Davinci Resolve on PC is changing forever...

[@MrAlexTech]

Sozzles. Another windows based video 😄 Second in a row!

[@CaseyFaris]

Sozzles indeed.

[@MylonasFilms]

no need for sozzles. I prefer windows video's

[@ScottandRobinTravel]

As I'm not British, just looked up the meaning of Sozzles. Does this mean getting drunk?

[@MrAlexTech]

@@ScottandRobinTravel Ha that would be Sozzled! "Went to the pub last night and got sozzled!" That wasn't my intention ha! I just meant 'Sorry' or 'Soz' as we Brits sometimes say, but Sozzles instead. It's like 'Sorry not sorry'. Kinda Sorry, but also kinda not as i think it's exciting news but know some people will be grumpy about it 😄😄

[@ScottandRobinTravel]

@@MrAlexTech LOL, thanks Alex! And thank you for making excellent content that is helping us. You have no idea how many people I have passed on your site to. So many!

[@TheOrsonLord]

I'm so glad our PC Resolve users are getting this, I switched to Mac when the M chips came out.

[@lets-automate]

Love the way you keep talking about power saving and reducing heat in this video...when i have spent the entire day today moving my pc into the next room and feeding the wires through the wall because it just gets too damn hot in the room with the pc on! Hopefully I will now survive the summer!

[@MrAlexTech]

My room is heated by my PC 😄

[@yufers]

Have you tried using Throttlestop? I live in Thailand and it helped a great deal.

[@HDRPC]

I have RTX 4080 and it is more efficient than M2 ULTRA in 3D work, video editing and also gaming.

[@HDRPC]

Intel Lunar Lake in September will change the way people think of ARM and x86.

[@HDRPC]

X Elite is dead or arrival

[@alantuttphotography]

When reaching out to the big companies, make sure to talk about your audience. How many subscribers, how active, how responsive, etc. That's what they care about most.

[@stefanlenz]

Thanks a lot for this information. I switched a while ago from a fully loaded XPS13 to an M1Max Macbook Pro. The Apple Machine runs Resolve flawless, but I would love to go back to a windows machine. Because besides the performance I hate the mac OS, I really do and would love to go back to Windows.

[@coinopanimator]

The galaxy book 360 runs resolve wonderfully plus it’s also a Wacom tablet

[@TechHunterOfficial]

Great video Alex! I'm praying this could be a game changer, I'd love a portable editing Windows machine that doesn't always need to be plugged in!

[@lucabastianello9830]

I'll wait to see how it develops. Surely the prices of the notebooks are crazy

[@rWhiteknight_TTV]

Heavy breathing after thinking Davinci wasn’t free anymore… phewww!

[@MrAlexTech]

Haha Imagine if I just dropped that bombshell with a big stupid smiley face thumbnail 😂

[@thegamingfool524]

I would of been upset haha​@@MrAlexTech

[@rWhiteknight_TTV]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 I dont even think I took a good look at the thumbnail lol and I just started getting a hang of davinci too 😅

[@xw1ngnutsx952]

I nearly had a heart attack!!!!!!!

[@GAMERTAGVR]

It’s definitely worth the licensing fee. Your missing out on some awesome features

[@DaPoets]

I visited Qualcomm recently and got to see the new version of DaVinci Resolve w/ the X Elite and it crushed it, and was a couple of times faster than the Intel competitor.

[@Raima888s]

I picked up the S5iiX btw. Thanks for your recommendation :)

[@DougStaples]

Thanks for keeping us in the loop!✌

[@BurntToasTJ]

Would like to see these chips being put into a PCIe some how so I can use it in a desktop but on a dedicated card...

[@Rockpat]

What about DaVinci Resolve ARM support for LINUX?🐧

[@definingslawek4731]

Totally false technical explanation in the beginning. Ram is not on chip in Apple silicon nor is it on the new Qualcomm chip. Also the reason x86 is less efficient is not because “cpu, gpu and ram are separate” Also the vast majority of all windows laptops historically already had a gpu on chip and a media engine. (I have a degree in computer science)

[@ilsavv]

Thank you for the input!

