The Story of Melee's Craziest Speedrun

Join me as I uncover the secrets behind Super Smash Bros. Melee's insane 100% speedrun category, All Trophies. We'll hear from the category runners, ncb1221, bwells626, and aMSa as they share their experiences from the past several years of running the category.
To solve the mysteries behind this run, we'll examine the category's requirements, dissect the best route, and learn how to shave off time from the runners' best practices. At the end, the current world record holder will share their most clutch moments.
All Trophies on Speedrun.com: www.speedrun.c...
Smash Speedrunning / Records Discord server: / discord
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00:00 - Introduction
00:47 - All Trophies Category Beginnings
03:36 - Category Overview
05:06 - ncb1221's run
11:03 - bwells626's runs
16:03 - aMSa's runs
27:27 - A Challenger Approaches
30:26 - "Practice Run"
43:04 - Who Else Is Out There?
46:16 - Closing Thoughts
Detailed walkthrough of my route: • SSBM All Trophies Spee...
My Route Notes: docs.google.co...
24 Hour Time Lapse Video - • 24 Hour Time Lapse
Outro Music Credit: "Resting Place" by Garrett Williamson • Resting Place
#speedrun #supersmashbros #worldrecord

[@LofiRobotGuy]

David pulling the most gamer move by gambling all his coins to get sub 19 hours for 1 trophy is the most clutch thing I've ever seen. Congrats on the speedrun record

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you so much! I can't wait for your new content!

[@jeffreystone8974]

Right? You can see on his face he went from "pfft David no.." to "... DAVID YES!" 😂

[@pyromaniacforhire]

"Heck It. Let's roll the dice." You will go down in history as a freaking Legend, My Guy~! 💜

[@magicwindow6682]

a true Chad move

[@PlanetAfterlife]

Nicely said.

[@Mr_Spaghetti]

it’s happened multiple times at this point, but i always get so hype when a speedrun documentary video pulls the “the newest runner………. was me.” move

[@davidvkimball]

Hahaha. Glad!

[@ObservationofLimits]

And that speedrunner.....was Matt Turk

[@strangejune]

@@ObservationofLimits No one expected the sub 19 minutes. And he didn't even share how he did it...

[@wheremybike]

Always gotta celebrate yourself when you get the chance yknow? I celebrate myself every night

[@donn4life]

@@wheremybike That sounds so wrong haha. Hope you found your bike though.

[@awiseman93]

“Heck it. Let’s roll the dice.” WHAT A LEGEND

[@davidvkimball]

🥰🥰🥰

[@Nintendoggy]

"I used to rooooooll the dice~"

[@mostlyharmless11]

44:28 I’m pretty sure Armada was making a joke that he was trying to speedrun “all trophies” by winning as many melee tournaments as possible there lol

[@davidvkimball]

Yes he was!

[@Shmandalf]

Something that's nice about long runs like these is that while every second can still count, recovering from mistakes is a lot more possible than say, a 20 minute run. Grats man that's a crazy achievement for any runner

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you!! You're exactly right. It definitely helped with the anxiety and stress factor you experience in most clutch records.

[@korpen2858]

Unless, you know... You make a 10 hour continous mistake 💀

[@davidvkimball]

@@korpen2858 Hahahaha yeah.

[@turkeyman631]

Until your time gets 'too good.' It's like watching the 120 star runners for SM64 now adays. People like Cheese and Simply with really good times reset after like the first or second mistake if it's early enough. Thats why I know I'd prefer to run something like this rather than a very popular category.

[@Shmandalf]

@@turkeyman631 Yeah I hear you, I want to learn to run some Pokemon games and typically they're 2-5 hours which seems like a nice butter zone for me, but some of the challenge runs are much longer

[@jbomb7867]

Pretty sure I'm up to like 17 years in my run now. Should probably get around to finishing

[@henryhardfoot]

Lmao same

[@MrBrendanRizzo]

Me too. If only I could beat Adventure on Hard.

[@davidvkimball]

The 100 coin battles is the real culprit here, let's be honest.

[@Kibernizzle]

Just checking in.. How is the run going? 😂

[@DilosEkens]

​@@MrBrendanRizzoRoy is our boy. His Up-B makes Pokemon Stadium become nowhere near as intimidating when you are able to get KOs by recovering back to the stage.

