptor of Ted Koppel...flawless.

[@zoer7338]

​​@@littleflower23l used to have a crush on him. My husband said (very surprised) "but he's so cerebral!" Mmm hmm... ❤

[@r.g.9610]

Ted Koppel is one of the greats of journalism for a reason.

[@daixer3156]

Just "A" reason?

[@Ohm521]

We need more like him now!

[@spencerwarren9219]

If only Ted could see journalism today.

[@ushireborn]

​@@spencerwarren9219 you know he's still alive, right?

[@robinlundenius7822]

After finding out facts about this person and the sick things he does and have done, listening to him now, he comes of as an absolute sociopath 😮

[@brandonius78]

Damn, I think he missed his calling. He would’ve killed it as a used car salesman! 😂

[@robdre1977]

Or a sleazy defense attorney

[@victorfergn]

he's earned way more money by doing this

[@brandonius78]

@@victorfergn yep yep, I totally get that. It was more of a joke about how ruthless car salesman can be & he’s just unrelenting like them… 👍

[@mrsx7944]

​@@brandonius78he sounds like a politician.

[@maxsmith695]

He likely makes 1000 times more.

[@bluevol1976]

Ted Koppel and Forrest Sawyer were a great team. Such good journalism. My heart breaks for the lady who had terminal cancer.

[@y2james2803]

But your heart doesn't break for children forced on anti depressants and other drugs that cause male youth to grow breasts, lactate and are choked by their psychologist...? The thing I noticed about the anti cos movement is they are so willing to turn a blind eye to the world's problems and real tyranny... They promote psychiatry, which by proxy is them endorsing eugenics, rascism, religious bigotry and anti evolutionary mind set. I had a anti cause pro psych guy claim that the Nazis didn't practice eugenics yet their are papers wirtten by Nazis on the subject and video of them going on excursion, measuring faces and bone structure. I think the anti cause movement itself work at a lower tone, they have a lack of proper analytical skills which cause them to spend hours making illigetimate arguments, postulations and considerations on what the true nature of reality is.

[@photo_paper784]

I bet this little man left this interview thinking he nailed it, only to never comprehend that Ted Koppel nailed it.

[@GrowingUpInScientology]

Totally

[@namename4012]

Actually, I read somewhere that he was pissed off and, while leaving the studio, me muttered to an assistant something like, "Let's get the fuck out of here."

[@barbarakauppi9915]

Narcissistic sociopaths/psychopaths are delusional, that is absolutely true, and likely what drove him to do the interview in the first place. However, it's more likely that his adeptness at façade management - another key narc trait used for manipulation - kept his "face" on afterward until he was back to his own place of control.

[@vanmamawannabe6360]

Kinda like Prince Andrew did after his BBC interview! Clueless narcissist.

[@katejones2172]

@@namename4012 now that I do believe

[@GlobalistGazette]

Got sucked in 30 yrs ago. Notice the deflections in the a snswers. The switch from hard facts on one hand to fuzzy answers on the other depending on what suits. What an amazing interview. That came from a time we had journalists doing their job.

[@monkeywentbananas]

Ted Koppel absolutely killed it in this interview!

[@Mizmilla]

Yes he did! The fact that he could keep his composure with all that crazy babbling is impressive.

[@mcfcguvnors]

Just like david did his wife

[@TuckFrump-r9h]

@@Mizmilla As a cynical skeptic myself I found myself wanting to wring Miscavige's neck upon heearing his BS and all his logical fallacies. Ted is remarkably restrained.

[@velveetaslingshot]

Refused to let Miscarriage bulldoze him.

[@justanaveragejess86]

@@Mizmilla LOL right? I would have been pulling my hair out!

[@Weissguys6]

“There are 100,000 Scientologists.” Guess what David? You’ve lost 70,000 of them. Your own father escaped.

[@laurenmakridis9570]

Apparently there are actually “millions”. Lol 🙄🤦🏻‍♀️ He keeps saying 100,000 throughout this interview. He says for every 1 defector there are 100,000 Scientologist who love it. Then he says they saved 100,000 drug addicts lives. He just keeps using that number because the actual number of Scientologists is something they’ve been lying about since the start. Lol

[@Justicia007]

80,000!!! They are now down to 20,000

[@JasonSmith-jr7jh]

​@@Justicia007 Now down to 18,792!

[@thematthew.effect]

I can’t stop laughing imagining that Miscavige is standing the entire interview.

[@tjmackie4815]

Don’t understand how this isn’t the top comment

[@egt9093]

Lol

[@missmew5240]

This!🙌🤣

[@roxieolemeda3196]

Ha ha ha 😊 That's a good one

[@Nozarks1]

I don’t get it

[@b2themfeto]

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[@heathersmith65]

Holy crap. My favorite moment was when all he could say that Scientology did for him was that it cured his asthma. 😂. I am an avid fan of Leah and everything you guys are doing. I will be right there with you when we can dance in the ashes of Scientology.

