How Is Gaming On An 8-Year-Old PC In 2023?

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[@HUYI1]

the graphics card and the specs holds up well regardless of how old it is, i'm honestly impressed

[@RiverHolloway-wm5jf]

A 22 year old pc would like to say otherwise 😂

[@AndersHass]

Not well enough for Windows 11, lol

[@Mirra2003-f9s]

@@AndersHass Windows 11 can install easily on anything that can run 10. I installed it on an old 4th gen i5 and it runs perfectly

[@drew2626]

@@Mirra2003-f9syeah but you you probably aren’t gaining on it

[@Mirra2003-f9s]

@@drew2626 I actually tested it with the games that were known to run ok on it with 10 and it's the same performance with 11. As long as you got 8GB of ram minimum everything works exactly the same. I tested this on many older computers just to see what they can do and it's fine. Also tested it on 2nd gen i7,AMD FX,I7 7th gen,Intel Core 2 Quad...they can all handle it

[@Drew1218s]

The 10 series of cards was the best ever , nobody can change my mind of that. They hold up quite well all these years later.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

I would argue that the Geforce 4 Ti (especially the 4200) and the 8800 (especially the GT) deserve to be in the GPU hall of fame. The Ti 4200 offered amazing performance and did not only beat the FX 5200 but also the 6200 with no problems. And the 8800 GT came at a midrange price but offered highend performance. I don't see a 4080 Super at the price of a 4060 Ti anywhere.

[@AfridonDeaddark]

True - I used gt 8800 from Dec 2007 to Dec 2017 it cost me 260$ brand new - inagine 4080 cost 260$ now.7​@@HappyBeezerStudios

[@richardp3350]

GeForce 900 wasn’t to far off either, but 10 Series is prime 👍🏻

[@Mox2077]

the 10 series was also the last batch of nvidia cards before they lost their damn mind with regards to pricing.

[@Martin2112]

Ran this config for years! The 6700 still does OK, popped it in a system with a 1650 to sell to a friend and he's very happy with it :)

[@demonzero677]

Hell I have an i7 6700k and 2070 super paired together in my old machine and it does just fine.

[@drew2626]

@@demonzero677how does that dark ages quad core not bottleneck the 2070?

[@appsaucetech]

It does very heavily.

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

Great! I’m glad your friend is enjoying that system. 😃

[@aizazrehman5153]

bruh I just did the same but I installed a 580 and gave it to my friend. Dude sends me a clip of him playing beamng driving a truck and slams into 10 cars and then does a thumbs up which I guess equates to him being happy about it

[@demontekdigital1704]

Man, I love those old, gamer-aggressive cases. That was back when case companies didn't really care so much about thermals because aesthetics were top dog. Then again, back then parts didn't get nearly as hot as they do now. These days they can't get away with ignoring thermals because phrases like "space heater", and "house fire" come up at every design meeting, lol.

[@black_baguette]

Imma be honest, they could sell that today and I wouldn’t have known it was a design from 2015😂

[@cXnJohn]

My aging 8700K would like to disagree with you lol Its hot even with a decent 240mm AiO.

[@Adrianwe44]

Still has better airflow than an Alienware 😂👍🏻

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

@@black_baguette I agree, it’s also made of surprisingly good materials. It’s held up super well.

[@demontekdigital1704]

@@Adrianwe44 LMAO, so true. Each Alienware should come with a BDSM safe word with all the choking it does.

[@patpatboy2]

The GTX 10 series were definitely the most beautiful Founders Edition ever. BTW, you don't have to remove the entire shroud to repaste. There's a few screws that holds down just the heatsink & window part of it that'll give you access to the die without taking out that many screws.

[@DengueBurger]

I love the 30 series founder edition cards. So clean. I love minimalism.

[@fafiteee]

for me, the RTX 20 Super cards were the best looking FE cards (ignoring the fact that they were apparently horrible to work on).

