Day 1 Disaster - Flight Simulator 2024

[@desupernoodle]

Let's not bully Microsoft over this, they are only a small indie dev team made up of a hundred thousand employees with a trillion dollar market cap.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yep 😂

[@adamkamieniarz9223]

They certainly also dont have acces to enough server power to let the player quickly load the map, it probably all runs on an old office PC sitting under CEOs desk.

[@babytronsab]

sounds like activision blizzard just a little multi-dollar studio

[@Arachnoid_of_the_underverse]

@@adamkamieniarz9223 Too many allocated to Roblox me thinks 🤣

[@johnkitsi]

​@@babytronsab yes like there's not a reason sony to be annoyed

[@balaam_7087]

I think the Wright Brothers’ first plane had a smoother flight

[@thebaron9059]

And the Titanic had a more successful launch!

[@ultraviolet2497]

But the Wright brothers could actually see the ground

[@zDToddy]

The Hindenburg

[@lukasgroot]

Took world textures from flightsim 2000, oops.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

😂

[@no1DdC]

@@RandomGaminginHD Ironically, Microsoft Flight Simulator 2000 was also a very buggy release.

[@smugmode]

@@no1DdC I didn't mess with it, but was the previous MS Flight Simulator also buggy on release? The one the came out a couple years ago

[@no1DdC]

@@smugmode There were server issues at launch, but not as severe. It was not nearly as buggy.

[@PropaneWP]

Brought to you by the company that wants to make everything server based.

[@digitaljon1109]

My internet is 5 Mbps, I hope not everything will be server based.

[@micha-8659]

It's not only the speed that's the problem but also how long will these servers be up? The game will not be playable without servers, will the servers be "free" or will you have to have to pay for faster servers down the line?

[@corgistaniel1150]

"Next time we'll be testing Stalker 2" You sure know how to pick 'em

[@mearpitjain09]

"I wanted to put something out" seems to be the approach taken by many game studios recently

[@IcebergTech]

Wow, you're flying as high as the blood pressure of Flight Sim fans every time you call it a "game"

[@RoiDeCoeurs]

But it's a plane simulation wdym ?!?!

[@RandomGaminginHD]

😂

[@16driver16]

Life itself is a game...

[@DatSun.]

​@@RoiDeCoeursproving his point

[@KILRtv]

The classic ones were pretty much games, too. X-Plane is more of a simulator than a game.

[@ehrensto]

MSFS 2020 had such a nice thing going for it. Why did they even try to make a sequel that looks almost the same instead of just updating the damn game?

[@christopherbazaka1564]

so they can make you pay more MONEY

[@Covid-bv4hp]

MONEY

[@MarkOffski]

Once again Microsoft expects us to pay for the privilege of being beta testers for their unfinished products, as with every other of their releases.

[@mikesunboxing]

True

[@Crunchy2304]

the game probably is ready. the servers arent.

[@leerobinson8709]

@@Crunchy2304 That's a pretty large component of the game since it is cloud based...

[@tiguymondou]

As with all their products! Its the same for Azure, Office, everything 😂 Their QAs are horrendous it's unbelievable. That's what a monopoly looks like.

[@real_rsaNoob13]

They admitted that the servers were ready for just 200k players on launch 💀That's why everything is broken

[@MrWaheedulHaque]

the plane isn't flickering, its just crying out for help

[@zaz6463]

That view of New York is lore accurate. I hate it when everything around me becomes a broken texture stretching for miles.

[@Prellium]

Welcome to cloud gaming.

[@cookiemonsta_za]

Cloudy with a chance of.................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................. Error 404 Meatballs Not Found

[@RiemsAI]

where everythings a blob of blurry cloud.

[@korchevatel]

Those aren't bugs, those are anomalies... Oh wait, wrong game!

[@kuehneniggle]

mmm mmm mmm lucky you getting it to load!

[@jonjohnson2844]

From what I've heard, like FS2020, the installation process runs some portion of the actual game which uses an absurd amount of GPU usage for what appears to be no graphical benefit at all...give me an old school installation wizard any day!

[@no1DdC]

Reminds me of the fact that the Epic Games Store desktop application is running on the Unreal Engine. I am not making this up.