[@lockandloadlikehell]

*Heather Smith !!*

[@darkmantis69]

He never asked him about his wife. Sigh

[@gina.1]

@@darkmantis69 This was interview was from ‘92. She was last seen in 2007.

[@jlcollins7673]

@@gina.1 exactly.

[@maryconnolly7240]

Sooo, a waitress in LA, who lives payck to payck, can walk into their church and

[@JimmyJames562]

This video should be used as way to show what real journalism is and what it should be, I don't think there's been an interview conducted this well in the media in the last 10 years or more.

[@ItsMaisyDaisy]

Absolutely agree! Real journalism is dead. It's been replaced by agenda driven propagandists.

[@smarieintn5955]

There's tons of amazing journalists and journalism out there. You won't always find it on the internet however. Our primary news sources took a blow when we had a cult like Pres. named trump who told his followers that the world, specifically journalists, are just a bunch of liars out to get him so don't believe a word they print it say...wow. What could be the motive behind that? Hmm, you're tearing apart the core of free society. So important are journalists that our founding fathers included them in our Constitution. Hmmm? What could it all mean?

[@smarieintn5955]

Put him on the spot here's your big moment go: what does he say, " well I'm not going to say Scientology is for you." oh my God give me a break. F'n hilarious.

[@smarieintn5955]

How much money does the average person spend for you to tell them in the end, that Scientology may not be for you?" So you don't like aliens and volcanoes and what we're trying to tell you and sell you it may just not be for you.

[@smarieintn5955]

He is lying through his teeth that money goes into real estate have you seen this guy's house or houses rather they're not really houses they're estates. He is lying through his teeth all they do is buy property they're trying to buy up the world and everything that they claim to do for everyone is made in their studios as a film that's a bigger fiction than any of their favorite member Tom Cruise's blockbuster hits. The only thing good they ever did for society was pay taxes in the towns where they buy everything but now thanks to their number one goal in life being recognized as an actual Church and not a sham which is what they are they don't have to pay taxes so they can buy up your whole city and you got maybe the 20 people that aren't scientologists paying for everything that's a fact.

[@colinbuchanan8776]

Usually the people being interviewed don't get to see the intro to the interview but Miscavige DEMANED to see the intro piece in this interview and even grabbed a producer by the collar to force them to show it to him. The producers relented and showed it to him, then Ted Koppel still proceeded to dominate little David. Absolute masterclass in journalism and interviewing! I think Miscavige exhibited every logical fallacy in the book.

[@Rita-nx6fg]

Scientology isn't a faith, it's a faith of money through subtrafuge.

[@InsideOutsider81]

To me, he doesn't sound at all like a religious leader. But he DOES sound like a really savvy businessman

[@annacloney4445]

I don’t disagree with you, but he also sounds like an egotistical narcissistic high school drop out 😂

[@craighicksartwork]

He's a con artist. That's what they do.

[@viridianhughes219]

💯

[@valeriee9532]

Ted was a beast! I used to watch him back in the day. This interview is a classic!!! He totally owned David. 😂

[@kingcobra_clips]

What makes him a beast? All I see is him taking “breaks” whenever it’s his time to think 😂

[@louskunt9798]

@@kingcobra_clips he was a beast because he was honest, unlike ANY current journalist. Nobody controlled him.

[@nycapplesJH]

I love how laid back Ted Koppel is lol David is so obviously flustered…he has to be laughing inside lol

[@annunziata7781]

Ted Koppel just didn't back down. Genius.

[@jesusisGod1434]

Thank you for reposting this… hilarious! Even back then journalists did t really do a good job.

[@ericschranz6958]

It's shocking how Tom Cruise and he share such similar mannerisms. WOW. And incredible interview skills and digging by Mr. Koppel.

[@shelleymartin1451]

My observations exactly! Here's the comment I wrote about just that: "Tom Cruise was the natural succession to this guy, a born actor, a much better actor than this character, with more charisma. Learned the abrasive & aggressive hard sell vernacular with the over- repeated phrases such as "Now you've got to understand", & "No, you're missing my point". Cruise was Groomed to be the next spokesperson For Scientology and Against Psychiatry. He ended up doing David Miscavage better than David Miscavage does David Miscavage lol."

[@minskie]

No kidding they could be brothers

[@canmima6529]

Sadly Tom Cruise has allowed himself to be brainwashed and groomed by sadistic narcissists whose main goal is to alienate people from their loved ones and steal their money. Any TRUE religion will allow their members to leave it and welcome them back with open arms if and when they decide to return. Also all socioeconomic walks of life are welcome and are NEVER required to pay for direction or to become or stay a member. Also there are NO secrets in any REAL religion, period! This Miscavige is full of crap, he talks circles without saying anything.

[@LauraEllen999]

Yes! I just commented the same thing. It's like Tom has been portraying him, in his interviews, lol

[@jonathanse8977]

Brainwashing is one hell of a drug. Cruise is a very dark, intense creature. So is Miscavige.