[@ayan8233]

Precisely. The reason x86 is less efficient has to do with the Instruction Set Architecture. x86 is based on the Complex Instruction Set (CISC) which need more cycles to execute one Instruction compared to a RISC based architecture like ARM and it's version that apple uses

[@ellarpc]

That’s what I came here to say

[@IvoPavlik]

​@@ayan8233 Even that is not completely true anymore, since both CISC and RISC worlds converged significantly towards each other in the mean time. For instance, current x86-64 chips use, in fact, simpler micro-code instructions to implement its complex instruction set instead of having each instruction implemented with a separate circuitry. OTOH, Arm (RISC) processors added more complex instructions to their set. There is an interview with the legendary chip designer Jim Keller at TechTechPotato channel, where he explained that the inefficiency of the current x86-64 chip implementations comes mainly from the historical burden of legacy features they have to implement. The modern Arm implementations are much younger and therefore having much simpler designs leading to higher efficiency.

[@HDRPC]

Intel Lunar Lake in September will change the way people think of ARM and x86.

[@DG-Travel-Vlogs]

Cool news, the fact that Resolve will work on the Snapdragon architecture would make you think that if future flagship android phones and tablets are built using these new X chips then there is a good chance Davinci would have a compatible app for android devices....I use Davinci on PC for my professional wedding work, but for short form content and travel vlogs I'm using a combination of capcut and Lumafusion on tablet so it would be awesome if Davinci could run on it....who knows but cool info. Cheers. Darren.

[@Ishai1]

Snapdragon X is a Microsoft/Qualcomm collaboration so it will be exclusive to Windows PCs. Google could make a similar push to have Android tablets that can run these workloads with their own CPU/NPU, but right now they seem to have given up on tablets. I don't know about Resolve on phones, maybe on a foldable it would make sense? You could always go with an iPad, not sure how it will perform compared to some of the cheaper Snapdragon X Windows tablets.

[@DG-Travel-Vlogs]

@@Ishai1 let's just say I'm not an apple fan boy, had an iPhone once and vowed never again

[@-Blue-_]

​@@Ishai1upcoming 8 Gen 4 will be based on the same oryon Cores just like X elite this is not exclusive to Microsoft windows

[@TamasKiss-yk4st]

@-Blue-_ Where did you heard that..? I mean this Oryon already failed at start, so they must do some improvements.. (just keep in mind it's the smallest chip what is compete the basic M chip, Apple can double the cores/performance with M* Max and also quadtruple the cores/performance with M* Ultra.. but that Ultra only have 25% more power cores like this Snapdragon.. so how they are planing to release any desktop chip, if they need the same amount of power cores for a laptop what Apple use for the 4x powered desktop..?)

[@-Blue-_]

@@TamasKiss-yk4st I am talking about mobile chips not desktop 😂😂🤣

[@aaphotofilm]

We love you Alex, i know i say it all the time but its amazing what i learn and how much i learn from you on this channel, even this video alone was full of things i didnt know, you are the man :)

[@JimmyLeeJr]

These surveillance devices are getting better every year

[@StefanRingelschwandtner]

Great news. Thanks!

[@Dr.FarisArab]

well we ur audiance dont ignore u. cheers mate

[@memust]

please suggest the specifications to assemble a desktop to run davinci resolve

[@heiko4297]

Interesting. I would love to have an extension-card based on that snapdragon, that I could put into my pc to accelerate editing.

[@MrAlexTech]

Ohh yeahh a good external GPU would be a dream with these

[@Raima888s]

What will this mean for PC builders? Will we be able to soc as a module and put them on motherboards? Like you said, more choice is better. It drives competition and help keep prices low

[@troypast3589]

Means that pc builders will start charging us more for ram and storage like Apple has…. Also means the days of open architecture may be numbered. A lot of changes coming regardless and not likely pc builders will be on their mind as much as the desire to make profits.

[@iamsteveolson]

Looks promising. Can’t wait to see how DR works with a surface!!

[@ereceeme]

I severely need something like this. My work requieres travel and I'm tired of carrying my pc lap top about 9 llb with the brick. Was abut to purchase a mac air m3, my first mac. but now Ill wait and see.

[@skyking95]

You are right!! More choices are always good. I just got my M4, 1 TB 13” iPad Pro and will see how much better editing with Resolve is with it especially Magic Mask, etc.

[@CameraTim]

I need all the deets. If you need help storming down some doors... I can't help you, but I'll fully support you in that endeavor!

