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@PhoticSneezeOne
@PhoticSneezeOne Жыл бұрын
All jokes aside: It is mind blowing that a card from 2016 (yeah, that´s right) performs like that in 2023. Polaris was/is AMD´s masterpiece.
@anita.b
@anita.b Жыл бұрын
AMD does that a lot, it's not a unique case of amazing performance down the road. Three words. 7970 Ghz Edition.
@fgfg655
@fgfg655 Жыл бұрын
so does GeForce 10 series GPUs.
@jonathank5841
@jonathank5841 Жыл бұрын
Hey guys, sorry for interrupting but would like to ask if said graphic card you mention would be s good card for beginners? Would love to play stuff like hell let loose, even on medium thst would be awesom. Im looking for a graphic card thst wont break the bank
@leopoldbuttersstotch6060
@leopoldbuttersstotch6060 Жыл бұрын
I was always kinda confused why people love the rx 580 but shit on the 1060 6gb, in my market they’re the same price, and the 580 uses a lot more power while not being much more powerful (just 2gb of extra vram, but let’s be honest, 6gb is completely enough for the 1060 class of gpu)
@wrth
@wrth Жыл бұрын
​@@jonathank5841depends how much is your bank, where you live, and if you're willing to go second hand or not
@Psychx_
@Psychx_ Жыл бұрын
The 16 GB version only has 192GB/s of mem bandwidth. If you could push that a little higher (normal 580 has 256GB/s), it would net you some significant, additional performance. Polaris10 allows for adjusting memory timings and bios mods btw.
@donciutino7490
@donciutino7490 Жыл бұрын
polaris is dead bc of new DirectX
@upfront2375
@upfront2375 Жыл бұрын
@@donciutino7490 What is it? the 12.2?
@vitinhx794
@vitinhx794 Жыл бұрын
@@donciutino7490 is it 12.1?
@Tetraverse
@Tetraverse Жыл бұрын
For some reason they used 6Gbps memory modules instead of the 8Gbps modules that the original RX 580 had. This probably made the performance significantly worse.
@oKrikket
@oKrikket Жыл бұрын
The memory also runs 500 Mhz slower. Everything is nerfed on this card.
@Psychx_
@Psychx_ Жыл бұрын
The RX580 2048SP is called RX 570 elsewhere in the world.
@mijingles8864
@mijingles8864 Жыл бұрын
The normal 2048 has 8gb. Double the amount of the normal 570.
@p0intblank597
@p0intblank597 Жыл бұрын
@@mijingles8864 there is a 8gb variant of rx570
@alsy342
@alsy342 Жыл бұрын
@@mijingles8864some of the RX570s actually have 8 gb of vram
@GewelReal
@GewelReal Жыл бұрын
no, it is a 2048SP 570 is a different thing
@fuxseb
@fuxseb Жыл бұрын
We shall call it 570X then. Or even better, 570 Ti.
@MenkoDany
@MenkoDany Жыл бұрын
The 2048SP thing got me intrigued. Turns out, it's literally just the RX 570 with a small 40mhz factory overclock on the max boost. The RX 570 is the same die as the 580 and same architecture design as the 590 (it was a die shrink)
@MenkoDany
@MenkoDany Жыл бұрын
I'm wish Dawid tested ML stuff, theoretically (if you ignore AMD shenanigans) this GPU could be amazing bang 4 buck for stable diffusion/LLMs. I mean, if tinygrad succeeds :D
@b127_1
@b127_1 Жыл бұрын
RX 590 is actually a different die. It is made on 12nm instead of 14nm.
@pfizerpricehike9747
@pfizerpricehike9747 Жыл бұрын
@@MenkoDanyonly if you wanna tinker. gfx803 isn’t officially supported by rocm for a while. Thanks to amds drivers the speed on windows in ML is blatantly bad. In linux you will have to find a way to get rocm going for these specific cards, then you could actually get halfway decent performance for the price but it’s not really worth the hassle if you can just buy a 3060 12 gig or more recent 12gig Radeon card used for not much more
@MenkoDany
@MenkoDany Жыл бұрын
@@pfizerpricehike9747 Trust me, I know. During the early LLaMA days I desperately wanted more ram (4090 is not enough), I was this --->
@vinylSummer
@vinylSummer Жыл бұрын
​@@pfizerpricehike9747idk about pricing in your region, but in Russia that 580 16gb costs half the price that the cheapest used 3060s usually go for, while providing 30% more VRAM. For applications that need VRAM that bad the card seems like a good deal
@Sundayinthelife
@Sundayinthelife Жыл бұрын
My guess is that the 16gb may help on productivity tasks? Very fun video. I like that when you crank things to unusable, the 16gb is technically 3x better
@johnpaulbacon8320
@johnpaulbacon8320 11 ай бұрын
Actually it's 4 and half Times better
@masiosareanivdelarev562
@masiosareanivdelarev562 Жыл бұрын
I bought my RX 580 8GB between 2017 and 2018 and it was great for 1080p gaming. I just upgraded it this year a month ago to a RADEON RX 6650 XT. I still recommend the RX 580 if you are on a budget you can still game with that GPU.