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

The 700 and 900 cards had a simple design without being overly edgy. 8but the cooler wasn't that great in a well ventilated case, in some tight OEM case maybe fine, typical blower cooler) The 10 series went a bit too far for me, the 20 series went a step back and was more understated again and the 30 and 40 cards look very industrial. And the 8800 GT back in the day looked amazing. So much power in such a small and sleek package. Sadly the cooler didn't do that well in terms of cooling.

[@k1er4n544]

And good design out weighs flashy RGB garbage I like the minimalist looks of older 10 series cars card especially the black titan card that thing is nice

[@lemagreengreen]

Still my favorites too. They just feel pleasingly heavy and are obviously good quality, I like how simple it is to clean the heatsink as well without having to do much disassembly. 20 series were pretty cards too but I love the 10 series the most.

[@0XiDiZE]

Really similar to my little mITX beast - 6700K and GTX 1080 Founders Edition still going strong almost 8 years later!

[@mcslender2965]

I dig the case a lot. Something tells me that the motherboard is standard mini ITX and perhaps you can rig your own shroud to combine with a 92mm tower cooler to replace the OG CPU cooler

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

That does a lot. Could even go more ghetto and just use a paor (or three) fans on it. I did that with my 8800 GT back in the day and got temps down by 30°C on the stock single slot cooler.

[@joe--cool]

I'd doubt that with the upside down PCI-E slot.

[@petercollins1122]

Thanks so much for doing this one. I don't have this Lenovo system specifically, but I've been using the same pair of the 6700 / GTX1070 in my system for years now. I ran into exactly the same problem with RAM, the system is limited to 2133MHZ. I upgraded recently from 16gb to 32gb because a few modern games (Wonderlands, Baldur's Gate) were really getting into RAM limitation issues. The big benefit of this setup is the balance. As noted, the CPU / GPU are extremely well-paired with one another, and it's rare to max out the GPU without the CPU coming close. This means that the setup has lasted a long time and really maximized usability of the components. Unfortunately, the big problem with this setup is upgradability - the CPU / GPU / MB are all so well-paired with one another that there isn't really room to upgrade one without running into the limitations of the others, and the only real upgrade path left is to sell the system in a craigslist knife-fight and build a new one altogether.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Interesting how i7-6700 / GTX 1070 is so well balanced, while i5-3570K (with oc) / GTX 1060 is CPU limited.

[@mugglepower]

oh wow thats my old pc, had the version with 1080 from 2016 to 2022. college times went quick...

[@vadortech]

Mom, David bought another pre-built again.

[@KryptGamingTv]

There’s usually a way to enter a more advanced menu in the bios that lets you adjust the ram frequency. I can’t remember it off the top of my head but my hp prebuilt had the same thing and I had to hold like ctrl and press f10 or something to enter the advanced menu for the bios where I was able to set my ram to 3600mhz

[@vadenkwin]

I built a mITX Strix board with a 6700K, strix 1070, 16GB of DDR4 2400 and an SF650 in a Fractal Node case and it works great for a LOT of games. I'm not playing Cyberpunk at 4k but SWTOR, MWO, Stray, DA Inquisition and a lot of last gen and older games run amazing (at 1080) I keep it at the PC shop I work at and play on it every day with no regerts. And YES, the ram speed is limited to 2133 with the 6th gen, even with a high end strix board.

[@mredwintie]

Seeing your title I gotta add that I am currently watching this video with a 20 ish year old PC. Dell Dimensions 9150 running a Pentium D processor. I've curated this and running Linux Lite and it holds up, watching your videos in 1080p. Having lots of fun watching your videos so keep them coming! Happy holidays too, Dawid!

[@LTC_Tiger]

I’m still using a 4770K system built in 2013 combined with a 2080Ti that I swapped in back in December 2018. The system is now 10 and a half and runs everything I throw at it without too much fuss. Other than RTX being off it runs Hogwarts Legacy, a game released in 2023, on 1440p Ultra without issues.

