brb writing down all of these sections so I can make the most incomprehensibly structured song and throwing as much of these in a single track as possible
@anorthkey7 ай бұрын
Yesss fractal-like structured musiccc
@ryandugas9307 ай бұрын
Bro wtf
@hopsiepike7 ай бұрын
Komar and Melamid’s most unwanted song. A 22 minute masterpiece.
@jcfiggy7 ай бұрын
@@hopsiepikeI forgot about this masterpiece 😭
@niveketihw18977 ай бұрын
Bring it on. ABCDEBDCFDCA
@hongkongbeat21645 ай бұрын
As a DJ, I’ve learned over the years to never mess with a coda. Try fading out the end of ‘Hey Jude’ or ‘Don’t Stop Me Now’ and the floor will want to hang you 😂 Similarly with some intro, Gloria Gaynor’s ‘I Will Survive’ for example. The intro and coda are often integral to the energy of the entire song, even though they lack a dance beat.
@XXIII_897 ай бұрын
Alright you've convinced me.. I'll no longer be referring to the end of my songs as the outro.. from now on I will be calling them by their proper name, the "Outroduction"!!! Lmfao 🤣😆🤣😆🤣
@orionspur7 ай бұрын
My favorite sequence is: AᗺBA
@johndav_iD7 ай бұрын
I like that one too. It's sweeter than Honey, Honey
@CMAATN7 ай бұрын
That sequence makes me feel like i could dance and jive having the time of my life
@nilsisberg54456 ай бұрын
@@CMAATNThe theory book on the shelf, the structure's repeating itseeeeeeeeeelf
@scipio76 ай бұрын
I prefer ABACAB.
@kenkinnally61446 ай бұрын
What is the genesis of that structure?
@AliDawn6 ай бұрын
Finally, someone was able to give me a reasonable explanation of the difference between a "Bridge" and a "Middle 8". Thank you @davidbennettpiano !
@AliDawn6 ай бұрын
@DavidBennettPiano
@scottmelville34767 ай бұрын
Prog is where you see a lot of episodic structure. My band has a song that goes: Intro/A/B/C/D/C/E/Break/F/G/H/G/B
@fathuman7 ай бұрын
hehe yeah. I run a lot of Opeth and Steven Wilson songs into my DAW and mark out distinct sections off to try and find a structure to the songs, and I often risk running out of alphabet!
@Dipwad7 ай бұрын
What's the name of the song and your band? I love prog
@scottmelville34767 ай бұрын
@@Dipwad Band: Gamma Repeater. Album: Reverser in Neutral. Song: Dinosaur.
@stevehuffman14956 ай бұрын
Yes may have run out of letters on some songs...
@connorcarbon6 ай бұрын
Haha yeah I'm a progmetal composer and primarily go episodic with our 10 minute songs because they're telling "chapters" (thematic plot points) of the backing adventure fantasy story. but a couple are 4 or 5 minutes long and actually have a couple repeating sections! one is even "normal" with Intro, V, C, V, C, Bridge, Chorus Outro.
@glycerin7767 ай бұрын
thank you for always adding so many examples in your videos!! it really helps me to understand, especially because i dont know a whole lot of technical information about music!
@DavidBennettPiano7 ай бұрын
Great! 😊
@stevenmayoff60437 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video. I’m a lyricist who sometimes works with a composer partner. I knew many of these terms, but some were new to me. I have sometimes heard a pre-chorus referred to as a “slide.” One thing I’ll say about the bridge, from a lyricist’s point of view, is that it gives the writer the opportunity to offer a side comment on the song’s narrative. It’s an interesting way to bring in a new perspective that you might not be able to express in the verse or chorus.
@scotttroyer7 ай бұрын
A few song structures that appear a lot in modern worship music (and maybe also in other genres): tag, interlude, vamp, refrain, turnaround, breakdown. There are also modifiers that often get pre-pended to choruses such as: down, up, instrumental, a cappella, etc.
