Days of Revolt - The Corporate Coup d'etat with Ralph Nader

In this episode of Days of Revolt, host Chris Hedges speaks with author, consumer advocate, and former presidential candidate Ralph Nader. Together, they trace the advancement of corporate control in the U.S. political system. multimedia.telesurtv.net/v/day...

[@williamhuston1]

God bless Chris Hedges, Ralph Nader, and Telesur. This is the best thing I've seen in a long time. Brilliant! Thank you!!!

[@johnnybizaro1]

+William Huston This is part of the fight. We got another fight on the other side of Atlantic. It is a frontal assault laid out bare and brutal like this. Yes English with German subtitles video. _Missing Link to Yanis Varoufakis - KenFm - Interview von Dirk Pohlmann_ , 3rd November 2015.

[@ReVoltAgefilms]

Nader cleans the lens of American democracy.

[@johnnybizaro1]

+ReVoltAgefilms Thanks Mr Nader

[@plunderpunk2]

+ReVoltAgefilms The best vote I ever cast was for Nader.

[@heyzues8363]

@@plunderpunk2, the last time an American vote ever counted.

[@rd264]

you get the "lense" clean by studying history...but ok, the "lense" is clean, now what?

[@ReVoltAgefilms]

@@rd264 more incremental change

[@Colzart]

Nader is a fucking Super Human

[@tyler29va]

+Colzart Easily one of the greatest Americans ever

[@johnnybizaro1]

+tyler29va Yes sir.

[@matthewjackson9615]

I agree. He did more for the ordinary citizens in this country than anyone else in modern times.He's the last of the greats and with the corporate takeover of politics no one will ever come along again to represent the interests of the masses. The corporations have bought off the political system and are too powerful to overcome. Whatever they want, they get. Period.

[@MePJtheDJ]

EXCELLENT!!! I voted for Nader. One can only dream of what this country would be like now if he had won.

[@justinbrantley4252]

Thank you, Chris and to Ralph for educating me.

[@AntonioGarmsci-cy5vt]

Mr. Nader is personally responsible for saving more lives than any other American.

[@MrWadsox]

Yeah he saved a whole bunch in Desert Storm didn't he?

[@theultimatereductionist7592]

+Green Genes Neither did you, you fuckhead. Love the way you blame Nader WHO WAS NOT PRESIDENT THEN, who was NOT IN POWER THEN, for the actions & choices of fucking Bush Sr.

[@happyfreeliferc]

Green Genes where do you get your info from ? Tarot card readers and psychic readers ? lol .now go sit in the corner and put on the dunce cap !!!

[@coreycox2345]

This seems correct, Antonio Garmsci.

[@kn9ioutom]

SEAT BELTS ! NEXT GUN CONTROL !

[@browntrout611]

Two great men. Any time you listen to Chris or Ralph you will become enlightened more than watching a lifetime of watching cable TV.

[@kinky_Z]

Jeez...I remember my Speech Arts teacher back in Whittier, CA, hometown of Nixon, in 1963, as a high school freshman, introducing the class to "Ralph Nader" that sexy young activist who wrote about "unsafe at any speed." Yeah! I was only 14. Ralph was 28 and on the cover of Time Magazine! He's still alive. I guess I am too still but after Kavanaugh's confirmation, I'm praying for an untimely demise. But, wow I have loved and admired Ralph Nader my WHOLE LIFE and he's still alive! HFS! God bless Ralph Nader! Now and ALWAYS!

[@coreycox2345]

I was eight. My cool uncle, the architect filled me in on "unsafe at any speed." Pivotal to my development.

[@tomgreg2008]

Two great men. Thanks for posting.

[@deanvall3784]

Two brilliant minds Nader and Hedges....

[@p.a.andrews7772]

Thank you for having Ralph Nader on, and Mr Chris Hedges, two of the greatest political scientists of our times and many other things.

[@omagosh5137]

"Greed is the destroyer of man." Alfred Lawson

[@kenbrownfield6584]

Americans never elect an honest, smart person for President. That's why Ralph didn't have a chance. He is a smart man though and would've been a good President.

[@Woodroffski]

+Ken Brownfield Don't blame Americans, blame the bastards that deliberately undermine the democratic process at every opportunity.

