Daystate Redwolf vs Air Arms s200 - Which rifle is more accurate?

[@ArtieGlock]

Thank you for posting this. Every rifle has its pellet preference thanks to the barrel manufacturing process used by each company. Even barrels that come off the assembly line from the same company have slight variations thanks to burrs or tool marks on the rifling.

[@southwestshooters]

Yes. Excellent points. Thank you for contributing.....there are many variables, some of these are too hard to account for. Take care and happy shooting.

[@BarryCampbell6822]

Outstanding comparison test, and excellent shooting, enjoying all your vids, subbed.

[@southwestshooters]

Thank you Baz. That's very kind of you! Safe and happy shooting.

[@lesleyhoworth9598]

Pellets my ultra was all over the place with the jsb pellet's recommended when I bought the gun tried 4.53 still shit tried 4.50 even worse went back to the good old h+n ftt 4.52 I use to use in all 177 guns I had many moons ago. What an incredible transformation. Well done your channel is brill

[@southwestshooters]

Several people have been mentioning these H and N pellets recently, so I'm going to put an order in for a few tins and see what is going on! Thank you for the support, it's always lovely when regular channel comments pop up. Safe and happy shooting!

[@phillipsharpe6459]

Not the s200 falt if you can't load i properly, mine is just as accurate as any other rifle out there , and for a fraction of the price, mine is brilliant,

[@southwestshooters]

Glad to hear you like the gun so much! It's not for me....

[@chopperhehehe]

@@southwestshooters Philip Am with you with my s200 my s410 carbine in fact all my amAir Arms guns I can hit within 5p at 35m Not saying daystate gun is bad gun but technology is years ahead on the s200 So I second your comment Philip 👍👍👍😜🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🦕🙂🤞✌

[@southwestshooters]

@@chopperhehehe you should be able to do that with any gun. It's really just down to personal preference. I'm just not a fan of the S200.

[@mikecreathorn2881]

If you are not , and were not ever a fan what was the point of this comparison at all ? Stick to using very expensive guns that make shooting easier for guys like you. And no, I don't have a doctorate, just experience of shooting air rifles since 1960. I could have probably shot groups as good as yours at 14 years old with my BSA Airsporter

[@sylvainster30]

I have a CZ 200s colour coming my way! Can’t wait to try it out, if it groups like yours I will be very happy! ✌🏼😎👍🏼

[@southwestshooters]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@philipbooth9755]

The S200 looks to have been wind affected more as the spread is side to side on both groups, little to choose really. But how many different pellets did you try in each gun? Neither will shoot the same as well.

[@southwestshooters]

Philip, you are absolutely correct. This was still quite an early video and I understand your insight. If I were to do it again, I would do things a little differently.... Onwards and upwards.

[@yoyomin]

Could very well be the trigger. Redwolf with an electronic hair trigger vs good old mechanical trigger on the s200 that require fair bit of work to get it tune in. I know that if I clamp the s200 I should be getting similar result as the daystate grouping.

[@RiccardoMastrogiuseppe]

4:34 costo in €?

[@danny007boy123]

imho there is no universal standard of pellet for different barrels. the s200 is uregulated was the most consistant air pressure "sweet spot " found ? thumbs up on the distance and i wish all reviews were at least 40 yards

[@alantippett7602]

That Daystate does group very well indeed.

[@southwestshooters]

Yes. Thank you..... Its all the gun :)

[@broken12367]

My Redwolf is a beast but does depend on pellets too. Ive found mine loves QYS Streamlind 8.48 gr

[@gmcgeester0966]

I own both the s200,, and a crown mk2,both sub12, and .177, and can say I absolutely can’t fault either of them,

[@evronaldo.9220]

Keep on going continue it I love it you are good shooter 👍

[@briansmith6862]

These types of comparisons are pretty pointless unless you take out all of the variables, at least shooting indoors to take away the wind. If you put two S200s side by side, or two of any of the same gun side by side you would get similarly disparate results. A more appropriate title might be, "Is THIS S200 more accurate than THIS Red Wolf?"

