Festool HKC circular saw | review | dave stanton | wood working

[@russellparker2341]

Can I just say this is the best review/demo I've seen for a festool product on you tube, good job!

[@DavidStanton]

+Russell Parker Wow Russell, I'm blushing! Thanks for the comment, please share the video around.

[@AndrewMorgan666]

Hi, have been thinking of getting one of these, but was a bit confused about all that festool had available, so thank you for making things a lot clearer, especially the letters and their importance, this has brought me nearer to making that purchase of the hsk, thank you.

[@DavidStanton]

Glad it was helpful!

[@robertnorth1462]

EXCELLENT video! I just bought the HK 55 EQ with the FKS 420 track, and as incredible as Festool is, their instructions leave a little bit to be desired! Your video just shortened my learning curve considerably!!!

[@DavidStanton]

Glad it was helpful!

[@npet6842]

Reading Festool's manuals isn't much fun . A quality video presentation like this is the way to go ! I've the Kapex 120reb and TS60 with FS and FSK tracks on a MFT3 , for which videos are wonderful .

[@henrysiegertsz8204]

Thanks David, very much enjoyed that, brilliantly informative video. I bought a new HK 85 yesterday for a big job when I get home, (I work in the Middle East). I didn't buy the rails though as I got my saw for a bargain and spent what I saved on better materials for the job. Loft Ladders and 70 sqm of P5 T&G Flooring. I have Trend Guide Clamps, which will work perfectly for this purpose. I now don't even have to glance at the instruction book after watching this. This is my first Festool purchase, but the Cross-Cut Track and some Parallel Track are on the for sure list later on. Liked and subscribed to this little gem of a channel you have!!!

[@DavidStanton]

Thanks for the compliment and the sub!!

[@Essdubbya]

Thanks Dave great review. I bought mine after returning a well-known brand which had the blade mounted to the left of the saw. Very strange. I should have known better. Call it an aberration. The features and the fact that I can use the ts55 blades make the saw more than good value. It is less than double the price of the alternatives. That's remarkable for festool. I'll be using it to replace roof timbers and trim safely and without the need of tradies/handymen who would be more expensive than the saw. Besides it's more fun doing it yourself.

[@DavidStanton]

Well done. Hope it goes well for you!

[@jb8656]

Just exactly what I was looking for thank very much , I have one those cross cut Festool hkc 55 as well haven’t use it yet , but I’m very excited to put hand on it ,

[@johnflanagan3916]

Brilliant Dave I needed to see the saws capabilities 👍

[@DavidStanton]

Glad I could help.

[@antzanton4842]

Hi Dav ,love this saw had one for about 6 months but still learned a trick of your video The thing is Festools has lack of variety in cordless tools , so you need to carry 2 brands of tool 2 chargers different batteries etc which is ok in a work shop but dose become a real pain if your on the job . Love your work cheers Antz

[@DavidStanton]

Thanks Antz! I hear what you are saying in regard to battery tools.

[@markjarman7819]

I’m in the market for one of them and yet again Dave comes up trumps😊 sold👍

[@MrGinocon]

Roofing and Decking contractors will love this.

[@DavidStanton]

+MrGinocon I wish this machine was available 35 years ago when I was a decking contractor.

[@arthurrice3915]

Excellent video sir. I have since purchased this saw to add to my Festool obsession / I mean collection. I was able to sell my enormous space hogging compound sliding miter saw and now after a year of owning it. Ive never missed that huge saw. Your videos are inspiring; keep up the great work. Enjoy Thanksgiving tomorrow!

[@DavidStanton]

Glad I could help

[@jeepinon35s]

Just got mine today. I love it

[@Jmanmakes]

Amazing Dave! I've watched about a dozen videos on the official "Festool USA" youtube channel trying to get more info about this saw and all of their videos come up short. Love how you explain all of the festool abbreviations. I've been wondering about swapping blades between ts55 and hkc55; your the only one who addresses it. You just left Serge in the dust!

[@DavidStanton]

Thanks for the compliment and reply Jason.

[@resultcarpentry5869]

Thanks Dave, Watched this again - as I'm gonna get the HK now - a Master Class review - Magic...

[@DavidStanton]

Thanks Gary.

[@bocty1]

thanks mate, you cleared up ALL my questions about this saw and gave me extra knowledge for it. Your video is much better than any of the official festool vids I could find

[@DavidStanton]

+bocty1 glad I could help! Tell your mates about it, might help them as well.

[@mgmrestaurantnanaimo8116]

I have recently been comparing track saws by Festool. This video helped a lot! Thanks. - Canadian Guy

[@DavidStanton]

+MGM Restaurant Nanaimo I am very happy to have helped you in the decision process. Thanks for watching, share the channel around if you like what you see.

