DayZ's Infected Are More Broken Then Ever!!

Zeds be trippin these days.
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[@Marks12]

I don't mind the zeds being a challenge but they just to be balanced more. UPDATE The devs have said they are reviewing the changes to infected so hopefully they will do some tweaks to make them better!

[@jamesmathis5462]

I usually always like and agree with your videos but this one you dropped the ball on, you mentioned that because so many players where complaining on Reddit something must be wrong , nope lol that's just because so many have had the game on easy mode for so long they have become lazy, this is a survival game not just a run around and shoot each other game.. I think it's a nice breath of fresh air. I hope they keep them this way so they are actually a danger..

[@AhPook]

@@jamesmathis5462 As someone who plays basically exclusively on hardcore servers, you're talking out of your ass chief. There is something pretty objectively wrong with the zombies atm, it's like they're psychic at times. There's a line between difficulty, and being mobbed by something with zero warning and zero way of avoidance. As said in the video, the zombies seem to even ignore stealth mechanics. If you can't crouch walk/run, crawl, or even stealth kill them; that's a problem. They're literally ignoring in game mechanics.

[@ovialop1]

@AhPook @jamesmathis5462 i think james is right. if you crouchWALK you‘re absolutely able to stealth kill them. for a long time Z‘ds were no thread to the players. how many vid‘s we saw people just ignoring the Z‘ds when in a gunfight? why should Z‘ds not be able to hear you walking trough a building, when we players obviously hear other players crowling around or eating i a building next to us? how else you want to make Z‘ds a challenge, if not by being easier alerted by players and the scream of other Z‘ds? the Z‘ds are just boring if it‘s easy to manage that only one attacks you at time when they see or hear you..

[@AhPook]

@@ovialop1 Right now, as of the latest patch, you can crouch walk or even be prone behind a zombie and just alert them regardless of the sound you make. That's the problem. They. Are. Bugged. This isn't the normal behaviour, I have thousands of hours in this game, I know how the stealth mechanics work; and I am sure Marks does too. You're either deliberately being obtuse, did not watch the video, or aren't comprehending the issue. Did you not see the segment where Marks was prone, on a rooftop, and aggro'd a horde currently aggro'd to another player; at complete random? The problem is not the "difficulty" of the zombies. The problem is the zombie detection is bugged as of the 1.25 update, and there is documentation of it all across the internet. There is a difference between difficulty, and something being unreasonably difficult because the game is not working as it's intended. It's not a matter of them just being able to hear you in buildings (which btw they have always been able to do, if you stomped around in buildings they would go in to search mode, something you'd know if you played the game regularly), it isn't just a matter of them having a higher alert radius. This is a matter of those things being unreasonable, given they are hearing players at extreme distances other players could not dream of. Then there's the matter of the consistency; because it is not consistent. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. Sometimes they alert an entire horde, sometimes it's just one. Sometimes you alert zombies with zero LOS of any kind, through several obstacles that again; players would not be able to do without some kind of hacks or admin tools.

[@kamoperations]

@@jamesmathis5462 agreed

[@UnboundClown]

It’s the ambient music. Zeds aren’t used to it and it’s driving them nuts 🧟‍♂️

[@denniscrane9753]

This comment should be pinned!

[@Lonely_Goat]

Hardly a scam, it cost £20 and I got my monies worth X 100. Only game I play now. Great game for the over 40s we love it. ​@@slavplaysgames

[@zeiku738]

@@slavplaysgamesnah just get good

[@HiddenWeeds98]

😮😂​@@zeiku738

[@rikg4086]

​@@zeiku738nah been playin since it was a mod. Bohemia Interactive needs to do better. Their engine runs like shit even on PC, and community servers are the most fun because the modding community is actually giving us the content we have asked Bohemia to add for years. Ambient music? In a game where audio is EVERYTHING. Its like they just dont know their own game sometimes.

[@retrogaming8647]

I noticed this almost straight away after the update. I was on the second floor of a PD and agro'd a zed that was outside almost across the street.

[@ruthlessasmr6662]

Literally the exact same complaint for me. One of the yellow ones?

