Daz 3D Tutorial : How To Use Genesis 8 Poses On Genesis 9

[@RaukoDaz3D]

Gen 9 Model : tinyurl.com/3kx9pwnb Hair : tinyurl.com/5w82wwcn Top : tinyurl.com/yc2mrw2j Gen 8 Model : tinyurl.com/4yhsp4v5 Hair : tinyurl.com/y3nfx9mb

[@joejoyner2330]

I just discovered this video today. Thanks for the information! I've downloaded Richard's script and will install it when I decide to install Genesis 9. I appreciate your other Daz Studio videos as well.

[@RaukoDaz3D]

You're welcome Joe - but just for information sakes .. the script here does still work but it's probably been superseded by an App on the Daz store that probably does it better and without the need for a G8 model in scene .. tinyurl.com/nhczjnuu However, as a free option, this way and this script works fine ..

[@malcolmflawith]

Thanks Rauko. That gave me the incentive to buy V9. Have a great day

[@RaukoDaz3D]

Good one! She's a looker! Have fun!

[@lancetindall3367]

Downloaded and added this script to my installation. Awesome! The only Gen 9 I have right now is the Toons but this script works fantastic. Gets all the basics transfered and I only have to make a few minor tweaks. Great time saver. Thank you so much for the script and for this tutorial. Really enjoying going through your videos.

[@RaukoDaz3D]

I won't take credit for the script - things like that are beyond me .. will reserve praise on that score for "RichardAndTracy" over on the Daz forums .. but happy to point you towards it and glad it's helping you out.

[@sergioc.cutrona6807]

Thanks Rauko, you're always informative (and also great). One question: After you transfer the pose, can you save the transferred pose as a functioning preset pose for Genesis 9?

[@RaukoDaz3D]

Thanks Sergio ... Oh .. good question .. I never thought of that ,, Just tested .. YES!!

[@habibsoufi]

I just checked your gallery , and it is amazing you should make a video with a nice muse displaying all that beauty

[@RaukoDaz3D]

Ha! Thanks Habib .. I'm just happy to have my pics on a gallery for now!

[@toapyandfriends]

This is the best channel ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@RaukoDaz3D]

Thanks Toapy!

[@Tanna-Marra]

Works great, Rauko and thank you so much for this tutorial, it's appreciated!

[@RaukoDaz3D]

You're welcome, Tana. Glad to help out!

[@farfetchedtangmo7474]

Thanks, Rauko. You're the best there is. This is a must do for my list. Now if only I can get it properly installed in my jacked up file/folder structure. As an aside, the only real issue I've had with clothing is items with buttons designed to parent/child was G8 bones.

[@RaukoDaz3D]

Awww shucks .. 😀 .. as for "jacked up file / folder structures" .. that's why I had to create a separate "Daz Tutorials" section on another drive just so I can find things in good order when doing videos .. If i didn't .. the videos would take 3x longer to make and would be 2x longer to watch!

[@VintageForYou]

Good video you have a new SUB Genesis 3 and 8 to 9 Pose Converter add-on that works better for me.

[@RaukoDaz3D]

Thanks Malcolm - yeah, the Gen 3 / 8 to 9 converter has now superseded the script in theis video - but, it's still handy for those who don't want to spend the pennies!

[@toapyandfriends]

For anybody watching this I just figured out you could do it yourself you could convert G8 animation into a genesis 9 by doing it frame by frame it's more work than usual but it's way less work than animating by hand

[@RaukoDaz3D]

Oh! There you go .. I put the same answer on an earlier post of yours! Time consuming .. but doable!

[@Severance8859]

I love you, you are amazing! :D

[@RaukoDaz3D]

Ahhhhh shucks!

[@milaabbott7183]

Thank you! That really helped me a lot! 😊

[@RaukoDaz3D]

You're welcome Mila - glad to have been some help!

[@hleet]

thanks for the little tutorial

[@RaukoDaz3D]

No problem!

[@toapyandfriends]

TYSM!!!

[@RaukoDaz3D]

YW!

[@JL78Daz3D]

I noticed you have selected "hip" for G9, as you said in the vid, but then, for G8.1F, you said to do the same thing, but you have choosed simply "Genesis 8.1 female" and not "hip" (as written in the script). May I know why? Thanks

[@RaukoDaz3D]

Oh, you're right .. I never noticed I'd done that .. 😀 .. guess it works by just selecting the G8 Model then too!