[@dirtybird2202]

Wow haven't seen a BTX case in years. If I had that case I would mod the top screened areas with a more open type of screen for better airflow to the system and the graphics card, that would help pull those temps down. And probably make a filter you could remove and clean eastly. I like the look of that case, might have to see if I can find one myself. Though would change those leds to a blue, not as shocking to the eyes when playing in a darkened room. Just my preference is all, not a big red fan. And it's funny on that card as I have a EVGA GTX 1070, though not a founders edition but still a worthy card and still going strong today on an old build of mine. Though it needs a power supply now as a storm took that out. Guess I need to fix that old UPS I have and get it back up to protecting those systems. Just need about 100 dollars of batteries for it though that's fairly cheap for a pure sine wave ups considering it's a 350 dollar unit. That old system plays games like Warframe beautifully, and all the Fallouts including that Dumpster fire of a game called Fallout 76. Skyrim and tons of other games. Won't buy the new Loading screen simulator from Bethesda you know..... Star Field. Though do keep tabs on it to see if it's improving. Yep Bethesda taught me a really hard lesson on pre buying into a game. Never again from them. Still has win 7 on that old system, it's great for older games. And the ASUS P5E Deluxe motherboard won't do Win 10 after one of Microsoft's updates, so had to revert back to Windows 7 which I like anyway. Can still load and play a lot of my old game library on it that Windows 10 just won't do. And no not a Windows 11 fan will wait as long as possible or just go ahead and pull the trigger on Linux full time. Which that older system won't mind in the least. Well I'm slowly building a new system with a Lian lee case I have always wanted, and finally got it when it went on a really good sale. Can you still get BTX motherboards ?

[@readycheddar]

Dawid, The only thing I hate about your videos is that they aren't longer.

[@edwardelgar]

This video was exactly 13:37. I think that was intentional :-)

[@chrishorgan2372]

My PC is nearly 8 years old now and still runs well. It's an i5 7600K on an Asus Z270H with an Asus Rog Strix 1070Ti and 32GB of 3200 DDR4. It's still Ok for VR and flatscreen gaming.

[@something4114]

I'm on a similar setup at the moment, finally upgrading and I can't wait.

[@FlukeFIN]

4:49 herdoedoe😂 I bought a HP minipc for desktop use but then ended up connecting a GTX1070 to it with a ADT-link M.2 to PCie adapter. HDPlex 250W passively cooled PSU for the GPU. Also modded a overkill-size heatpipe cooler the the CPU to keep it real silent and cool (i7-7700T). Installed the cooler thru a hole made into the PC case. The whole system built into a few liter aluminium rack. Really surprised how it handles the games, even pretty new ones.

[@Darksjeik]

Pre builts typically cheap out on motherboards because most people are focused on the GPU first and CPU second. More often than not you'd find lower tier B boards or even H boards in there. Swapping it out would probably gain you performance.

[@shawndixon4536]

As of 2 years ago, I was gaming on an 8 year old laptop with an i7-4700, 16GB ram, and a GTX-860M. I like sim racing, and it worked good for most, but when attempted to do any online racing, it couldn't handle it. Ended up with a new 12th gen cpu and a 3070ti, with 16GB, which I just recently replaced with 64GB.

[@TypeiZ]

im gaming in an alienware aurora r4 (2013). i just upgraded tot 32gb ram and a 2060 over the years. I can ensure you i have a great gaming expierience! The only reason i bought a new laptop today is only because i needed a mobile solution. But if this wasnt the case i would use my aurora r4 at least 5 more years.

[@AtlassGaming]

I daily drove the ATX precursor (Ideacentre Y700) to this pc with an I5-6400 and a GTX 960 for years. held up nicely

[@pyroslev]

Big props to Lenovo and the knife fighter you defeated. The system held up well.

[@dianaalyssa8726]

Still have around a pc from this era. Interesting watch.

[@MrBalrogos]

Gtx 1070 is super good card, i still use it BF1 and BF5 all on Ultra with 60-90fps, new world 60fps+, i think the 1000 series from nvidia was one of best series ever relased.