@brandonfulstone7628
@brandonfulstone7628 11 ай бұрын
I have an RX 580 8gb and it runs at least some modern games decently well
@itpugil
@itpugil 4 ай бұрын
I just upgraded from an RX 470 just last week to a 7800XT. That thing can still game, especially with FSR enabled. That feature is such a lifesaver!
@ItsNeverMe
@ItsNeverMe 4 ай бұрын
Yes, I bought my rx 580 for 45€ 1 year ago. I only upgraded to a gtx 1080 2 months ago because it was in a pc I got for 20€ used (well, it was free but I needed a 20€ wifi card) It has a i7-6850K on a MSI X99A Gaming Pro Carbon in an old Lian Li PC-Z70.
@itpugil
@itpugil 4 ай бұрын
I also forgot to mention the 7800XT I got was sold to me for.....wait for it.....89 usd. Yes 89 bucks. A friend I build PC's for gave me a free 1000w ASUS ROG Strix PSU and tried to sell his 7800XT to me for 409 usd hoping that I'd bite the offer. Since I told him I was using a Seasonic M12II 525w PSU so I was limited on upgrades. I was considering the 6650XT since its good on a 500w PSU. When I declined, he just sold it to me at 89 usd. I've been gaming since then, replayed RE 4 Remake, and everything is at max settings on my 1080p 27" 144hz curved monitor.
@ItsNeverMe
@ItsNeverMe 4 ай бұрын
@@itpugil Holy $hit, that's cheap!
@czbrat
@czbrat Жыл бұрын
Rather than doing ultra preset or 4K you could have only increased the texture setting. Wouldn't have hurt performance and still used most of the memory the game could use anyway.
@12Rosen
@12Rosen Жыл бұрын
Increasing textures reduces performance too..
@alexanderjohansson2671
@alexanderjohansson2671 Жыл бұрын
@@12Rosen Not as much as everything on ultra though.
@gorjy9610
@gorjy9610 Жыл бұрын
@@12Rosen only when bandwidth is quite low
@TheNightquaker
@TheNightquaker Жыл бұрын
@@12Rosen Not nearly as much as increasing everything to Ultra. Especially not with 580's memory bandwidth, which can handle high res textures just fine.
@MJ-uk6lu
@MJ-uk6lu 11 ай бұрын
@@12Rosen No, it doesn't. It was tested so many times. Anisotropic filtering doesn't have any performance cost either. This has been true since like 2002 or 2003.
@TonyHarlan
@TonyHarlan Жыл бұрын
Why your channel and videos haven't popped up and been recommended for me in so long is infuriating. This is literally the first video of yours I've ever seen, and I have no idea why. You are freaking hilarious, and I enjoyed this video so much. Already liked and subscribed. I'm still running an RX 580. Told myself I'd replace it when it wasn't good enough, and it's still doing everything I need it to do.
@balsalmalberto8086
@balsalmalberto8086 4 ай бұрын
Same got inside a puter I built back in 2013, cpu is bottle necking it. I rarely game on it as I have a better PC for that.
@samholdsworth420
@samholdsworth420 3 ай бұрын
Davvid is 😎 🫘
@MoultrieGeek
@MoultrieGeek 3 ай бұрын
Same here, I watch a ton of tech videos and never saw Dawid in my recommend. I found him through Toasty Bros and immediately subbed.
@zloboslav_
@zloboslav_ Жыл бұрын
This memory could be very useful for loading larger AI models for the same reasons that the 12GB 3060 is the budget secret weapon for AI enthusiasts.
@thorgraum1462
@thorgraum1462 9 ай бұрын
preach
@JohnDoe-cv8iw
@JohnDoe-cv8iw 7 ай бұрын
yup!! i just learned about the 3060 myself.. just picked up 3 for my AI rig.. really not bad performance for the price!!!
@brokeDude2901
@brokeDude2901 6 ай бұрын
No Tensor Cores and you think it will be good for AI
@classictechhd2932
@classictechhd2932 6 ай бұрын
@@brokeDude2901 slow but no memory limitation at cheap price maybe we gotta wait stablediffusion for cpus ryzen 7000 support bf16 but not fp16
@w04h
@w04h 4 ай бұрын
You are not running any AI on amd hardware, and not because of tensor cores, but awful software support and lack of driver updates. Rocm is no longer updated for these cards.