@itnefer47876 ай бұрын
Worship music - whatever that really is - is not the only thing that uses those labels. Do have a listen to other types of music.
@scotttroyer6 ай бұрын
@@itnefer4787 I do listen to and have written in lots of genres of music. My comment did mention that perhaps other genres use some of those structures too. It’s just that my first interaction with a lot of those structures happened to occur while working on worship music. By worship, I’m referring mostly to Christian music from roughly the 1990s up to today. My experience with Jewish worship music and other types of worship music has shown me that often the entire framework and mindset can be very different from a musical perspective.
@Oleg_K.Ай бұрын
Could you explain the terms you mention or give some examples of songs that make use of them? I haven't heard of some of them before and I'd love to know more.
@HeiniSchnulz6 ай бұрын
In Bohemian Rhapsody I always considered "Mama, just killed a man..." and "Too late, my time has come..." as two verses, which themselves have an AB structure each. That's because save for their respective endings (the 2nd verse's B cut short by 2 bars going intp the guitar solo which again is on that B's chord progression before it modulates for another 2 bar different ending)
@lillianmcrae65415 ай бұрын
I studied in a musical theatre conservatory and we spent a lot of time working with "Golden Age" tunes that used the AABA structure. He used a specific word--the "vest" to describe the verse before the beginning of the AABA section. Great example is the "But do you recall...the most famous reindeer of all?" portion of "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer."
@MarcoMastropaolo6 ай бұрын
A notable song structure is the one of Lynyrd Skynyrd's Free Bird: two sections, one is a Coda and before the coda there's a section called "something you'd pretend doesn't even exist but you must listen just to get to the Coda"
@maxenloteyro6 ай бұрын
it’s like you physically *HAVE* to, you can’t listen to the coda without the pre-coda thing or else it’ll sound like a dumpster fire
@beenaplumber83794 ай бұрын
I think y'all are nuts! (Not southern, just acting.) Of course we all love that amazing energy and the guitar work at the end, but it's a very emotional and melancholy song before it gets to that. It's also common in southern rock, like Fall of the Peacemakers, Ramblin' Man, and Green Grass and High Tides - the big southern rock anthems. It's a full song followed by a guitar break that's just as long. (I have difficulty calling it a coda. It seems way more than that.) I know, there is no argument for my taste being more meaningful than yours, but it seems a shame to sell the song short before the guitar leads. Since I was a little boy that slide guitar in Free Bird made me want to cry, and I never knew why.
@douglasmelvin98687 ай бұрын
DBP videos are wildly informative and very accessible, but the real reason I watch these videos is for David's pleasing British accent. Keep up the great work!
@joshcolston6 ай бұрын
'Take me out' By Franz Ferdinand has an interesting structure - almost a contemporary example of the show tune structure, with an initial "verse" section in a different tempo to the rest of the song, that never gets repeated. 🤔
@andrewdavis42953 ай бұрын
I think they said they liked the verse faster and the chorus slower so they just moved both verses to the beginning and left all the chorus’s at the end
@joakimtegblom69456 ай бұрын
Speaking of AᗺBA, the song Dancing Queen has an unusual structure when after the intro its jumps right into the second half of the chorus (or maybe you could call it a post-chorus). The reason for this, Björn Ulvaeus said when interviewed by Rick Beato, was because otherwise the song would've been too long. It's like: Intro-C2-A1-A2-B-C1-C2-A1-B-C1-C2-Outro
@SoloElROY6 ай бұрын
This is one of the topics I struggle the most when composing, as I was not trained in music, just took some guitar classes. My KZbin algorithm is flooded with production tips and tricks, but this... This is gold value for me. Thank you.
@MrOoYT4 ай бұрын
Yes. When just picking and choosing some parts of music to learn, you miss out on seemingly simple things that can actually really help with songwriting, like key changes.