[@justgivemethetruth]

I think he did not stand a chance because he is an Arab, and he is for the US being an isolationist and withdrawing support for Israel. As great as I think Nader is, and I would vote for him under the right circumstance ... like against Donald Trump for example - he has no foreign policy platform and he shoots from the hip when asked about it. He is not serious about being President. He has been all about himself, and the proof to that is that everything he does is good for him only. I am not saying he has not done good things, but to great things he needs to partner with other people on the Left, and one thing the Left has never done has been to aggregate their brain power and work together. They are all lone wolves that talk a good talk, but do nothing.

[@salimsaab1964]

he is of Lebanese descent ; parents came from Lebanon over 70 years ago . He is against AIPAC , ADL and the like , so he would never make it ...

[@robertrichard6107]

As you should know by now, Americans don't elect the President, they have an Electoral College for final say.

[@jane.elliot5782]

Americans? We don't have votes that count anymore. Do you honestly think we all picked Biden over Bernie ? get real.. Sure they may finally count in the general , but by then it's too late because we've got two criminals running. EDIT: My bad. This is 3 years ago. Well, if you didn't know it then you've figured it out, by now

[@Brembelia]

We are fortunate to have Ralph Nader and his tireless efforts. If all people were like him, this country would shine like a star.

[@rik4369]

We had three chances to elect him and instead choose the two party " criminal klans". We deserve what we have in Washington , DC.

[@jblak9740]

This should be mandatory viewing in every high school government, economics, civics class. If they still exist as a high school class.

[@katthudson9131]

They do not.

[@katthudson9131]

Civics is no longer a thing in American high school, and the other classes are a joke compared to what they should be.

[@kinky_Z]

I will have to second Chris' final statement on Part 1 "We all would have been MUCH BETTER OFF HAD WE VOTED FOR YOU IN 2000!" It's a regret and a personal shame that will follow many of us to the end of our lives. Down on my knees and bowing with all humility sir, thank you Mr. Ralph Nader, the number 1 most important PATRIOT and ROLE MODEL of our generation. Thank You!!

[@geoffrey4253]

Sad to say I was still drinking the Kool-Aid. The Only vote I do not regret was Ross Perot. Everybody else yea I fucked that one up. Starting with Reagan. I was still in my Military Mind back then. I was Mad at Carter over the Hostage Crisis. If a Right wing idiot like me can wake up, Anybody can realize we have gone too far to the right and the Income inequality will be the end of us all. Just like 1930's Germany, 1917 Russia, Post WWII China. 1930's Italy with Oligarchy loving Mussolini. Now soon 21rst century United States.

[@kinky_Z]

RALPH NADER - THE IDEAL...THE PERFECT CITIZEN. Eternally revered. Thank you Ralph!

[@carolreid5405]

Heroic, brilliant human being. Impressed upon me deeply, in my youth, the brutal political truths and impressed upon me that we could as a political force change the system’s corruption and social injustice. The system owes a huge debt to you.

[@SteveBell1967]

2 great Americans.

[@chriscorona1317]

Wow, this was seriously brilliant. Going to need to rewatch a few times to let the info sink in. True revolutionaries.

[@truedonblue3949]

THANKS TO BOTH OF YOU.

[@KetoKassy]

I voted for you Ralph!!!! Way back when... My Mother had a subscription to Consumer Reports for years.

[@isasooner5]

God bless you! I was only 12 at the time!

[@gavins.7165]

God, this made me cry. Is there no end to the evil of this unfettered corporatism? Bless Ralph Nader for his tireless work. He is a living saint.

[@mambi74]

Thanks for posting & Thank You Ralph for all your work throughout your career.

[@tapolna]

Yes. Nader's work is incredible, if we really look at it. I don't think there has been any one individual that has done so much for the common American citizen than Nader. No president, no Senator or Representative has done as much. Can you think of anyone who has done as much as Nader?

[@the_malefactor]

Can't wait for part two.

[@johnnybizaro1]

+Joaquin Chavez The truth will set you free and it can't be more honest then this.

[@ctkategman123]

Ralph Nader has been an American hero for over 50 years. Christopher Hedges has become one of the smartest spokesman for Injustice righteousness. And 90% of Americans don't even know who he is. This is not an accident they don't want you to know who he is.

[@domingodeanda233]

An eye opener, thanks guys.

[@layinlow77]

Indeed, not everything should be for sale! We need millions of voices like Nader's. Great how he points out that it used to be that even Nixon had to answer to the voice of the people to some degree, whereas now it's just money that controls everything.