[@shrishpotdar343]

Ram speeds on the 6th gen only will extend upto 2400mhz so the benchmarks are almost the same.

[@bigdog95321]

Holy hell. That uptime @4:29 is crazy! Roughly 5 months. That's wild!

[@GoldenGodlike]

omg this was my first gaming pc in 2017, i really wanted to play h1z1 and this done the job! res 7 was so good on it aswell. but mine had a rx 480 lol

[@mjjohansson1702]

My PC will turn 7 years old soon. The 8700k still works great and I swapped my 1080ti for a more energy efficient 3060ti last summer when they were real cheap around here.

[@denisruskin348]

I'm still running a heavily OC'd 7700K with a 3080 :D. Granted, in very demanding CPU titles it can have some issues, but other than that, I just fly over everything at 4K with DLSS quality or balanced. Now with the AMD FG mod that allows DLSS to be used with it, I can also mitigate most CPU bottlenecks by using frame generation in all Nvidia titles. Though yeah, I'm loking for a 7800x3D for next year as emulation is pretty bad on this CPU.

[@mjjohansson1702]

@@denisruskin348 I have been looking at 7800x3d as well but I don't play that much anymore. But it would be a fun upgrade.

[@arion45]

I am still rocking a 970 and it runs things well.

[@Kerdam78]

Dawid, no matter how depressed I am or how bad life gets or how badly I don't want to be here. I appreciate you always giving me a smile. Thanks Dawid

[@johnhudson7055]

I love the old machine, especially the look of it.

[@Galiant2010]

4:46 "huhdudud" caught me so off guard I actually snorted in a painful way lol.

[@ghufranrabbani3445]

Oh dear David I found your one video randomly and since then I have been watching for videos on repeat like a mad child who snorts cocaine. Even in my work place my co worker always asks me do you even understand what he's telling in the video because I randomly start laughing while watching listening to your puns and roasts. Thank you for being such an entertaining person pls make some for bit of comedy you do while making the video like when you bang your head with boxes or that one time when you open a craiglist PC and boss battle music play. These types of small bit are always unpredictable and too funny 🤣🤣

[@buildyourcomputer]

The ram speed is limited to ddr4 2133 by the cpu not lenovo, my 6700k on msi board is the same. 6th gen could work with ddr3/4 like 12th gen with ddr4/5. i should really buy a 1070 for a game machine when my kids friends come over.

[@sterkriger2572]

That's mostly my configuration except I have a i7 7700. The 1070 can be pushed really hard for most games and holds up well in 1080p

[@kylewylde7548]

i really like the lay out of components in this case. very nice craigslist pick

[@xbass97x]

I still run a 1070 with an i7 7700. Can still play most games with decent graphics and framerate. Sadly I can't imagine it will be able to do so for much longer and I definitely don't have the money to upgrade.

[@TheOriginalJadolph]

I can tell you first hand as someone with an i7-6700k and an R9 390 Nitro, its not holding up well, mostly due to unsupported drivers. Can still play most games at 1080p with atleast 60fps though

[@an3k]

When you talked about "the ages of quad cores" olf me thought about Core2Quad CPUs and was confused because the case had USB 3.0 ports 😂

[@constantinosmavroyannis9409]

i had one of those gpus. great piece of hardware. a real workhorse. you didnt need to remove all those screws for repasting though

[@AnticipatedHedgehog]

I'm pretty impressed with the aggressive design even if it's a bit corny. Thermals weren't terrible either, not bad!

[@saturnotaku]

You can also use Intel XeSS on an NVIDIA GPU. It won't take advantage of the AI accelerated features that are exclusive to the ARC line obviously, but in a lot of cases it does look better than AMD FSR. Speaking of ARC, I think the A770 reference card is the best looking stock GPU ever.

[@drew2626]

Personally I’d give that title to the RTX 20 series or 4070 FE

[@mariuspuiu9555]

without the native ARC accelerated features, the fallback doesn't really look better than FSR 2. there might be one or two games that have a really poor FSR implementation.

