DBD's $350k Tournament was a Hilarious Disaster!

[@notOtzdarva]

Imagine how much easier it would have been with a simple "allow only X rarity items/add-ons" or "no duplicate perks" settings in KYF... 😭It has been painful to see how messy each DBD tournament has been for years now.

[@Dabrownman1812]

You're not otz

[@feddy5264]

You and me both otzdarva we need to do a tournament ourselves

[@dodiyo4127]

I agree, i’ve participated in dbd mobile tournaments in the past and i regret doing so. Just the amount of and restrictions on some were laughable and ridiculous. And i do get that some restrictions are there too get a more enjoyable/fair outcome in some tournaments. but there has too be a good and healthy mix between making them fair and making them just plain messy

[@Random_Commentor_On_That_Video]

dang not only did i just find out otz watches this channel but he EARLY

[@ACEPORTGAS-b7o]

I think thats not Otzdarva

[@doomguy3830]

The fact they banned perks and had a rule against camping for new players who have no idea what they are doing blows my mind

[@joshwalton25]

Weird one for me was "you can't go back to the hook" like...wut? Are you just supposed to ignore an entire chunk of the map until you get another down? That's like telling survivors they can heal under hook for free. Or basically saying "hey. If you can get hooked near a gen and then rescued, just tell your teammates to hide while you do the gen for free since the killer can't come back there until they get another down."

[@joshwalton25]

They should have just made 4 pre-set perk builds with general themes (Runner, Healer, Leader, Savior) and had the survivors pick their "role". Then players don't have to worry about all the perk/item related rules. Do the same thing for killer side but just have 1 decent pre-set build for each killer, and call it a day. Though judging by what I saw here, idk if everyone being able to run the meta build would have helped much. DH isn't helpful if you're not sure what it does and DS is downright useless if you can't hit a skill check.

[@sylvievadimsky7515]

It was probably because they intended to play by DBD’s official comp rules, but it’s very confusing for someone brand new if you have no idea what you’re doing.

[@4evermilkman]

That is mindblowing but then they gave the winners 350k :l

[@sirgando3774]

Yeah its weird in the First place to disallow Camping seeing that it is the Most important Thing for Killers in actual comp Matches.

[@daskaninchen]

Love how the devs gave them codes and everything because they’re big streamers = big promotion but they‘re raging and hating the game 😂

[@fionagoode9238]

Meanwhile they tell people that if they are not having fun with the game, they can go play something else.

[@Setogayamari]

@@fionagoode9238 I took that advice and just found another game to play

[@CyberDragoon656]

@Tyber Auream or the devs should go back to game development 101.

[@fionagoode9238]

@@Setogayamari same

[@Setogayamari]

@@fionagoode9238 it feels great to lol

[@soursylveon4784]

It’s funny to hear the survivors arguing about the rules and trying to figure out perks while the other dude is just making gurgling sounds while spinning billy around

[@trxsh951]

You're telling me they were told ahead of time what the game was gonna be and even had time to play the game to get to know it and the one guy who actually prepped for this won? Shocking.

[@JogVodka]

Considering they were playing a couple of other games in the same tournament I'm not surprised if DbD was some of the people's lowest priority when getting prepped

[@Hoi4Hangout]

They are playing 5 games and didnt even bother to launch one of them at all for 350k...@@JogVodka

[@Chaogod1233]

I mean yeah. DBDs player base is a whole lot of people really bad at video games lmao

[@flossy5258]

​@@Chaogod1233not true

[@geekcouplegaming]

​@Chaogod1233 your opinion, not fact

[@TV-cv1eb]

Love how the one guys gets mad at another for hiring a coach and calls him a try hard. 350k is on the line you'd be stupid not too

[@shenles]

Imagine being invited to a tourney with $350k on the line. Downloading the game morning of. Then having the audacity to criticize someone who actually prepped.

[@donothesitate1198]

Imagine calling someone a try hard in a competitive tournament, that's the point

[@SopaDeLengua]

If the “try hard” is on the other team, it’s code for “I’m a sore loser”

[@alejosbanned]

they are friends its banter miz and jake are friends i repeat

[@EbonMaster]

He's playing it up.

[@Cowabungas]

"Is there a search button?" -Shroud We wish, Shroud.... We wish.

[@play5tbf]

we really do...

[@unknownuser4816]

6years and menu still looks the same, shitty and unintuitive.

[@tylerh6505]

it's literally alphabetized.....................if you need a search button.....................

[@richardsmith5803]

@@tylerh6505 its not a small list...