[@robertrichard6107]

Citizens United even happened!

[@MonaLisa-lu8zi]

2021 and people are for sale, courtesy of BB... BP... And of course the tools ⚙ > politicians. 💉

[@NyetTube]

Nader is a great man.

[@ignatiusmagnanimous]

He should of been President.

[@kinky_Z]

Yes. He should HAVE been (not of been) President!

[@noisepuppet]

Voted Nader whenever I could.

[@SuperNhodge]

And stein later.

[@MrWadsox]

Thanks for giving us Dubya in 2000, moron.

[@SuperNhodge]

Would have been the same difference gore or dubya trump or clinton same shit coming out of any of them.

[@kinky_Z]

My biggest regret is being so into my career and working and cleaning and preparing dinner and having no time to figure out what the hell was going on...that I did not vote for Ralph Nader. The biggest regret of my life and the biggest sin of my life. Please comrades forgive me. I didn't know what I was doing. I am so sorry!

[@GrandmaCathy]

Me too.

[@henrygarciga]

What a combination ! These 2 brilliant and courageous individuals should be key members in the temporary government America will, by necessity, be required to start-up from scratch. They will be part of the new leadership group that will integrate the critically important electoral reform laws based on Ralph Nadar's expert knowledge. Include Robert David Steele's great proposals to require all legislation to be posted on-line for amble public review before a vote or action is ever taken. Listening to these 2 inspires me to develop a list of other patriotic Americans that will reverse the criminally culpable acts against Americans through the office of the Presidency going back to 1963.

[@Empowerman]

+Fluteristic Though, I think it goes back much further...just, different chapters.

[@henrygarciga]

I only use the Kennedy murder and successful cover-up that, in my mind, allows 9-11 to even happen.

[@coreycox2345]

At first, a few would read it, and it might make all the difference, Fluteristic. Then many would read it, I think. We could get back to the Constitution.

[@GrandmaCathy]

Wow. I didn't know Ralph Nader was still alive. He would have been a ohenomenal President.

[@GrandmaCathy]

Phenomenal

[@RyanFeatherston]

Ralph is actually alive and well.

[@bigwallmike]

Outstanding! Thanks for posting!

[@gustacular]

Nader/ Hedges 2020

[@definitelynotcodybarrett3725]

Shake it up a bit

[@maryellenmarucci7898]

2022!

[@not2tees]

24,000 plus views - not a bad start. Such excellent quality, though it makes you aware of the swamp of utter ignorance where most people are stuck. Heroes are not only the American Sniper kind . . . a couple of Reality Heroes here.

[@andreacvecic]

Thank you!

[@richardkajander1126]

What makes this discussion interesting is listening to a.) a consummate activist who b.) has tread the inside aisles of American politics. We aren't listening to theories or speculation, we're listening to the real.

[@davidmayhew4818]

I was told by various dems when I voted for Nader that my vote got W elected. I know I chose the right guy, but doing the right thing turned out to be the wrong thing. I'm still glad I voted for Nader.

[@mehjones8008]

Your harassers are full of sh*t.

[@williampremo9807]

Al gore lost the election for al gore. He lost his home state by 8 points to bush. Lost nh to bush when Clinton won twice. That would've put him over the top. Wasted time droning on about putting social security in a "lockbox" and fretting about wearing earth tones to seem less robotic. This one's on al.

[@Larkinchance]

A three party race doesn't scare the two parties as much as a four party that threatens to form a coalition. A four party race would break the 2 party monopoly

[@jacquesgravelle6822]

Could you imagine these two men in the White House., Now that would be a blessing !!!

[@augurcybernaut4785]

Excellent

[@hugoflorens5855]

Excellent interview, thank you Professor Ralph Nader and Chris Hedges!

[@BillyStewartGuitar]

I believe Nader means 1996 not 1986 as the signing dates he spoke of. Clinton was not PTUS until 1992.

[@jamienix5399]

That’s exactly what I thought too.

[@domingodeanda233]

Exactly

[@helenamoniqueclarke8135]

Somewhere, in a parallel universe, Nader/LaDuke won in 2000 and the world is a much better place now.

