OLD STEAM POWERED MACHINE SHOP 13 Making some gears

[@rogueart7706]

Happy new year David Richards I want to thank you from the bottom of heart for the inspiration. It was you that got me into machining and making steam engines. Well…my father is the master mechanic so I must give him some credit too. Your shop is what I hope heaven is like. These videos have kept me alive for many years now. God bless you and your beautiful shop. ⚡️

[@davidrichards5594]

Thanks for the kind words, I guess we both have learned a thing or two.....Dave

[@lyntonr6188]

'' there are plenty of ways to screw this up '' most accurate comment made in a machine shop! excellent video David.

[@davidrichards5594]

More ways to screw it up, than to fix the screw up LOL...dave

[@jrkorman]

That's what I liked about the way my Dad taught me stuff! How to do it right, and ways I could do it wrong! And when to stop before you get in over your head!

[@neillsmart213]

Something very special about the sounds in your shop. Belt slap, clock tick and that single piston thumping away in the background. Thank you for bringing this to the internet :)

[@davidrichards5594]

It's what you would have heard if this was 1925 in any shop....Dave

[@michaelguinn5736]

I work at the Chrysler tech center, we found one of those dividing heads that you used for cutting those gears, no one knew what it was used for...thanks for the information....GOD BLESS!!!

[@davidsnyder2000]

Even 6yr later, this information is still valuable. I can’t count how many machine shop videos I’ve watched and never understood how they do the math for cutting gear teeth. The way you explained it Dave, I finally understand. Thank you SO much!

[@tvwears]

Brilliant work David, I can't fathom the amount of work that goes into one of these videos, thanks for making such high quality videos

[@philipallen7659]

Loved the video and the explanation. Dave you are a master . Many years ago I cut gears like this as an apprentice machinist . I love how you said there are 64 ways to screw this up . Boy do I hear that ! Love your videos and your wonderful steam powered shop . Thanks for posting

[@RambozoClown]

Running that fine old mill while wearing an LCD watch is just wrong, Tom. ;) Great video.

[@davidrichards5594]

Yeah, I've got to get on him about that...he sneaks that magnetic dial indicator in there once in a while too, You know how these kids are.....Dave

[@dougankrum3328]

...Thumbs up for you...! This shop reminds me a lot of the Knight Foundry/machine shop out here in California....Sutter Creek, Calaveras County....the had everything running from line shafts and the shafts were turned by water driving a Pelton wheel....Machine shop was fairly large....maybe 25 pieces of powered equipment.....the shop machined most of the castings from Foundry....a lot of brass....Knight was the largest continously operating machine shop/foundry west of Mississippi river....Likely quite a bit of history if you look it up....place was built/operating in the late 1800's....

[@davidrichards5594]

One of many around the country that built and kept things operating, Thanks for the great comment....Dave

[@RickRose]

Best explanation of gear cutting with a dividing head I've seen yet. Thank you!

[@davidrichards5594]

Thanks Rick, explained from one shop guy to another is better than Engineer written.......Dave

[@Revoku]

agreed, the books always leave out important details that were known way back when by everyone, but have been lost due to very few being taught via experience rather than a course, nothing frustrates me more knowing there is a formula out there that can help me do what I want to do, only to not be able to find it, or if I do its been massively over-complicated in a handbook

[@maxk4324]

@@davidrichards5594 As a student of engineering and someone who helps run a student design team, whenever new members ask me how they can improve their skills in engineering design I tell them "First get yourself a copy of Machinery's Handbook. Second, every time you start designing a new part picture starting with the stock material and then use that book to figure out what you would do to get it to perform the function you want so that once you've finished the design you also have a manufacturing plan. Finally, before you take the design to the student machine shop, talk to the machinists on staff there and tell them your plan and listen carefully when they explain why it sucks. Only when you have a feasible manufacturing strategy is your job as the designer complete." A lot of people I know feel that this slows down the design process too much to which I respond "No, but having to redesign a whole sub assembly because someone didn't know the dimensional restrictions of the lathes we have access to does slow us down."

[@gregrayner963]

Hi Dave....From someone who has spent the last fifty years working with steam in just about all it's forms from a ship where every piece of auxiliary machinery was reciprocating from big oil pumps with a 18" piston to anchor and capstan winches and feed pumps your video's are a breath of fresh air...