[@MrAlexTech]

😄😄 deal!! We shall ride into battle good sir. Ohhhh I might drop you a message tomorrow dude! I could do with your wizardly eye balls on something.

[@orangespill]

Thanks Alex. That was really useful. Looking to upgrade my MSI GE63 with 1060 GPU and this looks like something worth waiting for, especially as a Studio User. Cheers !

[@RichardsWorld]

Intel based Macs used to be able to run Windows with Bootcamp. Now, would it be possible to do this again in the future?

[@PaulNewberyPhotography]

Decisions decisions, my current intel Mac Book Pro is just too slow. I am about year away from replacing. I was thinking of a gaming laptop or another mac book pro now another contender?

[@MrAlexTech]

Yeah I'd think so. Id definitely wait a little while longer, just to see how these new ones play out. MacBooks are great tbf. I've got a m3 pro. Gaming laptops are more powerful (for similar cost) but bigger, heavier, louder and need power.

[@Client_Match]

Thank you. great info at a time i am thinking of upgrading explained well!

[@crawfordharris4795]

Why did you wait until I had held out as long as I could before splurging on the Studio version? My luck can only be described as Micro. It would have been a nice 85th birthday present. I very much appreciate yours and Casey's help in learning DaVinci Resolve. I hope to have a KZbin channel up and running in the reasonably near term. It will be something to keep me off the streets . . . but then my wheelchair already does a fair job of that.

[@mysterychemical]

There is CISC (or namely x86) and RISC ( or namely ARM) CPUs. RISC doesn't necessarily mean the RAM must be in SoC design. There can be dedicated RAM just like x86. There would be no any difference except CPU architecture in future releases but for now RAM is integrated on SoC on RISC CPUs.

[@TamasKiss-yk4st]

For a portable device, they must use the more efficient technology, because RAM is continously drain the battery (so in sleep mode, it's still need the power to keep everything in memory, just one sec without power it's wipe the memory..) and DDR RAM use a lot more power, it's matter if your device lose 2% or 10% of battery at night.. or even while you use, that 8% battery difference can extends the usage time significantly. In a desktop basically nobody cares if it's less efficient, or too much (because 2x more RAM also use 2x more power to operate), but from a tiny battery it's not to clever to waste the battery for things like this.

[@rangerhawk]

I'm not sure if you have the time to answer questions, but I am going to give it a shot. I am working on a memorial video for my mother, and I created a small problem for myself. I'll try and keep it brief. I am working on a large slide show. Like really large. I decided to break it up into smaller sections to make syncing to music easier. However, now each separate timeline section does not have an end where it should. It goes on for the full length of the original timeline. How do you set new end points?

[@dhk1]

Each timeline will stop on the end of the last clip. If it is still playing then check to see if you have any clips on any of the video or audio tracks that are past your chosen end. They could be very small clips that are left over from a fine edit that are left behind.

[@KenCheng]

it's been 5 months since you posted this... have you had a chance to test it out? I'm currently starting to do research on my next laptop and also recently started getting into video (from still photography). I currently have an MSI gaming laptop from 2019 and DRS crashed on me yesterday 😬

[@Facter2-xm6bq]

i like your audio. good sound.

[@TABonTV]

Keep on pestering them, would love to see some comparisons on your channel!

[@petermclennan6781]

Excellent news for all Resolve users. I see a head-to-head comparison with the iPad version coming soon to a KZbin channel near you!

[@pcoussa]

Thats all well and good. But, are we still going to have the same issue with Windows where there is no H265 support in Davinci outside the Studio version? Doesn't a Mac have support for H265 in the free version?

[@qani613]

What about for Linux users?

[@PiDsPagePrototypes]

Wonder if LumaFusion will run on these devices?

[@MartinLeschinski]

Awesome News! Thank you very much

[@johnsfilmsllc]

Hey wait a min I thought we agreed processor architectures was my lane!😂 Great job man! @mralextech

[@MrAlexTech]

Haha I left the details light!! I'll leave you to go into the details 😄😄 Nice hearing from you dude. Been a while. Hope you are doing well 🙂

[@JasonTaylor-po5xc]

I like the idea of taking your editing rig on the road but having more power when you get home/office. I assume that is using external GPUs. How well do they work for capture and editing? Considering most enclosures cost $250-$300, you probably need to put in a decent graphics card to justify the combined price.