[@DarknessValtier]

Hey, what is that HDRI background you ar using!?

[@RaukoDaz3D]

Hey there .. There's no HDRI in this scene .. just a couple of spotlights .. the actual background is a stage from www.daz3d.com/li-incandescent--portrait-lighting-for-iray

[@BarbaricApePro]

is there a way to use lip sync for gen 9? or convert expressions to gen 9?

[@RaukoDaz3D]

I don't think there's anything yet for lip-syncing .. so that will be a no for now. And again, as far as I'm aware, nothing to convert expressions.

[@BarbaricApePro]

@@RaukoDaz3D ok thanks for replying I like a lot gen 9 models but until they add lip sync I’ll wait til I buy some xD

[@peterbabicki8252]

Thanks for the script and tutorial, Rauko. What lighting setup were you using during this tutorial? It has a nice feel to it.

[@RaukoDaz3D]

You're welcome, Peter .. Lighting? Nothing special .. a couple of spotlights with one either side of the models ..

[@RaphaelRock1]

Nice tutorial, thank you so much!!!! What is the environment are you using?

[@RaukoDaz3D]

Hey there - thanks. Nothing special .. just a couple of lights I threw in the scene with a backwall ..

[@toapyandfriends]

Will this work on animations if so can you make a tutorial on how to do it or let me know...I WOULD BE LIKE😆👍

[@RaukoDaz3D]

One frame at a time .. by hand .. it might take a while though!

[@richardmethot7195]

It's a nice, work around for now... personally im just not feeling genesis 9.. i probably should have waited for a big sale before the purchase of it. Don't get me wrong, yeah it's hd, and yea nicely made, but i think i would have preferred them working on a better daz update, with a UI I can read on a 4 k monitor for some reason i'd feel that was more valuable, but also my go to creators are basically Mousso and isourcetextures, as they look real. i did buy the zev0 child morph from the daz store... LOL can i get my money back. Great video as always man. keep em coming!

[@RaukoDaz3D]

If there's more compatibility then there will be a bigger take up of Gen 9 .. which will cause the PAs to create more stuff .. and the snowball will roll down the hill and in a year or so, Gen 9 will be used as much as Gen 8 is now and previous Gens were in the past. So this little script helps in that regard. I do think Daz have dropped the ball somewhat .. they should have had a bunch of PAs with character models ready to go .. if not on launch day (as they'd want people to buy Vicki 9) but definitely the day afterwards .. So far we've had 2 more character models drop in what? 4 or 5 days? They should have had 2 a day at least ready to roll out .. let people see what Gen 9 can really do over Gen 8 .. but we don't know .. Vicki 9, being their flagshop model, was always going to be good .. but we have no idea what the average Gen 9 is going to deliver and so a number of people are still sitting with that "let's wait and see" attitude ..

[@ajandrewsmusic]

can you think as to why it isn't appearing in my scripts folder if I did everything you said?

[@RaukoDaz3D]

Hey there - sorry, I can't. If it's been put in the right folder then it should be there .. there's no reason why it wouldn't show up .. Just make sure you're only putting the "Script" folder into your content library and NOT the top level content folder .. Ahhh .. hold on .. inside the script folder is another folder called "ChestnutP" .. the script files are in THAT folder .. so look for that! Let me know if that's it!

[@ajandrewsmusic]

It worked when I used the ChestnutP folder, but I also found a little work around where I had both models loaded and then I just double clicked on the .dsa script in my regular finder and the option to select the hips appeared in Daz Studio@@RaukoDaz3D

[@DeepSouthSimulations]

Overall it's been more compatible than I was expecting, but I still haven't figured out a way to get a pair of heels to work right and there were no G9 heels available on the marketplace the last I checked.

[@RaukoDaz3D]

Long dresses and trousers stuggle at times .. and feet / shoes were always a problem from G3 to G8 too .. so it just looks like things are continuing as they did in the past!

[@leonelson4038]

the download link on the forum isn't working anymore

[@RaukoDaz3D]

Hey there - just checked it and it seems to work for me .. I've uploaded it to a Mega account - try this out : mega.nz/file/RjB3FIbJ#tsQIMlDlwJI-0GPh_Bvva9oCa-PGys8fGtNT3t1YvVk

[@HoneyDropsForever]

Can we get a converter for animations as well--I have a huge library I can't use for 9...