@brianearl3627 ай бұрын
Holy smokes! One of your best videos yet...and that's really saying something 🙂🎹
@DavidBennettPiano7 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@marcelmarigo48824 ай бұрын
I agree
@beverlywilcox43496 ай бұрын
This is just about the best explanation of musical form I've ever seen. Thank you!!!
@guystreamsstuff78417 ай бұрын
Hey! It's interesting because in French we only have the word Refrain, and not Chorus! It's really shows how language also shapes the way we analyse, differentiate, and identify different components of a song.
@Lorenzo_der_Ritter7 ай бұрын
same thing in German, we took the word "Refrain" from the French to mean the same thing as "Chorus" in English
@rafaelbraga9207 ай бұрын
In Portuguese we use the word ‘refrão’. I guess English is the problem here haha 😂
@Oleg_K.7 ай бұрын
Pretty similar situation in Serbia/Croatia/Bosnia/Montenegro - we all just use _"refren"_ for the chorus.
@thestormcrafter7 ай бұрын
@@Lorenzo_der_RitterIn my Band it’s all messed up: Sometimes it’s Chorus, sometimes it’s Refrain, sometimes Strophe and Chorus are on the same sheet of paper.
@DontYouDareToCallMePolisz7 ай бұрын
And in russian there's "рефрен" (refrɛn) and "припев" (pripev) which mean the same thing (at least according to Wiktionary. my personal use of them is kinda "refrain" and "chorus" respectively)
@diamonddog137 ай бұрын
One of my favorite "episodic" songs is Thunder Road by Bruce Springsteen. It has the same tempo and time signature throughout, but the melody changes slightly in each section and doesn't repeat. That's why it still feels fresh every time I hear it.
@perkinscurry86657 ай бұрын
I finally understand a bit that George Burns (guess hold old I am) used to do all the time -- singing forgotten verses to songs where the practice over time had become to jump right into the chorus. Thanks.
@wyattstevens85747 ай бұрын
Never heard of him!
@georgeschade74626 ай бұрын
I remember John Bubbles on Tonight singing some of these and wrapping up with what he called the perfect universal first verse. He sang it and segued into the Star Spangled Banner
@dwmoll6 ай бұрын
This was brilliant and so helpful, David. Thank you for producing such high-quality videos.
@jay64j6 ай бұрын
This is so well constructed and clear. Lots of stuff I've been wanting to understand and I feel I got it completely in one go. Thanks so much!
@bellygunnermusic6 ай бұрын
great overview. for those that are new to music this break down will help to establish some structure in their thinking, and give them some vocabulary for interacting with other musicians in band situations. nicely done.
@davidfrischknecht82617 ай бұрын
I'll never get tired of listening to Bing Crosby's golden voice.
@MrStevos6 ай бұрын
I agree, but then he was such an A-hole !
@TheMister1237 ай бұрын
19:09 - The example of a front-loaded chorus that immediately popped into my head was "In the Air Tonight". 🙂
@kennet78376 ай бұрын
I was thinking "She Loves You".
@danielduarte21396 ай бұрын
bon jovi's you give love a bad name
@LarsRogowski6 ай бұрын
@@danielduarte2139And Bad Medicine! Althogh there is a short intro
@xoxb27 ай бұрын
This was extra good! Favourite video of yours. On favourite examples, Stockton Gala Days by 10,000 Maniacs has a clever structure, with bits chopped up and missed out, lots of pre and post choruses and bridges which help to deliver drive and release... Natalie Merchant often does interesting things with structure, and is well worth looking at in that light.
@Mr.Gnomebody5 ай бұрын
Visually highlighting the different sections of different songs definitely made this the most helpful of several videos I watchd on the subject. Apprecated.
@GingerWaters7 ай бұрын
I have heard ”Refrain” word to be used for the same last word or sentence repeated in every section. ”Can’t help falling in love with you” or ”My way” Are examples.
@Oleg_K.7 ай бұрын
I've heard that as well and you provide great examples. I think these should be better described as _"refrain lines"_ if only to differentiate them further from choruses.