[@1000186ful]

I didnt know you could cut keyways with a press thats cool. I really enjoy your videos there very informational I wish I could come learn from you in person your shop is amazing and your great teacher

[@mauricelevy9027]

Excellent instructive video David .I hadn't seen this one before,Thanks

[@garytodd5605]

That type of work is hard. Especially for an old man. Im qualified to make that statement. I'm old and still at it also. Just not as fast as i once was. Great job. Wonderful old equipment.

[@danielkeirsteadsr6939]

I am looking forward to more videos of your steam eng build. The first time i saw a steam train i was 5yrs old, my Auntie had me , giving mother a break. It was the Providence, RI to New Haven,CT. about 1955 Her back yard in Madison,CT. ended at the tracks. She took me by the hand ,said, " c'mon the train will be passing any minute i want you to see it". I never seen one before. I saw a head light in the distance saw a lot of smoke n steam, it got big n loud n shook the ground, i ran like hell back to the back door. Auntie waved and the Engineer waved back. The next time i screwed up enough courage to stay and he waved to me. After that i was hooked an steam Trains .2yrs later it was gone, I never forgot.

[@not2fast4u2c]

I really enjoy all the moving parts in the shop ..Even the Oiler dripping on the cutter !!!

[@lewiemcneely9143]

Yeah, and the clock ticking when all is quiet.

[@gerilarryogle970]

David, Thanks for the video. I am just learning machining. All of the techniques and processes are the same for 1980's mills and lathes as for yours. Can't believe what could be done with the 1800's equipment and how sophisticated the machines were. You get very good results. Love your explanations of how your approach the projects. Great work. Thanks, Larry.

[@davidrichards5594]

Well...1800's equipment built the 1900's equipment...glad you're in the loop....Dave

[@timstockdale910]

Excellent watching real engineers, thank you. Congratulations on a well organised, clean workshop.

[@Rankaisija867]

Your machine shop is probably the coolest thing ever!

[@tracynation239]

A superb video. ♡ T.E.N.

[@greenopage2069]

I am fasinated by your channel. I have always loved to watch machinests at work and what makes it even better is the fact that you are doing it with steam power. thank for sharing this with us.

[@davidrichards5594]

Thanks for watching, glad you're along...Dave

[@neptune5678]

Thanks David for all of you videos. I especially appreciated the logic of the spindle to the lead screw for calculating what gears to select for a given thread pitch. I also love everything about you shop. Very impressed with the boiler and the OS 5x5 engine. They can do it all. Love your teaching style. I am 75 years old and spent the first half of my career as a technical writer, I know good instruction when I see it. You are a real pro. I look forward to many more of you fine videos. Thanks again. Be Well.

[@davidrichards5594]

Thanks for the good word....Dave

[@Beverlys-Hillbilly]

Wow! A lot of math to be a good machinist. Very instructional. Thank you.

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Very nicely done. Thank you fro sharing.

[@davidrichards5594]

Thanks Randy, same here...Dave

[@PhillyRacer121]

its everything I could ever ask for! old iron and rusty old machines! I'm 2 days into watching your videos and loving every minute! keep it up!!!!!

[@joemiller5110]

I can't get enough of this "old machine shop " style of work. Your videos are greatly appreciated! Thanks Joe

[@davidrichards5594]

Well great Joe, glad you are on board.....Dave

[@gregsadkins]

Best explanation of dividing head setup and plate selection. Thank you for this channel!

[@inspctrgadget1970]

I find it very refreshing to watch old machines still doing the job. Thanks for sharing

[@gloriastanley5232]

You should be made a national treasure! I admire your talent and work ethic and appreciate you have dedicate so much to the trade. The machinery is amazing. It boggles my mind that someone had to design and build all that back in the day. I'm not a machinist, so I am learning a lot from your videos. First time I saw a key way broached. It's even better that you have video skills to go along with your shop skills!

[@davidrichards5594]

Thanks very much Gloria, most machinery like this was invented, designed by trial and error, patented and and manufactured before there were automobiles or electric lights. I learn something of their history every time I run one. Thanks for watching....Dave

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

An 1885 mill....awesome! If I am ever up that way....would love to stop by and shake your hand~ Richard

[@MrUltraworld]

In the late 70's, I apprenticed in a shop very similar to this one. The drive shaft was powered by an electric motor, but steam was used up until the early 70's. It was a very efficient shop. This video brings back fond memories.