[@hardhits1]

ive noticed the PD thing before this patch, any 2 floor building as soon as you start opening and closing doors they freak out huh huh huh lol

[@richardbarrow7449]

Noticed it right away, having z’s lock on from 4 buildings away when your indoors seems like a cheep difficulty spike

[@yeetus4868]

I was at a helicopter crash and a zombie locked on from to me from a farm that was like 300 feet away

[@brin57]

Yep, I noticed it straight away. Now my biggest concern is constantly trying to keep my clothes from getting ruined, and in turn my primary loot hunt is for sewing kits and duct tape. Food and other players is now secondary. Generally a pain in the Arse !!

[@thefrankfish]

you just described the best bit of the game now..i think its how a zombie apocalypse would be. im loving it

[@sirsancti5504]

@Frank - Hi5, mate! Real survivalism, less "mUh KiLLs")

[@EXDna]

@@thefrankfish Realism isnt all its cracked up to be, bubba. I want fun. Not waste my time.

[@aidandedecker4246]

Not fun for the person you kill

[@thefrankfish]

@@EXDna there's always unicorn skins, jet packs and bubble guns in fortnite for you then

[@Chewbarka]

I’m on Xbox and they’re ridiculous, I like fighting Z’s as well but when you can’t even sneak around them or avoid them at all it’s really annoying. They can hear and see you from waaaay to far away. There is no avoiding them at this point.

[@jonathanlupfer5262]

You can sneak around them but get too close, and they will see you. You have to be crouched or sometimes on your belly. Best advice is get some silencers for pistols and make the crossbow your main weapon until this gets fixed.

[@redshift912]

You can avoid them . I play on servers where they are even harder . Was a breeze when I recently went back to vanilla

[@dezman97]

Same experience.

[@Lammy2023]

Im on xbox too, but they aren't TOO bad. Little challenging, but it doesn't feel boring anymore fighting these guys

[@edithboozy1000]

​@@redshift912 Useless throw away comment

[@Lyfewick9530]

Also they dont seem to scream and run at you anymore. SOME OF THEM JUS RUN AT YOU ONCE THEY SEE YOU! and the running punch they do is almost always a hit because they now seem to do a crossover or sidestep when they get near you. Especially if you see them running on all fours.

[@Sean-sn9ld]

I hadn't played in a month and thought I was just rusty or something! I felt like theyve been hearing me sneaking inside a house! Good to know its not just me 😂

[@paulgeorge3208]

Hello Marks, Yes I agree with you. I got banged up in Berizino, entered a shed, went prone to lay low and heal a bit, but when i moved around prone 4 zeds agroed on me from afar and gave me away resulting in my death from a player.... Needs looked at or we will all see the coast more often.

[@Nick_ADV]

100% even in the rain crouch walking they still agro so easily

[@Weltshmerz]

This is most noticeable because in heavy rain you could easily sprint behind and they would not notice you

[@MikeSmith-mp7lf]

So glad to see this video! I got on yesterday for the first time in months and spawned on the coastline by Balota and had 2 zombies instantly agro to me. By the time I got in the house there was a dozen military zombies coming from the airfield across the road to join in. When they didn't de-agro after five minutes I just ran out and accepted the respawn. I checked IZurvive and I was almost 200 meters from the original zombies and not moving yet. I decided to switch to a community pvp server with no zombies after 3 hours of not being able to get away from the coast because of having to continuously loot for clothes and rags from the bleeds and ruined clothing. And forget about trying to get to a well after spawning in. I stopped counting at 25 zeds in Cherno downtown just on the main road "and yes, they agro'd on my crouch walking". I was at the corner of the furthest eastern building and they were near PD. Again I just let it happen since I was already red food and yellow drink. If they won't de-agro anyways there's no way I could loot for food which tells me they absolutely can see me through walls. It isn't even the sound, you can be prone on the top floor and they will come straight to your position. My best run I decided to stay on the beach and loot boats. That only worked because I spawned near skalisky. Its crazy how far the zeds are agroing from now.

[@AllThingsFilm1]

Not only are they broken, but their numbers seem to have tripled. I see one or two Zeds in front of almost every house. I've crouch walked inside buildings, and triggered Zeds. Several times, I've run into a house to avoid a triggered Zed. Waited for them to be de-agro'd and walk away. Instead, one Zed outside turns into 10 Zeds showing up while I wait. I've trigged Zeds that weren't even in my line of sight. I've been enjoying Livonia, but, the Zeds are ruining my experiences.

