Will Network Engineers still have jobs? Or will Software Developers replace Network Engineers?

[@yaxiangz.7634]

I literally screamed when that guy said picking up networking stuff is more challenging than picking up software engineering :))) be proud! All the Network engineers!!!!

[@eon001]

The look on the dev's face in that moment too even before he said anything. "Yea he's right" :)

[@moikeerl1780]

I am doing the Network Engineer study :)

[@dean6125]

he means to learn how to do a networking task like some automation in code, not s/w engineering as a whole

[@NetworkEvolution]

True, Network Engineering skills will be valuable always, only the way network engineers work might change. They might focus more on automating tasks and scripting. But still protocol knowledge is must.

[@slosh5411]

I'm a network engineer and I have CCIE. About half a year ago I started my python journey and now I can say with confidence - I taught myself how to code. My last script was about 600 lines of code. The book that gave me the real boost is this Eric Matthes - Python Crash Course. A Hands-On, Project-Based Introduction to Programming Don't be afraid the coding is easy ;)

[@TomZhou-v3f]

Conrad Hart I’ll look into that book

[@rkmallesh5]

Thanks Allot sir 👍👍 Gave us wonderful suggestion.

[@rkmallesh5]

Sir....... Can you provide your mail id. Actually I completed ccna R and S. I need some guidance from you please....

[@Tux0xFF]

Coding is easy, but there is a lot more to it, same as networking.

[@sauceforce9623]

Networking is easier than coding

[@kairoswave]

I am a Software Engineer and I recently picked up the CCENT book and I was like what the hell is this!? haha but I love it.

[@slosh5411]

As a network engineer, I'm wondering what confused you. OSI model?)

[@kairoswave]

@@slosh5411 haha yes and the whole subnetting thing 😂

[@DS-me7kk]

Put that book down and get yourself gym membership

[@kairoswave]

@@DS-me7kk been training brazilian jiu jitsu for 9 years :)

[@michaelangeles9482]

If you know how to read and understand what you read...there no boundary between a networking and developer...it’s all about experience, and the drive to keep updated what’s on table

[@zadkieladdae8145]

Software Defined Networking is taking over the CLI and to remain in the game you have to start learning and getting use to programming languages (e.g. python) relating to network. It good to learn new things and it makes you feel different (in a good way).

[@dogstar2020]

Love this, David! My background is sysadmin, then on to web programming, and now I'm going for a CCENT/CCNA ( using your courses!), and I LOVE that I might be able to interface with programmers effectively, with my own knowledge of Python and programming, but still be useful ( integral??) as a network engineer. Good on ya for all the great and helpful material you continue to share, David!

[@edsonrocks]

Sometimes I feel that Networking is becoming commodities like electricity. People use it everywhere, but don't really care how it works. The networking hardware is less and less important, if it doesn't work, it is just replaced. The average network tasks are becoming less relevant, only high profile architecture is still important. Thank you for this video. It's really good.

[@vejamoxdan]

Just to share my experience with you, colleagues: I started to learning programming in 2014. I use tcl and expect and now I'm an enthusiastic of ansible. Using those old-fashioned but powerful languages I automated a lot of things in my company. One of my automation was to configure dot1x on more than 4500 switches, with a lot of variables. One of the issues found, was that in some switches, for instance, one server was connected on port fa0/7 but on other switch, the port was connected on fa0/19, where this type of port should be configured with mab firstly lieu of dot1x. In order to achieve this, I developed a proc with nmap, to discover the fqdn of servers, connecting on router, taking the arp and consequently, their mac-address. Turned back to the switch, I matched just this server's mac with this own port where was just this particular mac. That way I configured exactly the port where the server was connected.

[@davidbombal]

Thanks for sharing Danilo! That is fantastic.

[@tsrinivasnetwork6143]

Thank you Danilo. Local Technician used to ask me this question, “can you provide me the list of IP’s address of vlan 60 and switch ports details from where these IP's are learning from all edge switch”? Can we provide this data script?

[@osazemeusen1091]

I did alot of reading up in CCNA and a little CCNP before veering into software engineering. Building fault tolerant distributed systems require deep knowledge in networking

[@mannysawa9779]

pointers, looking to move into that SW eng dir [e-mail]

[@NB-gx2xr]

This is one funny video.... Most of the Software Developers have no idea how the network works. A Network Engineer can learn programming quicker than a Software Developer learning Networking (CCNA). All the Network Engineers( Admins) will get upgrade in the future.

[@TwstedTV]

whoa there long ranger.. that statement can go two ways just FYI - Most of the Network Engineers have no idea how the Software Development works. try having 20-k lines of code and your application breaks. even the people who spent 20 years as a software developer pull their hair when their application breaks and they have thousands of lines of code. - dont get to eager there buddy....lol Just wait until a hacker not only breaks into a network, but now re-code the application the network is running on., drop your socks and pull up your panties, because we are going for a ride...lol I hope companies start getting good CyberOps team, because they are going to need it. You are making it sound like we software developers are pieces of crap now. - Just remember, if it was not for us Software Developers, you would be on youtube typing your comment or operating your computer and talking on your smartphone. just remember that....lol

[@beqaj01]

@@TwstedTV If network engineers were not around you would be executing your code on a piece of paper...without understimating your comment,I think Software need Networks and Networks need Software!