[@davidrichards5594]

Great comment Fred....Dave

[@Wa3ypx]

Havent seen you since the old SNL days!

[@peteip2080]

Enjoyed the video Dave. Patience wins out when removing seized parts. Watching work in your shop is relaxing, maybe not for you, but it is quite mesmerising to watch. Cheers Peter

[@5x535]

Great video! By far the best explanation I have ever heard about how the math works in laying out a gear. Thank you

[@kj4unxpondosinatra937]

Other great video. I am not a machinist. But I have been interested in the trade for over 25 years. Since a place where I once worked let me do some very very simple stuff on a mill and lathe. I am just in awe at the stuff you do on these great old machines. Great job on the gears. And I can't wait to see more work on the steam crank.

[@davidrichards5594]

I'm formulating a plan on the crank and will get going on it as soon as I get some other small work out of the way. Thanks very much for the comment noel....Dave

[@thomasjake3920]

It's always a treat to see another video from you. Thanks David!

[@TomChame]

Beautiful!!!!! Great explanation of the DH setup, thanks!

[@yannkitson116]

Great work and it was nice to see that you didn't just buy one. Thanks for sharing,

[@Nxt_Level_Films]

So informative!! I love watching these videos it makes me want to through the 3 phase out the window and convert to steam power!

[@MegaChekov]

Live for ever friend wonderful shop the power of steam the old timers new much Thanks for sharing all the best from John in Texas

[@davidrichards5594]

Thanks for the kind words John...Dave

[@stevengrotte2987]

This show is great, I don't see myself ever having a machine shop or even a turning lathe. I understand that my Grand Father who died in 1943 was a mechanic/blacksmith, he may have been a machinist also, this was in North Dakota.

[@davidrichards5594]

Thanks for the comment Steve, that would have put your grandfather right in the prime of his working life at about 1900 and as a mechanic, right in the middle of the big farming machinery, railroad, building & industrial boom....Dave

[@BValeri52]

Master can tour drive to show these beautiful Antiques. A pleasure to watch.

[@davidrichards5594]

I am very glad you enjoyed it....Dave

[@oldmobilefarm5637]

This channel is incredible for me it’s therapy for my mind my brain seems to slow down and the problems that are going on seems to fade and I have actually learned something keep up your incredible work.

[@christopherruble3913]

From a sixty year old machinist who trained in the mid to late 70's, and being a trained historian, it is refreshing to see how my great grandfather would have done it in the 1880's.

[@BuildSomthingCool]

I really enjoy watch you work in your shop. Keep the videos coming.

[@davidrichards5594]

Thanks Dale, I enjoy your tips & tricks, some really save time & effort...Dave

[@AppleJax_S]

I know nothing about working with steam but I do know machining and I can tell that what you do takes skill. Really an interesting way to machine.

[@TobiasStevens137]

There's some impressive skills and passion for steam involved in this.. i would have loved to see a large late 19th century production line or anything related. You give us an amazing insight of what it was back in the days. must be great to do this kind of work with the vapor of burning wood and hot oil around

[@ronkoshik4205]

I am a machinist with over 20 years experience, on conventional lathes, horizontal and vertical milling machines, and also CNC lathes and mills. For the last 15 years or so I have been doing mostly lathe work, CNC and conventional. I also program the CNC lathes. I am the only guy in my shop who does the lathe work. I can make a square part out of round stock on the lathe LOL. Years ago I had an old Atlas 6X18 lathe and wanted a 4 position toolholder, so I made one, on the Atlas lathe. I love these old belt driven machines. Not much has changed over the years as far as conventional machines goes, with the exception of the tooling and the time it takes to do a certain operation. I can grind a HSS tool bit by hand no problem but these days we use carbide inserts on most of our cutting tools. I noticed that everything seems to be slower and take longer than the same operations in a modern shop. I have a few questions... How long did it take to mill the teeth on that gear? Did you slow down the speeds and feeds for these videos or is this normal speeds and feeds for these old machines? Everything seems so slow, but then again I am used to high speed machining.