[@LittleBabyBlue777]

If watching Summoning Salt's taught me anything, it's this; No run is exempt from being refined to incredible degrees. In time, I'm sure we'll learn new ways to tackle the coins process, the overall play of the game, tech to make things go faster, etc. The category's still so young, and has a LOT of room to grow. It's an intimidating category, but one I'd love to see grow over time. Can't wait to see how this one develops! Good job, and great video!

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you so much! You're so right. As of this video, Pablo_SSB has the new emulator world record at around 14:24:29. Sub 14.5 hours. He's done some impressive new routing.

[@Khazuki_]

@@davidvkimball is there anywhere to learn what that new routing is, without watching a 14.5 hour video?

[@davidvkimball]

@@Khazuki_ yeah there's a Speedrun Discord for Smash you could ask there.

[@endlesswanderer1753]

Absolutely insane. Despite all the hard work and dedication you put into this, that 25% chance gamble is the most incredible part of it. You could have played it safe and still got the world record, but now you're a legend.

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you so much!!

[@NunofYerbizness]

I'm somewhat surprised Melee's "You got all trophies" message and Diskun unlock requirements work as intended, considering the facts that there are actually 293 trophies in Melee (including "Samus Unmasked", "Mario & Yoshi", and "Tamagon"), and there are actually 256 bonuses in the game, with the other seven being unused (those being "Barrel Blast KO", "Crash & Burn", "Deflector", "Green Shell Shooter", "Poolshark", "Red Shell Shooter" and "Ricochet Rifler"), at least according to TCRF.

[@davidvkimball]

Right?! I've scrutinized that page so many times haha.

[@mathprodigy]

@@davidvkimball this warrants a followup vid ABOUT the unused trophies and bonuses. I never knew about all that lol

[@Begeru]

I was about to ask about the bonus trophies requiring save files

[@davidvkimball]

@@mathprodigy I cover most of them in my documentary Elevated!

[@pepperedwithgunfire]

@@mathprodigy Dunno about the bonuses but the short of it on the tropies is they were a special in-store promotion in a couple of places in Japan and the US.

[@dawn-path]

I know this is unrelated to the (really well-covered & interesting) video content, but please know it means the world to me & other viewers that benefit from closed captions that you captioned an ENTIRE 47 minute long video - even with indicators that help with context. Incredibly based move on your end, man. Thanks.

[@davidvkimball]

You're welcome! I think it's worth it!

[@thebilliestsilly]

late, but seconded!

[@imablisy]

this video is outstanding. Heck it let's roll the dice is such a chad moment. Excellent presentation and documentation man!

[@davidvkimball]

Hahaha, thank you so much!!

[@ryanjd93]

"Heck it" goes so hard. I'm using that in everyday conversation now because of this man.

[@davidvkimball]

@@ryanjd93 Hahahaha amazing

[@Skellotronix]

Fucking "mEmE" cringe is so embarrassing.

[@neux64]

I know it's been a year but HOLY SMOKES ITS THE PKMN RNG GUY!! I also second the presentation, it stands out and gives the game the love it deserves

[@CSharp__]

"At the end, the current world record holder will share their most clutch moments." brilliant foreshadowing

[@davidvkimball]

Hahahaha, thank you!

[@CSharp__]

@@davidvkimball great stuff as always dude! I stg your editing is top notch

[@davidvkimball]

@@CSharp__ thanks!!? ☺️☺️☺️

[@Mackster44]

Haha, Armada's deadpan All Trophies joke is gold. Mad respect for getting a sick record on top of making this video, it was a great watch!

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you so much!

[@TheQuicksilver115]

Haha yeah I think David might have whooshed that one EDIT: Nah he knows lol

[@connor.d.l]

AMSA is the most “love of the game” player of all time. He just loves melee so much- comp, targets, giant smash tourneys, etc

[@davidvkimball]

Agree, it's so fun to see.

[@shadowfreak1101]

One thing I would know for a TAS run: when you create a new save, the game gives you a free (lottery) trophy. For the TAS, the free trophy that would be most beneficial is Birdo, to instantly get Mushroom Kingdom II.

[@davidvkimball]

That's right!

[@JonathanScarlet]

@@davidvkimball But wouldn't it be more beneficial to get Tom Nook or Mute City instead so you don't have to get the smash coins that much or worry about running? Unless you want to route in constant dash-dancing in between KOs or something like that. Just seems like you'd be better off getting the late-game stuff as early as possible and banking on more favorable RNG for Birdo.

[@GmNdWtchr96]

@@JonathanScarlet They said *lottery* trophy. You can't get the two you mentioned through RNG.