[@tylerh6505]

@@richardsmith5803 and yet it’s still alphabetized, if you can’t easily figure it out then i suggest returning to primary schooling

[@bipolarexpress9827]

Why did they use comp rules for absolute newbies. What were they thinking?

[@Random_Commentor_On_That_Video]

clip of avgn being like WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?!

[@xXTheBl4ckC4tXx]

They had a week to prepare, this gets obvious at the end in the interview. They did not even play the game even though some got people to teach them (like the winner) While I agree comp rules where a bit overkill, the blame lies mostly with the players for not even playing once or getting someone to explain and prepare.

[@mutemain8610]

@@xXTheBl4ckC4tXx if you think one week of playing this game would have prepared them, you are just as stupid as the devs. They also play games for a living and their stream genre is different than dbd meaning they have to play off camera after streaming for 8 hours. 🤦‍♂️🤡

[@gergovogronics850]

@@xXTheBl4ckC4tXx Shows how much 350K$ is worth to them. Some people would die for that money and these people can't even bother to play the game for a few hours to prepare.

[@rzwitdauncut]

@@xXTheBl4ckC4tXx bro this was probably the EASIEST money grab iv ever seen. i don’t even play dbd and i could have one. that was my competition? i would have blew them out the water. no question. i mean just stop and think for a few minutes. like really think about this. other tournaments like pubg or call of duty are straight sweat fest down to the last trigger. even for 50k. these guys got offered 350k to do skill checks on generators.....

[@ManlyOBeeferton]

This would be a life-changing amount money for a lot of people. So seeing Tim, Shroud, Courage (11:32) etc. not even put in the *minimum* effort to learn the very basics of the game (or even play it beforehand), actually repulses me. Apparently this amount of money is unimportant to them, so I sure as shit will never feel the need to donate or sub to them.

[@maddog2622]

Congrats? Why does that matter so much to you lmao

[@bungodunko4123]

@@maddog2622 he has a point why support someone who doesn't care or respect the value of money? That would mean your dono would most likely be wasted.

[@nathanhurst3192]

@@maddog2622 Grow up bro.

[@Alex-wq5lw]

@@bungodunko4123 sure but people don't dono to streamers like shroud expecting him to care and use the money sustainably, come on guys he's got at least tens of millions in networth, to him this is just a fun way to get together with some old friends and such. No need to be salty just cause this would change your life, Ludwig's subathon revenue would change the life of anyone and he was literally just sleeping for a third of it.

[@TheEye114]

Rich parasites acting entitled to money, what a shocker.

[@Jackrabbit0984]

This is a game that they could have had literally no restrictions/rules and it would be balanced due to the inexperience of the streamers. They effectively displayed the new player experience on fast forward and ruined any potential good press this tournament could've provided.

[@bubbles4602]

true but there was 1 girl who already knew how to play and the one guy who literally hired a coach so

[@fart63]

@@bubbles4602they can’t have both kinds of players. They have to either have all new or all experienced. It’s not fair for them to mix and match like that

[@sneakydragon2352]

@@fart63 the whole tournament wasn't just about DbD though, if you apply that rule to all the game they played, you wouldn't have anyone famous playing, making it a useless tournament

[@John-lr3ix]

@@bubbles4602 yeah, but all that experience probably pays triple with the inexperienced players having to figure out the rules and the game at the same time making it so they basically had to throw what little game plan they could have made over board in order to focus on complying with the rules.

[@mrcringe8286]

@@fart63will they have them time to prepare some did but most didn’t well nothing to be surprised about most of those streamer don’t really care to prepare a little bit for there content they just turn the camera on and say pointless crap or show there butts

[@loomecyv2653]

As much as they hated the game, it's important for DBD to take this feedback and adjust the game accordingly. This is literally viewing how a new player plays the game in real time and it's critical to analyse what went wrong and react accordingly

[@apollyon1584]

take feedback? Are you new to BHVR?

[@KucheKlizma]

BHVR take feedback? Lmao.

[@apollyon1584]

@Estrogen Fury just because someone doesn't play dead by daylight doesn't make him a normie dude... matter of fact, people that don't play DBD ARE the smart ones. We are subjecting ourselves to this torture, again and again because we're addicted and for what? to get backstabbed and disappointed by BHVR again and again and again and ag- if i could i would uninstall and forget this game existed, IN AN INSTANT. dead by daylight is nothing more than a shitty buggy quick cash grab scheme and bhvr has proven time and time again that they simply DO.NOT.CARE. about fixing this game.

[@Darkfire-1306]

Yeah but bhvr ignore feedback

[@budder_nubbs]

This wasn't regular DBD, this was a tourney with complicated rules. DBD has problems with it's balancing but the rules and stuff in this as well as the fact that these people decided not to ever try the game before a match they were playing to win in competitive competition really doesn't make it DBD's fault.