[@Imjeezus]

So going from an RX5700 to RX5700XT is the same jump in quality as a GTX970 to an RTX2080..? They also keep the AMD CPU at the same generation just going from 2600x to a 2700x to get to recommended. But Intel CPU jumps three whole generations from a 6800k to a 10700k... Either they were high as a kite when they put this spec list together or they were high as a kite and using Chat GPT.

[@shaneeslick]

G'day @Imjeezus I think the RX5700 is a typo & should have been RX570, my thoughts are because RX5700 is 8GB & when you compare performance RX570 is similar to GTX 970

[@no1DdC]

Have you ever seen hardware requirements that made sense? I remember those being complete bunk even over 20 years ago, to the point that I ended up ignoring them completely. Just to name one example, Indiana Jones and the Emperor's Tomb from 2003 (which is really fun, by the way) claimed it required a 733 MHz CPU, 128 MB of RAM and a Geforce 256. This game was a complete slideshow on my system with an almost twice as fast CPU and several times faster GPU - until I doubled the RAM to 256 MB, which fixed all performance issues. If we look at Flight Simulators from that time, it gets even more similar to FS2024. Microsoft Combat Flight Simulator 3 from 2002 (based on the civilian Microsoft Flight Simulator from 2001) required a mere 64 MB of RAM and recommended 128 MB. I had 128 MB and the game needed half an hour to load into the main menu and another 15 to load into the game. The aforementioned doubling of the memory also fixed this issue. And no, I wasn't running anything in the background.

​@@shaneeslick It is not. I have an RX580 and the game crashes with a DirectX error upon launch. It's an architectural requirement. The game needs DX12, but more precisely DX12_1. MS does not state this anywhere. The RX570 only supports DX12_0.

[@shaneeslick]

G'day Péter Friedrich thanks for that explanation, that is interesting & should really be something included in the requirements, 🤔wonder why they didn't say 5500XT/5600XT either then ???

[@ishiddddd4783]

its about gpu's that have driver support, even then it makes no sense, but you won't see polaris cards in minimums anymore

[@redhoodedduke9967]

I saw the reviews last night at 11pm and was wondering how they got it THAT bad.

[@DISCOSHOEBOX]

The textures remind me of the 1987 Chuck Yeager Advanced Flight Trainer game that I used to play on Dad's IBM XT

[@boyermchristopher1]

I remember that game.

[@Gamenvironmentalist]

Even Microsoft recommending Win10 for a newly released game is WILD bro

[@KILRtv]

I noticed that too.

[@vinyfiny]

Pilotwings 2024 really took a step back in quality.

[@babytronsab]

cant wait till you do a stalker 2 test, I heard theres some performance issues but they're probably gonna release a patch

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah I’m looking forward to testing that haha

[@whohan779]

Bruh, seriously? I've just had the FS24 install fail on me first try (Windows 11 just freshly installed) and now Stalker 2 is being installed. How is literally every new Game Pass release so underwhelming? Glad I only bought a non-stackable code off Gamivo.

[@ironbru1986]

@@whohan779 Well to be fair to the Stalker 2 devs, they were and still are developing the game while quite literally being in the middle of being bombed with air raid sirens going off.

[@slavboii420]

@@whohan779 I think the Stalker games have always been riddled with performance issues so this is nothing out of the ordinary here

[@whohan779]

@@slavboii420 For their asset size, probably. What worries me is that this time these games aren't low double digits (in GB) large, but about ten times larger. Unless you have very bad culling or post-processing issues a GPU bottleneck can always be alleviated with newer hardware. But if there's a gamelogic shortcoming, performance might be bad even on the latest Ryzen X3D or 6 GHz [whatever]9.

[@gamingforpizza5142]

So how are those DEI hires working out for you MS?

[@commiewhacker64]

Or those outsourced developers...

[@gamingforpizza5142]

@@commiewhacker64 If they outsource that means 20,100 people at microsoft game studios sit around doing nothing and posting on Instagram all day. Which proves my point even more.

[@evilpotatoman9436]

Play a videogame world from a server they said... It would save you alot of Disk space they SAID... No thx I will be waiting for the 1TB version of the game that I can download.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah I’d rather the massive download tbh haha

[@no1DdC]

The game is about 2500 times larger than that, unfortunately. You'll be waiting for a long time for an offline version of that. Last time I checked, it would cost a low six figure sum at current hard drive prices to store this much data locally.