[@ProfessorP07]

i don't think the population is a bad thing, but they definitely need to reduce the detection. I think people should learn to start throwing objects when they want zeds to move, and if it's an object you wanna keep, you can always just go get it after you do whatever it is you need to do.

[@fajjimusmcwajjimus8827]

Thats just livonia for you there are so many zombies

[@redshift912]

It’s a zombie apocalypse. I feel like a lot of you just want to play pub g

[@braidentaylor7367]

Exactly, I would just spawn in after restart and there would be 5 infected lingering around town, nobody else was there with me either

[@MaxDeckard]

I've seen instances of 6+ zeds popping in on screen at once.

[@OfficialDJBrG]

They're faster and stronger also. The wolves too. They are being sneaky now by not howling and run in packs up to 8 or 10. This was on official when I ran into a Wolfpack of 8 with no sound that they where there.

[@Marklennon]

The ones walking through doors have caused several heart palpitations

[@TM450FI]

Yeah for real i was in a military base garage and they started getting in from every Door and killed me ...

[@nikitasavtchenko4418]

I kinda like that they’re hyper aware. It makes them much more of a threat which they should be. The way I’d change it so that it’s a bit more fair would be to keep their eyesight good, but dumb their hearing down to a more reasonable level. That way, you can sneak around them, but you have to pay attention to where they’re looking. Having to go loud and use your guns against the zombies should be a part of the game.

[@JakeJakerson]

Super helpful video for the community. One of my friends died to infected and sort of rage quit the other day. I just sent him this video so maybe he will play again after understanding that it may not have been a "skill issue". It's better to hit these issues head on to let the devs know sooner rather than later because we actually care. The AI definitely need some love after all of these years - maybe some model updates, slight animation changes, or new creepy infected sounds!

[@johnathantaylor8052]

I completely understand where people are coming from. I have experienced all these issues with zeds and more. I personally love how the aggro from two house over in a house crouch walking. Then they proceed to phase through the door not one but two or three. They even aggro from 100 meters out which I do not understand how that is possible. I also love this new bug that I pull out my gun it is in my hand but 10 seconds later I go to shoot and I have nothing in my hands. That is my favorite bug out now, especially when you engage in PvP just great.

[@bruhmem7123]

Another problem ive noticed is that if you try and evade them by hiding in a house, they just stay there and wait

[@ianbattles7290]

You spawn in and instantly have to fight off a dozen infected.

[@Ebolacrash]

same here for me on xbox , logged in and took two steps had over a dozen zombies surround the building

[@drwells]

Yup I noticed the zeds being hyper sensitive first thing. I was 3 floors up in an apartment and they were alerting to me moving around. It also seems like they are more powerful. Even though I'm blocking they are cutting me almost every time, even with worn state cloths.

[@thefloridian8135]

The most noticable change is zeds will get alerted if you open a door. I've sneaked around houses too but they don't get alerted as much. It's the doors for me. They hear that like a pin drop from a mile away

[@WolfZ-ow9tp]

The zombie aggro was updated on 1.24 which was the increase in the distance alert. They may be even worse now on 1.25, but the problem started an update earlier. As always the devs try and fix stuff that isn't broke and leave all the stuff that is!

[@Alex-se7qe]

It throws you a false sence of security because you automatically think theres another player nearby that's causing the zombies to agro

[@Jonayofsweden]

I like the zombies being a challenge. I remember there was a bug one time where the zombies would either kill you or break your leg with like one hit, and it was awesome. I don't like the fact they seam to be able to aggro me through houses though. And they have hearing of doom now at the moment, can't sneak past anything.

[@samvincent7325]

I've had 4 different occasions recently where I've been hiding inside a locked room and a zombie has just warped through the door or teleported into the middle of the room

[@Hipporider]

I've noticed this hyper awareness of the zeds in a highly modded server and just assumed it was the particular zed mod. Good video 👍🇦🇺

[@indiana_bones5583]

Was shooting at a player from across an airfield being attacked by three zeds. After my first shot, the zeds immediately stopped attacking the player and made a b-line for me and ran straight up to me from across the airfield even though I was hiding in a bush. This game is borderline unplayable now.