[@looopy2u]

Perfect for framing and squaring up long beams. 5.2m beams ain't so easy to handle on a mitre saw. Taking the tool to the job rather than having to take the job to the saw. Great review BTW! Always the right information!

[@DavidStanton]

Thanks for the input looopy2u!

[@kiwdwks]

I see a need for this saw. Thanks for a great review!

[@julienmeklis3709]

Hello, good review, I'm a cabinet maker and of course a Festool fan for most of tools except for circular saw and jig saw. I really prefer Mafell for that. Festool copied Mafell for this HKC55. Mafell developed kss series long time ago and I suppose a pattern protected it. Well I still thank you Festool for their new saws (and approve it) because Mafell is now updating their kss saws.

[@-m4nGo-]

Well, Festool can thank you because this is my next buy. GREAT VIDEO!

[@DavidStanton]

+Giuliano Mango Thanks Guy. Festool gear is the way I went a few years back because it works, simple as that!

[@-m4nGo-]

Do you have the Symmantec 70? Could you pleaaaaase do a review on that one! It seems so perfect to save time for a carpenter like me in sweden! I love your entusiasm in the videos! :D

[@patrickallen5781]

Enjoyed the breakdown of the saws features. Also, great shop you have there.

[@DavidStanton]

+Patrick Allen Thanks Patrick!

[@timcombs4926]

I like David's presentation, very informative.

[@npet6842]

He's three times quicker with the information than Sedge .

[@SimonPEdwards63]

Mate I've got to say I like you reviews

[@DavidStanton]

My pleasure Simon Edwards !

[@elisiotiuba7908]

David, your reviews are great! Thank you

[@DavidStanton]

My pleasure!

[@bryanwilkin9580]

Thanks Dave, I think I could work around those limitations until such a time I can't live without a TS55. Cheers mate ! 😏

[@Pmac-rc7qs]

I got the hkc 55 a year ago or so and it has completely replaced my mitre saw for framing, decking and roofing and I got the hkc 85 few months ago the thing is a beast cuts through 250mm x 75mm timber like a knife through butter they are both unbelievably good. Hardly ever take my mitre saw to work any more which is fine by me hate setting up then having to move to another location. They're worth the money just for convenience and portability over a mitre saw and are just as accurate.

[@DavidStanton]

I am envious of your 85mm. I would love to get one but not available in Australia yet....maybe Festool will release them at the Sydney wood show this weekend. Did you get the dado head as well? By the way, I love my HKC 55!

[@Pmac-rc7qs]

Hi David love the videos , yea the 85 has been out here a while now (Ireland). Its exactly the same as the 55 only heavier with a lot more power 2200 watts. Ripping with the rip blade in it, it doesn't even feel like its cutting glides through timber its a brilliant machine. I haven't got the cutter block yet but will at some stage no doubt. I've seen it in action it would be a lot faster than a router although i do love my of1400 lol.

[@leeostle1872]

Great video Dave, prior to the first time I've watched your video I've bought the hkc55 👍

[@DavidStanton]

+Lee Ostle . I hope the video addresses anything you may have not known about the saw. Thanks for watching!

[@leeostle1872]

+David Stanton it did thank you Dave it's definitely the best tutorial video on KZbin keep it up mate👍

[@jonesconrad1]

great video Dave.

[@DavidStanton]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@nicflik]

Hi David, really enjoying your channel, great stuff. I recently ended up with both the HK85 and 55. now i'm noticing that the 55 does not cut on it's red 0deg indicator that you mention at around 8:00. i don't want to end up with separate tracks for each saw, so am i right in assuming that you can just reset this alignment so your saws match up? cheers and happy new year, Nic

[@DavidStanton]

Hi Nic. I think said that indicator is for use without the track. Not sure that you can adjust. This saw came out before the HK85. Let me know if this has helped you at all.

[@nicflik]

David, after some more research, i've found that not all the saws are perfect out of the factory. but you'd only end up noticing the discrepancy when you start running more than one saw off the same track. i'm reading now that guys do adjust these saws to match the cuts up when using shared tracks. the red indicator should line up with the 90deg cut on both the 85 & 55, with or without a track. I've now dialled in all three of my track saws onto the same line of cut with the recommended toe in. magic! thanks for the help.

[@HansJohanVermeulen]

Thanks for sharing. Very helpfull. I liked it.

[@vorpal7391]

Thanks Dave. Great video! Look forward to the next one.

[@DavidStanton]

+Ryan Jones Thanks Ryan, glad you enjoy them.