[@southwestshooters]

I disagree with you on this Brian. Firstly, I don't have access to a long indoor range, shooting over 20 meters indoors is pointless as any gun should be able to hit a pin head. Your point about two s200s, although true, is pointless as I'm not interested in that question. And changing the video title would not be appropriate either, it's essentially a given anyway, people can, and are encouraged, to make this inference themselves. This, regardless of variables, is meant to inform anyone about the two guns. The beauty is you can choose to look at it from any perspective you wish, and although I disagree with your opinion, I still respect it.

[@erweebuys]

I agree with Brian pointless test, too many variables, I have an S200, that consistently shoots groups much smaller than that.

[@southwestshooters]

@@erweebuys thank you for your message! Although I don't agree with you, as we are reducing the variables here, I do see where you are coming from. If you can group better with your s200 then fair play!

[@karrolsmulovic6596]

I have a 2002 S200 mk2 fitted with a regulator, groups are 20p size at 30yds. No sweet spot probs. Use JSB Exact 452.

[@Gunner-ll1zd]

Maybe the wrong pellet for the s200?

[@southwestshooters]

Yes, in retrospect, it possibly was.

[@jameswalkden7499]

What a see you next Tuesday.

[@B4nd1tCons]

I used an S200 for FT and HFT competitions for a few years and regularly out shot people using things such as S400/MPR FT, EV2, BSA R10 and many more better and more expensive rifles. There’s no problem loading and absolutely no issues with accuracy but as with all rifles, you must find the the right pellet to suit the barrel.

[@mikecreathorn2881]

I would suggest that your S200 is not particularly happy with the pellets you used. I have two S200s, a Mk2 and a Mk3. I use either QYS Streamlined 9.56gr or JSB Hades 10.34gr in both guns and can consistantly achieve tight groups better than yours at the same distance. No insult intended, I just wish to convey that the S200 is VERY picky on pellets, I tried many makes and weights before I found the best for my guns.

[@stevenpritchard3519]

Yo, has your Redwolf been re-mapped ?

[@lucasnel4240]

They are both good , they use exactly the same barrels from the same manufacturers. All depending on the gun block that controls the air relieves from the block and how its controlled.

[@southwestshooters]

Lucas, where did you get this information from? I think you are misinformed they are not exactly the same. Why are you saying things that aren't factually correct?

[@stuartcrane9409]

5.53 pellet size is normally the most accurate in S200….what were you using?

[@southwestshooters]

Can't remember!

[@9P38lightning]

Might be that the S200 doesn’t perform with that pellet. The barrel may need cleaning…

[@ootahbeefz5501]

🔥 vid again. I hate splatter targets🤟🏾👊🏾

[@southwestshooters]

Thank you Sir. I like how they are so easy to see for a video... But they give a false impression of what you are actually shooting. When they are removed the groups look much tighter.

[@neilrose8618]

Did you try finding the best pellet for the aa200 as you tried same pellets in both guns I have aa200 in both calibers and whienrach hw 100 in both calibers plus other's break and under levers, they all have there preferences in pellets I have tins for each gun not arguing as hw100 pellets follow each other into same holes aa200 not as good a group not by much but cheap easy to get for most folk hw100 great was thinking about getting a daystate but other half probably would bury my under the patio as every new gun gets my ears a bending lol 😉

[@wayneellis5839]

its like putting a ferrari against a fiesta. ?

[@southwestshooters]

Only if the fiesta is the ST edition. 😉

[@chopperhehehe]

@@southwestshooters still no comparison sorry

[@southwestshooters]

@@chopperhehehe no. I do actually agree. The red wolf is a superior gun. In every respect.

[@falkirk8413]

@@southwestshooters may I suggest you try jsb rs DIABOLO and get the s200 regulated like the daystate is because I can constantly and constantly put 10 shot groups under a 5p coin at 40 yards on the indoor range with my .22 mk3 s200 in my eyes you ain't giving the s200 a fair shake

[@kobrien1352]

Okay the Redwolf did better, but not by much. Personally, even if l had the money, I’d go for the little 200 and use the extra cash to MOT, service, rode tax and insure my Citroen C1, and still have enough cash left to maybe buy a second 200! No contest in my book. Plus I’ve seen quite a few Reds go back for repair at my club!