[@kamoperations]

skill issue I love this update it makes it feel more like a zombie game

[@isaaccalatayudcerdan4348]

​@@kamoperationsclaro, es normal que los zombis tracen una perfecta línea a 200 metros hacia ti cuando estás camuflado. Es normal que con su radar interno prefieran ir hacia un disparo de 200 metros, a que vayan hacia la pieza de carne que tienen delante. Es una mala IA y malas mecánicas. No se debe de acusar al jugador, si no las malas implementaciones del juego. Si estando a 200 metros disparas a un jugador que le están atacando los zombis, los zombis van hacia ti y te impiden que puedas seguir disparando. Ya en que situaciones vas a poder pillar desprevenido a alguien?, bebiendo en una fuente de agua? XD. Que or cierto aún que tengas silenciador si das una bala al suelo ya saben tu ubicación exacta y van a por ti. Es ridículo!!. Hace años estaba tremendo los zombis. Podías asaltarles por la espalda y alcanzarlos, e ir esquivando en sigilo. Ahora han metido supuestamente más "mecánicas" pero lo único que han hecho es estropearlo más. Relojes que no valen para nada, un instakill por la espalda que ya no sirve por qué te detectan sorprendentemente lejos y un largo etc.... Aún que hagas las cosas bien te frustras. Ahora las "habilidades" es saber cómo torear a una mala IA. Y aún encima se culpa al jugador. No estoy encontrá de dayz es un nuegazo y siempre lo será. Pero el vainilla de hace 3 años es infinitamente superior que ahora. Las me canias que habían de las han cargado y solamente quieren dificultar sin fundamentos la experiencia nómada. Antiguamente 1 hora en dayz loteabas, matabas, casabas y encontrabas herramientas y recursos. Ahora, solamente te has cambiado la ropa 3 veces por otras prendas también rotas. Y con suerte has encontrado un cuchillo una mochila y un puñado de balas que te dan para matar a otra persona y coger su puñado de malas medio rotas.

[@rikg4086]

@@kamoperations lmao how is it a skill issue? Zeds shouldnt prioritize a player further away than one they are actively attacking thats stupid af

[@thebeardfetish]

@@rikg4086 whoever is shooting should always take priority for Zeds, it balances PvP. If you can shoot at people and have them attacked by Zeds, you have an extreme advantage. You need to make your first shot count.

[@indiana_bones5583]

@@kamoperations what do you play on?

[@equitycabinets8848]

Nothing like burning through all your bandages before you find something to make rags. Also limping around and sitting around waiting for your health to go up is my favourite part of the new update. Seemed to get sick for no reason couple times too

[@charlesdaugherty9320]

I've had problems with swarms mostly. When one Zed attacks it usually brings two or more with it. Also noticed the other day a bear kept agroing on me while lying under a tree without moving waiting to ambush. It didn't attack but kept growling at me. And I was the only one near a place I was spying on.

[@driverjamescopeland]

This is the problem with the attraction mechanic. Zombies should not have ESP. They should not be able to track you when contact is broken... and you DEFINITELY shouldn't be triggering them without contact.

[@nestalker117]

I agree. Started playing about two weeks ago and the most annoying part is being chased through a forest after they somehow seen you behind two fences and aggro'd. Wasn't as bad before the update though. And new menu music sucks, old one was amazing

[@marknouws4409]

Ngl i like the fact that they are way more agressive now. It forces me to actually sneak through a village like its a stealth mission.

[@SimpIethree]

Sneaking doesn't work 😭😭

[@Deadeye-sj3qc]

Yesterday, I was in the middle of a field, nothing around but a cow I was trying to kill and all of a sudden, 4 military zeds just ran out and started hitting me

[@heshworksbetter2777]

Have also experienced this, it was near a convoy spawn point and it was like the zeds never despawned.

[@DrDurango15]

I thought it was just from going from console to PC. Like aggroing through walls when slow crouch walking? Something definitely happened with the last patch. Oh and they spawn in random fields too?