@HR-wd6cw
@HR-wd6cw Жыл бұрын
I still like how some graphics cards, like the 3D Wildcat back in the day (which was a CAD-oriented card) had upgradable RAM slots on the card. Then again, these cards were also not cheap as i think they ran a few thousand dollars each at the time. That being said, I think we are venturing into rather absurd territory where graphics cards have more RAM than some systems. I used to joke (back when 64GB iPods were around) that it was sad if your iPod had more storage space than your computer.
@hawky2k215
@hawky2k215 11 ай бұрын
If it not just the Vram but memory bus aswell ??? Am sure the stories would be different
@MJ-uk6lu
@MJ-uk6lu 11 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, Wildcat was severely flawed card in many ways.
@MRJN23
@MRJN23 Жыл бұрын
Dawid never disappoints
@Xenoray1
@Xenoray1 Жыл бұрын
dawiddoesneverdissapoint
@TheLaurentDupuis
@TheLaurentDupuis Жыл бұрын
Except with EPYC CPU.
@bregowine
@bregowine Жыл бұрын
God bless him
@targz__
@targz__ Жыл бұрын
he's using AI generated images. that's very disappointing
@IdentifiantE.S
@IdentifiantE.S Жыл бұрын
@@targz__Its true unfortunately 🥲
@Daygunjim
@Daygunjim Жыл бұрын
Hey Dawid, I also have one of these scalpel RX 580s. And for overclocking with MSI afterburner it's everything to do with the power limit settings. They are running at like 50% power capacity, so slide that bad boy up and it will hold the frequencies.
@hopoff9968
@hopoff9968 Жыл бұрын
The 580 was my first gpu, it sure was a huge upgrade from integrated graphics😅
@hawky2k215
@hawky2k215 11 ай бұрын
I'd regretted it from 390x to Rx 580 they're neck to neck! Wasted my money! 🤦‍♂
@jaskajokunen3716
@jaskajokunen3716 11 ай бұрын
@@stargirl5194 i got 4k monitor and still use my 1080ti for it Some games run fine 4k with it still.
@dorayaki5494
@dorayaki5494 7 ай бұрын
@@hawky2k215 Performance wise yes. Power draw wise not really. The 580 drew a whopping 100w less than the 390x. If you used it for around 4-5 years 4h/day you saved around $100 in the electrical bill alone (depending on the kwh price). That and it also probably reduced the load on the CPU... If you bought your 580 8GB at the time for $200 you effectively reduced the cost by half. No money wasted there if you ask me since it's still by today standards a very solid card and can be resold much easier at a higher price than a 390x.
@balsalmalberto8086
@balsalmalberto8086 4 ай бұрын
My second gpu. Bought it as an upgrade to GTX 550 Ti. Got it right before the GPU prices went insane in 2020
@tricky_hy2892
@tricky_hy2892 Жыл бұрын
I clicked faster than linus being exposed by gamer nexus
@bennoboy97
@bennoboy97 Жыл бұрын
Wow this is an original comment
@Crusader1089
@Crusader1089 Жыл бұрын
So you clicked after several months of investigation?
@JBrinx18
@JBrinx18 Жыл бұрын
Faster than 44.25 minutes
@OppositePengui
@OppositePengui Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t seem like they’ve properly set a response on their KZbin yet
@Hexanilix
@Hexanilix Жыл бұрын
NAWWW 💀💀💀
@justbubba4373
@justbubba4373 Жыл бұрын
I feel like it's not even for gaming at that point. Probably for mining or machine learning that needs "Just Vram"
@IdentifiantE.S
@IdentifiantE.S Жыл бұрын
Its sure !
@gorjy9610
@gorjy9610 Жыл бұрын
Memory is cheap now (who know do they even use new chips) and this is a way to stand up in market saturated with millions of other 580 cards available now. But it's pointless, it's just like 4GB gt710 cards.
@Deja117
@Deja117 Жыл бұрын
Weird idea for these kind of cards... You could try rendering a video with them, to see if the extra memory can maybe somehow make it a little faster? 😅
@FreebooterFox
@FreebooterFox 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, my first thought is that this is for cryptomining, or rendering or something. I can't imagine why else this FrankenGPU would exist.
@robdunning6285
@robdunning6285 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Very entertaining. My son and I are currently in the process of upgrading an old sff business machine just to see how it plays games at 1080p. Low power low profile. Thnx again.
@xDJaack
@xDJaack Жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter what the video is about, it could be an intricate look into a cable and you manage to make it entertaining! Well done my guy!
@slackerdc
@slackerdc Жыл бұрын
I love Dawid's videos because he doesn't say why things are a bad idea he gets the hardware and shows you and it speaks for itself.
