Tarp Setups and Research for System Development

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[@SpiritofWildWings]

Again Dave, I wanted to give you a "Thanks" for sharing sources. You instruct, inspire and teach so many people. Job well done my friend.

[@lostgenuis]

Dave, your reading and teaching of bushcraft is by far the best info on the market today. you are selling a tried and true method that folks have kept themselves alive with for the the majority of the years of our country's history. Keep up the good work brother. Nessmuck would be proud just to be in your company. In my opinion it is not about SHTF but the true art of bushcraft and getting out to the woods and doing what we love. thanks

[@alanmcmichael6714]

Thanks again, Dave We know there is nothing new under the sun, but what you bring to the table is: 1. You have done the research. 2. You have invested the dirt time to research the best way to do things. 3. You have a gift for teaching it. Keep it up, brother!

[@TheHiddenWoodsmen]

I am really glad u made this video dave. So many people want to accuse others of stealing ideas but we all sometimes forget that everything has been done under the sun. There is nothing new.

[@buffalo1a1]

To Dave,The crew,and my fellow longhunters and bushcrafters.... Merry Christmas

[@MatteoSixSeventyFour]

Dave great video and thank you for doing these bush craft series of videos. I know I enjoy them and appreciate the time you take to do this!

[@KingsBar69]

Thanks for sharing your thought process with us Dave.

[@ytugtbk]

As always an outstanding video! Loved your devotion to wilderness authors of years gone past. Speaks volumes about your love of the outdoors, predecessors to same, and your levelheadedness.

[@semco72057]

That is a nicely designed shelter and I will be using it where I live in the Mid-West to sleep in during all seasons, especially Winter months when I would be camping out. You are so correct about the idea of knowing how to build a sleeping shelter similar to the one you built and using it to survive in any area of the world. I will be looking up further information on others who have written books about how to make shelters and surviving in the forest.

[@WhiskeySpiritGuide]

I'm expecting some weather that's less than perfect this weekend. I'm gonna put this shelter into practice. I'll be happy to let you know how it works out in Texas. Keep up the learning, Dave. So we can all learn together. Thanks for the video, brother.

[@shaneschannel9289]

Rock on! I have said before how I love the fact that you study history. Things change. The way you take that historical knowledge and combine it with modern technology makes you stand out.

[@wozjonze1886]

Nice video Dave. I have used this set up for a number of years using a parachute silk as a light weight tarp when wild camping/ hiking. But what I have learned from this is: doubling over the base/ ground sheet and adding leaves for extra insulation. I had not thought of that! Thank you.

[@mickeyauthement6898]

Like that set up mucho.......the simplicity of it and the logic behind it are astounding.

[@jorgamund07]

At first I thought this was a kind of working shelter, and the 4 foot floor was for doing chores. But when you folded it over, that "aha!" bell went off in my head. Great idea!

[@briargoatkilla]

Good set up and chat. I use a similar pitch often, but I use just enough floor for a moisture barrier, and the rest for a bigger roof. I'll remember your version if my Therma-Rest ever blows out on me in the field. Thanks!

[@alzathoth]

that tarp shelter is absolutely brilliant! just what I've been looking for dave. thank you.

[@jdgwilliams2012]

Good innovation/outside the box. I've done this minus the wool/browse. Thanks Dave. Spreading the knowledge.

[@Vx777infonet]

Glad to hear you addressing "Bushcraft" Ideas and history, It appears a hot topic at the moment in the online community.

[@wildernessfreak81]

Thanks for sharing your sources. That's putting others first. Have a Merry Christmas!

[@kyphilburg]

Thanks Dave. Merry christmas and happy holidays to you, your family, all your firends, affiliates, and sponsors. Keep up the good work.

[@robertlundquist5450]

Another great video. Thanks for the list of authors. I knew of four. Now I have more resources to read. Thanks and enjoy the holidays.

[@flipstyle1983]

They say great minds think alike! I use this every time I camp out I have been for almost 2 years now that is awesome. I've always called it my tarp bed set-up lol. Great video

[@couchcamperTM]

Merry Christmas Dave, Iris and to the whole family!

[@pastorpfp1]

Great job, Dave! Merry Christmas to you and your family.

[@wnchillbilly1]

good video , that set-up is a lot more familiar to me. I grew up using a similar one, but Dad used some thick plastic sheeting for our Summer fishing trips. We'd stay 2 weeks and move camp up the creek we was fishing every few days so as to fish new water. Sometimes we couldn't find trees spaced just right and just roll up in the plastic. ahh yes, those were the days, the mountains weren't as tall and the ground wasn't near as hard as it is now, fish in every pool and no tourists.

[@l3nnz3]

I thank you for the time and effort you put forth to teach all of us. I have learned alot from your youtube channel, sorry that I don't much money to contribute to you for this, but when I can, I will.