[@jossamar]

This is such a hilarious blunder from the DBD folks. They desperately need good press, and this was a great way for these streamers to hate on this game and tell their viewers to avoid it.

[@hungryhyena783]

That’s true; this was not good for DBD.

[@logangotcha8429]

Their PR is shitting bricks. From Patrick, to Ringu, to this. God, they are fucking up in the most glorious way possible

[@Zakon673]

@@logangotcha8429 What was wrong with Ringu? I didn't hear any drama regarding that other than Sadako being underpowered.

[@logangotcha8429]

@@Zakon673 Their playerbase for daily logins is hemorrhaging. Usually for DLC's there would be a positive growth for most games. For the Ringu, it was negative & it keeps getting lower.

[@Zakon673]

​@@logangotcha8429 That's not a PR blunder though.

[@BlackMetalBroad]

i think Mizkif is by far the worst one out of the bunch, raging at his own mistakes, blaming his teammates for it; he would've been a perfect dbd player

[@macavalli2619]

Dbd is barely a game. You've been conned

[@twinzzlers]

​@@macavalli2619 You don't exist, your reality is false.

[@lunasllenas1997]

@@macavalli2619 what?

[@macavalli2619]

@@lunasllenas1997 games are played for FUN Dbd ain't fun. Remember how that one DBD dev almost cried when those Japanese players tbaggged the sheeit outta him??? How many streamers said ON STREAM, THEY QUIT THE GAME???

[@josephhussain7238]

@@macavalli2619 same way some people find getting hit by a leather whip in bed is sexy, we all have different definitions of fun 😅

[@solidsnake2085]

It would have been hilarious to see Doctor with impossible skill check build.

[@cattythecat9722]

lol, that would have been evil af😭😂💀

[@nukenade4623]

low key thats been my doctor build for ages and i always run it when im mad at the game

[@hyperboi4077]

@@nukenade4623it’s such a good build to play casually lol. When I was trying to do the “shock people 500 times as doctor achievement,” I couldn’t even get 30 shocks in a match before the gens were done (I didn’t try to win just shock). I put on the impossible skill check build and got 300+ screams in one match lol. I was going against a fairly decent swf too.

[@Red-lu1rx]

I am gonna be honest, I would be the doctor 😂

[@real_pat_ftw420]

I was hoping for pinhead because i bet they would have been completely lost.

[@AnonVoids]

Honestly being a veteran player and seeing dbd getting roasted for lacking suck basic features (like a search field for skills, capped frame rate, etc) brings joy to my heart.. It’s literally insane that the game has changed so much but also evolved so little in such basic things

[@steelspeedy4513]

3:15 "Do you wanna walk faster?" "Sure" "Then I would do.... Selfcare" *I missed a great opportunity to win $350K*

[@kr3016]

That was supposed to be the more dbd knowledgeable one on the team, too. But she def meant self aware because it was equipped in the next few frames.

[@Bated.]

@@kr3016 She meant to say self aware.. its not really a big blunder.. nothing to do with knowledge, just misspoke

[@kr3016]

@@Bated. yeah, I figured - some other things the same person said, though, made me thing she was kind of new but still trying!

[@Thepharcyde4ever]

I heard that and said huh lol

[@bunnys9704]

I think maybe she meant that SHE would take self care and he could have self aware

[@adamdesimone2658]

"He has BBQ and chilli so he knows exactly where you are." "... wtf did you just say?" I'm dying in tears right now 😭

[@Nowayjosedev]

Me too... lmao

[@rogueraccoon1840]

They probably think he's eating some actual chili with BBQ sauce lol

[@gio1135]

what makes this funny

[@sweetirin1746]

I know my scratch marks part got me flaying she git in the locker 2 second before shroud follow her

[@bertov12]

lol I was dying too

[@kr3016]

Legit Question: how is the rule “camping is not allowed” meanwhile all comp leagues are fundamentally camping and tunneling?

[@saiyatv6100]

Most likely because a casual made that rule lol

[@jobraket]

"Camping is not allowed" wasn't in the rules they showed at the start of this video, so maybe the girl was just somewhat familiar with dbd and made that rule up, because it's a standard most casual players like to uphold. According to the rules though, tunneling would just give less points, because the point system incentivizes varied hooks, by giving you more points for each different first hook. Also how would you even fairly judge camping/tunneling in a tournament? It's not like there was an impartial judge around to make those calls.