[@niilousnelson3771]

Alex, are you going to release a video for DaVinci Resolve on the snapdragon chips? I will like to know if they are any good in comparison to the apple chips.

[@dopexmc7901]

nice video, would you say that a "lenovo p620" is enough for 12k Postproduction / Da Vinci? (instead of building an own custom Pc)

[@heiko4297]

@MrAlexTech Is there an Update on this topic? I've seen a Video where the performance of Davinci Resolve on Copilot+ Notebooks is still far off the performance of the rotten fruit devices. I'm currently looking for a mobile device where I can actually work with (4k log-footage, color-correction, titels, a few effects...). Anything in a 1000 to 1500 € price range?

[@MrAlexTech]

There will be! Waiting on a device to arrive (literally meant to be here today!). I do also have a Surface Pro though. The short answer is this... they're pretty okay! Timeline cutting is solid, really smooth 4k, shop it together no issues, the GPU is not particularly powerful so starts to stumble abit with effects, also rendering is a little on the slow side at 4k (around 50fps). It's very, veeeery comparable to Apple M2 Air performance (I only have the M2 to compare to, or a M3 Pro - Pro is faster). But, it does feel there's more performance to come. Resolve does slightly weird things (like Noise Reduction is slow for no reason - like really slow). It feels like there's alot more optimisation to happen from Blackmagics side. Example: Magic Masks run quite well as using the NPU, but alot of the other ai features don't use the NPU, so run a bit meh. Interestingly, the X Plus and X Elite are very similar as it's only the core count that differs. Media Engine is the same so cutting feels identical on either (10core vs 12core - there is now an 8 core X PLus which i havent tried yet) Overall, the Surface Pro is a lovely machine. Thin, small, light (ipad sized!) but with a usable OS (unlike iPad ha) and can do some simple cutting without too much issue. Just needs Resolve to improve a bit more. The one I'm waiting for is the Galaxy which has the most powerful X Elite available.

[@heiko4297]

@@MrAlexTech Thank you so much for your reply! I am looking forward to see your review of the sweet hardware you are waiting for. Size and weight doesn't matter too much for me, as I have to carry KGs of equipment anyways and don't travel too often via plane. I'd love to have a Notebook capable of running DVR and Lightroom, color-correct display. Everything else is optional.

[@bryanpascual3543]

I just recently built my editing/gaming PC with R9 7900 + RX 7800XT. I won't be switching to ARM anytime soon

[@MedusaJellyFish300]

I love this new news information ❤🎉❤

[@The_Idea_of_Dream_Vision]

Wondering if we are getting desktop versions

[@sentragrafikakompumedia]

Adreno GPU in X Elite: approx 4+ TFLOPS RTX 3050TI: approx 8 TFLOPS Intel Iris Xe: approx 3+ TFLOPS Radeon 680M: approx 3+ TFLOPS So, how does the Adreno process faster than the rest? If USB4 really works, then it would be an option to attach TB3 eGPU on it like I do for my ROG Flow Z13 and X16 with RTX A4000 and A5000. Resolve Studio runs pretty well with it. Curious on the X Elite. Might ask a vendor to send me one next month. Specially with 32GB of RAM.

[@pauljcampbell2997]

That's great, but how does it affect the rest of us using AMD or Intel processors?

[@nikolaostsimpetonidis4243]

Thank you for the video, how this new chip would compare let's say to the AMD Threadripper Pro 96core with 1 or 2 RTX4090. Would it have the same or better performance, for VFX creation (modeling, rendering, compoisiting) or it is tsill too early? Thank you for any information :)

[@CraigHollabaugh]

Good luck getting demo units! Hope it happens.

[@chaoticneutral1090]

Im gonna want this, and i got one laptop for mobile editing for 1.2k last year, and it runs.. ok at best which is quite outragous.. I wanna see you do a review and make ab unbiased review of possible to see if it really works well and smoothly!

[@BidoTech]

A very good video as always.

[@davidswanson9269]

I wouldn't mind a ARM or a RISC V desktop or laptop with a Blackmagic label optimized to run fusion or resolve and other creative multimedia intensive workflows with high bandwidth ports capable of creating render clusters.

[@phichau90]

Will they be coming on Samsung tablet ??