[@joshuapaull1866]

I've been watching streamers play for years and only started playing DayZ on Friday for the first time ever. I've been struggling with how brutal the infected are and I'm constantly getting smashed up. Glad I found this video and it actually makes sense because in everything I've watched prior to playing, the Z's don't take 7 - 10 punches to die and I'm blocking the attack effectively but still getting cut up and ruined clothes. I logged off in a house with locked doors that were locked with a lockpick and when I logged back in there was a Z right up in my grille beating the crap out of me... the doors were still locked too. Weird!

[@kilgore.]

I've felt like this since 1.24 came out, you alert a zed and somehow aggro it about 20 metres away behind a house, then while fighting it 2 others wander over and aggro and before you know it you've killed the entire village. This 1.25 update has made it even worse by seemingly adding hyper sensitive hearing to them...

[@Highlyskeptical]

Yes, I noticed it too, but in some ways I like the zed upgrade from pain to threat.

[@milol9314]

I would be totally fine with zombies being able to climb on cars, negating the cheese, opening some doors if that means they'll fix the sounds through buildings. There's no sense that a zombie can hear you tiptoeing through a house or a bunker under heavy rain.

[@quelchx]

They do argo from further out and are more sensitive to sneaking around. Also laying down in building it feels that take bit longer to leave.

[@Josef_Stylin]

I thought my boots were too loud, and its actually my ambient music 😂

[@kekistonian]

Crouch walking second floor of downtown cherno PD yesterday, every time I opened a door or starting moving 3 outside would go “wah?” Its nuts. Also the constant one hit cuts are getting super old.

[@wilberdp]

They also aggro like crazy in the rain too which is super weird. On the flipside they still mostly ignore thrown objects for some reason. Like they’ll growl, walk over to the object, then walk away.

[@Logan44032]

On Xbox after the update I logged back in on Livonia and was outside a military, I crouch walked in and immediately had all 30 zombies in the base rush me. I ran into a barracks, closed the door, and laid down in a room, after a few mins I noticed they hadn't de aggroed. So I even ran into the showers closed that door and again laid down. Sat there for over 5 mins and if anything more zombies came running in from outside the base from hearing the other zombies I'm guessing. So needless to say I ended up going through all of my 9mm to loot one small military.

[@sentientfartcloudofdoomdor2085]

Stealth was already iffy for a long while, prior to this update. I found it very difficult and sometimes impossible to stealthily loot military bases back then, I actually haven't played in six months because of it. It used to not be like that. It seems to be worse now. It looks like I'll continue my hiatus if the zombies are this bonkers everywhere. Game is hard enough as it is, and to make it tedious makes it not fun at all.

[@redshift912]

I find the zeds way too easy and find servers where they make them even harder . Someone should make a mod to make easier or even no zeds for servers .

[@EXDna]

@@redshift912 Cool....... Zeds are still broken, and you couldn't handle 5 by any hand tool. So no, we don't need numbers unless im also able to fight 5 of them without ruining all of my hand weapons, jamming every damaged bullet and damaged gun I find... No. Not playing.

[@ianbryant9]

I have video of me entering a military camp and as soon as I passed a barrier every zed was on me. Since I became a VET at the game I never shoot the infected BUT I’ve been emptying entire clips now and even on occasion when server die off bring pox with me just to clear out the entire town BUT another bug I found out is they are respawning at an alarming rate. I walked away from a spot I killed a handful of them, loot maybe 25m away from the sport the entire city was full again

[@GunRunner47]

THANK GOD SOMEONE FINALLY SAYS IT. I’ve been scouring the web trying to see if I’m tripping but I see nobody else really talking about this like you are. Thank you!

[@rentherengend1306]

Zeds got the Project Zomboid update

[@seekingsolus3382]

You covered it in this one. I can't sneak attack anything now. Lol

[@MAarshall]

It feels like that once you have been spotted by one zed all other zeds in that location will become hyper sensitive to your presence.

[@DigbertDayZ]

Agreed, the infected are triggering from further away and seem to be not always loosing interest if you close a door on them, I have almost 4400hours in the game and they have changed with this update.

[@pimpster122]

The Z’s being glitch has been super annoying. I want a hot fix for this so bad. I was so damn good at sneaking around them and stealth killing. It’s a nightmare now!