[@Ghostmanriding]

Ralph definitely should have been President. Im feeling like I live in a parallel Universe, in that i have completely dropped out from all things political ,and make up my own universe as i go along :)

[@michaelfoley3777]

Two Giants of freedom & truth! May Almighty God bless these two wonderful human beings! Most Sincerely Michael Foley 🤔

[@burden9809]

Ok people that is enough praise and agreement. It’s time to take this to the streets. Go every Saturday morning to your capital or courthouse steps for two hours, bring your friends and family to talk about these things. RANKED CHOICE VOTING NOW! IT IS OUR ONLY OF BREAKING THE TWO PARTY MONOPOLY!

[@WindowsXP_logon_sound_25yrsago]

That, and investing in third parties while pushing more Progessives to rise up at ever level.

[@rogerthompson5250]

Liked and shared. Maybe a few will get it, but at this time in America's history I am not over enthusiastic. Two of the greatest minds in America today.

[@ttystikkrocks1042]

Over 3 years later this is still extremely relevant background that illuminates how America found itself in the current situation. Mussolini style corporatist fascism has such humble beginnings... It's been a half century since the early 1970s an the beginning of the rise of post war corporate influence in politics. Enough is enough.

[@oranges9893]

Ralph Nader: not all heroes wear capes

[@kjones6941]

i'm british and i can't understand why this man is not your precedent !!!!!!!

[@Ghostmanriding]

Ralph is far too intelligent to be President.

[@rik4369]

Our President's are chosen only if they're CONTROLLABLE. President Kennedy is the perfect example to any president that tries to change the " oligarchs" path for our enslavement.

[@smokeycat2011]

My late dad knew- he said Nader was the only one who gave a damn. I wish I would've listened to him (when he was running for president).

[@carrieraupp757]

Voting for Nader was voting for Americans. Love him. His sister is really cool, too.

[@IaMCdN1]

Excellent, just excellent. The most concise description of why the democratic western world is where it is.

[@domingodeanda233]

Again on May 05-2021, Both of are admired worldwide

[@BirdArvid]

Two honest, empathetic, good men trying to fight the corner of American citizen's against corporate power. I really wish more Americans understood that these men (and others) are fighting for them, against the powers that be who couldn't care less about their well-being..

[@mkaiser29]

Are you kidding me!> Who in the hell let this happen!!!!!!!!!?? This is extremely important information, why am I just learning this now!?

[@transformersdecepticondude8597]

Dear TeleSUR English, Mr. Chris Hedges Mr. Ralph Nader, If the people are going to get rode out of town by corporate, this is not democratically by the book. We should have an equal playing field without legalities or give this country back to the natives as we all leave. For every detail in daily rights of each we have to have a protocol for equality if we want to remain a democracy. If we do not have that implied or written, we may one day no longer have a country or constitution. Becareful. Thank you. Sincerely, Don Suiters

[@blackphillip564]

Chris Hedges loves govt power, just not US govt power. He went from TeleSUR straight to RT.

[@PaulHosse]

A perfect argument as to why Labor needs its own political party. The U.S. is the only industrial nation without a Labor party.

[@cristinat5622]

Ralph Nadar for Senate or Congress!!!!!

[@Lawman2]

Right on!

[@vladimir0700]

Revolting days.

[@xanbex8324]

BIG HERO......BIG !!!!

[@tenholindberg9862]

I hope chris could sometime in future,come to speak in finland, about society

[@StratusBlue]

"The foundations stopped funding citizen groups because they were afraid the IRS would go after them, which was NOT an illusion." Ralph Nader

[@bjarnesegaard5701]

Why didn't Nader become president

[@aoknponte]

+Bjarne Søegaard > If you free and honest filled with good will towards all you are not eligible.

[@bjarnesegaard5701]

aoknponte good point 😊

[@annberry8149]

+Bjarne Søegaard He was kept off television. He was belittled and minimized by corporations that bought television time. He was hated by corporations. That's why. He was for We the People, that's why.

[@synergynation332]

+Bjarne Søegaard Because most Americans love money more than morality, domination more than democracy and power more than principle. It's all US. WE are the problem. WE are the solution.

[@annberry8149]

We're science illiterate... We're uninformed and misinformed by the corporations that own the media... I think your right though.... people seemingly are willing to sacrifice their health .. their ethics and morality and their country... However, they are making uninformed choices. The Bush/0sama war on truth has had devastating effects. I think if Americans were informed about what our government is doing... and I think if the corrupt politicians knew the consequences of their choices they might value their health and the future the USA and the people living here...more than pocket change and even their jobs.