[@chrishickmott7806]

The s200 is a lighter gun it will shoot as good as any pcp out there try a heavier moderator that will help keep your balance

[@kylekingy5195]

I don’t think the choice of pellets was a fair test as that particular S200 doesn’t seem to like those pellets. I shoot AA diabolo field 8.4gr out of my S200 and regularly get 10mm groups at 25m. Given the right pellet you would see much different results from the S200

[@SimplyRed66]

I think this clip was made to down grade the CZ/ AA S200, l have one amongst others in .22cal regulated and tuned and it does 20mm groups at 25m ...Easy🎯👌 sweet little carbine 💪👊😁

[@neprevazutul]

DUDE, REMOOOVE THE SILENCEEEEEEER

[@Steve-Cross]

Different guns prefer different pellets. Just saying. My Wolverine hates JSB Exact, but loves QYS and Rangemaster Sovereigns. My mate has an S 400. It is just as accurate as my Wolverine, with the right pellets.

[@RossNoonan]

Comparing a £2k gun vs a £400 one using the pellets for the Daystate. Not really a fair test

[@lesjones7617]

Makes me sick! put it in a vice and co-plan?

[@southwestshooters]

Not really sure what your trying to get at here Les.

[@lornawoodings2605]

Think he's saying that someone can't control trigger on s200, at that range mine will put heavies through the same hole!

[@fanis4809]

Ok comparison of a two groups of two guns with a difference of 1000 euros in price then the s 200 is away better in the end .now if u try the s 200 with the transfer port screw full open in the legal limit of 12 fpe with air arms heavies or jsb heavies 10,3 u will be amazed what this unregulated gun can do between 185 bars to 110 bars .30 shots in one hole no biger than 6 mm in 25 meters .So unregulated guns must always be fired in their sweet spots pressure areas when they are going to be evaluated. The only combarable gun with the s 200 with the same characteristics is in my opinion the good old bsa ultra and for the daystate the bsa r 10 mk 2 with jsb 10,2 or air arms 10,2 and then try with other pellets.Also s200 can group if you put rocks in the champer but as i know daystates are very difficult to find the best pellet .keep going the good work with the videos

[@southwestshooters]

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[@leecolclough2492]

Its about the shooter not rifles there nothing wrong with either of them bud I shoot like this with standard HW,S and those guns are springers though all pre charge there's no life in them dead shooting no recoil

[@southwestshooters]

It is personal preference though, isn't it? I've shot springers for literally 25 years before getting into pcp guns and I still can't believe how amazing pcp guns are. I have to be honest I don't enjoy using springers. But that's just me. If you can get good accuracy from a springer then good work my man!

[@stevejohnson1797]

Fx better than both of them. Daystate have lost it for years now..

[@southwestshooters]

I must respectfully disagree with you. I had to return my FX because it didn't cycle the magazine, and it kept on jamming. This simply is not good enough. I also thought it was poorly made. If you think that, then it's totally cool. I, however, disagree with you. There has never been a single issue with any of my Daystate guns and they are superior to anything I have ever used, including FX guns. I'd actually argue that the guns that Air arms make are better than FX, albeit just a little more old school. Thank you for taking the time to comment on the video.

[@nickwebb6702]

Not exactly a like for like comparison.

[@danchaloner1357]

Good try but this isn't scientific man. Of course the nearly £1000 more Daystate will win. Are you daft? Put that P700 up against your wolverine. Or a really good marksman with gear you might not expect. As long as it's a hit, everything else is a footnote.

[@southwestshooters]

Although I mentioned the term 'variable' in the video, at no point do I claim this is scientific. Where did you get your doctoral qualification from?

[@mikesy9092]

Each rifle has its own pellet preference. Every airgunner should know that. Pointless test that proves nothing.

[@kevinmarshall8590]

Study you are clueless