[@davidrichards5594]

very slow, 7 passes per tooth...Dave

[@Surfacesofie]

Hi there Dave, I love your videos and shop. Thank you very much for posting. Dave

[@DrakkarCalethiel]

This shop is just pure awesomeness! First because it's vintage and second because it's freaking steam-powered! Just love old machinery!

[@ofujuncky]

Fun to see how that old Mill ran! My Father left me a very old Cincinnati Horizontal mill! I believe it once was a line shaft machine. has a huge very old three phrasse motor motor that power if now. Wish I could find out more about it.

[@dlstanf2]

the sights & sounds of your shop makes it alive with the soul of the men that run it. great job!

[@BasementShopGuy]

Loved it. something SO soothing about the steam engine shop.

[@davidrichards5594]

As long as things are running straight..Dave

[@ShevillMathers]

Just fascinating to see how it was done and people actually learnt skills and knew how and why things worked and were made instead of just store bought. A great series to watch, beats TV. Thanks for sharing 😀

[@idioms1]

another great update ,the sound and smell in your shop must be fantastic.

[@goldeee666]

pretty nice work dave. you got a good assistant too. easy to comprehend explanations. many thanks. I watch for hours. Its century old technology but people for the most part dont understand the principles involved are timeless

[@davidrichards5594]

Thanks for your interest in old technology. I guess it's about building things

[@goldeee666]

I agree. building things, repairing things, preserving things to pass on to future generations to build on whats been accomplished by those before us

[@colliecandle]

In these uncertain times, steam will rule again - all you need now is a Stones generator for your steam powered lighting ! Most enjoyable video. Thank you for sharing your art with us. All the best to you and your apprentice, from Dorset county, England.

[@davidrichards5594]

I keep thinking you may be right.....Dave

[@Conlan0215]

Jeez, I can't imagine the force that crank must have experienced to twist it like that... Love to see things coming along! Keep em' coming!

[@davidrichards5594]

Yeah, and the twisted keyway didn't help the gear removal....Dave

[@bulletproofpepper2]

Beautiful machines, great work and excellent video. A nice new part. Steam engine work too. Thank for sharing.

[@davidrichards5594]

Thanks Sam.

[@ericsnyder1647]

A fellow restorer told me about his trick. After heating a item, take a candle and melt around the shaft. It is like flux and solder. The wax gets sucked in. Let it sit. Then alot less force is needed to pull an item off. Sometimes I have had items slide off with just pulling with hands. Not to many though. Also the shop gets a orange or cinnamon smell from the candles. The wife uses candle tarts. When the wax loses its aroma. She lets it cool, then gives them to me. I keep a box of them in the shop.

[@davidrichards5594]

Good trick...Dave

[@jerrybungard7107]

I have used that technique and it seems to work best with beeswax

[@mrkhokhar4895]

Good day david , i like yr workshop the best in the work have every thing and driven by steam engine , love to see it

[@juanrivero8]

That is a wonderful video. I loved that old lever type "dial" indicator! It is wonderful to see that old mill chew through a gear blank, steam powered, not to mention the lathe turning the blanks. You are so right, gear cutting provides more ways to screw up than any other aspect of machining that I know. You can miscalculate the diameter or the number of holes. You can forget to lock up the dividing head, or to unlock it. You can set the sector arms incorrectly and on and on. Done all of the above! But you got a perfect gear!

[@davidrichards5594]

Thanks Juan, First two came out good, one more to go...Dave

[@constitutionalUSA]

I went to se that steam show up there a few years back and enjoyed it a lot!

[@kirstenjones2085]

Thank you Dave .I really enjoy your videos.

[@ClassXIRoads]

Dave, What a treat, get home from working as an apprentice machinist (at age of 62 ) and get to watch another one of you very well edited and informative videos. The lesson on gear calculations was one of my toughest ones and the chance that I'll ever use them in the shop I am in is slim to none. Man that shaft must of really taken a shock to twist that key-way that much, not much more and it would snapped off. Looking forward to your next clip.

[@davidrichards5594]

Some day James, you will get the call: "Does anybody here know how to make a gear?"......be ready....Dave

[@leeklemetti1887]

If you consider that the math needed is complicated, and someone had to figure it all out sometime, and look at how long go it was done astounds me. This is a great education. I gotta watch this one several times!