@1337Ox
@1337Ox Жыл бұрын
Yeah when I heard about this version of the card, I just asked myself "why? and WHY the cut down version?". 8GB is really the sweetspot for RX580, more and slower memory will not help you in any case. RX580 is such a good card, released in 2017 and still relevant card for 1080p gaming in 2023, and you can undervolt most of the cards so they are super efficient for this architecture.
@BronzedTube
@BronzedTube Жыл бұрын
I just finally upgraded from the rx 580 - the thing was a champ. I mean still ran everything I ever threw at it well enough. jumped up to the 7600. This new card runs so cold for me, I dunno how I am going to heat my office this winter.
@jameslake7775
@jameslake7775 Жыл бұрын
My guess would be etherium leftovers. Mining ETH required a lot of RAM, but wasn’t very intense on the core. My understanding was that it did benefit significantly from faster memory, but maybe they were chasing some type of power savings or maybe this was just what was available and cheap and worked.
@degnartsE
@degnartsE Жыл бұрын
​@@BronzedTube its kinda crazy I have a 580 and I was planning to upgrade to a 7600 too 💀💀
@rustler08
@rustler08 Жыл бұрын
@@BronzedTube Why, though? You could have literally spent like $40 more for a brand new, on sale 6700 XT or 6750 XT that would have crushed the 7600. Or, even a used, under warranty 3070.
@rustler08
@rustler08 Жыл бұрын
@@degnartsE Please don't. Just spend the small amount of extra money on a 6750XT. Skip eating out like once or twice, you'll have a vastly superior card.
@user-zd2bc9qt7s
@user-zd2bc9qt7s Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love Dawid’s Drama Free content. Great video!
@helljester8097
@helljester8097 Жыл бұрын
I love how if you stop to look closely at the ai generated images at the beginning they are pretty much 90% squiggly lines that don’t mean anything like my drawings of a “mad scientist laboratory” when I was 4 except it’s all colored in and shaded real well.
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 Жыл бұрын
you know if the circumcized 580 can do that well with 16gb of vram imagine what the regular version would do with the same memory🤔🤔
@wizardothefool
@wizardothefool Жыл бұрын
WOW, 16gb really brings out the 4k performance. I could only imagine what some games could do with 2 rx580s working together in tandem
@redist7201
@redist7201 11 ай бұрын
по видео видно что это всё напрасно,16 это всё в никуда the video shows that it's all in vain, and it's all going nowhere
@AtomicSub
@AtomicSub 10 ай бұрын
@@wizardothefoolYeah RX 580 at 4K, it’s a massive piece of shit and dual gpu gaming is dead
@jackielee297
@jackielee297 8 ай бұрын
2 rx580? Might as well get 1 RX6700 XT
@fatrobin72
@fatrobin72 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing graphics cards in Maplin back when dad would go in to buy some electronics components... and that gpu box gave me nostalgic feelings towards that...
@BeardedGinger
@BeardedGinger Жыл бұрын
the rx580 8gb was a beast card probably one of my most favorite gpu's of all time. It did 4k on my tv when i had my HTPC setup at the time and played wild lands at respectable frame rates and it handled my ultrawide in games too. bought it for 100$ sold it for 300$
@MarginalSC
@MarginalSC Жыл бұрын
Given it was basically a 480 it remained relevant for a shocking amount of time
@Eltezznn
@Eltezznn Жыл бұрын
It's a very weird variant because I think It's made for ML (stable diffusion, Vicuna-13b...) BUT, as far as I know, these cards are compatible only with a very outdated version of ROCm (which is the AMD's crippled version of CUDA) so the performance will be pretty low these days. We need someone to test this card with ROCm to see if "it does something" though.
@GeneralNickles
@GeneralNickles 9 ай бұрын
The added memory is likely for crypto mining. The RX580 was mining powerhouse for a while, but only 8gb version, because mining uses a crap ton of vram. 4gb just doesnt cut it. So 16gb would probably have a pretty big effect on your hash rate.
@Longbowgun
@Longbowgun 6 ай бұрын
It's for A.I.
@an3k
@an3k Жыл бұрын
You can use a polarization filter. That will make the information on the chips much more visible.
@stephen1r2
@stephen1r2 Жыл бұрын
That often won't help in these cases. The cards are constructed from found working parts pulled from dead cards. To conceal the sourcing of the chips they sand off the model/serial numbers
@Imkishore_12
@Imkishore_12 Жыл бұрын
This intro has better cinematic than some games 😂
@jacksongunner7122
@jacksongunner7122 Жыл бұрын
I’m waiting for the 16GB GT710 review.