[@deus_abscondis]

Where is the second part?

[@dronacharya67]

It's kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5qyq5SClrdmjrM. Annoyingly, it's not titled as Part II, you have to do some creative searching to find it.

[@injusticeanywherethreatens4810]

Shining beacons of hope as the world finally comes to an end. I commend both your efforts but it does feel like we are on an irreversible path to violent cataclysmic rebellion or fascism.

[@siddbastard]

What a legend.

[@mdarrenu]

that is why it is best to work at the state level.

[@kinky_Z]

Chris - Please tell us. Shall I vote for Bernie in the Primary (CA) and then switch to Stein or what or don't you care? I refuse to not vote so what should I do? Many of us are actually considering voting for Trump should Hillary win the nomination. What is your opinion? Thanks.

[@coreycox2345]

I hope you went with your gut, Kinky. I have taken steps to become an American citizen so that I can vote for Bernie in 2020, should I have the opportunity.

[@mshakespearek]

I Remeber about the Carter situation

[@maryellenmarucci7898]

2022?

[@saltrue1555]

Very honorable man would been very good Presidente. Very good

[@geoffreynhill2833]

Ralph Nader's "ideology"? Just fair play! 👍

[@geoffreynhill2833]

And he really knows his subject...

[@jamesneace5559]

3:52 Nader has his timeline a little skewed here, Coelho wasn't elected to the House of Representatives until 1978, and was not named chairman of the DCCC until 1980.

[@zmscott2507]

Mixed feelings about Nader. I'm a fan of much of what he did, there are some things he did however that cost many very dearly. I would love to have him answer a set of questions that no one will EVER ask him. C'est la vie I suppose. He, we clearly lost and have yet to even experiance the acceptance of that sentimate among the public. How do you stand up to a problem that the public has completely rejected because they have been brainwashed into thinking they are responsible for it so acknowledging it is admitting personal failure. This is the power of manufacturing consent thru a corrupt and biased media. When the nations hardships are depicted thru the media as a falsehood because of the premise that Americans are way to good and hard working of a people for these problems to be half as bad as "people say". It makes it so that if people admit these problems are real they then must also then by default be admitting to being personally responsible for these problems. That they are a result of deep personal flaws or the absence of strength of character within people which is just outrageous. That's the America we now live in though. When the people have been convinced anything that government can do to make their lives easier is evil socialism instead of simply the representation this country was originally formed over for not getting with their taxation back in England. Anyone else recall that old saying no taxation without representation? Yea that's the things you get in exchange for your outrageously high taxes. In case anyone out there is confused the answer is no foreign intervention and financial support, big banking and wall street bailouts, and outrageous no strings bailouts saving corporations whose executives overpaid themselves until their companies went bankrupt is not representation it's theft. And no anything the government does to make the lives of it's citizens better is not evil socialism. There needs to be a public campaign teaching Americans what socialism actually is!

[@gerzxr838]

👍🏻

[@joanfrisinabowles1369]

Excellent timeline of events back to Nixon.

[@tarnopol]

Nader means 1996 for all that Clinton stuff, not 1986. Hedges should have pointed that out (I'm watching now, maybe he does later?).

[@leealexander3507]

More blues please.

[@musicloverkathy]

Truth has no expiry date.

[@Labor_Jones]

some things are too important for 1 person, or a few to make the decisions for everything.... if the people are sold out - so are the principles of DEMOCRACY. m.

[@anafernandes225]

Already during the 70s 😶

[@Stadtpark90]

22:59

[@SecondComingTwice]

Democracy? Really gentlemen? Mob Rule is your aspiration? How about Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness instead?

[@williampremo3096]

Not very many people in this country know the history these guys are talking about.

[@escapefelicity2913]

Remember what else happened in 71?

[@carmeniglesias1714]

We watch the Whales to this day!

[@niccoarcadia4179]

Why is it we're always looking back at greatness? We missed our chance! Nader, or anybody like him wouldn't stand a chance today because of progressive ideologies that conflict with adult and senior Generation X and tail end Baby Boomers. Most baby boomers have settled down into their lives, good or bad and Generation X is up to bat. Nader is old news. To them he got "funny"...' That certain follow-thru seriousness he once had is gone. He doesn't carry himself like he used to and all he seems to talk about are the past triumphs and fantasy "what if" scenarios.