[@lactoseintolerantgaming2711]

I really think there is something about them seeing through walls/buildings, the biggest noticeable change for me is how many I aggro while in a house crouch walking.

[@nagash0584]

You open a door and the whole village is beating living hell out of you

[@mnspstudioful]

Sneaking still works for me, but I was also aggro'ed by two zeds across the street and downstairs from the top level of a Police bldg. However I assumed it was server settings as a play Livonia XBox servers almost exclusively and they have a VERY WIDE range of weird settings on zeds (and animals) sometimes. And on PC I play militarized Deer Isle and Valning servers a lot so... very few zeds in the spawn settings. They are like a tiny mosquito while other players are like A-10 warthogs dressed in Tarkov mod tier 6 armor and carrying "tappers". So my experience varies wildly day-to-day.

[@jontyfreeman9651]

I was looting up in Voronov PD on Anastara. I aggroed a z from a million miles away, so much that though it was another player getting aggro. So I stopped and took up a defensive position, the zed stayed aggro on me the whole time I was in the building. Completely crazy

[@figgypudding6996]

Still beats zombies hitting you through walls, OG players will remember

[@benraimonde1191]

Yeah I’ve noticed this too, I’ve only put around 4 hours in this update and I’ve already seen Zombies agro from like 75 meters, walk straight through the hangar walls at NW airfield, and got killed by a hoarde of about 10 zombies after shooting suppressed at a few with a VZ-61 from 60 meters away up a hill behinds some bushes. I’ve also noticed them staying agro for upwards of 10 minutes if your in a building. I’m starting to avoid places that have zombies all together because of the new agro details.

[@gamerliam3142]

i was in an industrial area and i watched a zed jump 30ft and hit me straight to yellow

[@NocturnalProductions]

Its not just the Z'ds, even the wolves can find me in the second floor of a building. This was on livonia official

[@DrScandalous]

It'd be interesting to run some proximity tests with admin tools turned on so you could track zed movement/aggro on ESP/admin map (or heck, even a fixed sky view while spectating... bonus points for a multicam between the player on the ground + the fixed freecam/spectate view above.

[@Cackling_soups]

The zeds also seem more difficult to kill with melee, like the zombies that used to die with two axe hits can now tank four or five headshots axe hits

[@CragyOrgUk]

Same with wolves, I've seen them jumping right over fences into the base. Totally broken.

[@SHOGUNTHEIMPERIAL]

I can confirm that zombies now give zero shits about doors & walls now on console. I thought it was only my dumb luck

[@saulmackie5988]

They also no longer de-aggro. I'll be lying down not moving in a building for ten minutes and they're still building in aggro, not deescalating

[@RDAquariums]

As a Dayz vet with over 7k hours I can definitely confirm every issue mentioned. It is clear as day for me that something is very off with the zeds.

[@thegoodwolf4255]

Good its not just me, I noticed the crouch run for sneaking is basically broken now. I play on an organic RP server and I'm hearing like 10x as many shots from large towns, now I understand why

[@AussieBushman]

100% infected now getting agro without line of sight, and with little to no sound being made. I've tried various techniques and strategies to avoid the infected, all without success. It's a huge difference since the new update. (>5k hours in DayZ).

[@chip5617]

Thank you I keep saying this on update videos and people are saying they don't know what I'm talking about but I got agro in the rain at night over 50 feet away, I visited 3 towns and had to kill over 100 without ever shooting.

[@Robert-tg7ui]

Im all for the difficulty increase with zombies. But at least let it be realistic. Thats why dayz is my favorite. The realism. But having zombies agro on me three houses down by crouchwalking is ridiculous.

[@Payload25]

I noticed since the new update that the Z's are completely broken. I have played several times in recent days on PS5 and several times Z's came to my position even though it had been agroed by another player. And even in the bush, they see you now! It makes no sense. They absolutely need to review the AI ​​of the infected because we have reached a very low level.

[@legends.legacy007]

It’s like the zeds have been giving go go gadget arms whack you through the doors 😂

[@user-fj1ru5bk4d]

I do have to say, it has become alot more easier to trap in buildings in bigger numbers. They did improve the zombies invisible barrier like they said they would. I couldn’t walk by doors if zombies where there, i can now

[@UncalmChaos]

Zombies aggro on me from great distances while crouch walking on grass in patch 1.25. Noticed it within the first five minutes of playing this update.