[@RaukoDaz3D]

I wouldn't know Alicia - I never wrote the script .. you might have to ask on the forum post that's linked in the description of this video!

[@ninar.5754]

Nice sprict. But is there any way to copy a pose from gen8 to gen9 while making the two bodies exactly identical in height, arm lenght etc? Gen9 has different proportions and is about a head smaller than gen8 :( Id need my gen8 pose that i made for using it in Skyrim for personal use copied as is, arms and other parts should be exactly on top the gen8 body. I saw that there is a g8 clone under hidden, but it doesnt work with the script, hands get all messed up

[@RaukoDaz3D]

I'd think that would be a little difficult to do .. but then, I don't write scripts so I probably wouldn't know. Your best bet would be to ask on the forum thread that's linked in the description of this video.

[@snaketto1]

is there a way to convert or use g8/8.1 texture on g9

[@RaukoDaz3D]

I'm just looking into whether we can or not ..

[@xavierhatten9011]

I got and Daz3D ad on a video about Daz 3D while im using Daz 3D software at the same time 😒

[@RaukoDaz3D]

Least it shows the ads that KZbin are serving are targeted correctly .. 😂

[@grayukuk]

💥I'm sure I would have made that a whole lot more complicated!!💥 Thanks Again 👍👍

[@RaukoDaz3D]

I'm sure you'd have done a grand job!

[@dmrm2161]

The download in the link, doesn't work

[@RaukoDaz3D]

The script no longer works? I've not used this solution for a while as there's an actual product available on the Daz store which I use now .. but I'll check it out

[@dmrm2161]

@@RaukoDaz3D No the script, the link. I can't download the script.

[@RaukoDaz3D]

@@dmrm2161 Ah right .. again, I've just tried and it downloaded fine for me so I don't know what's happening there .. I've uploaded it here : www.daz3dtutorials.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/4d082b46c5ede61bcf4aa31a683fa3.zip So see if that works for you .. it should auto-download when you click the link and go into your download folder

[@dmrm2161]

@@RaukoDaz3D Thank you. It worked!

[@simoozinoo2238]

@@RaukoDaz3D Yup it works, thanks for the reupload

[@victorovsey3478]

The script seems to translate oddly, it distorts the extremities for some reason.

[@RaukoDaz3D]

Hhhmm .. I can't say I've had any problems with it when I used it. But .. there's now an actual better method of doing this anyway available on the Daz store so if you don't mind spending a few $$ then you'd probably be best going down that path.

[@victorovsey3478]

I am using the G8 to G9 Morph described below. It seems to be distorting the mesh with even G9 poses.

[@victorovsey3478]

Was told that I will have to adjust the rigging, my problem is independent of the script presented here.

[@RaukoDaz3D]

@@victorovsey3478 As mentioned - I've never encountered this problem with this script .. I notice though in a post below from you about "adjusting the rigging" .. Are you using a non-standard Genesis model? The idea behind the script is to convert the rigging / bones from G8 to G9 .. so if you're using a non-standard G9 then that could explain your problem.

[@ThePzrLdr]

Although the script says G8F it works with G8 males too.

[@RaukoDaz3D]

Yeah, it will work with both as the underlying skeleton / rig on them are the same!

[@jontaylor1652]

Thanks Rauko, good stuff as always. I can't speak of Victoria 9 because I haven't got it yet, but as for Gen 8 I'm totally not getting on with it and don't like it at all so far. How the hell are we supposed to use it?You load the figure in and it looks like something that's half man half woman and no matter what I do with it, it still ends up looking like half man half woman...grrrrr!

[@RaukoDaz3D]

Thanks Jon .. as for G9 (I assume you meant Gen 9) and the Half-Man-Half-Woman set up .... with the model selected, go to the "Shapes" tab and select Genesis 9 ... then, in the little search box .. type "Base" and you'll be presented with 4 sliders .. 2 to turn the figure into a man .. and 2 to turn them into a woman .. or, mix and match cos it's the 21st century and it's all the rage these days! The Body sliders will just change the body shape .. thile the non-Body slider will change body and head ..

[@mbarnick1]

Ok ... and where do i find the script? It would be nice to add the link somewhere. 🙂

[@RaukoDaz3D]

.. If you check the description above as suggested in the video 😀 ...........