[@llh3025]

Follow The Sun In addition to the progressive ideology problem, let me throw in crony capitalism, the military industrial complex, corporate welfare, the surveillance state, offshore tax havens, evisceration of unions and President game show host.

[@carlwessels2671]

He's in his mid 80 s. Most people who live that long don't carry themselves as well as they used to,or speak as well.

[@robertrichard6107]

Nixon started wage and price controls by spring 1972 Ralph. And did his one trick pony with the Petro Dollar.

[@ronnyron007]

Nadar is incorrect. It's not a left -right alliance. It's a working class alliance.

[@the81kid]

+Ronny Ron Left and right are relative terms, they're basically invented terms. There are a lot more people with common values than we think.

[@Brock1925]

Maybe the Squad should listen to this guy instead of Biden.

[@chuck1prillaman]

2 points: Nixon, not Ford, enacted wage and price freezes (Phase 1, Phase 2, Phase 3). Secondly, Ralph Nader made it possible for Bush (Cheney, actually) to be elected/appointed president. Nice work.

[@criticalthinking5077]

+chuck1prillaman _Ralph Nader made it possible for Bush (Cheney, actually) to be elected/appointed president_ I've heard a number of people state this and it's quite ludicrous given the complexity of the electoral process. See the interview of Nader by Abby Martin on Empire where he talks about this.

[@topkhani]

+Critical Thinking Gore was a supine spineless looser who conceded the election to Bush even before the count was finished. He deserved to loose - looser. Bernie is doing the same kissing Hillary's behind all the time. This is all THEATER for the sheeple..

[@criticalthinking5077]

topkhani I agree. Bernie appears to be more honest for the last 30 years than most politicians but let's face the reality that these politicians are window-dressing. The real power resides in people the masses never see. Time to pull back the curtains.

[@topkhani]

And that "curtain" can not be pulled because of Republicans.. and "more honest" Bernie will do nothing - that is just another Obama term...

[@chuck1prillaman]

+Critical Thinking I was careful to say "possible". Before the election this was well known to be the case and Nader dismissed calls to ask supporters in Florida specifically to please vote Gore. President Bush....President Gore...what's the difference? Right? right? I'm kinda thinkin' a Gore administration would not have: (please fill in egregiously despicable and destructive Bush policies here). Nader ends the interview asserting that people should not vote strategically. Great idea. Until there is a perfect candidate who reflects your own views 100%, just abstain or perhaps write your own name in. I vote strategically when it matters. I'm funding, volunteering and voting for Bernie. I hope we can at least agree that Hillary would be a disaster and any of the Republicans would further decimate the Constitution, rights, economy and what little democracy we have left. Your favorites list is interesting and I'll be watching some of the videos. You might appreciate Gore Vidal, Noam Chomsky and Christopher Hitchens writings and videos if not already familiar.

[@daneiladams]

Red nose means alcohol, I wonder

[@tapolna]

Nader is 82 years old and a vegetarian. I doubt he drinks much alcohol.

[@bettinazwerdling9158]

Had a stroke and has some health problems. He is not an alcoholic.

[@jamienix5399]

I also see a left/right alliance happening soon. We are all screwed, & it is only a matter of time as things continue to get incrementally worse, as they have been for decades. I look back on pictures of myself & my brother in the 80’s & I get a hard twinge of nostalgia, because it was back when we had the greatest middle class in world history. Can you imagine? Now, the middle class can’t afford a $400 emergency. Think of it. The most amazing middle class ever. Now it lay in ruins, & people are too overworked or sick to care.

[@khainruagneebyaaj1148]

funny shit. lol

[@mickeyrat3369]

Nader's been hitting the bottle, look at that nose. He's got the Gin blossom.

[@nanina112]

+mickey rat (maqnchs) so what----apparently if he does imbibe it has not affected him at all. is there a point to your comment? Haters are going to hate....................

[@bobcrestwood740]

+mickey rat (maqnchs) "Nader's been hitting the bottle, look at that nose." No, he's 81 years old, that's why he looks like that. He's been around so long, he first became famous in 1965 with his book "Unsafe at Any Speed." That was 50 years ago, and he was 31 at the time! Let's see what you look like when you're 81.

[@makesmefeellikeatalltree8250]

OK. that's it. not gonna vote anymore. pointless