[@dean6125]

@@beqaj01 done both and its easy to pick up some basic coding skills for automation. networking is easier but a large volume to learn

[@Hypocrisy.Allergic]

The best way is to know medium programming and at least ccnp. A man who knows both deserves the name engineer.

[@ttech1280]

I really like the Q and A format. Would like to see more of this format, getting perspective from Network or other technology professionals.

[@enesfils2941]

Great job David!!! I am recent graduated from ICT(Networking & Telecommunications) so I really appreciate your videos and I am sure those content are helping to understand more my career, being certified and do my task as well as I have to do that as a Network Engineer!!! Thanks again for the content!

[@mohamed-amezianemaouene1358]

I think that none of them will replace each other but instead each one of them will develop it's second field so that we will have a network engineer with sotfware dev. skills and vice versa

[@davidbombal]

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[@addacdd]

I came from a IT Admin background and picked up learning how to program at my local CC. I have respects to both fields and have changed my views. No one side is easy. Both have their plus sides and down sides. My stance is learn both. In this day and age due to the pandemic you better learn a new skill (any IT) and apply it to your understanding than being left behind. I have had multiple interviews these past few months and had 15 year engineers or system admins drop down to a entry position because they had nothing new to offer and kept doing the same thing repeatedly. I picked up C++ and will finish out with Java and do a local boot camp. My whole point is to learn and apply what I know and bridge the gaps in between.

[@edtorres264]

Awesome information David. I'm looking forward to attending some DevNet sessions at CLUS in a week to learn more about automating deployments.

[@orleydoss3171]

Great content, really appreciate the insite of the developers side and the convergence / overlaps. Great to be well rounded. 👍

[@u82zar]

3 years later, no. The answer is no. 01:45 “basic networking skills”? The problem is there aren’t any “basic networking skills”. It is more probable that network engineering absorbs the “programmability” for networks than software developers absorbing networking engineering. I have seen it first hand. Software engineering will keep on focusing on application layer

[@georgehewitt8041]

David your an inspiration to the networking community. Keep up the good work.

[@kaykann7880]

Network Engineers are like Network Architect, they design network solution; be on Prem or in Cloud. Soft Developers are not Architects.

[@albertdadzie4567]

Basically, you don't understand software engineering... end of discussion

[@kaykann7880]

@@albertdadzie4567 Yeah, this is how you write the code by "Ending". LOL.

[@TwstedTV]

YOU have no understanding of software engineering or development.

[@naingaung7827]

Thank you very much. Mr.David.

[@bachiriahmedmahmoud3260]

From what I've seen and what I'm seeing in my country I think network engineer are underated.

[@sidheekmohammed9361]

Informative video :) thanks David and Devnet team

[@abhishekshah11]

I get that python scripting is useful for automating configuring some of the stuff we do with the CLI, but beyond that where are we applying this so called "software development" in networking? As far as I'm aware, building software like that to analyse internet traffic is typically a mammoth task for someone who just writes python for CLI and is best left to those who focus fulltime on developing software rather than network engineers. I'm not saying that its impossible but the learning curve looks steep to me unless I'm mistaken.

[@davidbombal]

I doubt network engineers will become software developers (at least most). We have different roles, but automation is very important to know as a network engineer today. In future who knows what will happen.

[@SafarovTech]

Thank you David. Great video.

[@PatrickKinane1]

I like hearing this. I’ve wondered about the future with programming getting more attention.

[@akshaybhutoria6837]

Nice to see video on much awaited topic 👌

[@buckmajor]

I've been thinking about this for some time. I have a choice to do either one of these careers and leading more towards Software development. I have to decide by end of the week.

[@steve-harveyy]

You have to ask yourself what you want from the job. Software engineers generally earn more and and software development jobs are more common and you could possibly work remotely as well. I would say do some research on both and see which one seems more interesting but you can always switch if you don't like it.

[@theruggedboy7958]

for me it is easy to learn programming, I'm a network engineer btw...I have already worked with so many software engineers/developers who really knows how to program but I don't understand why it is that so difficult for them to learn at least what is a DNS, what is a cname record, really. everyday like this. the dont even know how to have a ca cert.

[@supersmart671]

When I try to start with networking they software is taking over....when I try to get into software I realize I don't have the passion. How does one decide???

[@davidbombal]

Networking will still be around for many years. Jobs may change but, networking skills are still really important.

[@mdtaylor2274]

Any idea when DevNet books and training will start to be pushed out? I'd imagine if I'm completely new to this scene, it's probably a good idea to start DevNet.