[@MrGeroth]

Dave that was awesome. A machinist back in the day needed a lot of math. That's for the video and keep them coming.

[@davidrichards5594]

Thanks for the comment, glad you liked it...Dave

[@lewiemcneely9143]

Hey Dave! Glad you had a good trip and are back in the steam powered saddle. I know what you mean about a bent shaft. Years ago I was making one Gravely tractor out of two when I pulled the main driveshaft out of it. This shaft had three sets of splines. The first was for the hi-lo planetary, the next was the fwd-rev. planetary and the last set was for a jaw clutch that kicked the p.t.o. in and out. All THREE sets of splines were bent! Looking into it further, a quill shaft bold had worked loose and dropped straight into the gears. The machine was humming, probably mowing or bush hogging and the bolt just locked it down solid. I wish I kept the shaft but it was shot but would've made a fine conversation piece. Looking forward to your next one!

[@davidrichards5594]

Probably mad a big KA BLAM...Dave

[@lewiemcneely9143]

David Richards I'd say! Just gtlad it didn't happen to me. I don't like loud noises, especiallky while I'm ahold of them!

[@jhorne18]

These videos are not only nothing short of fascinating but provide a valuable historical perspective on technology. What is interesting about this one is raising the question, "can a machine shop reproduce itself?" (self-replication, John von Neumann, etc.) Such is similar to the ones raised in computer science whether the computing machine reproduce itself. Of course, there are deep philosophical implications with the answer. It seems that each piece of the machine tool could be made by Dave''s machine shop. The only question concerns the housings but I suspect these as frames could be machined, as well.

[@davidrichards5594]

Can it replace itself? Of course. And as long as the DEC and EPA allow a few foundries to exist, like Cattail, we will have castings. Thanks for the comment Jeremy....Dave

[@WeaponsMachinist]

Awesome! Pulling the gear was a job. Cutting gears was a breeze. The twist flute key way looks sheared. 10/16 worm ratio 1:40😁

[@RustyOldF250]

Very neat! I don't know much about machine work, but know a good deal when I see it, and a Cincinnati No. 2 horizontal mill followed me home recently. The more I learn about it the more I'm amazed at what can be done on one. I'd love to volunteer for your grunt work, but I'm in Seattle... But if I'm ever in NY I'll get ahold of you!

[@eastvanmedman]

Thanks David! It is good to know that your shop is out there steaming along! hello from Vancouver Canada!

[@davidrichards5594]

Great to hear from Vancouver..Thanks...Dave

[@eastvanmedman]

I like the fact you are using a steam engine to restore a steam engine because soon we will have robots building more robots.

[@robertmccracken72]

I always enjoy the commentary, thanks for the very detailed explanation of how to calculate gear pitch and diameter. We are all to spoiled by apps on our tablets and phones, its good to see how the math is done!!! Keep up the good work, and keep the fire hot!!!

[@arkansas1313]

Great content regarding gear cutting and a great teacher! Awesome shop from yesteryear, love it! Keep the steam up!!!!!!!!!! Thanks ....13

[@johnthomason4571]

Just a suggestion, I'm a 40 year + retired mechanic. I learned to lubricate my puller pressure screws with anti-seize lubricant. It makes pulling easier and prevents thread galling. Just saying.

[@davidrichards5594]

Excellent idea, I got carried away with success and forgot to oil the screw....Dave

[@artemiasalina1860]

Wow, that twisted crankshaft was something. Must have be a powerful little engine to do that.

[@davidrichards5594]

A lot of momentum built up in heavy parts when something probably jammed up....Dave

[@AmateurRedneckWorkshop]

Enjoyed the gear cutting. Of course not getting any chips on my fingers made it better. keep on keeping on.

[@davidrichards5594]

Getting dirty isn't too hard to do in this shop....dave

[@k5at]

Thanks for sharing, Dave. Always enjoy your videos.

[@davidrichards5594]

Thanks Herb, same here....Dave

[@paulduffey7975]

First time viewer. I like the shop. I enjoy watching old equipment work. Thank you.

[@davidrichards5594]

Thanks for taking the time to comment Paul, welcome aboard....Dave

[@danny117hd]

I'm so glad the impact wrench was invented

[@daltonmego3541]

they just ruin the puller threads

[@jdhorton1432]

Wow! Fascinating machinery & machining!! Thanks for taking time to explain things! As a 1st-timer, that helped great deal!!