[@gergovogronics850]

@@jobraket By the rules they showed in the intro it said "one perk perk player" So technically all of them cheated. Also i have no idea where that girl got the banned perks from, it's not mentioned in the rules. Also she did seem like she knew what she was talking about but when Shroud finds her in the locker and she wonders how he knew it's obvious she's a noob as well.

[@jobraket]

@@gergovogronics850 You're right, missed that. Just more stuff to pile on how weird the rules apparently were and how noone understood them.

[@gergovogronics850]

@@jobraket I'm also surprised there was noone ther from BHVR to explain stuff to them. It's like they just sat down together. There should've been an official spokeperson who also narrates the match.

[@Flopsztein]

"You wanna walk faster?" "Sure" "Then I would take self care" Comedy gold

[@Xh20islitX]

Ong lmfaooo

[@nickolaibrosky]

I realized when she said that she jus meant self awareness but fucked up lol

[@maymaylovesjack]

That had me lookin sideways 😭

[@CluelessSociety]

She meant fixated but that was gold🤣🤣🤣

[@walnutdbd5724]

Sitting in vc with all of my friends, 25k hours combined, watching this was the most infuriating/entertaining shit on the planet. The laughter that happened when someone told shroud they could get someone to teach him how to play and him just replying with “i will never play this game ever again” is priceless

[@blankaffinity]

Yep and he is smart to not play the game ever again. Why keep playing a game u didnt find enjoyable. Theres so many people with 1000 or 2000+ hours on DBD who keep playing but they dont enjoy their time playing the game, and constantly complain about not having fun. Go find an enjoyable game?

[@tjrex9458]

@@blankaffinity just because someone complains at a moment of stress, doesnt mean that they dont like it. So you're basically telling me to kill myself if i complain about life? Bruh moment

[@blankaffinity]

@@tjrex9458 Lmao what the fuck are u on about. If u play the game everyday, and find urself not enjoying the game, then stop playing the game and play something else. Ur analogy to suicide is irrelevant and completely disrespectful to anyone who might feel like that, as we are talking about a video game and not lifes issues.

[@TomoLamp]

@@tjrex9458 you are comparing a video game that frustrates you to real life holy fuck are you stretching this like its a rubber band

[@tjrex9458]

@@TomoLamp Both apply dude lmao. Just because something CAN be stressful, doesn't mean it WILL be, but you do you. Not like you gave an actual argument lmao

[@jonahclements6876]

“Do you want to walk faster?” “Sure!” “Then I would put on self-care” Me: “WHAT?!?!” *cuts to shroud having self-aware equipped*

[@syokusanagi]

bruh i was like wtf???

[@CreditR01]

JUST. WHY.

[@Red-lu1rx]

Imagine if he actually put it 😂

[@MrSatan_]

I think she meant that she has self-aware and if he want it too she is switching it out for self care. Not sure tho xD

[@Vastus9001]

You could tell just from her voice she didn’t know what she was talkin about. As soon as she said self “care” a light should’ve turned on in her head reminding her that that’s the healing perk and it’s self aware she wanted lol

[@lefeal9707]

I love how the guy (Mizkif?) was so angry/shocked about someone who prepared ahead of time in a tourney to win 350k.

[@Taylor_mamaof2]

Yeah I don’t get that either. They all could’ve at least done some research on the game and practiced. Why get mad if you didn’t even try in the first place?

[@xXTheBl4ckC4tXx]

Just insanity that people had 1 week and most did nothing, then hate on the game. It is so cringe.

[@Cowabungas]

He's friends with Jake btw so it's just banter before anyone thinks Mizkif was ACTUALLY mad at him lol

[@InterwovenElements]

Sounds like the kind of guy who would be pissed off that his co-worker, who puts in the work, got promoted instead of him. xD

[@johnbowker5797]

With dowsey no less🤣

[@GG_mangos]

its not in the video, but my favorite part was when Miz started watching an Otz killer tutorial video mid tournament to prepare for his match lmao

[@Darkfire-1306]

Lmao

[@TheDesertking12]

Can you link it

[@leonardolopes6360]

Please Link mate

[@ManlyOBeeferton]

I'm glad Miz didn't win then if he was that unprepared.

[@kyzer17]

@@ManlyOBeeferton many of them were unprepared, don't single him out.

[@suicydekyng8612]

The game was NEVER designed to be played in this way. The community just took it upon themselves. Its like having a million dollar Cards against humanity tournament.. its just ridiculous.

[@themightycrixus1131]

Exactly

[@HunglikeBDP]

That sounds like something someone totally should do.