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue 3 ай бұрын
they did it because they could not because they should watch Jurassic park for the reference🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@nexxusty
@nexxusty Жыл бұрын
I knew you'd buy one of these when I saw them the other week. Nice one brother.
@PopsHowTo
@PopsHowTo Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that when you are done with a video, YOUR DONE! It’s like BAM! video over! Go home! I love it! Haha 😂
@Iam_Dunn
@Iam_Dunn Жыл бұрын
You’re*
@pixelpuppy
@pixelpuppy Жыл бұрын
I wonder how this card would do for Stable Diffusion rendering, since the more video memory it has, the bigger the images it can generate.
@BadBoy11m
@BadBoy11m 11 ай бұрын
That's what I asking for too
@jackielee297
@jackielee297 8 ай бұрын
Quality wise, better go for RX 6600 and beyond
@acepedro12
@acepedro12 Жыл бұрын
It maybe circuncised, but it's still 12 inches long.
@pandabytes4991
@pandabytes4991 Жыл бұрын
Always happy when the best TechTuber around releases a new video. I seem to always go out of my way to ensure I get to enjoy the video ASAP.
@snackpacking
@snackpacking Жыл бұрын
Aw man for a second I thought this was a GTX 580 and got excited! But, I watched the whole thing anyways because your videos are awesome.
@TheRealKensai86
@TheRealKensai86 Жыл бұрын
As soon as i saw the beginning of the video, I immediately thought "the vram is not the bottleneck". I had a strix rx480 (basically the same as your 580) and used it up untill a few months ago. A very good card and lasted a lot longer than it should. It now lives in my daughters minecraft pc. Great video btw!
@pv2xeek
@pv2xeek Жыл бұрын
I would be curious to see how it handles generative AI tasks. Some LLMs are massive memory hogs.
@relkyagreymoon12
@relkyagreymoon12 Жыл бұрын
Dawid, you should try playing the 7 days to die game. If you have a save with a lot going on, that old game uses a lot of VRAM (10gb is not even enough at 1440p). You can use that to compare GPU VRAM.
@Nobe_Oddy
@Nobe_Oddy Жыл бұрын
you ALWAYS start my Saturday morning off right with HILARITY!!! THANK YOU DAWID!
@petecoventry6858
@petecoventry6858 Жыл бұрын
Nothing I buy from there ever arrives lol
@chuckthomas1872
@chuckthomas1872 Жыл бұрын
ha ha
@idan678
@idan678 Жыл бұрын
weird lol
@EliezYT
@EliezYT Жыл бұрын
Honestly I'd say the best card for something like this would be a RX 5700 XT that would make it a budget 1440p powerhouse.
@marktheunknown1829
@marktheunknown1829 Жыл бұрын
I'm using a 6600xt for 1440p, even though it is said to be a 1080p card, it is performing quite well
@Am_Yeff
@Am_Yeff Жыл бұрын
My 5700xt is already a 1440p powerhouse
@EliezYT
@EliezYT Жыл бұрын
@@Am_Yeff Not anymore my RX 5700 XT is struggling in 1440p gaming because of vram.
@Am_Yeff
@Am_Yeff Жыл бұрын
@@EliezYT mine isnt, runs VR DCS great and most things at 144fps, really still an amazing card
@EliezYT
@EliezYT Жыл бұрын
@@Am_Yeff Are you playing newer titles like The last of us and Cyberpunk? I see the vram usage go pretty high playing 1440p high settings.
@timothymartin2137
@timothymartin2137 Жыл бұрын
YOU screwed up...that huge memory is to run DLSS and the gimmicks...you should have turned all of that on for this!!!!
@playerofgames7916
@playerofgames7916 Жыл бұрын
Dawid Hollywood are searching you
@MTBScotland
@MTBScotland Жыл бұрын
be interesting to see how such a card works in something like davinci resolve. comparing it to say a 570 which is what it's based on would be a fairer test
@Dorraj
@Dorraj Жыл бұрын
Dawid, you gotta understand (and a lot of gamers and Nvidia takes advantage of this misconception) that resolution is not the only thing that affects VRAM usage. Texture settings are typically the settings that affect VRAM usage, but even then there are a lot of games that "smartly" use VRAM for textures. In a lot of modern games, the texture setting simply affects how fast the textures are streamed in, not how big the textures are, RE4R being the best example. (annoying how they put a gb size next to the setting despite that not being what it does) But that's not all, any RT settings, specific detail settings, all will affect VRAM usage, not just "pump to 4k to use VRAM". It hurt me to see you playing games at 4k with medium settings, like what's the point of testing out the VRAM if you don't change the settings that actually scale with more VRAM!