[@moultonmotox]

Love the "Pathfinder" tarp tent. I will definitely use it.

[@kullcraven]

Nice shelter i used a 16x20 tarp the same way. Tho 6 ffot ground area. then staked done in the back, up to a ridge line, then back to the ground, so mine was closed in. So staked the back and front with a ground sheet. Great video and info.

[@robertwescott2095]

Nice set up Dave. Over here in the Adadirondacks I'v seen that set up or similar. I have done that but in a hard rain I fold it up over my self and sleeping bag to keep dry from splatter and splash.

[@shadomane]

This is a great video and I especially like that you bring out the fact that the so called new bush craft/survival skills and methods are actually and mostly the old school skills passed along or refined and in some cases advanced thru technology. My stepfather who was born in southern Oregon in 1910(and was nearly old enough to be my gramps) raised me in the same area during the 60's &70's and taught me bush craft, hunting, trapping, fishing, survival etc. the same methods he was taught along with the technology advances of his time. And, as you are pointing out, it's the same basic methods and skills in which some have improved and evolved if you will with the advances in technology and of course new ideas. Thanks for the great videos. :)

[@tinytin5]

Thank you for the info Dave

[@wyattoneable]

I enjoyed learning today, thank you.

[@goriverman]

Thanks Dave, its always better to have all kinds of shelter option to do. i'll remember this one because its super easy. Merry Christmas to you and your Family

[@TBOR101]

I like the setup, Merry Christmas to You and the Family

[@1koolhick]

Excellent list of author's. Like the tarp setup,thanks for sharing.

[@Shadow_Demon_X]

Good Video Dave :) this looks like a good set up. I usually camp out in a tent but during the summer this year, was the first time I camped out with a tarp (DD hammocks) so it is always good to see different types. Unfortunately I haven't been out in the woods that I have permission to practice bushcraft in; but I am going to try a deep winter one only this time without a tent :)

[@usandluke]

A friend of my father gave me the Mors Kochanski book about 20 years ago. I have read it cover to cover several times. I dug it out the other night because your videos reminded me of it. It's funny that you have studied it also.

[@cm2acres]

I used the same shelter set up but I used pine bows under my tarp and my wool blanket on top. It kept me dry in a Florida server thunder storm. Plus it was easy to sit there and collect all the rain water coming off it. LOL

[@717UT]

Thanks Dave

[@dataphreak]

In the boyscouts we called it a staple tarp setup. Used this in the mountain man course at Cove Creek Scout Res.

[@burgoo64]

I have used this kind of shelter for years in Reenacting. Works really good. I got the idea from Simon Kenton.

[@DavidCanterbury]

Can you PM me a link to the written reference, thanks brother

[@donnya1000]

Great discussion!

[@PrepItForward]

Great set up Dave. Thanks for the list of authors should make for some good reading. Should help make the next 12 months down range go a little faster. Thanks again brother, Merry Christmas!

[@RatdogDRB]

I like this set-up a lot. Another use would be to have the folded over portion of the floor as a wind-break/rain protection (additional layer) while wrapped up in your main wool blanket. Stake it at the feet, and pull it up and over you. Very nice.

[@flyn4line]

I met a gentleman who camped this way bout 5yrs ago. He used a 8x6 gry/brown tarp. He staked down on the 6" side move to the next grommet and stake it. Then taking 2 sticks lashed in a "X" bring the tarp around the X tightly. take cordage and guy line off the 2 top points of the X and stake out. Makes a 2x2x6 tube. Some leaf debri on the ends and its fairly sealed. Open flap to let air in or close it to trap body heat. Could do the same with a 8x8 and have room for your gear too.

[@Patriot36]

Neat set-up Dave and it looked like it stayed pretty dry in your follow up vid. On a side note, Otzi's remains are about 5300 years old. It only caught my attention because of some cooper and bronze tool research from a few years ago.

[@FacetsOfTruth]

You just gave me a great idea. It would be great if you could find a place where there were 4 trees in a square that you could use to lift the bottom of the tarp up off the ground on all four corners (instead of staking them to the ground). That way, you could still have the 'overhang' but the bed would be lifted up off the ground a bit (like a hammock), but more flat. It would be a 'Raised Tarp Bed'.

[@abitofthisabitofthatwithda5379]

that setup is one of the better one's you have done. make the most seance i think. luv the vid, they're all good.

[@DavidJelsmaBanjo]

Great shelter!

[@RedEyedJack]

You can also use the folded in flap on the bottom as a sleeping bag. Just lay in the wool blanket and fold the tarp over top of yourself

[@michaelcarter8209]

Outstanding

[@meelas010]

i've used this tarp setup before. i've also used a simmilar one where i close up the sides completley and keep the ends open.