@GingerWaters6 ай бұрын
Yep, ”refrain line” makes sense at the moment. I’m not native english speaker, but as far as I understand ”refrain” means when you keep yourself from doing something. I am forexample this week refraining from coffee to let my body get it’s adenosine levels to natural levels. So in that in mind, refrain would mean, prolonged note before resolution and the repeating line in the end of every song section would be ”resolution line”.
@Oleg_K.6 ай бұрын
@@GingerWaters That's a very nice way of looking at it. As far as I know, this word comes from Old French refraindre, meaning 'break', as the repeated refrain breaks up the sequence of the song/poem. It may go even further back and mean something slightly different in Latin.
@BinglesP4 ай бұрын
Don't forget that Rhythm Heaven song that uses the lyrical refrain "I suppose" as a built-in input cue for CLAPPING MONKIES HELL YEAH
@joeneil74487 ай бұрын
My favourite vid so far 💪🏻 your examples are so helpful. Been needing this lesson for years haha
@DavidBennettPiano7 ай бұрын
Fantastic 😊😊
@carlybun2317 ай бұрын
You are genuinely such a bright spot in the desolate wasteland that is the internet. I just finished writing my first EP and learned so much in the process. This video makes me want to go back and examine the structure of my songs and see if I can fine tune them using some of the things you mention here.
@JBugz7777 ай бұрын
"Say it ain't so" - Best bridge ever!
@DavidBennettPiano7 ай бұрын
Love that song so much!
@alfiewright13967 ай бұрын
The best weezer song!@@DavidBennettPiano
@bhall91296 ай бұрын
One of the top five songs ever in history...
@preposteroussvideos7 ай бұрын
I love this channel so much
@Rubino73827 ай бұрын
David, another great video. Thanks so much! You describe “Wake me up when September ends” as AABA. To me the repeating sentence “wake me up when September ends” ticks all the boxes to be considered a chorus, albeit a short one. That would make the song structure verse-chorus-verse-chorus with your B section as bridge (or middle 8).
@AliDawn6 ай бұрын
Hi there. I politely disagree (with the intent of having a healthy debate, not judging or trolling). One thing David didn't mention about Strophic Form (AAA) in this video but has mentioned in a different video, is that Stophic Form often has a repeating line, usually the last line of the verse. This provides some of the function of a chorus in that it provides a particular repeating, melodic, catchy, line and has a lyric that provides a summary of the meaning of the song. However, it doesn't fully qualify as a Chorus because it is shorter and usually hasn't provided a shift in tonality or dynamic that is expected of a chorus. The term "refrain" could be used here if you wish. I know that this song is not Strophic as it is Binary, but you can still use this repeating last line of a verse in Binary or any other form. When describing or scoring music, there often can be multiple ways of doing it. However, often simplest is key because you are trying to explain an idea to someone else. Therefore, explaining "Wake me up when September Ends" as "ABABA Coda" is easier than saying "ABABCABABABCABABBB"
@garyarnold31416 ай бұрын
I'm improving by watching your channel. When you discussed strophic form I immediately thought of 'The wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald'.
@mrfurst5 ай бұрын
I can't hit the like button enough. Thanks for taking the time to make this!
@peterhickstas5 ай бұрын
Your videos just get better. Thanks.
@zenleek21297 ай бұрын
Such a great episode! If you could make one about baroque-classical-romantic era music structures that would be perfect
@bucko54276 ай бұрын
man... this goes way back. First came the Menuet, which is AABA except B is called the trio. And then there's the Rondo, which is ABACA. and then comes Sonata form which really confuses things but I think it goes back further than that but I think all music will always revert back to these first structures because it feels right.