@rustler08
@rustler08 Жыл бұрын
TL;DR
@Dorraj
@Dorraj Жыл бұрын
@@rustler08 TLDR: 4K resolution is not the only way to increase VRAM usage. Normal settings do that too. Turning a game up to 4K but keeping the settings low will not use too much VRAM.
@jurpo6
@jurpo6 Жыл бұрын
I get you're trying to be clever, but not enough to prove him wrong. It ultimately varies based on the method game developers used to make the game. Doom eternal, RDR2 pre-caches everything into vram to prevent stutters. Tiling is used with dx12 and as you say, is a smart way to use vram. It however requires some advanced yet troublesome prediction or scheduling to prevent stuttering. There are many games that simply determine textures based off of resolution, so dawid is completely fine in his video. The game is not going to load higher resolution textures for a lower screen resolution, there is zero point. On the flip side a game might default to 2k textures or higher when set to 4k resolution.
@LorikQuinn
@LorikQuinn Жыл бұрын
Shadows also use quite a bit of VRAM
@virlanmarianbogdan653
@virlanmarianbogdan653 Жыл бұрын
Dude I love your videos! Thank you for doing your job!
@dontevenlook
@dontevenlook Жыл бұрын
I'd love if he could plop the 16gb memory into the beefcake RX 580.
@NatInTheHat49
@NatInTheHat49 Жыл бұрын
This abomination was made for mining a fair few of these are in the wild considering the price difference to other 16gb cards it made a lot of sense
@aleksazunjic9672
@aleksazunjic9672 Жыл бұрын
Correct. 2048 SP was chosen because it used less energy for similar yield.
@emilypeters8888
@emilypeters8888 Жыл бұрын
I love that people are resurrecting old tech with upgrades, especially since in my opinion manufactures should make things like ram upgradable, and cpus usable regardless of mobile or desktop in any platform, mobile highend cpu's use to be a killer option for passively cooled home theater pcs, etc.. and then if you could get a highend mobile gpu on a card you were set to have the best experince.
@jackielee297
@jackielee297 8 ай бұрын
Chinese market are doing that. They buy old motherboards, RAM, and GPU and create a Frankenstein outta them
@warrenmcclure7819
@warrenmcclure7819 Жыл бұрын
I mean, was it really a scam. It truly had 16GB of vRAM which i didnt think it would really have
@fitah47
@fitah47 Жыл бұрын
please do more aliexpress videos, that's the only place where I can get cheaper prices where I live
@iguanac6466
@iguanac6466 Жыл бұрын
You could have reprogrammed the BIOS for a more aggressive fan curve (keeping it ~65C) and bumped the core clock speeds and even improved memory timings. That would have been an interesting experiment. I've always wondered if tightening memory latency helped gameplay. One other thing you could do by making your own BIOS is to bump the memory speeds up as well (until you start seeing ECC errors in HWInfo64).
@personalgao
@personalgao Жыл бұрын
Memory is use for generative AI. The problem is that many open source projects use nVidia and little by little we can use AMD GPUs. This could be a great card, not for games, but other applications. But... the software is not yet.
@mareck6946
@mareck6946 Жыл бұрын
you can run stable diffusion on it.
@jomeyqmalone
@jomeyqmalone Жыл бұрын
Are a lot of people actually looking for 7 year old AMD GPUs for this kind of work though?
@mareck6946
@mareck6946 Жыл бұрын
@@jomeyqmalone some may for budget stuff. rendering works too. also video editing with eg davinci resolve can benefit from thsi large FB. i mean teh next competitor to that value in terms of vram is prolly the Intel A770. Which is quiet a gap tho.
@schaffer_does_exist
@schaffer_does_exist 6 ай бұрын
Dawid passionately describing the bastardization that is The RX580 2048S. me using that card: 😬
@ChrisPelletier73
@ChrisPelletier73 Жыл бұрын
I’m choking on my coffee about 3 seconds in. Wasn’t ready for that crap😂
@fluffyboom
@fluffyboom Жыл бұрын
what have they done to my precious 580...
@MrTefe
@MrTefe Жыл бұрын
lmao nice joke. nobody uses a GPU that bad nowadays
@fv101
@fv101 Жыл бұрын
@@MrTefe shut 😔😔😔😔
@IvanOoze1990
@IvanOoze1990 Жыл бұрын
@@MrTefe alot of people do, I bought one last week, not my main rig but, I still bought it.
@underrated6902
@underrated6902 Жыл бұрын
​@@MrTefesurprise surprise, it's close to the 🐐 1060
@anneneale5032
@anneneale5032 Жыл бұрын
Just love the humour and the way you take nothing seriously about tech. If we want serious results, I will watch Gamers Nexus. But your channel is funny and makes me feel better. Also, I love your Anna she's so cool, I wish we so her more often. Cheers!