[@Kimagur]

As a German, I love your pronunciation ;-) But nevermind - I loved watching your video since it was far more in-depth than any of the German ones out there. That being said, I am still wondering if I should buy this one or the Mafell KSS 50.

[@DavidStanton]

Wow, Thanks Calanas!

[@bradclarke222]

We don't get mafell in aus unfortunately, they seam to amazingly be another level above festool!

[@arfonia]

Great all the info I needed to know, Now I'm going to buy one. Thanks keep up the great Vids. From Nigel UK

[@DavidStanton]

+arfonia Great saw, you won't be sorry!

[@wornmatt]

I have the TS, TSC, and now the HKC Love them all. I occasionally review this demo just to remind myself of it's incredible flexibility in case it's been a while. Appreciate the video, Dave. Per usual.

[@DavidStanton]

Hi Matthew! I am happy for you to keep coming back to it! And thanks again for those diamond sharpening stones. Every time I use them it makes me smile that someone on the other side of the planet was of generous spirit and just put them in a parcel with my name on it!!

[@mattiaswahlborg4605]

Nice and very instructive video. Thank you! Now thinking about which size of FSK to add. The mensioned maximum length of cut, is it at 90 degrees or oblique, 60 degrees if I get it right?

[@DavidStanton]

Glad it was helpful!

[@witnessnz]

great review dave, thanks again

[@DavidStanton]

+Piers Lehmann Thanks for the positive feedback.

[@holgerbitter4268]

I love the way you say "Führungsschiene". Can't stop laughing. Greetings from Germany. Love your videos. Keep on going....

[@DavidStanton]

I'm glad you enjoy my Australian German accent. I am too far off the mark with the pronunciation?

[@DavidStanton]

....am I too far off the mark.

[@DieDoeDa]

+David Stanton Sounds good except at the end where you drop the last character: you say Schien instead of Schiene, listen to www.duden.de/_media_/audio/ID4109510_140129446.mp3

[@DavidStanton]

Thanks for the heads up!

[@peterkiernan1668]

Love the videos, it's guys like you that got me hooked on festool.( not a complaint). Can you tell me if the saw can cut through a 2x4 or 38x89 mm at 45 degrees on the track. I like what the saw can do and how handy it would be. Keep up the good work.cheers David.

[@DavidStanton]

Hi Peter, thanks for the compliment! The saw can only cut 50 mm at 90 degrees when it is on the track. Set your own saw at 50mm deep at 90 and then swing to 45 deg and measure the depth of cut. it will be the same as the HKC55 will do.

[@peterkiernan1668]

David Stanton Hi Dave, I picked up this saw a week back and have to say, I like it a lot. lots of power and easy to handle.We don't have the 85 in Canada, but maybe in the future festool will release it here. Thanks for your review, it played a big part at crunch time to buy the saw. Cheers Dave.

[@SkillBuilder]

I love your workshop. I am depressed now. Mine is a tip

[@DavidStanton]

Hahaha, don't get depressed, get cleaning!

[@codysheridan100]

Thanks for the great video. I am currently looking into either the HK55/85 or a compound mitre saw. I hoped you may be able to shed more light on what may be suitable for me. I do a lot of work around site, so no doubt this will be an excellent tool for that. But I also want the capacity to use it for finer work (windows, doors, furniture). I have a tablesaw with sliding table for shorter cross cuts, but am looking at one of these for larger pieces/cuts. Would you say this might be a better choice for me than a new mitre saw?

[@DavidStanton]

Hi Cody Sheridan! The 85 is heavier but stronger and can also have a dado head fitted.

[@jrichardson6]

Good saw but mines gon on eBay dust collection no good even with vac attached. Back to the ts55r I might consider the tsc I wonder if the dust extraction is better than hkc?

[@DavidStanton]

I use this to improve the dust collection. www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/491750

[@con-f-use]

Wow, bizarrely expensive for two alu rods, a bit of plastic and maybe some foam to seal it. Why not build your own?

[@DavidStanton]

2 aluminium rods? Are you referring to this saw or something else?

[@trevdale7967]

fantastic review thank you

[@DavidStanton]

Keep coming back, subscribe for free for updates.

[@HeavyboxesDIYMaster]

The Festool brand is amazing!

[@DavidStanton]

+Heavyboxes indeed it is.

[@davidtaylor7421]

for the prices they charge they oughta do your work for ya :D

[@DavidStanton]

You always have the option to buy cheaper saws if you want....

[@charliemartin4392]

Greetings from northern Kentucky. I enjoy your content. Could you give this yank your option on the mafell version of this saw.