[@JonathanScarlet]

@@GmNdWtchr96 Ah. Guess I missed that.

[@linebeck1381]

I think Amsa is the most wholesome human in the world.

[@davidvkimball]

For sure! Outstanding guy.

[@Mister_Clean]

And he plays such a terrifying character

[@Vampibatmanodactyle]

>emuratewwww

[@yayeeters4919]

I'm new to this channel, but I really like that you're reaching out and hearing each runners' povs and personal experiences. Amazing way to get the real story. Straight from the original source.

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you!! That was the idea!

[@River_StGrey]

"Ya know, I'm pretty close to sub 19..." My heart skipped at that. Really glad it payed off for you, this shit is wild.

[@davidvkimball]

Hahaha. Thank you so much!

[@CrypticCode97]

I love these speedrun documentaries from people so deep into specific communities/categories

[@davidvkimball]

Me too!!

[@SSB_Seal]

22:19 Bruh, I can't believe that. I would be so unbelievably tilted if that happened to me Also congrats on your world record! This video was very entertaining to watch.

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you, I'm really glad you enjoyed it!

[@orthostic1933]

the amount of melee jank in this video is hilarious and insane

[@wiz0zero]

Great video. That sub 19 realization and clutching the last trophy was “*chefs kiss*”

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you!!

[@kellenshover]

Congrats on the world record! This is something I was always curious about as the trophies fascinated me so much as a kid and teenager playing the game. One time I printed an, at least, 50 page document listing all of the bonuses in the game in order to get Diskun back in the day. My Mom was not happy about the amount of ink used!

[@davidvkimball]

Hahahaha that's amazing. Bwells did the same thing as a kid. Thanks for sharing

[@Gigamex2]

I feel this comment! I did the same thing. Never got the hammer drop bonus... Might have to get my old stuff out and see if I can finally do it!

[@RobertJW]

@@Gigamex2 I got halfway through this video, went to find my Wii and my copy of Melee, and then realised I couldn't get past the menu screen because I don't have any AA batteries for the Wii remote.

[@jameswhite2308]

27:27. Caught me off guard, cause up til this point I went from "it's solid video so far, not bad" to "what" to then 20 more minutes passed by and left wowed. Earned yourself at least one more subscriber right there. Great job!

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you so much!!!

[@shamwow2000]

pretty much finished the documentary and omg that clutch sub 19 with the great fox gave me goosebumps!!!! once again, amazing stuff. love to see more of these documentaries

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you so much!! Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Pokemonmaster888]

This is a well-constructed video about the All Trophies category and its speedrun story on that site. A lot of the rules and sorting out of this category that happened this year were addressed when I first added it in 2019, but the category format didn't have them on the website then due to the lack of people playing. We weren't sure about the best way to do some things until more people submitted and couldn't do some of the plans either when there were only one or two people that had submitted. It is good that this category's leaderboard was improved, and more people will hopefully try to complete them with the better leaderboard and advancements in knowing how to play the category informatively. I'm glad to see that aMSa got a submission that could be approved! It was sad when his first speedrun had to be rejected due to the incomplete video problem; I didn't like having to do that. Your 1st place record is also great! A TAS of this speedrun category would be fun. There are likely a lot of people that already worked on this speedrun in the past because that website only has a pretty small amount of Melee 1P competition/data out of all of its online data and offline history.

[@davidvkimball]

Thanks so much and I appreciate this background information a lot. ☺️

[@essielesse]

I like to think the Baja Blast at 34:49 gave you the energy to keep going.

[@davidvkimball]

World record-causing beverage and company. 😍

[@ferxxo20xx]

Baja Blast really works in mysterious ways. I feel revitalized after sippin' one.

[@jiaan100]

It has mystical properties. Truly the nectar of the gods.

[@BrookieSmallz]

Very professionally made video. Thank you. Collecting trophies in the game was always the most appealing part of the game, and now almost 30, and watching AsumSaus I realized I never even had them all lol. Maybe someday.

[@davidvkimball]

Hahaha. AsumSaus is amazing. I turn 30 in November, too. Thank you so much for watching.

[@PatSpeedruns]

It's seriously impressive what speedrunners put themselves through. These crazy challenges, especially ones that takes hours to complete, or are just really difficult, are seriously amazing. This community will never cease to amaze me

[@davidvkimball]

It's so fun to see what people are capable of!

[@MarMaxGaming]

All trophies, holy crap what a category. Only something that most people never do, or ends up taking several years!