@prettyshinyspaghetti83326 ай бұрын
During Jimmy Buffets first appearance on the Tonight Show, after Margaritaville he sang an old standard (forget which one) and made it a point to include the forgotten verse. Johnny was so impressed that he made it a point to thank Jimmy since it was so common to skip over it
@NoahHornberger3 ай бұрын
What i've learned over the years is that as a composer you can't generally force a strong structure. The best structure given a couple sections that you are trying to get working together,largely depends on how to best present those sections and nothing else. The structures we see in songs are 'found' by trying everything possible and keeping the best arrangement. So when you hear many popular songs with very different structure: it means each is well done becasue it was true to it's elements and presented them effectively in the structure that created the most appropriate impact for the style and general presentation.
@maryseeker7590Ай бұрын
The Bee Gees “Nights on Broadway “ has complex beautiful structures that repeat excellently.
@ozboomer_au7 ай бұрын
Another mighty useful video. I knew about the 'missing verse' in (classic) 32-bar form.. but even though I knew a lot of the tunes were from shows, I never saw the movies/shows so didn't properly understand the usage of the verse. Chorus forms were also useful. and the explanation of how the 'Refrain' is often a 'mini-chorus'. Like the 'chord notation' and 'music iceberg' videos, these 'theory history' videos are often the most useful (to me, anyway). Fanx! a heap for posting them. 😀
@DavidBennettPiano7 ай бұрын
😊😊😊
@javiereu5 ай бұрын
As always, pure gold. Thank you!
@Managlyph7 ай бұрын
Wow, I was just wondering about this! I was trying to study some songs I liked to try and recreate them but I didn't know how to name parts of the structures for my notes.
@blacklabelnic7 ай бұрын
I love your videos David, you always seem to put one out about a current topic in my mind! Keep up the good work
@DavidBennettPiano7 ай бұрын
😊😊😊😊
@seadog3656 ай бұрын
I've only just realised that I've been calling it an outro and it never occurred to me that of course there's no such word as outroduction!!
@beenaplumber83794 ай бұрын
It's in music books too. It's not us being slackers. Pete Townshend played with that concept (kinda) in the rock opera Tommy, which had an overture and an underture. Now he was out on his own with that one. Outros are well established.
@mackermaldrill26566 ай бұрын
David, another brilliant video.
@gx8fif7 ай бұрын
Great video, but surely ABACAB by Genesis deserves a mention? It is probably the only song that (sort-of) describes its own structure!
@TangoLovesPianoAndGames6 ай бұрын
actually it's ACCAABBAAC
@calebwoods66556 ай бұрын
I was screaming at my phone for ABACAB
@olivernorton98486 ай бұрын
One of my favourite codas is the one from Saviour by Prince. It's a complete tonal shift and could have been left out but it all works so well and is by far my favourite part of the song.
@benwright28557 ай бұрын
I was hoping to see a rondo represented somewhere. François Couperin's "Les Barricades Mystérieuses" is my all time favourite piece in that form, just sublime.
@ramonacosta26476 ай бұрын
I think that you can view ABAC as a kind of truncated rondo.
@OpheliaOuroboros6 ай бұрын
I love that you put Judy on here! ❤
@BinglesP4 ай бұрын
My favorite examples of songs that are Strophic(aside from their brief intros and outros) but not supposed to be simple chants or rhymes are the video game tracks "Scarlet Phoneme" from _Touhou 4: Lotus Land Story_ and "Built to Scale" from _Rhythm Heaven Fever._ They both have one melody that repeats, but they change the key of the melody and have different beats to go alongside it as it progresses. The latter one also changes the BPM at which the melody plays as well, but that's ultimately just another simple setting change. It works so well because the one melody each of them use are independent and dynamic, to the point at which they can flawlessly lead up to themselves from themselves. A musical ouroboros, if you will.
@choccooco6 ай бұрын
I have to submit the song rearrangement in the next 1 and a half month but I'm still struggling with basic music theory. Your video helps me a lot, thank you very much T*T. Wish you a happy weekend
@dennishickey71947 ай бұрын
Gold. Thanks!