[@BruceNitroxpro]

Two of these shelters pitched face to face with a little over hang to suit the wind direction would be awesome. Even better with a strip of plastic to go down the middle to complete a "floor" for your gear. Mmmmm but the ends are still open, so it gives you one more thing to design... minimalist end flaps of some sort for really cold weather. All that flexibility, too. You could pitch it so many ways.

[@shanebowie5704]

Thank you

[@JoeOsChannel]

Another good video, keep them coming :)

[@edmundmeinhardt2909]

Hi, Dave. Love your videos, love Bushcraft 101 and would like to do some more reading. Can you post a list of those authors somewhere? Like maybe the description for this video? I'm guessing at the spelling of names, and that's never good. Francis Cheeley? Anyway, I've found lots of material thanks to your list, but would be grateful for a helping hand with spelling. You've been a big help to me already. Thanks so much.

[@MikeBius]

Awesome book is "On Your Own in the Wilderness" by Colonel Townsend Whelen

[@dracobushcraft3523]

Thanks for the ideas Dave. I would like to hear your thoughts on a tube type configuration. For my search and rescue training we have to do a night out in the MI winter with just a tarp and a space blanket. No fire allowed. So I know I will want a complete cover to hold as much heat in as possible. Your thoughts are really appreciated.

[@bishop5606]

Dang good idea!!

[@struug]

Great video Dave. DD Hammocks calls it a C fly. they have a page with some good tarp set up ideas.

[@preparedsurvivalist2245]

When my garage door is open and its raining, the droplets splash inward a solid two feet. Let's not even factor in the wind blowing the rain under the shelter onto you. Just the splash back alone would be enough to get you thoroughly wet after a good downpour.

[@danielblanchard6487]

Thanks

[@EatCarbs]

Nice! I like that shelter. What would you do if the wind changed and blew rain into the sides? Would you get up and move? Thanks for the video

[@MrThompsonMW]

I use kisser buttons to give the line a way to shed the water before it enters the shelter.

[@munchh2007]

Another great video Dave, great list of authors too, I must ask, where do you get your shirts? Have a great Christmas.

[@AlaskanFrontier1]

Bushcraft the book is a superb book for Alaska but in general has many good examples in it. he also has a youtube Karamat and he has shown his recommended books on some of his vids Matthew

[@mikeinajeep]

I use a similar setup but use a 8x12 tarp with more roof, then i put one end really close to a large tree.

[@WhyamIstillwatchingyoutube]

I was thinking if you took the 4 foot flap and lifted it straight up to the inside of the "roof" it would keep rain out from the front as well. Attached with snaps or whatever. Thanks Dave.

[@williamdougherty3150]

Is that the bull pac in the background and if it is what straps or changes have you made? Great videos love all the info I learn, thanks.

[@6BrianB]

Panther Primitives have been making the Panther Pack for years, same thing only not oiled. It has a bag on the bottom for browse.

[@livingsurvival]

Thanks for sharing ;)-

[@themoodybobby1]

call it the stss Single tarp shanty shelter. Good history lesson

[@ronharrisonii6665]

Great info. I am making a canvas oil skin tarp, do you have any suggestions on what the tie loops should be made of and how far apart they should be. Thanks!

[@Thelonelyscavenger]

I have a similar tarp setup, but mine is more geared towards the north western boreal.

[@dougallen7890]

This design would better suit the super shelter, more square, less room to heat, smaller fire. Gotta give that a try next cold spell. Thanks Dave. Maybe muzzle season at deer camp?

[@vincentroberts5439]

Really great idea with that tarp design. What was the link for it?

[@elpadrino1024]

Hey Dave thanks for the vid. If you could only bring one size of bank line with you to accompany some paracord what size would you recommend? Thanks brother

[@survival919]

hey Dave nice pack frame in the back! Did you die those straps yourself? I have some natural strapping material for mine on the way soon. Thanks for the video. I like the tarp set up.

[@bomarc43]

Interesting idea. At first I thought you were gonna take the extra 2 feet of tarp on the ground and toggle them to the loops on the overhang portion to give an extra wall for better protection from wind and blowing rain. But with this idea you lose the capability of the built-in browse bed of course. But nonetheless awesome idea, Dave.

[@brorolsson6903]

You said something about nesmuk "self feeding fire" in your blackpowder video can you make a video on that? Thanks fore sharing anyway! :)

[@buddylight2191]

What would you build for shelter if it was windy with rain or snow blowing?

[@Billthrasher]

Dave is starting to look more and more like grizzly Adams... and there is no disrespect intended at all.. Loved watching Adams live off the land

[@Driftwoodgeorge]

I agree Dave. I don't know why though mountain men far back as Lewis and Clark's day didn't use a magnifying glass especially out west where they get allot more sun than my area. They had telescopes and binoculars.