[@davidvkimball]

Exactly! 😂

[@MarMaxGaming]

@@davidvkimball congratulations on the grind and making it happen! hey David, if you’re into off the wall gaming records… would you mind checking out my vid of beating Ninja Gaiden while running 🏃 at the same time? We did it by putting a TV and an NES on the back of a bike with my friend riding 🚴 , and I ran behind it… hasn’t gotten a lot of attention, I think some people aren’t sure what to make of it! Also did Contra, Battletoads, and attempted Ghosts N Goblins… it was during Covid, kind of a crazy idea

[@psymar]

Yeah -- had the game since 2001 and still haven't managed a few of them!

[@OatmealTheCrazy]

I'm still 20 years into the no damage clear split

[@MarMaxGaming]

@@OatmealTheCrazy haha man that’s tough. Go Very Easy and try using a character with range moves like Samus and keep using the missiles, with the charge shot too. I feel your pain, you’ll be doing great for 10-15 min then a jab comes through like… 😑😩😩

[@DarkViperAU]

27:44 Ha that is a great twist! 42:04 Fricking nice! Gratz

[@davidvkimball]

Hahaha thank you so much!! I'm so glad you watched it! I had a lot of fun setting up those moments with pacing and music.

[@ChaosPootato]

Matt confirmed consumer of good content

[@davidvkimball]

I've uploaded a full guide on this run with notes, spreadsheets, etc. on my Bonus channel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoesi3SrZpiWlaM

[@davidvBonus]

Hey, that's me

[@AM2365-w9s]

Dude, I have a lot of fun watching this vid, and I respect your commitment a lot. What a last second lottery roll!

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you!

[@LiteralmenteFadul]

Oh my god this is the most unhinged run I've ever seen in my life

[@davidvkimball]

Hahaha. Yeah it's insane

[@poisonisdacure]

16:15 That timing with yoshi's egg and the music just can't be coincidence, it was very cool

[@davidvkimball]

😉

[@djtuff3355]

How does this video only have 4000 views? With the amount of effort you put into it I think it deserves way more! Props to you for 1) Running the category and 2) Making the video. Well spent 47 minutes of my time!

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you so much!! Hoping to get more views soon. 😅

[@djtuff3355]

@@davidvkimball Curse the yt algorithm!!

[@davidvkimball]

@@djtuff3355 Right? Sometimes it's helped me though!

[@SSBRocker]

Fun and interesting watch. In 2017 I started attempting to 100% every Super Smash Bros. game on stream. Although I didn't attempt to speedrun it and did those games in multiple stream sessions, it was fun doing them and also it taught me a lot about these games, for instance how to farm coins in Melee or how to get every single bonus. I even made my own checklist with every requirement for getting every trophy. So many hours of brainless grinding, but I still had a good time doing that.

[@davidvkimball]

Well done!!

[@fayescarlet]

The world of speed-running never ceases to amaze me. So much dedication and time spent, nobody loves games more than speedrunners! Amazing video!

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you so much! And truer words have never been spoken haha.

[@MR.__G]

Just the other day I was looking into dk64 speed run. It’s the game with the most collectibles ever & I thought a 100 percent run was crazy… but this was just insane on so many levels lol.. I truly respect the speed run community !

[@catman1900]

thanks for having full english subs instead of just auto generated ones! awesome documentary!

[@davidvkimball]

You're welcome! They were pretty tedious to make haha, so thank you for noticing.

[@shy1157]

I'm actually super curious as well what a TAS of All Trophies would look like how many coins can be gotten with Dash Dancing every frame in a minute? how many trophies and which ones would be gotten in the first Adventure Mode run? which characters would be used for what scenarios?

[@davidvkimball]

Right?! Super interesting idea.

[@GBDupree]

Could they manipulate the RNG for the lottery? if so, they could make it so they only spend 1 coin and get a new trophy every time! That's a huge time save I'd think. (Unless the RNG isn't manipulated through starting on certain frames or something like that?)

[@MLCrafter81]

@@GBDupree yes, i think that could possible to do?? (i'm actually very very curious about doing a TAS on this category, but the time investment would be absolutely insane) even if there's not a way to, there's maybe a way to get the trophies really fast outside of lottery

[@Epicdps]

I really hope someone makes a TAS of this!! Practical TAS maybe? DyllonStej?