[@StevenPD]

Truth! Something has changed. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks so. The Z change wouldn't be so irksome if it had been announced with the update which could mean that it's a bug and not a feature. Cheers!

[@ryanmiller6887]

I noticed if I was in a building and push the A key to strafe a zombie would make the sound they make when they look at you. I was thinking it must be the sound that triggers but you don't really hear anything. They are buggered and trigger way to easily. Maybe the did this on purpose.

[@Aggrobiscuit]

Been aggroing zeds from so far away I don't even hear them yelling, but military zeds seem the same as normal to me. Also, you can't use bushes to break line of sight to a zed now. You can hide in a bush, but if you're not in a bush they can see through it once they've heard you or think they've seen you. This has been happening since the last patch though.

[@ExpressoDepresso_]

It's been driving me nuts. They run through walls they aggro through buildings. They make you bleed like a mf on every hit I swear. Ps5 player. Can't do anything without them whooping your ass.

[@wastelander6341]

Yeah ive noticed this too. Its not just been since the stable 1.25 either. It was very noticeable when 1.25 released on experimental. Their hearing distance is definitely increased. Im thinking something has broken when they altered the not getting stuck in corners when infected are attacking. But yeah their awareness is insane now.

[@hardhits1]

hopefully it gets fixed in a hotfix asap man, it makes people stay out of towns, i try and avoid it as much as possible now because of this BS

[@nathanjacob0459]

I love the idea of making zeds more of a threat, instead of little more than a nuisance for geared players. And I like the idea of agroing one will agro the group they’re in. But, giving them Superman senses is not the way to do it. I was crouch running, in a house, at night, in the rain, and agro’d a zombie from 20 meters away. Absolutely insane.

[@ovialop1]

then what is the way to do it Sir?

[@AhPook]

@@ovialop1 Make them more durable is the most obvious answer. Having them constantly be aggro'd and rushing you 24/7 is just not fun for very clearly most of the playerbase, I am pretty sure players would be more chill with them being durable rather than them suddenly having psychic powers. Plenty of ways to go about it, most of them very obvious and suggested consistently over the years. As it stands, they're just a constant annoyance moreso than a threat, and annoying is bad for gameplay.

[@ovialop1]

@AhPook yeah i remember how that worked out when the Mummys came around. how everyone was screaming how op and awful they are.. 😂

[@AhPook]

@@ovialop1 There will always be a group of people complaining about something, chief. Sometimes you gotta ignore the screamers and just do what's best for the game, your numbers and measurable player metrics are a better thing to run off of than kids on the internet. The mummy complainers weren't even that vocal, most people seemed to like the idea of them.

[@nathanjacob0459]

@@ovialop1 Make stealth do able option, since the update it’s near impossible to stealth by a town solo, much less with buddies. There’s many options to make infected threatening that don’t include giving them super senses. Allow them to break down certain doors over time, allow them to climb up on cars instead of being able to cheese a whole group by knifing them from the hood of a crashed car. Or at the least, improve their AI so they don’t turn completely stupid when one zombie encounters multiple players and can’t decide who to go after. I also really like the idea of having a chance for “hordes” to spawn in towns or even in the wilderness. All of these are better than giving the zombies night vision and super hearing.

[@luke5g230]

Definitely need to be tweaked they have super hearing lol

[@uskok4636]

Zeds Ive encountered can walk through doors, agro on you if your unseen behind a building or they are far away. Literally the same experience as you. Ive also had runner zombies act confused. they literally run by me and not see me and run away lol. Ive also found my server is more laggy since the update.

[@ciarangallagher7527]

I don’t know if you’ll see this marks but Player footsteps seem to be more quieter now to the point where sometimes I don’t even hear a guy come up behind me and start shooting me I’ve had it happen on multiple accounts and same with the rest of my friends Player footsteps are broken and you cannot hear people

[@Messin_W_Hydra]

Zeds are still super crazy, I thought it was just me tripping. Glad I’m not the only one that this is happening to. Can’t do stealth kills a the take lot more damage to kill, they agro from a lot further away, crouching doesn’t help still. Zeds agro crazy like hordes

[@ciaranh7456]

In my experience roughly 90% of first hits from z's results in a cut. I've also noticed the z's are tanking multiple rounds, including headshots

[@gnarson]

Was playing modded last night shooting suppressed from 200 - 300 meters out and after one kill all the zombies in the military tents started sprinting at me...somethings seriously fkd

[@pug1975]

They changed Zeds alertness(distance) in 1.24, likely conflicting with some other chnage in 1.25.