[@no-barknoonan1335]

​​@@no1DdCFS2020 worked on my PC and this one doesn't. As a consumer, all I need to worry about, is whether it's a good product or not. This is not a good product, idc what they are trying to do, I don't need that kind of storage if the previous game looks about the same and ran fine on a standard PC. I will be sticking to FS2020 and refunding this game until they fix it.

[@ArakiSatoshi]

Thank you for making a critical video, situations like these should be met with full force from the community to not let the mindset "just wait until it's fixed" become the norm

[@heru_ur6017]

Run down the 2 hour refund window by holding you in a login queue , dirty move.

[@jasonlewis810]

Your minimum spec footage reminded me of The Langoliers mini-series I watched when I was a kid.

[@HiteshBhagatGameTech]

This is why i disliked the idea of having a cloud based sim. A 400gb install is much better than this shit where you take away all the assets and models to cloud then you get stuff like this , flying with 1 engine coz the other one didn't load.

[@leetattitude6808]

Having been to New York, I can testify that it didn't look unusual.

[@RiemsAI]

Game review: Extremely negative Reviewers review: Extremely positive wit a huge touch of sarcasm.

[@rusty3493]

This video had me creasing lmao.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Thanks 😂

[@inesis]

7:06 Looks like Flight Simulator from 1998...

[@johnny5805]

There's an MSFS 2024 ??!! No pun intended, but this flew under the radar ! My YT homepage is full of STALKER 2 stuff, but once anything about a new version of MSFS !

[@Profetorum]

You deserve more subscribers 😁 love your humor

[@ruinfox4108]

I have a question about the specs, it says for ideal nvidia you would want a RTX 4080 (I have a 4080 Super) but im not using the I7 it mentions, im using a Ryzen 5 7600x, on the AMD side for "ideal" however it says Ryzen 9 7900x, so because i have a better GPU than what it recommends but a worse CPU, how do you expect my PC to fair playing this game? (mind you i play on 1440p)

[@EBMproductions1]

*Ffs im not buying ANY new games till this is sorted because EVERY game is broken upon release regardless of hardware*

[@no1DdC]

Look into Indie games. Those tend to be in better shape, at least the standout examples are.

[@RedEverything]

Yep, I stopped buying games on release years ago.

[@deanchur]

@@RedEverything I got both Squeenix Deus Ex games for under $10 AUD because I waited, best money on games I've ever spent.

[@issyahboii28]

2:02 "I don't want to be a part of it" 😂😂

[@smugmode]

Legendary co-pilot A+

[@gregh1643]

Noticed this morning the servers were down for FS24

[@hugopnabais]

I've had exactly your experience! I was so disappoint that for the very first time in my life, after buying over 200 games in my life, I asked for a refund! And I barely got in on steam! And after the online servers problems, you have a game that clearly has many many bugs, in missions, in the airplanes, etc! It's not acceptable to release a product like this!

[@abdou.the.heretic]

So happy to see Jane's USAF got the Cessna implemented, also volumetric clouds... Nice!

[@justarandomdude800]

1:50 as someone in the US, can confirm that New York looks exactly like that. We have to have special sunglasses (like Gucci) to see through the endless colors

[@jishan6992]

Microsoft just finds a way to fumble anything they touch, its almost impressive

[@FINNIUSORION]

what happened to game developers? everything is broke on release now. I love flight sims, I was so excited for this but its unplayable on my pc. the textures or shaders just don't load most of the time. I have gig ethernet with a 13900k and a 6900xtx. I've tried everything including switching graphics drivers. is it optimized for team green gpu's? if my pc cant play it then people with lower spec pc's are screwed.

[@blindsight_music_]

can confirm 6:32 is almost entirely server issues. that’s not how low-end should look😂

[@christophermullins7163]

Expanded square balloon artifacts is a new one for me. The issue with new games.. You must start with an outlandishly beautiful graphics because you're afraid your game won't look better than the competition(as if anyone cares now) but as money runs out.. you start to starve the team's funding and must get the game out before it's finished and before your studio goes bankrupt. This is standard operating procedure. The industry needs to paradigm shift.

[@amazinganimationgaming399]

I don't know how you guys keep saying things are wrong with flight sim 2024 when I play it's literally completely fine. Like what

[@AngryMarkFPV]

Best review in some time, must be due to game of the year. Thanks for this!

[@kevinchester0533]

Still can't get past 97% on the PC.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

:(

[@sopcannon]

try using a vpn to another country

[@AlwaysBenevolence]

Yeah, I saw Stream review did floored me. Thank you for showing us that how it looks. I guess I better wait until 2026 as all bugs iron out even much better PC system.