[@MLCrafter81]

@@Epicdps I mean they could possibly be involved depending on if they wanted to be involved, it'd be more realistic if a bunch of people had hands in it, since just one person doing it would be a huge gamble and huge weight on the person doing it, especially if they haven't had experience with doing long TASes

[@TheQuicksilver115]

This was an incredible display of tenacity! Awesome, awesome, awesome!! Also big thanks for putting music credits at the end, no fewer than 5 times during this did I catch myself groovin' like daaaaamn this beat SLAPS! Gonna love that album! Thanks for the insane effort that you put into the run and then this video about it. New fan fosho! Heck it, let's roll the dice!

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you so much!! I'm really glad you enjoyed it. I appreciate the kind words.

[@MeesterTweester]

That was a great video. I looked into the category before but didn't know the whole story. There was a running trend of every runner making a big error, but I guess that's bound to happen with such a long and complex category.

[@davidvkimball]

Right? Thank you so much!

[@lornemalvo4492]

ncb1221's 5000 matches is one of the funniest speedrun blunders I've ever seen. what makes it interesting is he was the first person to even consider running the category so we got to see where the growing pains were. his face when he realizes lmaooo

[@davidvkimball]

Hahaha. Right? I'm surprised he decided to continue and finish the run after that.

[@QuintessentialWalrus]

Getting the lucky sub 19 hour run was such a chad move lol

[@davidvkimball]

Hahaha thank you!!

[@ethansunday1489]

2:34 When I first heard this i thought it was hyperbole... Nope. I did the math, at 8.76 seconds per vs match it would take exactly 101 days 9 hours 20 minutes 0 seconds to complete. Wow.

[@davidvkimball]

That's insane hahahaha

[@rtyuik7]

"1,000,000 VS Mode matches! ...Never thought you'd do the math and see the time-cost!"

[@SandwitchZebra]

Studying this bc RetroAchievements is adding GC achievements and Melee’s on day one, and they made all trophies an achievement. Don’t ever plan to speedrun it but this will certainly help it not take my entire life

[@davidvkimball]

@@SandwitchZebra excellent

[@Alexander_Grant]

Hey man, just wanted to say you'll have a much larger audience soon. It's gotta be disheartening to only have 17k subs after the amount of hours I know making this video took, but the quality will get you there. I can only imagine every video you've made has taken this much care and attention, I plan on watching through the rest soon. Your use of music and transitions into the montages are already far more proficient than many other Melee content creators (hell, many content creators) with far larger subscriber counts (39:40 specifically sticks out to me as exceptional, though every one was pretty sick). Always cool to find smaller channels before they blow up, best of luck to you.

[@davidvkimball]

What a very kind thing to say. Thank you so much, I hope you enjoy the rest of my videos.

[@mariahs6]

Such a well composed and edited video! Congratulations on your run too! Speedruns like these have always been the most fascinating to me!

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you!

[@LunaticJ]

One of the best speedrunning documentaries I’ve seen in awhile. It’s causing me to entertain the idea of running this category and even Brawl 100% in the distant future. Seems fun ngl

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you!! That's some high praise, I really appreciate it. If you do run it hit me up!

[@HakimRegh]

24:41 Hey, I reconize the pseudo who liked aMSa's post! :D (honestly I completely forgot that I liked this post so unlocked this memory was kinda cool. ^^) And honestly, this documentary was really cool to watch so thanks for making this speedrun doc (and GG for your WR. :) ), and I hope you will continue making such cool docs like this. :) (Maybe on the 10-Man Melee speedrun scene? ;) ) Anyway, have a good day and a good week too. :) - BlueJay2018

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you so much! Hahaha we'll have to see. I'm getting more into Pikmin 1 speedrunning these days

[@HakimRegh]

@@davidvkimball ​ You're welcome. :) And that's cool to see you getting into more speedrunning content. :) Can't wait to see your next documentary even if it's not related to Smash Bros. ^^

[@AlexanderWare3]

This is literally what I've always dreamed of thank you so much

[@davidvkimball]

I'm glad! You're so welcome

[@namechild]

You really killed it with this video, looking forward to future content from you. And congrats on the WR!

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you so much!!

[@snickidy]

That's the most badass thing I've ever seen taking that 25% chance on the new trophy

[@davidvkimball]

Hahaha thanks!!

[@Pixiuchu]

32:58 This is so relatable lmao. Half of my long speedruns are because I was going to do a short run, and then randomly figured, eh what the heck let's do it. And that's how I did an 18 hour long speedrun that I started at 7pm, my first long speedrun. They're honestly the most fun way to speedrun IMO. Too bad I don't have the time or resources to do those runs anymore Good video. GG on the sub 19 :)

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you for sharing your crazy speedrun story haha

[@shipguy55]

Congrats to you David, for what madness you were able to accomplish!