[@DavidStanton]

Hi Charlie Martin! I haven't used it.

[@davidedmond7806]

this was very helpful my friend

[@DavidStanton]

Thank you David.

[@tiuh79]

nice video, make me want this saw!!! regards from Mexico

[@DavidStanton]

+daniel monroy Thanks Daniel. I am happy you enjoyed it. I might make a shorter video on this saw, what do you think?

[@stevenvachon9745]

Just wondering how this saw does on a small shave cut off a large panel laying flat on a bench. For a right handed person, do you have to cut with the main shoe resting on the piece cutting from left to right or can you cut from right to left? This is something that I do alot.

[@DavidStanton]

From left to right Steven.

[@013rich]

this saw looks awesome! I currently use the ts55 but for site carpentry it does struggle with some tasks so this looks perfect! one thing I love the ts55 for is kitchens, do you reckon this machine can match its neatness and quality of cuts?

[@DavidStanton]

+Rich Drinkwater It probably could but it is not as rugged as the TS 55. It is more cumbersome when using it as a plunge tracksaw due to a couple of steps extra. It will definitely do the job and very well but be aware of the points I raised.

[@013rich]

+David Stanton excellent thanks for you help! keep up the awesome videos, always enjoy watching them!

[@MrTimdtoolman1]

Great video my Man. I really like this saw. I love the idea of getting table saw/miter saw straight cuts every time. The price is the only thing that makes me baulk a bit. I am well aware that you usually get what you pay for. Good work buddy. New sub.

[@DavidStanton]

Thanks Tim!

[@Bradaggan]

I am a finish carpenter only. I haven't framed in years but I still think I can find uses for this saw. Just the other day I got a call from one of my contractors and he needed one piece of crown ripped out and extended a foot to the kitchen cabinets because the layout changed. I was wondering if this could be used for cutting the crown and I could finish off by coping it? Seems like it would work.

[@DavidStanton]

Not sure if I follow totally what your need is but if any circular saw could do this job then this one would be a good choice.

[@Yannis2022]

Interesting about the tracksaw. Do you have a video on your solution for the bench top drill? Is it fixed or placed on a slider board?

[@DavidStanton]

+JN 2013 Have a look here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3_CopyrfJuEY7eIhe drill is stationary but I use the fence with a dimensioned packer in conjunction with t track clamps to hold items in place on the horizontal plane. I can pack the base of the drill press if I need to but, as I state ion the video, that drill is a one trick pony for me.

[@chriseves9250]

great video, great info. Do the pro tool batteries work with this tool

[@DavidStanton]

+Chris Eves Yes, if they are the 18v, 14.4 lithium.

[@chriseves9250]

👍

[@apsuaha]

Thanks for the vid. Is the blade supposed to touch the plastic on the FS 1080?

[@DavidStanton]

Hi Apsu Aha! Yes.

[@JayG2K]

Can i ask a question. I have the TS55 track saw with rails, if I buy the HKC saw will the rail work on it? The first cut on the rail cuts the plastic off the edge. As both the saws with the same offset so it dosn't re-cut the rubber on the rails?

[@DavidStanton]

The HKC can work on the standard tracks. The blade will cut very close to the same point on the splinter guard but I doubt it will be perfect.

[@Golgafrinchamdent]

Does that cutoff rail have a splinter guide which is cut to zero clearance on the first use? Reason I ask is I just got the Mafell version of the saw (KSS-400)... and was suprised to find that the splinter gaurd is already cut about 1/16" shy of the blade. Dealer says that's the design. I can buy an 11' length of replacement rubber splinter gaurd for about $30 but it kinda galls me to have to replace parts on a brand new $950 saw. So does the Festool have this "design" too? Thanks much.

[@DavidStanton]

The splinter guard must be cut by the saw on first use. That is why it is there. I don't understand why Mafell set theirs up the way you have described.

[@Golgafrinchamdent]

Me either... kinda defeats the purpose. I was looking forward to having a perfect 'reference' line with no offset.

[@marcterp7184]

Hey David, how much would a normal handyman benefit from buying this instead of the TS55?.. I know the TS is more of a precission tool... The HKC looks more of a all-rounder?... or?

[@DavidStanton]

+Marc Rasmussen Hi Marc. If I had my time over again and both tools were available to me I would buy the HKC. I found it to be very acurate and the dust extraction can be increased by using the optional dust guard that is designed for the TS55. Battery technology is always improving and with 5.2 amp hour units available and the price dropping I would be happy with power needs from either unit.

[@marcterp7184]

Damnit, hoped you would recommend me buying the TS.. Now Im all confused :-).... Thanks for the answers and great vids... Here all the way from Denmark, Europe.

