DB Cooper Was a Case I Wanted to Solve - Larry Carr

[@drewbeeson7117]

Great interview Darren!

[@realgonegonzo]

This was long overdue and we are thrilled! yes Drew...I absolutely agree. we appreciate all the hard work!

[@markdelgado8963]

Well, yes and no. Darren is fantastic as usual, but Carr is full of it. The man has added massive amounts of information, and even more disinformation. I don't trust anybody who works for an alphabet agency.

[@MrJsv650]

Great timing ☺️ super pumped for this episode

[@kellyschaefer5735]

Listened to this one over the weekend. Excellent interview!

[@BenJamin-pd4mp]

Great episode

[@VanishedPNW]

56:00-59:00 like freaking music to my ears, im pretty sure I've said this verbatim, hundreds of times over the years, the whole bit. All of it. Fucking BINGO. That is objectivity and logic.

[@jayweiss4378]

I really like Darren’s theory that Cooper and McCoy might have known each other! That’s worth looking into a little deeper….

[@intrigueproductions5344]

Netflix doc coming next week. Awesome!!

[@100popsongs]

Larry “there’s literally nothing to investigate”. Darren *spends life investigating*

[@goblazers6]

😂

[@markdelgado8963]

Nothing to investigate because this hijacking was solved half a century ago, and swept under the rug in the name of national security.

[@bobnewby9129]

This was an interesting but frustrating interview. Carr says he thinks Cooper died that night but gave no real evidence to support his thinking. He said Cooper jumped into the "wilderness." Not true. He almost certainly jumped south of the Lewis River which would have put his landing in area that would properly be called rural farmland, small town, or suburban (depending on how close to the Columbia River he landed). I think this is the most misleading myth about the Cooper case and I'm shocked the lead agent would repeat it in the 2020's. Also, Carr talked about the detailed profile Raleigh had on their customers. WHAT WAS IT? Total missed opportunity there! I would really like to see the profile.

[@chriszaun8984]

Carr is so sure cooper died in the jump but they found no money,shoot or cooper

[@joinjen3854]

Does anyone else find it strange that Tina Mucklows sister was married to an active FBI agent at the time, based in either Oregon or Washington. I think they lived in or near Vancouver Wa at that time.

[@carolbrady658]

I'm thinking that this whole case is some kind of false flag

[@carolbrady658]

Yes, she's in on it

[@markdelgado8963]

Coincidence, nothing more.

[@williamcoolidge9884]

No.

[@dragonfly7380]

Just got into this haven't listened to your podcasts yet. I just finished watching the dB Cooper doc on Netflix. Has anyone looked into it being albert weinberg himself he looks just like the sketches.

[@markdelgado8963]

Question, the hijacker of flight 305 asked the airline stewardess how to operate the aft rear stairs because he obviously didn't know how. Yet less than six months later a near identical hijacking of flight 855 took place. His name was Richard McCoy, yet McCoy didn't need to ask how to lower the rear aft stairs because he obviously already knew. Can anyone explain exactly when, where and how McCoy learned this information?

[@joinjen3854]

The military or CIA version if the 727 is configured different than the commercial version. A 1 minute internet search gets you that info.

[@ChuckchewyCaliActive]

@@joinjen3854 no internet in 1973 moron

[@markdelgado8963]

@@joinjen3854 Um, I have actually seen the Air America documentary where there is about a two minute segment demonstrating the 727's use dropping crates and paratroopers. 1967-68 was the time frame.

[@joinjen3854]

@@markdelgado8963 so you are dumb enough to believe what the see eye a tells you? I was military aircrew and made jumps military and civilian.

[@VanishedPNW]

Richard McCoy probably just pulled the fucking lever. It's not hard. Big lever, pull it, stairs release.

[@100popsongs]

Honestly Larry sounds pretty disinterested, like he never had any real insight into the case.

[@rogerwest905]

Sound just the opposite to me.

[@joinjen3854]

Larry sounds like so many other arrogant FBI agents. It is a very weird culture and they take offense easily.

[@chriszaun8984]

Db cooper has been kicking the FBI rear end for 51 years

[@VanishedPNW]

Well, it was his job, and I think that's the key. Is he going to be as knowledgeable or insightful as, say, myself, who has obsessed over it for two decades? Not a chance. Reason? I don't get paid to do it, I'm just a weirdo. Larry's job was to find DB Cooper. Naturally, he's not going to be at all as excited about it as any of us. Plus, he had other things, too. DB Cooper was not a priority, it was more of a "hey if we can easily solve this it'll get the FBI loads of great press" type of case.