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you so much! "Madness" is quite accurate.

[@worsedoughnut]

Another awesome video, fantastic showcase of the absurdity that is All Trophies. Also glad to have been there to cheer you on for a handful of hours during your run, it was incredible to watch!

[@davidvkimball]

Thanks dude, I really appreciate your help during the run. ☺️☺️

[@h_b_g_4]

Incredible video, David. Nothing to say more than incredible.

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you!!

[@KnTElixar]

man I love that my brain went to boxx controller as soon as mashing crouch / dashdancing came up then 20 minutes later that exact strategy came back up. Great video man

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you!!

[@AdmiralEggroll]

Just another reason to ban the boxx smh. Incredible video David, I got chills at the beginning with the editing :)

[@davidvkimball]

Thanks Matt!! I hope I didn't break your B0XX controller. 😳

[@Lawrencelot89]

Fantastic video, thanks for all the explanations and congrats on getting world record! I see you've even got sub 18 now so good job!

[@davidvkimball]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@ScootaNinja]

After all these years of playing Melee, I had no idea Celebi was in this game

[@davidvkimball]

It has the most strict unlock criteria of anything except for the Diskun trophy, so it makes sense!

[@4td0]

The idea of this run passed by me a few years ago, Im happy to see it come into fruition and I cant wait to see how it evolves further

[@davidvkimball]

Me too!

[@RESPRiT]

Wake up, babe, new DVK Melee doc

[@firemblem01]

11:33 Look mom I'm famous! Awesome video man! ps- I'd like to think Armada was saying his all trophies run was him winning every tournament trophy for first place.

[@davidvkimball]

Yeah, I believe that was what he was saying!

[@davidvkimball]

And wow, congratulations on your #5 placement for Events!!

[@firemblem01]

@@davidvkimball Ty! I still run the category but I don't have a good way to record or time them. Hoping for sub 40 soon.

[@AleksHugs]

Incredible video. One thought-I know the 15 minute melee part with master hand is meant to be a break point of the run, but wouldn’t it be most optimal to grind coins during this part of the run? Dash dance with master hand for the 15 minutes would, theoretically, save 15 minutes. I know losing the break sucks, but thems the facts

[@davidvkimball]

That is exactly right. I intended on spending half of it taking a break and the other half grinding, but I accidentally started it as 1P instead of 3P, which would have meant my inputs didn't count. So I just took a full break haha.

[@Rumcake256]

That was an incredible journey you took us on during this video. Very well made and well done on your run!

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you very much!

[@vastkomplex1851]

It would be super interesting to see a full tas of this category.

[@davidvkimball]

I agree!

[@mathprodigy]

This is truly epic. Man I thought Final Fantasy speedruns at 10 plus hours was a long time. But unbelievably, you made a 20 hour run actually sound interesting, and great storytelling here! I grew up with Smash Bros games and appreciate all the skills and efforts therein. Never in my life did i think I would ever get all the trophies, and here people are speedrunning it today haha. Congratulations on the World Record! Truly well played sir.

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you very much!

[@IAmElectrospecter]

This reminds me that I have a memory card somewhere with my old Melee save file with like 2 trophies left to get. I should finish them someday!

[@davidvkimball]

Totally! My guess is... Smash Coins trophy and Diskun?

[@IAmElectrospecter]

@@davidvkimball your guess is as good as mine at this point, as I don't think I've loaded up the save in close to 15 years! Although I do remember having an awful time getting a couple of the bonuses, and unlock conditions probably weren't documented quite as well back then... shooting star comes to mind?

[@Meme-pg5tw]

wow just wow that was amazing i was just watching it casually and the ending of your run where you just went frick it and it paid off for the sub 19 was amazing

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you so much!! I'm really glad you enjoyed it.

[@AstridCharles330]

This category is insane. I've been playing Melee since I was a kid and have never gotten all the trophies. Mad props and that ending was so hype.

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you so much! You can still go back and collect 'em all. :)

[@t1glistenerelf]

The ending of your run is probably the most anime thing that I've ever seen in speedrunning. "WOW! INCREDIBLE!"

[@davidvkimball]

Hahahaha, thank you so much!

[@valseedian]

playing this game near daily when it came out, it took me more than 19 months to get all the trophies. love me some melee

[@davidvkimball]

Nice!