[@mikewelch3747]

I remember back in msfs 2020 when the graphics were stunning and crisp and you could see detail as far as the eye can see because the draw distance was good and then all that got taken away when they released a sim update and it hasn't looked that good since

[@JoshuaG]

0:00 - 0:46 That one engine being wirelessly connected 😂😂😂

[@MarkHyde]

Leaving it for a few weeks. GP Ultimate PC player here too. Gald I still have my purchased copy of MSFS 2020 still installed.

[@randomtech94]

Now i manage to load in every single time, but encountered many bugs, for example the CJ4 liveries are broken, the 747-8 makes my fps go down to 10 and i many times got teleported to some random place in the atlantic ocean in free flight

[@visualdarkness]

I got in like 2h after the launch and had quite a good experience besides some bugs. Everything inflight and when walking loaded smoothly and scenery was quite improved.

[@KeradSnake]

I do like to think that this is what happens when you decided to just move almost everything to cloud based detail streaming. A reminder that almost all the detail you see in here are generated from their Azure servers. Hence the HD2 like login disaster as well

[@adambailey1993]

I know having 2 engines is a bonus but being able to see where your going would be a help. 🤣🤣🤣

[@karkovb1522]

It looks like the Google Earth browser hidden flight sim thing. Actually maybe that one looks better than this lol

[@tenpoundburrito]

Microsoft said they tested server load up to 200,000 people at once. I wonder how many people were there on launch day?

[@kieron88ward]

Etops, extended twin-engine operations is the aviation authority regulation for flying with one engine inoperative. Otherwise known as Engines Turning Or People Swimming.

[@paperclipmaniac]

You were up near central FL around 8:00, specifically Sebastian.

[@superamigo987]

4:18 This game is very suspenseful lol

[@greghudson4906]

It might be worse than AC Unity was on release and that’s saying something

[@alexmaclean1]

Feels like the last Sim City game launch. I find it amazing that a game made my Microsoft itself can't get enough server capacity.

[@drewnewby]

They were clearly going for the retro experience. Reminds me quite a bit of 3.0 on an XT.

[@ghosttheoremproductions5469]

Microsoft's idea of Everything As A Service continuing to demonstrate why it's a horrendous idea. Bright future.

[@johngalactus4014]

JayzTwoCents, Testing Games and now this channel 😅😅 What a disastrous flight!

[@szabolcsnyiraty]

How could they turn the table like this after the fantastic MFS 2020? How?

[@MINKIN2]

Some guy in marketing was like: "We should totally release a buggy mess and then fix it later. It worked for No Mans Sky and Cyberpunk rite? And people love those..."

[@alexmaclean1]

I'd love to see a revisit of this in maybe 3 weeks or so.

[@beagsx3]

I gave up trying to even get the game to start. The opening cinematic starts and the loading bar refuses to go past 9%. Left the PC for over an hour but alas it was not meant to be

[@Alvin853]

2nd engine is DLC now?

[@seeuinhell12fsx99]

Works fine for me now, I hope others are also through with the trouble.

[@kilotangosierra]

for the first time (going back all the way to flight sim 98), i've decided to skip this release. the cost is ridiculous, the internet requirements are ridiculous, and the required specs are ridiculous. i'd rather invest in something else

[@Person_gu]

As soon as i turned on my PC, i immediately thought was mine craft and asobo secretly working together? I didn't see any advertisements for minecrafts and flight sim so i figured this was a surprise or something

[@tubetube7025]

🔥🔥it's fiiiiiine this is fiiiiine 🔥🔥

[@ZERARCHIVE2023]

The gamers accepted this shit and are proud to support it Gaming is long gone

[@killerbsting1621]

I understand the thinking with streaming everything but I really dislike that we can't even choose to Install locally even if we have the 1000TB to do it....not cool. We should have the option to install instead of streaming. Not placing thst option in game is a mistake and i hope they can implement this in future

[@ibizenco]

I once bought the flight sim "Fly!", ages ago. The graphics looked veryh much the same. Microsoft, you funny jokers. 🤣

[@wrmusic8736]

Which computer farm did you rent to compile this game in 24 hours?

[@TheSound0fLegends]

You dont "think" its ready 😂😂😂😂😂

[@gamamew]

So they released Microsoft Flight Simulator for the N64?