[@johnkinnane547]

G'day David and Tom I always wanted to know our a gear was machined and thank you for showing us and explaining the process. I think a quick course in maths and fractions wouldn't go amiss! Look forward as always to the next one regards John

[@davidrichards5594]

Hi John, seems like it always comes down to fractions in old American shops....Dave

[@jimosborn4000]

Great video. Love seeing the old machines. And the formula for the gears was great info.

[@dineshmk250]

Thank you so much mr.david for sharing this wonderful information to us and keep doing sir...

[@phooesnax]

Great stuff. Glad you took time to record an already complicated job.

[@joshward7896]

My teacher used to say that the flat belts said "kill the indians" over and over. Great videos! I used to have a 1910 B&S universal mill with the single arm. I still have a Van Norman Dividing head...quality stuff! I replaced the 1910 mill with a brand new 1935 number 2 universal B&S mill with the 2 rams. (:

[@gwood64]

2 thumbs up again Dave. I'm still amazed that what looks to be such a small engine is powerful enough to run the whole shop. Look forward to the next video.

[@scorinth]

To be fair, he seems to only use one machine at a time. If there were multiple operations going on at once, power requirements would increase quite rapidly.

[@gwood64]

In video 6 he has the shaper and lathe running at the same time. Didn't seem to be any lack of power then.

[@davidrichards5594]

Well actually, I can run both lathes, the shaper, drill press, and milling machine all at once in a cut and the engine won't sound much different than it does running just the shaft. It's overkill for what I have here even at only 60psi. The boiler was built to operate at more than twice that pressure. ...Dave

[@scorinth]

David Richards Well, I stand corrected. I guess this means all the small stationary steam engines that I thought would run a workshop were actually for whole factories. Wow!

[@tedsykora1858]

I find it amazing that there was enough force on that shaft and keyway that it would twist yet not break. good and tough metal in that shaft. as to the 64 chances to screw up; made more likely because you were doing commentary at the same time

[@davidrichards5594]

That;s why Tom did the second one, he has much better concentration....Dave

[@janvanruth3485]

great explanation on the dividinghead

[@w4447]

This was a really really great video. Thanks Dave

[@tomherd4179]

Super informative and I love the shop and the tools you use!

[@davidrichards5594]

Thanks Tom. I see you are into hit&miss engines. I have a 7 1/2 Economy cylinder to bore and sleeve in the steam shop when I get back to NY in April.....Dave

[@KC9UDX]

You have that beautiful shaper and you're broaching in a press!

[@TheMadawg67]

what a great vid seeing the old steam powered shop made me feel young

[@aaronjohnmaughan]

With the keyway twisted around like that, it's easy to understand why the gear was so stubborn to press off. You'd think the gear would bear a scar from the incident.

[@jefferyedwards5003]

Excellent craftsmanship

[@dananelson3534]

It's funny, people don't know how to do simple math anymore. I know what a dividing head is, but have never used one. Thanks for showing us how it was done.

[@davidrichards5594]

Dana, Yeah, it just comes down to fractions, decimals and some very basic algebra....Dave

[@haroldzavakos589]

great video I did the same thing on the same kind of machine about 45 years ago

[@davidrichards5594]

A true machinist, Thanks Harold....Dave

[@alexsterling5186]

Love the video Dave. Really nice to see that the old school way of doing things works just as good as our fancy new technology. Keep the great videos coming!

[@davidrichards5594]

Thanks Alex, The only thing we don't have here is "speed"....Dave

[@carolynatkinson9553]

very skilled true engineers thank you

[@PeckerBrown]

"Mundy" morning...I see what you did there. Cool series, cool channel. Thank you for doing it.

[@wiav8r]

Even with all running , it doesnt sound too loud. Great video! I am a new subscriber!

[@davidrichards5594]

Thanks Allan. If it gets loud, something's about to go "South".....Dave

[@tinwizard6447]

Just found your channel recently and am really enjoying your progress with this engine. Loved your popping that crank apart. looking forward to your fix on it. I just imagine myself spending hours on that gear to end up 1/2 a tooth off!

[@davidrichards5594]

Thanks, glad you're with us on on it....Dave