Daylight DC1 First Look: Out Of The Darkness

[@Design.Theory]

Thanks for the shout out. I loved hearing your perspective in this review!

[@TheMrMobile]

My pleasure - your video was very informative and I appreciate you sharing stories from the design process! Link for those interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYXHc6iYZqdsh7M

[@chrisdufford3759]

So cool to see a familiar face here! Great product, John!

[@Design.Theory]

@@chrisdufford3759 thanks emt chris!

[@itchylol742]

i like the reviews of more niche and specialized tech, keep up the good work!

[@ChristopherPoitras]

I like these too even though companies like this will probably be out of business in a few years.

[@drkrpr155]

@@ChristopherPoitras Still appreciate it for the curation & insightful angle tho

[@JMaxwell1000]

IF - and that's a big IF - the company actually offered real information about the product rather than showing endless footage about someone's personal experience with it, their feelings when they opened the box, etc., I'd be more inspired to explore it further. There's ZERO real information - just human interest fluff.

[@MikeOBrienMedia]

"so called kindle on crack" really got me hahaha As usual, great video! Nobody does it quite like MrMobile

[@janpul1590]

It's insane right, his video's don't feel like product video's, they just feel natural. No idea how he does it.

[@thefrener794]

Nonsense just buzz words to make you think it is edgy and deserving of the high price. 200 dollars at most.

[@mistermagnifico]

Came for product review stayed for the narrative

[@ziginox]

When I first saw the announcement, I had a feeling that it might be a reflective LCD. While using that tech itself isn't revolutionary, making it at such a high pixel density while maintaining contrast is impressive. The kindle-like frontlight layer is also a hell of a lot better than the one on my old Palm m515, where I first fell in love with the tech.

[@mrgw98]

I was thinking GameBoy and GameBoy Color, but PDAs are a great example too. It felt kind of weird for it to be touted as a new invention when it really is more of a refinement of a screen technology that has existed for decades now.

[@ziginox]

@@mrgw98 oh yeah, same tech as the GBC, thankfully it seems more reflective than the original GBA! I still hold the m515 in high regard. In an era before the Kindle, I read many books on that device. The color was a bit washed out for sure, but it was at least sunlight-readable in an era where backlights were lacking.

[@shiorinyan]

Yeah. Reflective LCD is pretty nice, and while I personally much prefer e-ink (Mostly, because it feels more comfy to *me*, and low refresh rate is a non-issue), its always nice for other methods... of achieving such things, to be developed, and put out on the market. More choice, always nice.

[@Natsukashii1111]

Reflective lcd is already sold by other companies in color too. This to me is just selling several times the price to tech bros something that already exist better.

[@vvvvvvvvvwv]

@@Natsukashii1111 Which other tablet has a reflective LCD?

[@squirtle88]

As someone who only uses tablets for personal use occasionally, this is a nice middle ground between e-ink and bright/glossy LCD and OLED devices, great battery battery life and easy to see outdoors while still being able to watch an occasional youtube video is huge in my opinion.

[@zeeshanzia7480]

Question is would u or how many people would buy for 799 ?

[@DrFumi]

I didn't hear you bring it up at all, I'm curious if you have any plans to check out the Super Note? I've fallen in love with my Nomad since I've gotten it, and it's whole gimmick is a very high refresh rate E-Ink display, to mimic the feeling of writing as much as possible.

[@Lord_Reset]

Having checked out the super note, it's hard to see any path forward for eink versus what daylight has with Livepaper. It's just... that much better!

[@Xingqiwu387]

The screen looks fantastic! PLEASE ditch the tablet functions and just go with the Daylight1 monitor. We have 4 tablets in our house already and do not want another. What we all need is user-/eye-friendly monitors, which are few and far between.

[@andrewarmstrong5266]

I love all the wee Star Trek references in your videos, a shot of the enterprise, lcars screen, and even trek vids, it’s a nice bonus to the vids playing spot the trek

[@Kbyte27]

The computer exterior is designed by John from Design Theory. So cool.

[@kingzach74]

Why does Michael Fisher only have 1.25 Million subscribers? He really should have WAY more, given he has the BEST written videos of any KZbinr on the planet. His like one of those introspective writers of television programs that are like documentaries. But done in such a way as to not be monotone like a lot of crappy documentaries, instead being a joy to watch and listen to. Just the right amount of passion and joy imbued to keep you awake and at the same time relaxed.

[@claudiobizama5603]

For me, the main feature is already there, the screen. But I will patiently wait for a second, third or beyond, revision of this. Once everything is ironed down and with hopefully with lower price.