[@NEKO7853]

Aye.....complicated....

[@RaukoDaz3D]

The pain is having to have a G8 in the scene .. but beyond that, it's simple enough

[@antop4597]

Could do with a video explaining how to get G8 shoes/heels working on G9 because i can't get it working at all

[@RaukoDaz3D]

It's tough .. the same problems existed with G3 to G8 when it came to high heels .. I'll have a look into it again and see if there is a solution knocking around!

[@user-os7ec4dm8x]

How do you remove the 8k detail maps? Do you switch 'Detail' to off in surfaces tab? The figure then looks pretty bad and shiny with no detail at all, does it just remove the Normal maps? How do you choose the 4k details?

[@RaukoDaz3D]

Removing the detail maps will remove the "roughness" from the skin and so it will look shiny and flat as you noticed. At the moment .. Only Vicki 9 uses the 8192x8192 detail maps .. The 4096x4096 maps are on the base Genesis 9 model. Select Vicki 8 .. Go to Surfaces Tab > Victoria 9 HD > Surfaces > Head .. (as an example) In the details secton ... left click the actual blue "Detail Normal Map" icon .. and then in the menu that opens .. hit Browse In the folder that opens .. go up one level to Base .. then go into the Feminine_01 folder .. you'll find the 4096x4096 detail maps in there that the base Gen 9 model uses (the same size as Gen 8.1) .. so locate the one for Head, select it and hit "Open" Do the above for each surface Alternatively .. if you're NEVER going to use the 8192 detail maps .. in the "folder that opens" above .. instead of going to Base .. open each detail map for Vicki 9 in a paint package (like Photoshop or Gimp) and resize each of them to 4096x4096 (I'd make a copy of each of them first!) .. save them out as the same name .. that way .. each time Vicki 9 loads, she'll load you're newly resized 4096x4096 detail maps rather than the 8192x8192

[@user-os7ec4dm8x]

@@RaukoDaz3D Thanks for the detailed reply, I assumed that the 'Normal Default' and 'Normal HD' squares you can load in from the V9 Materials tab in content- one would be 8k and one 4k, so I'm not sure of the difference there. The V9 figure with hair and swimwear uses about 6gb of Vram when rendering, I'm trying to lessen this, I'm not sure why that guy from Daz said you could render V9 with a 3gb of vram...

[@RaukoDaz3D]

No, the "Normal Default" and "Normal HD" are different Normals .. 😀.. every 3d object comes with a normal map that allows bumps and lumps to be added to a texture without the need for geometry .. with Gen 9.0 (actually started with Gen 8.1) Daz introduced "Detail Normal maps" as an addition to a "Normal Map" ... the "Detail Normal Maps" are for micro-texturing the skin (so adding pores etc) while the .. errm .. normal .. "Normal Maps" can be used to add bigger detials to a texutre .. so in our case that could be spots or raised scars etc I think they should have used a different naming convention .. 🙄 Think "Normal Maps" for stand out detail .. while "Detail Normal Maps" for micro-detail .. It's the "Detail Normal Maps" that are 8192x8192 (on Gen 8.1 these were 4096x4096) .. while the (normal) "Normal Maps" are 4096x4096 So if these are too big of a memory sink .. do what I suggest above and resize them to 4096 in Photoshop (but make a copy of them first .. if you use the original names for your 4096 then these smaller maps will always load in when you load Vicki 9) .. You could even reduce them to 2048 .. BUT .. The smaller you make them .. you'll not only lose detail but you'll also lose "virtual" surface area which means the skin will start to go shiny because there's less detail to trap the light .. so to counter the shiny-ness .. look for "Dual Lobe Specular Roughness" there's a few roughness sliders in there so you'll have to experiment with them to find the best one to use and it should start to reduce the shiny bits .

[@user-os7ec4dm8x]

@@RaukoDaz3D Thanks that makes more sense, pretty dumb to name on HD Normal and one default whan they are bragging about V9 being HD without the need for add ons it's just confusing, it must be really baffling to people who have never dabbled in 3d rendering before. And now you have separate objects for eyes and mouth and a separate makeup feature.... cheers for the help anyway mate!

[@ac3d657]

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[@RaukoDaz3D]

I'll take that as a good thing! 👍