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 Жыл бұрын
are you learning with lenode?🤣🤣🤣
@Dark.Shingo
@Dark.Shingo Жыл бұрын
@@raven4k998 LENOOOOOODE.
@bluewave2432
@bluewave2432 4 ай бұрын
This video just shows how good of a card the rx580 is nowadays. Another timeless piece of silicon!
@JRTheElectronicGuy
@JRTheElectronicGuy Жыл бұрын
I would love to test the card for some mining. See if there’s any difference whatsoever being able to use all 16 GB for crypto mining.
@Itz_Ciprian
@Itz_Ciprian Жыл бұрын
Day 53 of Ahoy there
@kevinwood3325
@kevinwood3325 4 ай бұрын
Solid choice for anyone needing a huge VRAM buffer on a budget. Linus Torvald comes to mind. Back in 2020, his personal workstation included a 3970X Threadripper and an RX 580. Dude doesn't need much GPU power, apparently.
@ProjectPhysX
@ProjectPhysX Жыл бұрын
Amazing! I'm waiting for modded 48GB RTX 3090‘s, which would be basically Quadro A6000's for cheap.
@jameslake7775
@jameslake7775 Жыл бұрын
My understanding is that modern Nvidia BIOSes are loaded up with additional security, so it's not possible on 20-series or newer to edit a BIOS yourself and have the card accept it. You can flash a low-end card with a factory BIOS from a card with more aggressive power targets and it will take, but if there isn't an Nvidia-authorized 48gb 3090 vBIOS, it's not going to work.
@laszlozsurka8991
@laszlozsurka8991 Жыл бұрын
There is a 48 GB 3090, it's called the 3090 CEO edition but unfortunately it didn't launch.
@baoquoc3710
@baoquoc3710 Жыл бұрын
@@laszlozsurka8991 what is this, a low-effort troll at nvidia? I'm not any company fans, not even pro-intel, but I expected better arguments than this.
@laszlozsurka8991
@laszlozsurka8991 Жыл бұрын
@@baoquoc3710 ??? This isn't any troll Look it up, a 48 GB 3090 CEO edition was reported back then but it didn't launch.
@teknoid5878
@teknoid5878 Жыл бұрын
Running Baldurs gate 3 at ULTRA with RX580, 1080 50-60ish, this card is truly legendary.
@therealericjackdaniels
@therealericjackdaniels 6 ай бұрын
"Circumsized Version" LMFAO - earned yourself a sub ;)
@luisolivera9307
@luisolivera9307 Жыл бұрын
I just don't know what I would do without a weekly dose of Dawid. Please keep this going! And thanks!
@Wooksley
@Wooksley Жыл бұрын
Ill make sure to include a Schengen Necromancer of Engineering in my next DND campaign lol.
@Dark.Shingo
@Dark.Shingo Жыл бұрын
My biggest takeaway is that video memory isn't as important as the panic for upgrade made people think. Newer games seem to ask for more but not really doing anything with it.
@jackielee297
@jackielee297 8 ай бұрын
Unless you're super competitive and needed top of the line setups, there's really no reason to rush for an upgrade
@FunkyM217
@FunkyM217 Жыл бұрын
And now, I wait for those same Necromancers to work their dark arts on an RX 6600 (Non-XT)
@reidster87
@reidster87 Жыл бұрын
Huh! Now I want to fire up my trusty Vega 64 Frontier Edition (16GB HBM2) and see what it takes to fully utilize the VRAM.
@FINNIUSORION
@FINNIUSORION 6 ай бұрын
that's actually pretty smart for marketing and sales. loads of people only pay attention to memory when they're buying a card. oh that's a 16 gig card wow!
@bcuongtran8294
@bcuongtran8294 Жыл бұрын
Interesting video,but it's a bit disappoint that you didn't test Ratchet and Clank, that game is a real VRAM hog with texture set to ultra.Anyway thanks for your works.
@BSF-7772
@BSF-7772 Жыл бұрын
you should test the ratchet and clank, metro exodus enchanted edition and Minecraft with x512 textures these games are the most vram intensive games I've tried on 8gb card
@recordatron
@recordatron Жыл бұрын
Good old 'Graphics Card'. Everyone's favourite! If only you could pair it with 'Central Processing Unit'
@eliasrayan6421
@eliasrayan6421 Жыл бұрын
Do you think this card is suitable for deep learning ? I mean, if you accept longer training times, 16gb of memory for less than $250 (I didn't find any mention about the price in the video) might be acceptable for broke computer scientists. The only issue is that AMD cards are much, much slower than NVIDIA's because most DL libraries are made with CUDA...