[@BaronMcLean]

Hey Alex. I brought your plug-ins. I have a question? I have a Mac Mini with the 64 unified memory. What is the best settings in Davinci Resolve 19 on the MCU & GPU? Is it Metal or Open CL / Apple Engine.

[@ArcanePath360]

Your title makes it sound like we have to adopt a new native ARM system or it won't work anymore with their updates. I sincerely hope that is not the case.

[@Weird_Quests]

It's exactly what I was looking for! :D May even convince me to give up the mac and iPad combo and go for something like a Surface Pro :D

[@brentspotswood]

Super looking forward to this. I hate macOS but I’ve been using a MacBook Pro for the last couple of years for battery life. I can’t wait to finally have even better options for hardware with a much better OS! Very exciting!

[@rafal-linka]

Cześć Mr AlexTech czy nagrał byś jakiś odcinek z Davinci Resolve Studio? Np. coś w stylu "5 Minute Fridays - Davinci"

[@cholasimmons]

great time to be alive!

[@3dus]

Does it have unified memory? Video engine encoders (x26x/Prores)?

[@vishalvan3317]

Hey Brother I am an electronics Engineering student And want to try KZbin for 2D Animation and Video editing for fun or (switch carriers if it gets more of me than in engineering) I have installed Krita , Audacity , Kdenlive , Blender , Opentoonz , And Davinci Resolve. I also have XP-Pen Deco Fun L graphic tablet . But the problem is I have an i3-10110u laptop at a climate running avg 40-43°C temps. At room . And the performance is terrible. And i cant buy one new untill i start earning and earn half the money the laptop or pc i need is worth for .

[@DJKav]

I remember way back when I was reading about the ARM 1 chip, that Acorn Computers designed. How it was faster than the Amiga m68000 and it's co-processors. Acorn nailed that Acorn RISC Machine (ARM) processor. Purpose built for the Acorn Archimedes series.

[@CompuWatch-yz4in]

but does it really mean more choice or does it mean the resolve for windows version will only work on mobile phone cpus from now on?

[@chicobraz4335]

I was thinking of building 14900k ,4070 rtx ,128GB ddr5 .with 3 X m.2 . All at around 2100$ is that still worth it as of this minute ?

[@GKQ333]

this is exciting as i do like working on windows more than mac but my m1 macmini with 16gb ram runs davinci quite well and if you could get similar ability in such a small package it would be great.

[@TheGeekyHippie]

Will the new DR that runs natively on ARM still gonna work with my current machine that I have been using it on?

[@oneeyedphotographer]

I saw the announcements yesterday for Surface Pro and Surface Laptop. I need Adobe even more.

[@hersh_yt]

Thank goodness I waited a long time to buy a laptop

[@RealTechnoPanda]

Apple has excellent media encoders and decoders in their Silicon. Snapdragon X Elite better include these, else video editing will suck on windows running on ARM

[@MrAlexTech]

This is true. I'm not sure if there's been much info on the video encoding/decoding.

[@-Blue-_]

Go and search on Google all the information regarding X elite is there

[@ThisBytesForYou]

Nice, thank you

[@NickandCindyDavis]

Great video, love your content. Do you know anything about if we will be able to purchase the chipset for PC’s? I have a pretty beefy desktop but would love to upgrade it if possible.

[@LuckeGabriel]

*deep sigh* I had a m1 max macbook pro delivered today. Wondering if it's worth returning and waiting it out for a snapdragon windows laptop...

[@leonardwise5807]

I ordered the Galaxy Edge 16 gig of 8440 ram and one terabyte of storage for 1749. It has an Oled 3k screen and highest tier Snapdragon Elite chip, and as a pre orders special they threw in a 50 inch 4k tv. It arrives June 17.

[@Pallidus_Rider]

Would be nice to have Snapdragon for smart TV, as larger screen sizes suck juice out of the wall ...

[@Ishai1]

It was nice seeing Resolve show up at the Microsoft Surface event yesterday. It says a lot about the software when it's Apple and Microsoft's choice for showing off video performance. They could've just shown off Premiere Pro (they did show Photoshop just before Resolve). We'll see how much better Resolve performs with dedicated NPUs taking care of some of those AI tasks but at least it's one of the apps being used for testing.