[@U2haveanicedayty2]

Thank you so much for sharing Enjoyed. Glad that there are others enjoying peace and quiet outside.💯✌️

[@diasporadica]

Its a brilliantly written video. I like the idea behind the product, the fact that we acknowledge how distracting our digital lives have become and that there is movement in the tech industry towards solving it. Maybe some product in future will be able to suceed in helping us regain our focus.

[@maxpayne69.]

That silky smooth refresh rate on an e-ink display looks surreal & awesome!

[@Cromuland]

It's not an e-ink display. It's a customized LCD screen

[@Tyrone2714]

As somene who lives in a sunny country but likes working outdoors, i do like this idea quite a lot. It doesnt match my personal use case, but i can easily see how it'll could be very useful to some

[@WilderPoo]

I'm really keen to get one of these, if only the price was lower. I wish there was someone mass producing tablet sized transflective LCD panels, it's so good outdoors. My only experience with these is on my bike computer, which has a 64 colour display like this, their legibility in direct, harsh sunlight is fab.

[@Clockwork_Planet]

Holy cow, Slashdot! I didn't know it was still a thing. Your video prompted me to log into my old (circa 1999) account and fall down the rabbit hole.

[@harmymd]

Michael Fisher is so so so eloquent, I'm in awe!

[@MrMiddleWick]

Nothing better to combat the over reliance on gadgets of all sorts than to acquire a new expensive gadget, eh?

[@psychoboogie2]

great overview, have a nice shortcut for monochrome and turning off connectivity to focus on iPad. was thinking the same thing...

[@TamaraGirodie]

Huh. This turned out to be far deeper than a tablet review, and I agree with, well, everything you said. Keep taking care of yourself and your family Michael, best wishes to you all!

[@flyingpj]

Best get well wishes for your cat!!!!

[@PetriA83]

What's that foldable Bluetooth keyboard?

[@LordDroste]

touch screen could implement a crop border for touch access. so the bezels are just easier.

[@chengong388]

It’s a cheap low spec Chinese tablet but with a Gameboy screen. I welcome tablets with gameboy screens, it’s a decent idea but surely a custom game body screen doesn’t cost $500 per unit?

[@whiskeyshots]

I've got a Kindle Scribe that I absolutely love for reading ebooks, taking notes, and journaling. I could see myself replacing it with this. I'm excited to see what it's like at release. Also, he's right about the bezels, they make things more comfortable to hold, and I hold a grudge against the rest of the world for driving manufacturers to make them go away. 😁

[@MattTheriot]

I like the idea and I hope these eyestrain-free displays become more popular. If you want distraction free, though, nothing beats the Remarkable, IMO. It CANNOT browse the web. This is a FEATURE for a device cutting distractions. You can read, you can annotate, draw/write, you can send yourself an email with your documents, sync them, and that's IT. No checking your email, no surfing instagram, the device is TRULY exclusively for reading/writing/drawing.

[@mrgw98]

You should look into the Eyemoo S1 and the Hisense Q5. Both are also RLCD tablets, and also have stylus support, but they come with the added benefit of also being able to display color as well. They are also both half the price of the Daylight DC1.

[@thelitletiepnsy]

it seems great for a certain archive website

[@NBTJacklyn]

when he's a masterful script writer

[@Webinthamind]

Wish you the best tiur reviews are crisp to the point and transparent.

[@Chemy.]

Too expensive for my needs, I would like to see the final product and maybe a big brand using their tech so it becomes cheaper with mass production

[@HumblElephant]

once again, mr mobile has solidified himself as one of the BEST tech writers on this platform - like how the hell did this 12:30 video feel like 5 minutes??

[@253637zero2]

There's a video by the CEO Anjan Katta from only 3 weeks ago explaining how the display works CLAMING THE TABLET IS E-PAPER WITH TECHNOLOGY SIMILAR TO E-INK BUT MODIFIED TO HAVE THE HIGH REFRESH RATE WE SEE HERE, in actuality it's NOT e-paper display or use anything similar to e-ink at all, like MrMobile stated in this video. You can search "World's first 60+ FPS e-paper display | Daylight" and watch the video yourself. On their product website they only use the word "paper-like" to describe the tablet, however the page title of the website still calls it e-paper. If that's not a huge red flag I don't know what.

[@abdallica]

Can't wait for the Light Phone 3 review! Hope you can grab an early review unit.

[@jeanhaley3051]

haha, I literally just stumbled upon this yesterday and was wondering if anyone had a review on it, or wtf the screen was actually doing.

[@NotThatTallAtAll]

Hi! I would love it if you would cover the Sony Ericson Walkman phones, in your 'when phones were fun' series. I remember when I was about 11-12 me and all my friends used to have one. We would make short films and edit them right on the phone using downloaded mp3 files etc. It felt pretty ahead of its time. At least thats how I remember it. Thanks!