[@ferociousfil5747]

They also get angles on you and are able to get through your defence. They are definitely “smarter AI”

[@WeanWind]

The only change I noticed is that they can hear you open doors now.

[@evil_voidxii7317]

I've been in mishkino tents guys and almost died due 1 zombie roaring and in a minute it was a hoard chasing me down careful around zombies

[@STOKER_DayZ]

one zed in a group aggro'ing the others makes perfect sense - the rest is borked - and I have noticed that knives are way too flimsy

[@crazyjoker5440]

I always like a new challenge to experience but this is too much; When I tried to sneak attacking a zombie with a knife they always hear me before I got close to them while wearing shoes and I always got spotted by a Group of zeds when I wasn’t even close to them or when I was crouch walking in a building. I have to shoot them because of how many there are. So I do agree that there is something wrong with the zeds AI in this update.

[@Sh4quille0atmeal]

i was crouch walking inside of the staroye pd and i aggro'd like 5 or 6 infected somehow most of them coming all the way from the medical building. i used to be able to just run through a town and aggro maybe only a few

[@ArchieStormcloudOfficial]

Yes, bro. I was on the stream and they were hearing me 50m away and one hit was wrecking my clothes. I tried my typical _locking them in sheds_ method and they ran straight through the doors. I blame Lad.

[@sonnymiller6571]

We've also noticed that sometimes they seem to just ignore big powerful swings I'm not sure what's going on but there's definitely something wrong here guys

[@drunkskunk828]

Yeah zombies agro from far away, while crouching even in buildings also seemed like they could hear me closing doors.

[@redshift912]

They have been able to hear doors for a bunch of patches now . ( not saying they aren’t more sensitive now but the door thing has been a thing for a while now )

[@alexanderafonin1688]

since the last update you could stay inside the building with closed doors on the second floor and get the aggro from infected

[@Xxnightwalk1]

When one zombie agrros you and enters fight it does send a stim around it that alerts nearby infected -> This has always been the case In terms of metrics, gunshots are heard by infected up to 200m, non gun / explosion sounds are heard up to 35m Big caveat on those metrics -> each stim has an associated "strength" ( let's say a gunshot is 100 and a foot step is 10 ) -> This "strength" decreases linearly over distance ( it will be at 0.01 at the max distance of the "noise type" ) -> So your gunshot will give a ping of 100 if you stand next to the infected but 50 at 100 meters -> This strength gets accumulated over time by the infected -> reach 100 and they fight, reach 50 and they go to investigate -> this "alert level" accumulated by the infected will eventually decrease overtime -> these noises are NOT blocked by walls, just dampened ( if there is a wall less than 10 meters from you between you and the infected a multiplier is applied to the "strength", decreasing it Infected also see 50 meters away ( depends on where the head is looking, they might be staring at their feet ) While you are in the vision cone, their alert will increase overtime, pushing them towards you They also have a 360 LOS for close proximity ( they "feel" you when you are a1 or 2 meters behind them ) These metrics are from what I remember from 3 years ago ( 1.14 ), but I doubt the system has changed much and that those metrics were tweaked substantially What could be going on is that the raycasts fail on the server for some reason and you never get the dampening of sounds ( that feeling of infected hearing you through buildings more ) And if that is indeed the issue, vision might also be affected ( some bushes or small geometry that used to conceal you might not do so anymore )

[@Sean-sn9ld]

Interesting 🤔

[@Bacardibatman]

stealthing through places is hard now, Zs just seem to aggro, even a stealth attack from behind is becoming hard to execute. I just decided to brute force them yesterday no or little blocking and find new clothes.

[@danielabbey1976]

I have also noticed that the Z's are alot more sensitive to the point it's not fun to play anymore at times

[@stumpfast1157]

100% I can't seem to do the stealth kill at all anymore ?