[@BrianTheCameraGuy]

This is very exciting

[@zbiromax9228]

Hi, everybody. is the RTX 3050 8GB VRAM graphics card enough for DaVinci resolve free version? Such short forms up to 30 minutes tutorials and here moderately advanced montages... cuts, talking head captions, transitions, animated graphics. All in all, the goal is a simple video construction.

[@doughgarcia6086]

Sorry off topic But what will be really cool is that you can make a video about Security footage look...

[@jeromejooste3493]

I'll be replacing my one laptop within the next year so this could not have come at a better time for editing though I'll no doubt have to keep the Intel Win11 systems running for astronomy software.

[@BinaryClay]

Not to be negative but da va vinci isnt really changing at all. I was a bit dissapointed about that. Im not missing power with a Dell 17 xps and an external 3090 - even the internal 3060 does amazing

[@tomdchi12]

Since we’re all stuck using these acronyms, you can say “SoC” (that’s “oh” in the middle) rather than “CPU” to indicate that it’s the main doodad system on chip, uh… thingy rather than a central processing unit.

[@annebokma4637]

Talking about windows... How is resolve on linux? Does it have parity with the windows/mac versions? Windows was awful, but 11 is a disaster and getting worse

[@bartmvfx]

Have you reached BMD to know if they're in touch with Qualcomm so they're sure this units will support the whole potential of it, like they did with Apple? This really could be a game changer

[@user-wk6tp1og3l]

hey can i ask you for help on something please

[@DXAMedia]

Windows need to add HDR support. Somehow. But with all variations of hardware it needs to run, unlikely.

[@Danimally]

Do you think it's time to update to win 11?

[@MrAlexTech]

Probably tbf. They did some weird (annoying) stuff with 11 but overall, it's been pretty stable.

[@kristopherpistole]

anyone recommend a davinci tutorial to do a simple comic book style transition? trying to avoid moving keyframes

[@RArecordingsRickValcon]

"we get thin and light laptops" The first thing I look at when buying a laptop is: Can I swap out components and is it repairable/upgradable. If It's a closed box with almost no posibillity to do this it's a big no for me.

[@MrAlexTech]

Different strokes for different folks as the saying goes. I'll take a big fat PC at home and a thin, light but capable laptop for on the go.

[@Ryzza5]

Gotta think about compatibility with a large number of games, DAWs, VSTs, etc before I consider this, maybe wait for gen 2.

[@troypast3589]

Or wait for Nvidia, Apple and AMD real AI and Arm offerings. Things are going to happen Fast. Intel has the most questionable future at this point

[@shira5968]

Muchas gracias. Muy bueno el vídeo

[@nayyarrazakazmi8386]

Well if the Snapdragon does masking on 9fps in resolve studio as compared to 3 fps on intel system, then I am happy that my Macbook M2 Air also does 7-8fps while masking me out from my background on my 30-40 mins long videos.

[@seanmartinflix]

NPUs all great and everything for the occasional magic mask I'm more interested in the media encoders that really make MacBooks feel more like the high end desktop when scrubbing. Like it is quite remarkable as someone that owns both an M1 Pro and a desktop and a RTX 3080. I found some info about it but there's barely anybody talking about media encoders in these chips. It's either because it's not that good or it's just niche to the video editing Community even if some of them don't know it.

[@DaneBrammage]

It’s about freaking time that the non apple world got a “modern” processor/ SOC. It’s about 25 years over due and even as a lifelong Mac user I think it’s really exciting. It will just raise the bar for everyone and we lowly Resolve users are all going to be the beneficiaries. 🎉 Cheers Alex.

[@pixelundspaetzle]

Great News for all of us Windows guys 😀

[@gchorton]

Whoa!!! Intel must be freaking out!!!

[@newwayofthinking]

big blow to intel, they'll have to respond hard and fast.

[@8lec_R]

Great video for the non nerds out there. Just wanted to point out, the fact that it's a soc doesn't really increase performance that much, a little bit yea depending on the task but most of the efficiency comes from the fact that ARM is different architecture, much more lightweight and nimble. You can have arm CPUs and discrete GPUs (although I don't know of an arm dgpu)

[@HewalGuenes]

That's quite nice about the notebooks. But I personally don't want to work on a notebook, but on a real PC with lots of hard disk space and 3 screens. I wonder what will come here? What I also wonder: ARM also seems to make sense for desktop (see Apple), I don't think Intel and AMD will just leave the field like that. Let's see what time brings in the next few years