[@mbelm55]

Hey what's that live wallpaper behind Niagara?

[@Isaacandjed]

Love the Built To Spill shout-out in the opening monologue

[@GudieveNing]

I was sceptical, but the Wacom stylus compatibility and execution is good. Could be a saving grace.

[@IamThePreston]

@MrMobile [Michael Fisher] can you please do a review of the amazing Vivo X Fold 3 Pro? It wipes the floor with all compition including the upcoming lazily derived Z fold 6 and I was a samsung fan! I'd love to hear what you think!

[@maxmouse3]

Not for me but definitively cool! Great video, as ALWAYS!

[@Toguse]

Been fan of your videos, since you made it in previous channel. Then followed you here. I think in 8 years ago or so.

[@meric12131415]

Ahhhh I love that typewriter keyboard 😁 it pairs wonderfully with the dc1

[@avraw]

what is that phone that you are using

[@ExplosiveDisregard]

I tend to be an early adopter and became aware of this around a month ago. but the video of the creator with his thick beads and shaman outfit standing on a couch looking at his notes on the wall of a million dollar property didnt really feel great on my brain. "im revolutionary and a genius, and down to earth. buy my 800 dollar tablet to become one with yourself." also i noticed that they dont mention the resolution of the display, i want to say its like 150 dpi(less than 200 for sure) where modern eInk like the kindle is 300 dpi. its still interesting, but the price is way to much for me.

[@purplelord8531]

people absolutely roasted this under daylight's material I'm curious to see your likely much more nuanced take on the device, and I hope the daylight dream at least survives until a cheaper v2 - cheers! post video question - how does the screen reflectivity compare to that of an epaper display?

[@Lord_Reset]

It's very similar.

[@jazenka99]

With all the ewaste coming out lately, if it makes it to Version 2.0 I’ll take a closer look at it.

[@mrcraggle]

I only heard about this product recently and it seemed revolutionary. E-ink that refreshes at 60fps 🤯 unfortunately, that's not the case and people are being sold a lie. Considering the cost too, its a very niche product. I wonder how far you could get with a cheaper OLED Android tablet, slap a paper screen protector on it, set display to greyscale and use a minimalist launcher.

[@jh221177]

For an early product it's pretty cool the idea is genius with the right backing it would do great hope your little floof ball gets well soon I have 2 cats and our eldest is 16 we always worry but he's been doing fine

[@starliner2498]

Hello MrMobile! What is your favourite starship class from starfleet?

[@mateowoetam]

I remember comunicating with Daylight a few days ago about getting in contact with the GrapheneOS team, I hope and I believe that they might base their OS on it, which would be a lot better than AOSP, or any other bloated OS by OEMs. Let's hope they actually reached them an are woeking on something great.

[@Raja995mh33]

Saying that symmetrical bezels would've added another $100 to the already pricy $729 is quite a take when even the iPad 10 for half that has exactly those symmetrical bezels.

[@jheiceballos9027]

Hoping for your Cat's fast recovery Michael!

[@p.herron]

Really looking forward to getting your take on the Light Phone 3

[@afg99061]

More and more I wish I had my blackberry classic modified to allow me to use modern apps like google pay, and other banking apps. I thought my galaxy flip 5 would help me, but even that i find myself flipping it open more. I need something compact like the blackberry and good for business.

[@pasoliman]

I need that TCL screen in my laptop!

[@TheAvisco]

can't wait for the review on the new razr+ 2024

[@AlejandroDeLaRosa05]

Michael got caught in 4K while browsing Instagram on his Fold😭😭😭

[@klaxxon__]

Regardless of this particular product, if the display technology can combine some of the upsides of eink with the speed and responsiveness of LCD, I would be all over it sooner rather than later.

[@akhilaryappatt]

above all, I love the white bezels

[@danielhughes733]

Calling the screen "Live-Paper" seems a bit misleading when its just a RLCD with a backlight.

[@drkrpr155]

That’s a lot of words to say it was unremarkable

[@Cyba_IT]

I wonder why no one uses transreflective screens.

[@griffinfamily8853]

Love your videos, I hope your cat is doing better. Can you do living in the pixel ecosystem and the nothing one as well?

[@griffinfamily8853]

Also a tech bag

[@ThereMayBeLions]

I was excited to see this device, but the price tag immediately scared me off.

[@alex_ob1]

Fantastic video, really thoughtful.

[@ardas77]

Oh yeah, smol phone with a nice camera would be somethin!

[@lifehackertips]

I really don't know what they were thinking when they made these devices. How could they not see this would be a failure?