[@bjorker40]

After watching this ...gotta get one ! Don't think it's in the 2015 catalog though?

[@DavidStanton]

+Grimm Day If you go online to Festool Australia you will see them. It will be a while before you can get one because they are in heavy demand.

[@ranger0577]

I'm hoping this saw becomes available in the USA next year. This saw would replace my table saw, mitre saw and of course my skill saw. Leaving the table saw behind and the generator that runs it is huge. I figure it costs about $900.00 US dollars with the fancy little track. Thanks for the review. I was just about to buy the cordless t-55 to add to my corded one. Now I'll wait for HKC 55

[@DavidStanton]

+ranger0577 It is a great little saw. I have it and the TS-55 and I mostly reach for the HKC because it is so convenient. The States seem to be a little behind with new releases from Festool, maybe because the demand will be so high they need time to get the stock together? Thanks for watching and please share the video around.

[@TheIlJeep]

+ranger0577 This saw will never replace table saw. If you need to cut more of 1 ft long then buy TS-55.

[@bryanwilkin9580]

Dave, first time commentor! Long time stalker! Great vids man! So after twenty odd years of making one off pieces of furniture for friends and clients I am branching out into the Kitchen, Bathroom, Laundry renovation/ Handyman space. I naturally take on small cabinet projects (built in's etc) but also will be taking on making decks, pergolas etc. So I find myself asking will the HK 55 be good enough to match the TS55 for fine cabinetry applications? I see this being a great cross over saw and looking at other you tube vids I reckon with a fine tooth blade the HK just might come close to the TS. Thoughts?

[@DavidStanton]

Hi Bryan. The HK 55 will deliver a very good cut on the rail side of the blade, but not on the other side. Why? Because it doesn't have a splinter guard on the waste side like the TS55 does. Also, the dust extraction is not as good as the Ts55 but can be improved with a cover over the waste side of the blade. One other thing, the HKC is not able to have the speed changed for different materials...not sure about the HK non battery version. I think it would be a fair bet to buy and use for what you say with the limitations I have stated. The decision is yours!!

[@jason-hh6lu]

Dave when you cut the 21 meters, what blade did you use? I used mine last week to cut 47mm x 230mm pressure treated pine cross cuts for floor joists and it struggled like mad. Got through 3 batteries as well. I’m think I’ll try a 12 tooth blade instead of the 18 tooth blade for thicker timber.

[@DavidStanton]

I think it was the rip blade.

[@mkuciel1132]

Hello David, I can with the HKC 55 well shorten interior doors? With the right blade and FS .Greetings from Germany A super video

[@DavidStanton]

You can shorten doors with the HKC. And, it will do a very good job at it. Thank you for your compliment on the video. Greetings from Australia!

[@mkuciel1132]

+David Stanton Thanks for the answer. Working in interior design.

[@georgebredon2632]

Hi Dave Great video! Can you answer the following? The dust bag _ does it fit on a TS55 REBQ? The track that comes with the HKC looks really cool. I know you say that you cannot use the TS55 on it. Does Festool have a version (or plan one) that will work on the TS55?

[@DavidStanton]

+George Bredon I think you can buy an adapter for it. I will have a look for you. I am not aware if Festool are planning a TS55 that would run on the tophat track (FSK) as it would be a bit too heavy. Watch the video again and pay particular attention to when I describe the baseplate of the HKC and how it integrates with the FSK. Glad you enjoy my videos! Spread the news about my little Australian channel.

[@stevenmarshall7118]

Another great and informative review! I have the TSC55 and have found battery life a little disappointing (for the price tag + double battery consumption) but from what you say on the HKC it doesn't seem to be an issue. I have the little Makita Brushless 165mm Circ Saw and find it great, very lightweight and powerful. Would you think that the HKC is worth the $579 (skin-only) price tag here in Aus? From a little play I had in my local store it certainly seems heavier than the little Makita. I'm considering investing more in the Festool line as I only have the TSC55 (4batteries) and the little 10.8V drill. Which vac would you consider the best option? The Midi, the CT26 or CT36? I will be going between a workshop and various sites around Melbourne. I am a carpenter + joiner to trade...

[@DavidStanton]

Hi Steven. I grab the HKC at any opportunity. I have the 18 volt dewalt battery saw and find I can get maybe 8 feet of cut in 19mm ply. The HKC gets so much more cut per battery and also has the advantage of running on many different tracks.

[@stevenmarshall7118]

David Stanton thanks for the reply! I'll take it on board, I might need to look into it! Would you say it's strictly for framing or would there be a space for it on finishing works?