[@victormendoza3295]

I hope to do IT my whole life.

[@karmendarsinghjadaun9846]

If you are from IT than you should have knowledge of programming language If you aspire to grow in IT If you think that having a knowledge of 1or 2 programming language You will able to become good programmer it will be not possible On other hand if you think having some certification like CCENT CCNA you will able to become network engineer it's not possible it's just starting towards to networking domain You need to hard work and also gain knowledge of servers and how to secure a network and penetration tools and techniques. IT is very dynamic carrier nothing is stable here It will easy for a organization to hire web developers and software developers But it will be typical task to hire well skill networking or networking security engineer

[@franceleeparis37]

Already happening... the network has gone as far as it can and speed is the only limitation... a network lasts for 30 year so the only requirement will be operation and maintenance engineers... everything else will be software ...🤔🧐

[@subhuman7695]

This is helpful information.. Thankyou😊

[@debanshusamantaray406]

A real Opener Video 🤯

[@mohammadakhtar6941]

The dangerous guy there is just BSing. I am a software engineer who also got my CCNA, being a productive software engineer that deals with software at scale is way harder than passing the CCNA exam, wtf is he talking about?

[@abinjoseph9808]

No one gives poison saying that it's poison. They put it in wine, tell that they are your friend, that it will be okay, gives a kiss. Game of thrones in IT world lol

[@elijahtheo5812]

Would you recommend your networking course on Udemy for a Cybersecurity student?

[@sreejith_jinachandran]

Sir do video's about palo alto firewalls!

[@新川貴洋-p1c]

I think network engineers who learn codeing replace other NEs.

[@tsrinivasnetwork6143]

I guess, u r absolutely right

[@yudanaim6849]

Software engineers needs to update their skills frequently

[@onurcan9129]

Anybody can explain the exact difference between CCNA Security and Cyber Ops ?

[@ultraegovegeta5401]

ONURCAN 91 Go check out Network Chuck, he did a video where he explained the difference.

[@DDayVlogss]

Thanks again❤️

[@tshepomore5552]

Thank you David, "fear of the unknown" is now gone!

[@criptech7750]

Hello david, i've been learning many programming language in uni years but phyton, where can i start learn phyton "for begginer", or can you sugest some good books for me, thank you so much 😊

[@DanielCanizzo]

Go to davidbombal.com, I use his website, learning about Cisco CCNA and Network Automation, 5 star's content.

[@criptech7750]

@@DanielCanizzo okay thanks, i will take a look

[@b213videoz]

Relax everyone, automation will take away Dev and Network Engineering jobs... so DevOps will retain theirs (maybe)

[@D-J-Q]

I studied both. For me software development is harder. Network scenario: Customers expect you to man the net/sys infrastructure things so you give them proper internetz, intranetz, make it not slow at least even if not ultra fast, data storage management -- basically machine to machine connectivity whether LAN, WAN, PAN, etc. Developer scenario: Fucking chemists expect you to understand their logic cu'z developer majority of challenges are not syntax/technical nature but logical. "Well excuse me for being a developer and not a chemical scientist instead"... *sigh*

[@AdrianCsaszar]

Good questions

[@albertdadzie4567]

Trying to make network engineering look more appealing does not devalue software engineering in any way. Software engineers who write networking solutions know more about networking than NEs. We need to be realistic, software engineering is one of the broadest profession acting as a base for most professions in IT. Let's get real, most of these protocol stacks are written by SEs. NE is more of an OAM profession, and in our world, you need someone to do OAM and provide Training & Support.

[@Sky1]

Gosh these guys giving you their input, I have to laugh, I have more experience than they are old. In other words all of them combined. Automation of network configurations is already here. The problem come in with mergers and acquisitions when they need to change or add to existing networks. Programmers cannot automate that. Tier 1, 3 and 3 all have troubles, when all these people give throw in the hat, they call me. :-)

[@tsrinivasnetwork6143]

Value ur inputs... we can't replace experience...

[@BobbyWilliams39443]

Once you go Go, you won’t look back to Python.

[@davidbombal]

lol ... Bobby... a lot of people agree with you ... and a lot don't.... such is life...

[@MrHawk407]

Hi David, I am a network and security engineer. I am working on Data centre and Cisco ASA firewalls. I would like to do a certification. But I am not sure which one i have to choose?? Can u please advise me, which one is worth to do,

[@bigo025]

CCIE

[@MrHawk407]

Kmer Dla ccie in what??

[@abhishekyadav-gc8xb]

@@MrHawk407 security

[@tgenden1]

Start with CCNA Security. This deals with ASA Firewalls, security protocols, etc and introduces you to Cisco's implementation of Security on their devices.

[@JP-fi1bz]

Will network engineer job always be questionable?

[@davidbombal]

For the moment yes.... a lot of people are worried and job roles will definitely change. I am old, so I remember what happened to PBX engineers. Not many jobs like that anymore...

[@Mr4Step4]

So the short answer is no