[@webolabs]

No, it would look beautiful in N64

[@itsdokko2990]

how convenient... i left this game downloading before going to uni. just came home and i get greeted with this video. i guess i'll take my 50GB back

[@tomvandongen8075]

Sorry did those minimum specs say either a GTX 970 or an RX 5700?! That's wild

[@tyler6602]

The min spec intel CPU being the ever so common i7 6800k lol

[@arms08yuki84]

I guess that's typo RX5700 always comes with 8GB VRAM so that's actually RX570/470 4GB which is way more closer to GTX970

[@tomvandongen8075]

@@arms08yuki84 that makes a lot more sense! Still a crazy mistake to let slip through!

[@shaneeslick]

G'day Random, Yeah it does seem to be normal now when there are releases or updates that so many things broken it hard to know what is causing the problems, 🚛I'll stick to ETS2 as in all my years of playing I have never been so frustrated with Brokenness I turned it off🚛. 0:56 🤨I think in the GPU Minimum Spec there is a mistake, AMD maybe should be a RX570 not RX5700. 🤔First from what I understand there is no RX5700 4GB option, 2nd is Performance with RX570 close to GTX970 while RX5700 is nearly double GTX970 & actually much closer to their AMD Recommended GPU of RX5700XT. (Edit) It was pointed out to me by Péter Friedrich that FS 2024 requires DX12.1 & Polaris is only DX12.0 so RX550/590 won't work, still not sure why if they went with GTX970 why it says VRAM 4GB & they didn't chose the lower spec RX5500XT or RX5600XT though

[@AndreasJordanidis]

msfs2020 was the only game i preordered, was thrilled had a r5 2600 and a gtx 1660, at launch it took about 10 minutes to load up and it ran at 20-40fps on minimum settings with stutters and this kind of textures. id always load it up every now and then and see if it has been fixed, it never did. now with an i7-6700 and a rtx 3050 6gb while playable already, still taking more than 5 minutes to load in, i lost my interest... shouldve bought xplane which ran well even on a gt 710 and a x4 9550 i used to sport.

[@Iffy350]

Google Stadia wasn’t enough of a lesson on why streaming video games was a bad idea. The game trailers are rendered on literal super computers compared to the average PC Gaming computer.

[@kingeling]

1:00 what the hell is "bandwidth" supposed to mean without any context here??

[@andystech101]

It’s like Google maps when I’m on “e” on my phone haha

[@bulutcagdas1071]

Is it possible to test this on something like Nvidia Now Streaming thing? I mean it makes a lot of sense when you think about it, the game already downloads a ton of stuff while on the fly. So why not give that burden to Nvidia's servers? You just stream the game and just get the usual KZbin like video buffering instead.

[@TechTacics]

you can actually get faster than 900mb internet in uk, i was under same impression but the lady who called from city fibre said nope they do a 2.2gb download speed .... i dont know the price but i bet its more than the 900mb like i also have, something tells me that will not make a differance with the flight sim.

[@AcornElectron]

Watched it crash out a few times 😂 great stuff

[@ShaggyakaCalikzz]

To be fair, it would've passed as a DirectX 6 tech demo or something, or it's at least on par with Superman 64, so there's that

[@marcusellby]

Huge jump from recommended spec to ideal spec. Seems like recommended spec are not going to run the game super well, I guess they just put it there so that more people would buy the game. I have game pass so I will try it out as soon as it's fixed.

[@rafaelrodriguez1029]

MS presents THE TREMENDOUS TRASH

[@NicolajFlies]

Just opened my sim, and they had changed all of my settings. I’m so done with this!

[@davidalvarado9957]

Disaster? I got it free on gamepass and played right after the download no problem. Had trouble in queue the next day but ever since then smooth sailing. Im having a blast. What disaster?

[@LordmonkeyTRM]

I think the point is you're seemingly in the minority

[@lolmao500]

Maybe they should double the installation size or something to help with streaming and servers

[@Sadokiyo]

every game that comes out nowadays seem to be just alpha stage games released for public, i really don't feel like spending money on anything until they've been fixed into being at least playable

[@phudman]

It took me an hour to get into the game on my Series X. Textures loaded fine but the performance was rough.

[@barberforce]

Whatever plane im in just veers off to the left..... but yeah multiple Alt+F4's during set up for me