[@DavidStanton]

I use mine for a bit of finish work. the splinter guard works a treat.

[@stevenmarshall7118]

David Stanton thanks for the reply David!

[@p8ntblr1]

Can you adjust the saw to working on an existing TS55 rails?

[@DavidStanton]

Hi Russell Parker! I thought I mentioned that in the video?

[@robmorris3987]

I know I'm a little late for the party, but I've seen and read several reviews saying that the HKC is underpowered for many tasks, but they still love it and use it all the time.Have you found that it is powerful enough for ripping through mdf and trimming down solid core doors? What kind of tasks is the HKC ideal for in regards to site carpentry, after the framing is finished?

[@DavidStanton]

Hi Rob Morris! Did you watch the whole video? I demonstrate what you are asking about.

[@KingRichard93]

I'm looking into getting this saw but a bit torn between the and the tsc 55 so I have a couple of questions. I work mainly fitting kitchens so cut a lot of laminate materials, how much worse/better is this vs the tsc55? And also how does it compare in terms of power? I'm aware that the tsc 55 runs of 36v so I'm just curious how much difference this makes. Occasionally I'll be cutting solid oak work tops for example, and I want something with enough kick to get through it. Which would you say is better for my sort of work? Thanks

[@DavidStanton]

Get the TSC55.

[@dkamhaji]

Hi there, Im trying to decide between the HK55 and HK85 or Ts55. Can you help me with these simple questions: 1. What's the max depth cut with the fsk rail attached on an hk55. Can you cut through 2x4s with the rail on? 2. It would be my first festool buy so I want to get the most versatility out of it. The hk85 would give me further depth then the 55's and with the dado accessory it would yet gain more tricks to the one tool. Is it worth waiting for the hk85 when it comes out in the US? Is that dado blade accessory available for the HK55? Any benefits the HK55 would have over the 85? I will be getting a ct mini with it and a long rail for rips as well. Thanks for your videos!

[@DavidStanton]

1. If the timber is a full 2 inches thick it will not. The safe full cut is 49mm with the rail on. If the timber is 2 inches and has been dressed, then yes it will cut through. 2. The 85 will do more but is heavier. I will be doing a review in November.

[@con-f-use]

So besides the splinter guard on both sides and the better dust collection, why would one even buy a TS 55 if they can get a HK 55? The HK can do plunge-cuts, can use the TS's rails and blades, can fit a dado-stack-like thing that festool makes and more. But the TS can't use the FSK-Rails or the HK blades. Is there anything the TS can do, that the HK can't? It is even a little cheaper. Not judging, just honestly asking. I'm in the market for one of those. Am I missing something. Edit: Just saw (pun intended), the HK can't go in the CMS module carrier, so it can't be converted into a table saw.

[@DavidStanton]

Hey Christoph, please tell me how the HK55 can use a dado stack? I know the HK85 can use the trenching head but wasn't aware the HK55 could.

[@markhagy2586]

Dave, That was a tremendous review of the HKC circular saw. In response to your review, I have two questions. First, is there some way I could use the TSC 55 with guide rail and achieve a square cut like you can easily do with the HKC circular saw?? Second, to achieve greater length of cut, could I attach another guide rail to the guide rail being used by the HKC circular saw?? This would be to easily cut a sheet of plywood in half. Thanks, Mark Hagy

[@Homerbub]

Do have to adjust the tightness of the HKC 55 to the guide rail when you first get it?

[@DavidStanton]

Hi Homer. Yes, that is standard practice with any track saw.

[@Order-in-Chaos]

I'm a stick framer. I also cut plywood for roofing, siding and flooring. I've never used a track saw and I'm now looking to purchase one. I'm interested in the HKC55EB. I have a general question regarding stability. When I rip plywood or lumber and am using a circular saw I clamp a straight edge or a long level and accomplish a clean cut BUT that requires a lot of clamping and fussing. My question is, how can you cut with the track saw without clamping it down? Doesn't it move around? I'm uneasy about it just laying on the goods to be cut without being clamped down. Thank you. Great review.

[@DavidStanton]

If the sheet is on a stable base and kept flat, the force you apply to the saw is down and forwards, then the track should not move at all. I put my left hand on the track in front of the saw as I cut.

[@Order-in-Chaos]

Sure I understand thank you for the quick reply but HONESTLY will it require any support? I mean I have never seen anyone use any type of clamps. Let's say the plywood is a little warped will the saw move on me? Thanks Dave.

[@DavidStanton]

Call festool and get them to send a rep out to you to try it. It is their company policy to do so.

[@Order-in-Chaos]

Great tip. Thanks!