[@LitCactus]

Your channel is going to blow up, I just know it. Excellent video

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you so much!! I really hope so!

[@SecureLemons]

45:46 gotta give it to amsa for being real lmao

[@davidvkimball]

Hahaha fr

[@kirkprospector4958]

Phenomenal editing man. Really small stuff makes this video special imo.

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you!

[@Poshriel]

The Giga Bowser disc read error happened to me twice. I wonder how common it is. I remember being pissed off the first time, the second time I quit playing for a week. I wouldn't have went back, but I decided to see if I could do it with a different disk. It worked the third time and it felt great. That being said, I wasn't speed running 100% trophies.

[@davidvkimball]

Regardless, a rough experience indeed. I found running on Wii is a lot more reliable!

[@Poshriel]

@@davidvkimball The worst part about it was, this was when you had to actually look hard to find out what to even do to get to that point. Then you had to look even harder to see if anyone else had the same problem, and if there were any solutions. Similarly, the same thing happened after waiting 5 hours to unlock Mewtwo. Oldschool melee could be brutal.

[@davidvkimball]

@@Poshriel You could do it in just 4 hours if you used Lightning Melee!

[@Poshriel]

@@davidvkimball Yeah, learned about that one a little late. When we were waiting the first time for Mewtwo, the internet was young, and my friends and I weren't entirely sure we weren't being trolled. We knew mewtwo existed in the game, we just thought the unlock method was bullshit. When we finally waited out the time, and ended the match, we were so excited we almost lost the match. We won, then the infamous disc read error occurred.

[@MTL_Reggie]

I can't believe I watched the whole thing, super entertaining. Also, what a godlike gamble for sub 19! Subscribed!

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you!!

[@beingofuniverse]

I wonder what the most efficient strategy for the lottery is. I suspect "round up to ~90%" is a pleasant safe strat but it probably isn't the best usage of coins. Also, can someone more familiar with Melee's RNG mechanics tell me whether doing RNG manipulation would be viable for the lottery here.

[@davidvkimball]

Great question. SaveState is like the authority on RNG manip in Melee, and Fuzzyness knows a bit about it also. I watched a video covering it. There is a seed for Melee, so nothing is truly "random." It's probably possible to get on a cycle where you get the perfect number of trophies (with maybe a "name entry" or "random character select" thrown in there to change the seed.

[@PracticalTAS]

It's certainly possibly to manipulate the RNG. A TAS could even brute force with a strategy like "make a savestate, play the lottery, if you don't get a new trophy reload and increase the price by 1 before playing again, repeat" and probably collect every lottery trophy with a lot of coins to spare. To be efficient and even do this in real time you'd have to figure out the relationship between coins spent and the trophy you eventually receive, reverse engineer the function that converts RNG seed to trophy, and calculate your current RNG seed at a given time (the last of which we know how to do).

[@dancing_odie]

Sometimes you gotta risk it for the biscuit. Congrats on the sub 19 and thanks for the entertaining video

[@davidvkimball]

Thanks!! So glad you enjoyed it!

[@MixMaster345]

Yo this editing is so top tier 😭, thank you for using my music!

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you so much, I'm so glad you agreed to let me use it! It was perfect for this doc.

[@TheHiddenSecretsChannel]

It’s cool this is what helped NB even get a chance to 100 percent all smash games in 2 weeks

[@davidvkimball]

@@TheHiddenSecretsChannel I know!! I loved working with him!

[@TheHiddenSecretsChannel]

@ I hope yall can work together more if he re-tries the challenge

[@anonymoose2474]

There's now a sub 13 hour run on the leaderboards wow

[@davidvkimball]

That's right! The runner and I have been chatting!

[@ZeranZeran]

Great job on this man. Also, Lonnie Liston Smith - Garden of Peace! was not expecting to hear that. One of my favorite songs ♥

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you!! Wow, thank you for naming the song. The one I included was a remix, I didn't know.

[@GimR]

can you use a wavebird controller to get 4 people to dash dancing at once?

[@davidvkimball]

Yes! And it would be about 20% faster than 1 person dash dancing in single player modes. However I didn't have access to any wavebirds, and also I'm not sure if it's faster than just using Master Hand in Training Mode.

[@steafansteinocher462]

SHHHHEEESH that edit around 5:08 to 5:23 was NICE!

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you!