[@sleepybunnynorbun1039]

the GTX1060ti, 1070, 1080 and 1080ti are still completely usable. They will ofcourse start falling more and more behind. But if you are on a budget then you aren't aiming for top fps in the newest games anyway. Swapping the motherboard out for something that can change ram speed might help alittle in some titles. But overall I don't think it would matter a whole lot. Seems like a fairly balanced system for the time.

[@glub1381]

It's crazy that the GTX 10 series is nearly a decade old, and yet still hold up today. And thanks to AMD, they can keep going for even longer with FSR upscaling and now frame generation.

[@hypogogix9125]

I built my computer in 2012. It had an i7 3930k and GTX690. In 2016 i replaced the 690 with a 1070. I still use this today.

[@iguardwisconsinberry8830]

I put my old 1070 OC into my system again for the hell of it and The last Of Us on my new 1440p monitor was only getting 20ish fps on low settings on the 'fall' part of the game.

[@ciairian]

I have this cube with a 7700 and a 1060 6gb, and it still is kicking pretty well for what I play. I just upgraded and built my own PC which will be quite the upgrade (12700k with an RX 6800) but i will miss this little gremlin-faced machine 😭

[@JTScottOfficial]

My PC was and in part still is, nearly 7 years old, and games beautifully, my MOBO, and probably GPU, died, so it's a slightly newer system, and upgraded, but still the same CPU, RAM and SSDs

[@MrToastyYT]

The 1070 is still a great card, i had a 1060 6gb variant until roughly 2 months ago when i upgraded to a 7800xt and it played almost every game at max settings at 1080p with some games requiring lowered graphics and/or FSR, so i imagine the 1070 would be able to handle every game you throw at it

[@jakefrozt5]

8 years ago feels like yesterday

[@akr4s1a]

I can't be the only one who finds Dawid pointing his finger at the FSR menu for 15 seconds while VO is going hilarious.

[@LilTachanka]

I think people forget hoe powerful the 1070 and 1080 were. The 1070 and 1080 as like 1980s mercedes: overbuilt powerful yet simple

[@maciejszajnicki4479]

Hi David, great video. These things are still surprisingly good today, given their age. Moreover, the 1070 and the 1080 tune very nicely. 8 out of 10 will run with +100MHz curve on stock volts, i.e at 1995, where yours was pegged at 1860. Just a few clicks in the Afterburner :)

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Yup, I run my 1060 on +140 MHz for 2114 MHz boost and +625 on the memory for 9244 MT/s

[@alejandromg535]

Probably the card Will boost more now and stay more time at 1850Mhz using more power. Mine 3070 ventus 3x if I improve the speeds of the case and something more on the gráfica boosts more to the 1950MHz if the card goes Up to the 70°c the card starts to slow down the core freq

[@ILikeStyx]

I'm on an i7-7700 with 16GB RAM and a GTX 980Ti 6GB... still works pretty well for 1080p. If I could afford something newer I'd have it :P

[@shawnm8232]

I'm still gaming on a 1080 Ti. Everything runs fine. Maybe I'll get a new card in a couple of years when I go 4k. Probably 8k will come out by then.

[@kidShibuya]

Why do people think thermal paste needs to be moist? It only needs moisture to spread out in the initial application.

[@matthewplehn4271]

probably because the Pascal series of cards were arguably very very good. The Polaris variant of AMD cards were also good.

[@aizazrehman5153]

I was till recent using a 1070ti that I bought used in 2019 for like a 100 bucks. Just upgraded to a 6700xt but man do I have massive respect for the 10 series cards

[@rando5673]

I'd love to see a video of the BEST hardware from the 10-series era (GPU, RAM, CPU, etc) compared to a budget, midrange, and top of the line system from today

[@doughnatsu]

Thank you, AMD🙏

[@Ryuraaan]

Bro when you use V-sync on heavy games like Cyberpunk will you get more frames. Try it!