[@DavidCanterbury]

They did brother, it may not be documented well, but they used burning lenses to light tobacco often, I am sure they lit fires as well-

[@AlaskanFrontier1]

@Dave Just remember this isnt traditional bushcraft AKA wilderness living. tradition bushcrafters dont bring shelter, food, and sometimes water but rather they bring the gear necessary to procure these thing i.e. guns to get food, axes and knives to build shelter, etc. Matthew

[@DavidCanterbury]

JMHO but I would think a Temporary Shelter or Micro Climate would be part of any good kit until a better shelter could be effected. As far as the rest I totally agree

[@rule413]

How do you prevent being attacked by predators in this type of shelter??? I know four thin walls will not keep anything out that wants in....but man I sleep better! Please make me believe it's all good. Thank you for your research and instructions.

[@richardhummell2497]

Hi Dave! Great Video! Great tarp setup. About those authors. I bet you a doughnut to a dime they learned their craft from others who learned their craft from the Amerindians. As the 18th century Long Hunters or as we called them the Longue Carabine made friends or were captured hunting in the Mohawk lands, were enslaved by the Mohawk, taught the Mohawk ways and language and eventually were made blood brothers with the Mohawk who captured him and therefore became a member of his family. Because a white man would give a better deal to another white man, he would bargain for the benefit of the tribe. They would usually marry a member of the tribe and settle with the tribe until they would get itchy feet and set out on his own with his wife and kids and set up a trapping/hunting station or move into a fort as a scout/hunter. Later he would take on either a young long hunter wannabe as an apprentice . He would then teach him all the tricks and tips he learned from the Mohawks and the info was passed on. I told two friends and they told two friends and so on and so on. And Voila! you now have Your G.W. Sears or Nesmuck. I learned the 10 Cs from my Grandmother who was 1/2 French Canadian and 1/2 Mohawk called Metis and she was in her 70s when she taught me. Just something to think on. Keep on keeping on, Brother Rick

[@GunPowderReign]

how do you keep the wind out , use a extra tarp or fold it a certain way

[@DavidCanterbury]

Drop the pitch

[@mpolito]

Kephart's books are available on Google play for free. And speaking of Kephart ... What is your medicine? He carried a tea cup. What in your kit is a non essential that you always carry?

[@ffemt602]

In your opinion...would The 5 C's be a good starting point to get my kids started in hiking/camping/survival/bushcraft. I've been trying to find some info on beginner kits for kids but haven't found anything. I figured that a small, easy to use 5 C's kit would be a good place to start when we do day hikes and eventually overnighters.

[@DavidCanterbury]

I think it is the best place to start, get them something to sleep comfortable this will make their first experiences better, then get them the other 4 C's that are quality but expendable, The new Mora with Built in Ferro Rods work great for Kids and come in Orange-

[@ffemt602]

Thanks. The knife has been the biggest challenge for me. I've been looking at the Mora with the extended finger guard just to be on the safe side while he's learning.

[@wallaceknifeworkshomestead]

I have tried the open front type shelters similar to this several times in the past,but I cannot keep blowing rain out,not hurricane wind mind you but just a light wind.They look cool,but sure dont work for me.

[@DavidCanterbury]

This would not be my choice for driving rain nor heavy snow, for light rain dropping the pitch creates a Tube tent

[@icryostorm3727]

make the tarp lower giving you more tarp to play with . by that i mean make the pitch lesser but keeping the same air space - or the reverse of a higher pitch if there is less wind.

[@wallaceknifeworkshomestead]

i Cryostorm Ill try it, I have the best results with a classic A-frame on a ridge line. I do like that tarp,very nice.

[@KimberRUEDGER]

Hey Dave, what's that shirt you are wearing?

[@way10c]

Hey Dave, Could you print those names when you have a spare moment? In particular, I don't know how to spell Cheelee. Thanks, --Allen .

[@flyndutchmn]

the Dude abides!

[@jodajean1]

Well stated, the convenient to the renewable.

[@lustingforminervaandgela3596]

and i thank you too

[@deanncindyfortino7588]

I have a feeling life was better for them back then , than it is for us. Even tho lifespan was shorter, it must have been fuller .

[@nuetrong2]

This is called the c-fly wedge or c-fly roof

[@CrittersCanoeing]

Panther Primitives sells something alone this line. You can find it on page 55 of their pdf catalog. It is a little different but also less versitile. www.pantherprimitives.com/

[@Solocat1]

Dont forget, Samuel Hearne and John Rae Hudson Bay fur trader era builders of Canada.

[@sh1701-A]

What would you tell us if you had a Dog with you while out in the wilderness?

[@DavidCanterbury]

Bring extra food

[@RealRickyRoss]

***** LOL

[@mickeyauthement6898]

Fatten him up before you head out with him. He may end up being a meal LOLOL