[@Order-in-Chaos]

On Friday I had a Festool rep demonstrate the rail and the cuts. I gave him a realistically shaped (not very straight) sheet of plywood and a crowned/cupped 2x12 as a rafter. The thing wobbled and wasn't stable because of the goods. After the demonstration I concluded that my concerns were legitimate and the ability of the rail isn't satisfactory with real life on the job framing materials. Unless your stock is completely straight and perfect this saw and any other rail saw isn't going to yield a perfect cut. So for this purpose in mind I gave it a thumb down. Keep in mind that the HKC isn't going to work with large wet rafters especially not LVLs It's not powerful enough for this purpose but they have the HK that can work. In any case, I'll stick to my fence/clamps and my Milwaukee worm saw.

[@Loo0ch]

also... do you think you can use this to replace a miter saw for cutting crown molding?

[@DavidStanton]

The good thing about a mitre saw is that it is heavy and you lock the crown mold in place so in that way I feel is cleaner and safer. I think this would do the job if it is all you had.

[@MrFerrie60]

Festo is the best I have a lot of their stuff, but this particular saw is a copy of mafell and they make fantastic kit as well

[@metal-adventures-joerg]

Handkreissäge ^^ Greets from Germany! :)

[@lindsaywebb1904]

Hi Dave. Great review. I had to laugh at your pronunciation...Hand Kreis ‘Seeger’ as you say would be Circular Hand Winner! Maybe that’s on purpose haha. It’s more like sehga.

[@DavidStanton]

It is a winner!

[@vinodh23]

Good video. Like it :)

[@tiitsaul9036]

superb engireening. Riving knife blows my mind. easy cross cut is a killer. interesting thing is it plunges the other way compared to st55.

[@DavidStanton]

+Tiit Saul Just a guess, but maybe you can apply more controlled pressure on the front handle with a dedicated plunge saw? The HKC being multi purpose probably has more control from the rear of the saw... maybe a safety factor as well with the blade guard and its design?

[@witnessnz]

come to think of it, anyone know where in Christchurch these are available from ?

[@DavidStanton]

+Piers Lehmann Can't help you. sorry. Try your local Festool distributor or online.

[@PatrickdeGeus]

Hi David, Seems I'm not the only one having a difficult time debating to pick the TS 55 or the HK 55. In what way does the HK 55 (when the same blade is mounted), make a less clean cut than the TS 55? I'm thinking the HK can do anything the TS can and more, so it should be the better buy? It's also less expensive... Or it there something I'm missing?

[@DavidStanton]

Hi Patrick. If you want a plunge saw the TS-55 is by far the better choice as it is designed to do that one function better than any other. It is a natural action and you do not need to retract the blade guard because....there is none. If you are after an all rounder and occasionally plunge then the HKC is a hands down winner.

[@PatrickdeGeus]

+David Stanton Hi David, Thanks for your swift reply. Here in the Netherlands you can buy a TS 55 with two FS 1400 rails for 500 euro, and a HK 55 with the FSK 420 rail for 450 euro. As a stand-alone machine, the HK is cheaper, but these package deals make the choice more difficult. The HK 55 is only complete when you add a 1400 rail (I think), and thus making both saws about the same price. I do not know why the TS 55 as a standalone machine is more expensive as it has the same motor, etc. But that is another discussion :-) For example, can the HK 55 shorten a door with the same precision as the TS 55? When I'm thinking about usages, I want to have clean cuts on plywood boards, being about to lay floors with straight cuts and occaisionally making a cabinet or other furniture. So yes, an all in one solution. But I think both saws are able to do everything I'm thinking of...

[@DavidStanton]

You will need 2 joiners for fs1400 rails. Be aware that the box the fs1400 rail comes in says FS1400/2 which means it is the second version of the rail, not that there are 2 rails in the box. Also, the FSK rali would be of no use joined to a fs1400 rail as it has all the stuff underneath it to make it a protractor. Good luck.

[@PatrickdeGeus]

+David Stanton Yes, the combination deal of the TS 55 includes two FS1400/2 rails and the joiners. Therefore a pretty sweet deal and thus a difficult decision. But that's mine to make. I'd just like to be sure whether the HK 55 can cut as clean as the TS 55. Many thanks again for your reply. You're right about combining a FS1400 to a FSK420 rail.

[@TheIlJeep]

+Patrick de Geus if you are going to use HKC as a saw for lists of materials then forget it. Buy TS. If you are builder of roofs or wood ware housed then that saw is for you. It's really very different things.

[@stephenchavez1]

seems like they forgot to add green to a few items. mitre on back, blade guard lever etc

[@DavidStanton]

A bit naughty of them!