@alderoth01
@alderoth01 Жыл бұрын
It's crazy my 2nd gen RTX 3060 has more vram than most new cards lol. I thought I was getting on the ground floor with my single fan, amazon special, GPU, but its actually been a work horse, and since its so ridiculous to 16Gb Vram or higher on a GPU I feel extremely fortunate lol.
@jackielee297
@jackielee297 8 ай бұрын
It will last
@Eeveewashere
@Eeveewashere Жыл бұрын
Great opening to the video. Gives the He-Man Skeletor feels.
@greendragonfly4831
@greendragonfly4831 10 ай бұрын
I keep watching these trying to find the origin of my 580ste. It's the original with 8 pin AND 16gb. I'm running Elden Ring at 80fps with an 1155 motherboard.
@pauldoutre541
@pauldoutre541 Жыл бұрын
there is also the Sapphire RX 570 Blockchain -16GB graphics card (single HDMI port)
@zerora199
@zerora199 Жыл бұрын
Dawid is the first KZbinr I know to reuse clips for a sponsorship.
@Suc-Chii
@Suc-Chii Жыл бұрын
Funny thing there's also a RX590 GME, which is just an rx 580 with 40% more clocks. Which make it a slight slower 590 and slightly faster 580
@SabrinaWesker
@SabrinaWesker 4 ай бұрын
I have a 4gb version of the 750ti from some internet sale, and it was actually pretty decent back in the day with the extra vram. It overclocked very well! This made me think of it.
@Uberden
@Uberden Жыл бұрын
Hey mate, love the content. Is there any chance you can add Escape from Tarkov to your regular games you benchmark with?
@Dorraj
@Dorraj Жыл бұрын
He's used it for testing some stuff before, but the problem is that Tarkov is still in very active development. A run now is different than it was before, and will be different from the future. Plus the game has some whacky usage on GPUs.
@Kardall
@Kardall 11 ай бұрын
I am actually surprised how well the 5700 XT is doing right now in Starfield. Being a minimum spec, I have been tinkering with it and I can get some pretty high settings and still hovering around the 60fps without FSR. Quite surprising. Before when there would be something like a GTX650 minimum, the game would have to be run on low settings to get 60fps.
@bobbastian760
@bobbastian760 4 ай бұрын
The reason they did this is that there's now a view that you really need a 16Gb card period.
@KimBoKastekniv47
@KimBoKastekniv47 Жыл бұрын
Dawid testing 2018 games wondering why they don't use more than 8GB of VRAM.
@yves1926
@yves1926 Жыл бұрын
I love this sort of product, so original
@luciantermopan
@luciantermopan Жыл бұрын
It would be really cool if you would take those two cards to a modder/electronics service shop and swap the 16GBs of VRAM from the Chinese card to the Asus 580. Maybe a 1440p budget card for 2023?
@Darth001
@Darth001 Жыл бұрын
Now that is a good idea
@raevn11
@raevn11 Жыл бұрын
I had this card back in $2018-19 on 9400f and it was really good for the price. Bought it on eBay for $200 at the time. Gigabyte I think. I could play MEA on high on a 4k 55" LG tv. Old tech should get better as software improves, pretty neat.
@joshuascholar3220
@joshuascholar3220 Жыл бұрын
Why did they SAND DOWN the memory chips?
@Phil8719
@Phil8719 8 ай бұрын
10:31 - It's interesting that 100% GPU usage is reported here when the framerate is being limited due to VRAM capacity, and it looks like it's not using all 8GB for some reason
@Kaelidoz
@Kaelidoz Жыл бұрын
now do a "is better than I expected" video about this gpu while using stable diffusion :p
@OzelBlox
@OzelBlox Жыл бұрын
Babe wake up, Dawid has posted!
@giorgipatarkatsishvili1221
@giorgipatarkatsishvili1221 Жыл бұрын
That Rx580 has more memory than my laptop and phone combined 💀
@chincemagnet
@chincemagnet 10 ай бұрын
22 FPS Duhwid: it’s performing quite well.
@hotjob9141
@hotjob9141 11 ай бұрын
This is straight up an Etherium mining card, where memory counted for more than the graphics processor. With Etherium gone to proof of stake, the designers have to sell it somewhere.
@nathangamble125
@nathangamble125 2 ай бұрын
This is the ideal GPU for modded Skyrim and Minecraft... And pretty much nothing else beyond that.
@naniwara8673
@naniwara8673 4 ай бұрын
I am probably getting an RX580 so this 2048SP MADE IT REEEEALLY easy for me to know I was gonna get bonked.
@Betonoszlop
@Betonoszlop Жыл бұрын
Damn i thought the card is gonna crash after the 8 GB usage BUT NO! Engineered well, actually worked. Damn!
@keh998
@keh998 Жыл бұрын
I think the reason they frankenstein 16gb because it used to be used for mining purpose
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