@DavidBennettPiano7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@petergivenbless9007 ай бұрын
Variations is a form that has been used in classical music for centuries but a contemporary version would be building up a song through layering loops, and is popular in dance music and with some street performers (who use loops recorded and played back live, in layers, as an accompaniment).
@FangPaw6 ай бұрын
The ABACA or ABACABA form is very common in Rondos, which originated in the Baroque era and continued into the Classical period. A great example is Beethoven's "Fur Elise".
@symphonicdualityband4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much I needed this concept broken down, I used to just go intro verse chorus verse chorus more or less, been writing and playing for years and only approached that way, I only did that way , I now know I should of started simple and bout much like learning theory I jumped into to deep and developed a bad habit of the same structure and my songs all the same, this is going help me so much , oh man thank u so much
@cswanson44764 ай бұрын
Wow. Not only do I finally understand what is meant by “bridge”, I also understand why I couldn’t understand it before.
@TylerRossow6 ай бұрын
Breakdown was snubbed 😢
@creepmike77Ай бұрын
Arf Arf 😂
@Fire_Axus3 күн бұрын
StGeSoEm
@JeffreyChadwell7 ай бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't mention 12-bar blues. It's a form that's made its mark on popular music, especially in the early days of rock 'n' roll.
@DavidBennettPiano7 ай бұрын
True. Although I think of 12 bar blues more as a chord progression than a song structure. 😊😊
@BenPrevo6 ай бұрын
Also the one chord vamp - john lee hooker bo diddley etc.@@DavidBennettPiano
@TheHowlingEye6 ай бұрын
@@DavidBennettPiano lyrics are often AAB, so imo it counts as a structure
@DavidBennettPiano6 ай бұрын
@@TheHowlingEye yeah fair point 😊
@AliDawn6 ай бұрын
@@DavidBennettPianoI think I agree that it is a chord progression and the song form is then Strophic as you repeat the 12 bars over and over I.e, it is AAAAAAA (ad infinitum, depending on how many people walk into the room and want to do their own guitar solo 😂).
@waynedwyer65096 ай бұрын
That has cleared up so many questions for me, Thank You
@DavidBennettPiano6 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@jeremiahlyleseditor4377 ай бұрын
Thanks again for your work. This covered a few things that I was never taught.
@DavidBennettPiano7 ай бұрын
Great 😊
@JoHe_SonicBanana6 ай бұрын
Nice video as always. I would like to point out the rondo form; ABACAD. It would be interesting to also see how would you contextualize intstrumental solos and drum breaks.
@adancein7 ай бұрын
What a fun video, thank you! I think it's interesting how we start applying structure and "rules" to music based on music that already exists. It's very similar to language, where some kind of consensus has been found out of what is or has been most popular. Still, I'm always interested in experimenting and trying out new stuff. Well, new as in, not neccessarily popular. Of course an unfathomable amount of things has been tried out before.
@thestormcrafter7 ай бұрын
I wish this would have been longer.
@TheTobesOfHades7 ай бұрын
In Progressive rock you hear a lot about "Themes". (please excuse my lack of technical song knowledge) but it seems like the song can either go anywhere and not repeat anything except for this "theme" or it can have repeating sections (verse, chorus and so on) and still revisit the "theme" occasionally. (sometimes it seems randomly) It usually shows up in longer pieces that have movements such as Yes' Close to the Edge or Genesis' Supper's Ready or Pink Floyd's Dogs. If you like can you look at these types of songs and break them down? Thanks and I always enjoy your vids and feel I learn something from them.
@Turtle-lan6 ай бұрын
I never take any music class ever so I know nothing about this. I listen to a bunch of songs without really paying attention but I know for sure it usually have verse, prechorus, chorus, bridge and sometimes intro and outro until recently I listen to a bunch of kpop songs. Songs from SM like Super Junior 'Sexy, Free and Single' 'Mamacita', Exo 'Call Me Baby", Aespa "Next Level" really made my brain go, "wait, what's this I'm hearing?". It's not the usual song structure I've heard then I checked out genius lyrics and found things like Breakdown, Interlude, Refrain, etc. I watch this vid to know more about song structure as I'm interested and thank you for the explanation. I wish you could explain interlude and breakdown.