[@JamesRobinson-x8n]

Funny mine came with a Lenovo OEM blower style 1070 rather than the founders that you got

[@jierenzheng7670]

I actually used a i7-5775C with 16GB DDR3 2400MHz paired with an A770 to play SoTR and was surprised it works. Kinda bottlenecked by CPU though.

[@tristanhartford7701]

I have a i5-7600k with a GTX 1050

[@David-ve2ro]

As a casual PC gamer with a 1070ti, this video further reinforces my believe that I have no reason to upgrade

[@trbdann2]

I run everything of my 1080ti today! it does look great, but it's not like we can see it... IDK who tought of graphics cards design considering how they're oriented in a PC... makes no sense. And I don't get why it's not brought up more. Visually: Here's a BACKplate for you.

[@hellcat3981]

4:48 Nah that "HöDöDö" got me 💀

[@Titanicus2]

Since my x5650 still plays games well I would have been shocked if a 6700 couldn't game!

[@FlyingGuy123]

10 days without a dawid video. I'm jonesing

[@mrlodwick]

Happy Xmas to you and Anna bro.

[@92xzz]

I got one of those from my stepgrandpa, altho it was the i5 6500 version

[@TheRealRuddRants]

Plot Twist: Ellie Williams is a Princess Oldie-but-goodie GPC Smiter.

[@deivistrefl2981]

6:30 I love me some CS:GO 2...

[@masud2582]

Amd saving old stuff of his great enemy

[@dunumanz1679]

Another Dawid video les gooooo

[@alsy342]

Few months ago i sold my i7-6700K with Z170A mobo it was such a great cpu but i think it was pretty limited by just that 4 cores, i ran 3466 MHz ram btw, big jump in performance from that 2400. I actually had a 3600 MHz ram but with that frenquency PC was crashing quite a lot. Ofc u need XMP to achieve that frequency

[@wakcedout]

You ain’t getting mad settings that’s for sure but it should handle at minimum.

[@adsr14]

Just spit out my apple cider when you said “3TB hududu”

[@alexb.1320]

That plain jane unassuming ram is definately a Lenovo feature.

[@RobertFixit]

Looks like some sort of sith battleship

[@LukeTheJoker]

I actually really like that case! I wonder if Dawid could build a newer system in there?

[@Linkachus17]

6:30 CS:GO 2😂 I mean yeah sure why not? still a CS in the end

[@Chris-yc3mm]

Had an up time of 161 days according to task manager

[@charlotteritchie9969]

That's actually a really cool pc

[@pokerfaccia]

Very nice video, thanks very much! What is the software you're using to display che performance?

[@BloodStarGg]

I think could of been better performance if that 6700 boosted over 3.7 I wonder if Lenovo locked it to 3.7 thought stock it should get to 4

[@G00LARG]

Very good looking graphics card btw love ur vids keep up the work!!

[@wrippley103]

I'm still gaming with a ten-year-old pc x99-a, i7 5820k, gtx 980ti.

[@GeForce210]

please compare i3 7100s HD 630 (iGPU) with GT 710 2GB DDR5 🥺

[@MarceloAugusto-fb1lx]

Try swapping the mobo for one that supports faster RAM :')

[@denisdemo2657]

duration of the video 13:37 ? nice some op leet experience right here

[@alexarnold6773]

My 7700 and 1060 did not hold up nearly as well. My 1660ti however performed much better than this despite having less vram and a theoretically slightly worse performance.

[@khalyl7282]

crazy how this is considered old pc while my pc with quad core q9500 and 6gb ram and a r7 250 oc 2gb is still kicking (its not)

[@RoofusRoof19]

Finally some PC content

[@solofalcon]

upgraded from an i5 6600k to a i5 13600k earlier this year

[@gametime2473]

It stunning how little progress NVIDIA has made since the 1080ti.

[@ChaFairchild]

Don't tell me an i7-6700 is 8 years old... It's making me feel old