[@proteus1]

That's a beauty.. German Engineering.

[@robbiebyrne7646]

Hi Dave Great review Will it cut through 45mm material at a 45degree angle?

[@DavidStanton]

The saw cuts 50mm at 90 degrees so I don't think it stands a chance of 45mm at 45 deg.

[@russellmillard6346]

like the bit of grey dye in your beard gives you much more authority

[@DavidStanton]

+Russell Millard If only it was dye. Lol.

[@Loo0ch]

do you recommend cordless or battery?

[@DavidStanton]

Depends on the application and if you use corded or battery tools. The corded version has more power and I think a faster RPM which results in cleaner cuts.

[@williba24]

They are the same.

[@learnerlearns]

It is NOT Festool's innovation. The idea was "borrowed" ( stolen) from Mafell.

[@DavidStanton]

+Learner-Learns Do you think it is still a good saw?

[@learnerlearns]

Oh yeah... it's nice. My buddy has one and I got to use it a bit while helping him with his new shop.

[@chriscasadei479]

Can you buy in US and how much?

[@DavidStanton]

+Chris Casadei Hi Chris. As I am in Australia I couldn't say other than suggesting you go to Festool USA website and see.

[@dustyhush]

thanks man

[@DavidStanton]

A pleasure Pieter!

[@MrGinocon]

I wonder who copied from who: Mafell from Festool or the other way around. However both are Top of the line tools designed to make our life and working easier smarter and SAFER!!

[@DavidStanton]

+MrGinocon That is the important part! "Top of the line tools designed to make our life and working easier smarter and SAFER!!"

[@manuzach]

Two tools in one ! Miter saw and plunge saw ...achtung miter saws, you are doomed with this beast!

[@DavidStanton]

Interesting point Manu Thomas.

[@markjruggles]

Great job - as always

[@DavidStanton]

+Mark Ruggles Thanks Mark!

[@4twentygrow]

this is not available in North America. :(

[@AaronGeller]

Yes it is

[@lnesland]

Most carpenters dont use this, they prefer a mitre saw with a stand. Much better to cut with. At least in Norway.

[@adriangrantham8130]

Dammit. I want one. Is there any cure for this disease of Festooliginism?

[@DavidStanton]

+Adrian Grantham No cure what so ever. But it isn't terminal!

[@djonez85]

It's terminal for the wallet!

[@fuzzywun]

that's true!!

[@leohutchy7142]

top man ☺

[@DavidStanton]

+Leo Hutchy I am glad you liked it.

[@ikeo8666]

someone needs to buy me one of these

[@DavidStanton]

Sounds like a plan blud work

[@vileguile4]

I just got mine home ... battery = 5 min to go before fully charged :D

[@DavidStanton]

Enjoy!

[@johndoe1765]

FUNNY I HAVE NEVER SEEN JIMMY DIRESTA USE FESTOOL ANYTHING AND HE HAS BUILT SOME AMAZING THINGS IS IT THE TOOL OR THE MAN?

[@DavidStanton]

+John Doe In these days of subcontract trades, this particular saw will save people who rely on their tools and skills to earn their living a lot of time. Not the tool so much as the talent using the tool, but the better the tool maybe the better result? A sharp saw will cut timber a whole lot better than a blunt one. An innovative design can do the same. Excuse my ignorance, but I have never heard of Jimmy Diresta. Is he someone famous?

[@adamlynch4607]

When I re mortgage the house I might go buy some Festool.

[@DavidStanton]

+Adam Lynch . It's funny how a lot of people think Festool is expensive. I guess it comes down to what you want from a tool. I have found mine to be reliable and accurate.

[@adamlynch4607]

+David Stanton my makita is reliable accurate and a dam sight more reasonable. I wanted to buy a new router and I went out buy a Festool one but at £850 for a router that standard guide bushes don't fit I can't justify it so I brought a dewalt the same as my Elu Mof177 and never looked back. You either buy into the Festool system or stay away. It's not just Festool that are over priced Mafell and Hilti are the same especially now Hilti sold out to China.

[@DoctorSpicy]

Pug??

[@DavidStanton]

Yes, my pug dog is a bit famous, went viral. This is to let the people who follow him know that he isn't in this video.

[@0815SeaBass]

German Tools the best

[@stamm321]

great idea but damn. way too pricey! 650+ just for the saw!

[@DavidStanton]

+Robert Stamm . Don't know where you are buying it from but it's only $559 for the saw in Australia. www.festool.com.au/epages/tooltechnic.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/tooltechnic/Products/564636/SubProducts/564636