@Topcatyo.7 ай бұрын
Very glad you made this video, I’ve been trying to analyze song structure to try and help improve the flow for a lot of the songs I make. I have a habit of structuring my songs as "building A-section, Bridge, A section again with more elements to make it spicier". It works like once or twice since my songs are instrumental since I don't have confidence as a lyricist, but it feels like a crutch. It feels like a structure I've picked up from listening to (mostly) instrumental electronica like Fatboy Slim and The Chemical Brothers. Also, I remember when Kendrick Lamar’s Good Kid M.A.A.D. City dropped, my one friend who is a rapper was really excited about Money Trees and the structure of that song. He described it to me as, as best as I can remember, “7 different hooks just circling around each other” or something to that effect. I'll have to listen to the song again to see if I can identify the structure it has.
@billycjustice7 ай бұрын
David, out of all the videos I watch on KZbin, yours are the ones I tend to watch from start to finish. Great content always! Unreal how much I learn from you. Thank you.
@DavidBennettPiano7 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks!
@jackielinde75687 ай бұрын
You didn't mention D. S. (Dal Segno)/D. C. (Da Capo) al Coda. While not technically song structures (more player's notation), they do alter the song's structure and affect the existing structures by indicating what gets played again and what gets skipped before going to the Coda.
@itnefer47876 ай бұрын
They're not sections at all, so it's understandable David didn't mention them.
@SheetFiber7 ай бұрын
In the song Every Breath You Take, the transition from bridge to the next part is so seamless. One of the best transition I have ever heard!
@GianniBosio6 ай бұрын
Rhapsody is a greek term that literally means "sewed singing", which perfectly fits the A+B+C+D+E format!
@AndyMangele4 ай бұрын
A great analysis - as always! 👍
@davegarski15487 ай бұрын
This was a fantastic, highly educational video. As a guitar teacher, I knew most of it - but to have each piece put into context form, makes it so much easier to comprehend, especially for beginner songwriters and instrumentalists. I will be using this to help my students understand songwriting. Thanks David.
@philiphumphrey15487 ай бұрын
"Don't sleep in the subway" by Petula Clark is an odd one. It's two almost completely different tunes joined together by bridges in the form tune A, bridge 1, tune B, bridge 2, tune A, bridge 1, Tune B and repeat tune B.
@makemusicordie5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the great vid!
@DavidBennettPiano5 ай бұрын
Thank you ☺️
@bobbauer79286 ай бұрын
Something I have noticed with the 32-bar form is that each A section ends with a repeated vocal phrase that often is the title of the song. And that phrase often is the hook of the song as well.
@mrjazzman20076 ай бұрын
Brilliant, concise, clear exploration of these forms, thank you David, I will be circulating this to my songwriting pals! One point: I recently came across the term "rondo" - which I had heard but didn't know what it was. Turns out it's a form in which a section is repeated and interspersed with different sections, ie ABACAD etc... it seems to come from classical music and I can't think of any examples of it in pop music. Do you know of any, and do you think this is a distinct song structure to the ones you've outlined?
@22552233887 ай бұрын
This was an excellent video
@DavidBennettPiano7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@m.rieger88567 ай бұрын
Very nice explanation! I would be curious about some typical techniques (melodical and rhythmical) that are used e. g. in a pre-chorus. Maybe that’s an idea for more videos? 😊
@chilltcf71247 ай бұрын
I didn't see anyone metion this, but in a lot of metal subgenres the breakdown is a pivotal section in the song. Anything from metalcore to djent it's present.
@luigiscazzari47247 ай бұрын
Great video. David is posed to be the best KZbin music teacher
@DavidBennettPiano7 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks!