[@jeff119990]

can someone come out with a android tablet with lidar? id love to see something i can use as a 3d scanner and have other uses. i dont really want to get an ipad.

[@Vulioll]

Yeah, the guy is most possibly a truly gifted(?) charlatan(!).

[@ultraokletsgo]

Fighter of the Nightlight

[@nope7195]

Is Mobile Kitty ok??

[@dinckelman]

I never would have ever guessed that this thing costs over 150$

[@teh201d]

The screen technology is awesome. Not sure why they put it on a tablet.

[@nokiangage]

Please show us your keyboard case in our faces even 30 more times a minute

[@50Steaks68]

Me: oh wow what a cool kindle alternative *$729* Me: AHHHHHHHHHHHH

[@50Steaks68]

I think they put the decimal in the wrong spot.

[@Seminoso]

​@@50Steaks68XD

[@maheshy1]

You probably don't remember the notion ink Adam from 2010/2011 ces.

[@SauloAvelar]

It's been a while my friend.

[@linuxliaison]

Design Theory host looks like Mr grease lightning himself lol

[@xavierhill3966]

scroling and dragging is welll.... janky lol - that's wild

[@dominiqueelhage325]

Remarkable 2 on crack maybe -> Does it feel close to paper?

[@demonhogo]

I’m not a fan, but I’m glad people are pursuing things like this

[@sety409]

It's funny how most comments are always on Michael's content quality And barely about the tech on hand.

[@nightthemoon8481]

so it's a 100$ tablet with a regular dogcrap screen and ewaste mediatek chip but it has a permanent black and white filter and a matte coating

[@fellowninja]

I've been saying that bezelless designs are completely overrated for YEARS. You absolutely need a bezel for your grip.

[@Astromanaught]

Had me until the price. Been in the market for a non-kindle e-reader. Guess I'll keep looking

[@slomojo98]

Thanks.

[@Petrolhead11]

This is perfect product for me when it costs regular.

[@-ThePharaoh-]

The king is back

[@clothesontheground]

I, too, have been enjoying Dark Matter

[@ThatsPety]

I respect you for talking that much to the ceo and still saying the brutally honest conclusion you said

[@AtulVinayakS]

The writing on Mr Mobile's videos are top notch

[@AdamJRichardson]

Mr Mobile on tech and Tom Voelk on cars are the best writers and editors (of text and video) on KZbin. So tight and economical.

[@ak_hoops]

facts

[@TylerWoodfin]

Hoping for the best for your cat!

[@MaiElizabeth]

Me too ❤❤❤

[@Danominator]

This is the most unremarkable year for technology so far, and that's AFTER the AI buzzword took over...what a shame.

[@davidconnor5874]

Right. If you just look at the content of this channel and MKBHD's, it's noticable that they've branched out their subject matter, the flow of new products is dry right now.

[@ingusmant]

I seen worse, and we're in a recession

[@Danominator]

I'm frankly glad that this year of dryness has allowed Michael to branch out. It's fun laughing at AI pins but I find his personal content more interesting.

[@sshah2545]

AI worth having doesn’t happen in a year. Look at Siri, it’s taken her like 12 years to grow a brain

[@Danominator]

Imagine using Siri as a competent example lmao, and it's gonna get even worse with that AI 😓

[@jacobpierce2548]

“The strain of existing in 2024” I felt that

[@lilrowbear]

I’m really happy to see matte screens and e-ink screens become more popular. I don’t think this Daylight v1 will be the device to get me to switch, but maybe a v2 once they iron out some of the issues.

[@hdtravel1]

They need to get the price way down !!!

[@_lisan_al_gaib]

this isn't e-ink, it's misleading, even now people are getting misled by this product

[@idle_sheep]

This isn't e-ink!! It's a reflective LCD screen (meaning it has no backlight but instead uses the light around you to illuminate the screen), the same kind of screen that was on the gameboy advance 20+ years ago. It's important to distinguish because e-ink has many advantages (amazing battery life and paper-like eye feel probably being the bigger ones) that this device does not have. This device is a compromise between e-ink and regular lcd displays, trying to achieve a similar look to e-ink while not having the downside of slow refresh rate.

[@Natsukashii1111]

Tcl nxtpaper is way ahead of this crap. Reflective color screen in a competent tablet, not a 100$ tablet sold for 7 times the price to tech bros.

[@TischTosh]

True, wish TCL was highlighted!

[@Cargo_Bay]

i hate how its frowned upon to have bezels on tablets and phones now, hah. They're great for having places for your hands or fingers to rest that doesn't touch the display.

[@insertnamehere6559]

There is actually some compelling evidence of fraud on Rabbit's part in Coffeezilla's deep dive into the company, unfortunately