[@Maverick25ish]

Did you listen to the video? Larry sounded pretty excited to me when he come across the files and wanted to take over the case because it was cool :)

[@joinjen3854]

The FBI finally went on a " fishing expedition " to see what non cops were finding. They quashed info that got too close. Larry was a low man on the totem pole in the FBI. Higher ups knew what happened and it embarrasses law enforcement.

[@markdelgado8963]

Now what gets my goat are these facts- the FBI lost both the cigarette butts, strand of hair and also covered up the existence of the clip on tie and tie clasp for more than two decades. Why?

[@rogerwest905]

The cigarette butts weren't lost. It is the FBI Documents that they tested them for what they could at the time and then disposed of them.

[@joinjen3854]

The FBI knew long ago who it was and it embarrassed them. The intention is to be Unsolved forever. And no, it wasn't failed hijacker McCoy.

[@markdelgado8963]

@@rogerwest905 Larry Carr knows a whole hell of a lot more information, and he's already shared a ton of the same.

[@VanishedPNW]

They held back that they had his tie so that they could immediately scratch out suspects who, when asked if they left anything aboard the plane, could be evaluated by that one piece of information the FBI knew that nobody else knew. It's just that simple man.

[@bobabooey5853]

Nobody else of interest Larry? Not even the disgruntled Green Beret that was a truck driver in Vancouver? The same guy who hijacked his own cargo and got caught isn't of interest a couple years later?You know the guy with almost 1000 military jumps in Vietnam,who deserted to the Congo because he would be paid more?He's not of interest?The CIA verified asset? He's been cleared,Larry?The guy that wrote essentially the same thing in letter 6 that he wrote in October 1967 Ramparts magazine?? The guy that died in Pennsylvania, the same state as Crucible Steel?He isn't a person of interest?The same guy EVERY special forces commando that served with him unilaterally believes to be Cooper? Nothing to see here folks

[@catdude5567]

Darren, I'm going to email you my thoughts on this case. Might be a week or month from now, but I'll get it to you. 😃

[@goblazers6]

I look forward to it.

[@ChuckchewyCaliActive]

Bro why didn’t u ask him more abt why he thinks he dies that night?! Like what happened during the jump. U ask everything except the actual theory on why he feels like h died cmon man lol

[@chriszaun8984]

I wouldn't have larry carr on the show,he gives zero evidence that cooper died that night

[@VanishedPNW]

There is evidence enough to draw a reasonable conclusion that he died that night, yes. Besides, what evidence is there that he lived? None. Not a bit. Two feet from the high water line of the largest river west of the Mississippi, an object that was bound to Cooper's body by 65 feet of rope washed ashore. That's akin to finding his shoe on the bank of the river, or his shirt, or something. It makes zero logical sense that he'd leave it behind, he just threatened to kill himself for it, and then put his own life at risk trying to get it....then leaves a bunch of it?? Not a fuckin chance. So then, maybe it came separated from him, sure, but still...he came down in the river, it is all but assured.

[@chriszaun8984]

@@VanishedPNW what evidence that he lived?no body,no large sum of money,no brief case,no parachute and there were multiple searches for cooper that came up whith nothing and that includes checking the Columbia multiple times

[@VanishedPNW]

@@chriszaun8984 Nobody checked the Columbia. Not for a decade. And good luck simply "checking the Columbia." It's nearly a mile across in most places, up to 300 feet deep. Go ahead and check it all you like. They found money, and found hundreds of tiny pieces of money in addition to that, meaning there was a whole lot more. The chances of finding money are so slim that the odds are heavily in favor of the money that was found having been recently separated from the whole of whatever was left of the ransom money.

[@chriszaun8984]

@@VanishedPNW all the db cooper copycats that jumped survived including some that never jumped before,this is the best evidence of coopers survival

[@VanishedPNW]

@@chriszaun8984 DB Cooper would have survived as well had he not landed in the Columbia River, that's the key difference. The other guys all hit land, Cooper didn't. How do we know? Key evidence was found just 6 feet from the waterline, buried in the sandbank, with bits and pieces up to three feet in the ground.