@Papyrusans7 ай бұрын
I'm not sure if this is really a type of song structure, but something I find interesting is when the chorus is extended later in a song. Very often, it is the same lyrics repeated, while at other times, different lyrics are sung in the additional bars. For example, in The Reason by Hoobastank, the first and second choruses are 8 bars long, but the final chorus is 16 bars long with new lyrics in the new 8 bars. PS: Great and helpful video as always! 💖
@dakotawinston76777 ай бұрын
Please, more on this subject
@frankzelazko7 ай бұрын
thank you, our favourite music teacher
@DavidBennettPiano7 ай бұрын
Thank you! 😃
@svenisaksson39707 ай бұрын
I do believe you skipped one common structure. The 12 bar blues. There are a gazillion songs written with this structure.
@DavidBennettPiano7 ай бұрын
12 bar blues is a chord progression really though, not a song structure
@MasonBarge7 ай бұрын
Absolutely correct, although the more traditional blues form has a stricter AAB form.
@MasonBarge7 ай бұрын
@@DavidBennettPiano If 32 bar is included, 12 bar should be. IMO.
@DavidBennettPiano7 ай бұрын
@@MasonBarge well 32 bar form is a structure with AABA pattern and other conventions. It doesn’t stipulate a chord progression. 12 bar blues is a 12 bar chord progression which is used as part of various other structures including strophic and binary
@DavidBennettPiano7 ай бұрын
@@MasonBarge it is true though that the blues traditionally had the AAB form within the 12 bars. Fair point
@moeinsajadiyeh22547 ай бұрын
Goodjob.Can you make a Classical version of this?
@NakedUndoneАй бұрын
You missed the rondo and sonata forms. The Oxford Companion to Music also lists the fugue and the "air with variations".
@Yala-7 ай бұрын
Question: Songs like "With or Without You", "Careless Whisper" & "Last Christmas" use the same chord progression throughout but have distinct melodies for Verse & Chorus. Do these count as Strophic? Is it the chord progression or the melody which make it strophic?
@echsecutioner5 ай бұрын
Great video, very comprehensive!
@giraffegirl16916 ай бұрын
And then you have trad music, which is just ABABABABABA on infinite loop until your group gets bored, the dance ends, everyone had a solo, or you get too fast to keep going. Love that.
@JamieAndersonMusic7 ай бұрын
Very informative, thanks. I've always wondered about pre-choruses, though. Isn't it simply part of the chorus? Albeit, a part of it with a different melody perhaps, but still related to the chorus.
@autumnloving4205 ай бұрын
Does the Dave Bennett Theory course go over all these explanations? You're my favorite youtuber by the way. I'm a musician trying to become a songwriter/composer. I know there's a big difference between the two. Thank you
@NsteveA6 ай бұрын
This may be my favorite DB breakdown and really help me understand music construction beyond ABAB bridge... middle 8, through composed... who knew?! Well not me anyway. 😂
@thomaskuzma43604 ай бұрын
I've been learning All Star on the piano and I think it has a pre chorus and a bridge? The years start coming section being the prechorus and the solo part being a bridge.
@noahsalzman42787 ай бұрын
As an enthusiast of the Great American Songbook I've been calling the B section "the bridge" for a few decades. Thanks for clearing that up!
@ShiningHourPop7 ай бұрын
One of the cleverest bridges I know is in Better Be Home Soon by Crowded House. Also Wild Flowers by Ryan Adams has 4 or 5 different parts and is a genius song.
@HermelJaworski7 ай бұрын
There is also in EDM and other techno/electronic music the form Verse, Chorus, Drop (where the drop is an instrumental melody)
@reillywalker1956 ай бұрын
The traditional Scottish song "Skye Boat Song" has a front-loaded chorus, as do "Live Forever" by Oasis and "Shout" by Tears For Fears. The choice to open with the chorus in "Shout" by Tears For Fears is made more interesting by the fact it's the opening track of its respective album, which certainly makes for a bold introduction.