[@Techstrobe]

This was so well done! I hope you may garner some interest in maybe considering a video on the history of Brawl's All Challenges, as it is very similar to Melee's All Trophies with the few players that dared to try it out, funny miscalculations, accidental hour-saving discoveries, friendly competition, and more. RubberDuckyAssassin, the WR holder, is actually preparing to do his final run of All Challenges (and Brawl in general) very shortly. If anyone could honor his legacy for All Challenges and Brawl in general in video format, you'd be the guy, if this possibly interests you.

[@thebormashine2593]

Yeah and some funny mishabs like Dragolina doing all challenges and hosting a charity event and you not accepting her run because there were a few internet issues on cruel brawl in a 43 hour run instead of just adding a penalty time or something because the 4k Views and 525 euros donated to charity were cleary not an indication for it being done and being seen. So quirky of you. Or the legacy of brawl that is built upon the pedo almolicious that you praised to such a high regard as a community and have seen as the great grandfather of the game until the game got a bit of attention and later too through the history video where everything had to be skipped that involved him, because that would make the game look bad. But who could forget the time where ducky too did allegedly something in a certain hotel room but stayed admin on the smash discord anyway when it was still up for debate. You know out of everything (and that is by far not all) that leaked out of your speedrunning community, i am truly wondering why nobody wants to run it even after getting so much mainstream attention by dragolina and i am really wondering why she even put so much time into this unholy abomination of a speedrunning community. There should rather be a video of the legacy of brawl and where it went horrible every single time.

[@davidvkimball]

Thanks for the heads up! I'm not sure I'd cover that, but it's good to know!

[@irishjet2687]

Is there anyone who's attempted a "unlock all custom special moves" speedrun for Smash 4? That was an interesting idea for a game mechanic that was stunted by lack of balance and the ridiculous time-sink.

[@davidvkimball]

That sounds HORRENDOUS.

[@thefranChise1]

Finally got around to watching and HOLY this was amazing. Great work!

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you so much! Really glad you liked it 😊

[@KimballDonald]

Project Ganondorf documentary when?

[@davidvkimball]

Soon!!

[@flaretheblitz1282]

Absolutely insane. Congrats on the record, and thank you for the amazing video!

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you, I'm really glad you enjoyed it!

[@rruhland]

I’ve kinda wanted to get into TASing so maybe this is the thing to do. It would be a terrible idea for a first TAS.

[@davidvkimball]

LMAO yeah that would be a rough one to start with. That being said if you end up doing it hit me up. 👀

[@Jcool114]

This was such an awesome video! Top notch production quality and amazing story telling, content like this is so inspiring to me. Hope you keep making more, this was truly incredible!

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you so much!! I'm really glad you checked it out!! Thanks Cooper!

[@user-yw9mw9hv8o]

100% Aka all trophies, should definitely have all glitches and bugs allowed

[@davidvkimball]

I agree!

[@Jiggleslinky]

Finally got around to watching this and was not disappointed, you rock dude.

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you!! So glad you enjoyed it.

[@DoctorSour]

Somebody send this to MoistCritikal please

[@davidvkimball]

That's an amazing idea!!

[@DoctorSour]

@@davidvkimball I think he would love this video, I know how much he appreciates Smash Bros + Speed Running. So if you could find a way to send this to him I bet it would be a hit on stream.

[@davidvkimball]

@@DoctorSour Dude, thank you! I'll try to reach out to him!

[@DoctorSour]

@@davidvkimball same here, I’ll be recommending this next time he does KZbin night

[@davidvkimball]

@@DoctorSour That's really kind of you, thanks!!!

[@carlosfranceschy9428]

It sure seems like a daunting speed run but once people go at it with a plan, sky’s the limit. Great video and congrats on the world record

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you!!

[@hotomelette4155]

It's wierd hearing Dual Screen's music in the background. His music is so underrated with many of his best songs under a thousand views! It's cool that you included his music in this documentary.

[@davidvkimball]

His music is amazing. I stumbled upon it somehow and when I heard this album I knew I had to include it. I reached out and he was super enthusiastic about using it and even made some edits for me. Amazing guy.

[@La_cabine_de_Cabine]

"Heck it, let's roll the dice" Words to live by 🙏 That felt awesome man

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you so much!! Glad you enjoyed it

[@LinkinHand]

Omg that was a nice Video. And congratz to this crazy run holy moly

[@davidvkimball]

Thank you very much!

[@Intraj]

This was a super cool, unexpected video to watch. Good stuff man

[@davidvkimball]

Thanks!!