[@poison5343]

Uno too 😂

[@shadowboy0126]

EXACTLY! The focus on competition in EVERY multiplayer game is ruining games. People cant play shit for fun anymore, they have to take it seriously and be toxic “pros”

[@nukenade4623]

its literally designed to be a funny party game that some people take too serious

[@TheScience69]

So she came up with a plan to go upstairs pretending to bring the killer a glass of water to look at his screen and cheat...and when that didn't work, they accused HIM of cheating and that's why it didn't work 🤔

[@everythingpony]

Timestamp?

[@nanavroc9328]

@@everythingpony 11:50 around there

[@baseballfan4877]

imagine thinking it would be fine for a bunch of people that have never played dbd to play in a comp tourney with stupid rules and also giving them demo + incentivizing them with money. Man this is some pathetic "come play our game, your favorite streamer is playing it" stuff.

[@eggmin8967]

Yeah i even think i have a better idea instead of a tournament they just told them to have fun in custom game like play the game somewhat normally and give them build suggeations for them to try like scratch mirror myers and Decption, head on

[@cromperer]

ATT organized this, a handful of the games that they had to play no one had ever played, they had a week to prepare and the bigger ego andys only installed the game 1 hour before the actual tournament started

[@MercLazarus]

That makes it all the sweeter that so many of them hated the game, called it ass and said they'd never play it again Try and buy players with the "your favourite streamer is playing it" instead turned into "your favourite streamer hates this game, better not play it"

[@WutTheDeuceGaming]

that's on them. They could have take the time to learn but they didn't. That's why the winner won, he had someone teach him the game.

[@GregerMoek]

Imagine thinking that was what happened.

[@FizzyFizze]

I think BHVR giving keys to the streamers for Demogorgon is unfair. Just because they're big streamers, that shouldn't be the reason to give out codes for a chapter that no one can acquire anymore. I have the chapter already, but when I think about newer players and them not begin able to play as Nancy, Steve and Demo, it's 100% unfair.

[@PonchitoPoncho2050]

BHVR IN A NUTSHELL….

[@gergovogronics850]

Well, everyone is equal. But popular streamers are more equal.

[@weaselly_moment]

you can still buy keys for the st chapter. just have to buy from a 3rd party site

[@almalone3282]

They could just rename demo change his model and keep his kit and bring him back that way

[@tbirdflocka898]

@@almalone3282 I've said this before. It would be so easy to just throw a werewolf cosmetic on top of him and call it a day.

[@chidzhustle3570]

15:00 oh GOD what’s funny is the “he’s camping my hook” was just the spirit standing still bc she’s using her power to Phase away

[@justinclement7211]

Survivors in prep: *Panic, Chaos* Hillbilly in prep: " I'm spinning like a ballerina"

[@lungboy8980]

Even though they were all being kind of dramatic it's really a testament to how unintuitive, confusing, cluttered, and rage-inducing DBD is lol

[@Bated.]

i think the bigger deal is that they banned everything for new players. Wasn't even the game tbh, the fucking terrible tournament organizers were the bigger issue.

[@malvark777]

@@Bated. The game has problems for new players too. The guy that did not understand what corrupt intervention did and just wasted time for the gem to unblock thought that all gens were blocked at the start. Also the other player that said "i have a debuff?" also has a point, as most debuffs dont really explain easily what they do on a first glance (i think broken and oblivious are the most obvious at communicating what they do). and killer powers as a whole.

[@A_Toastonawhiteplate]

And now image beeing a new player on this game

[@wolfrex2721]

@@malvark777 Dbd just has a lot you have to learn. It's not like FPS or RPG games where they all kinda play the same and you know what to do. Dbd is entirely different and you have to start entirely from scratch.

[@noblood6137]

@@malvark777 it’s fun, when I fist joined it was a thrill to learn what to do.

[@kadeferguson3369]

" is there a search button here?" I got 5 mins. into the video and that right there killed me. I am already dead. No Shroud there isn't. Not in 5 years has such an advanced feature been put into dbd. Also I really dont think they needed comp level rules. I mean sure every survivor could take dead hard, DS, BT etc....but the likely hood of missed skill checks and mis-timed dead hards would be high. To be blunt they likely wouldnt be able to use many of the perks to thier full potential like an experienced player would.

[@JudojugsVtuber]

we wouldve just seen a bunch of people waste dead hards and effectively waste their perk slots.

[@LightWavess]

The worst shit is, people in recent QnA asked devs for the search box... i dont need to say that they tried to make a shitty excuse of how much of a coding issue htis is

[@DunkMyNuts]

They'd have to build the game from the ground up obvi

[@AmalGum001]

@@LightWavess “No, we can’t add a simple feature that will filter perks based on a typed word. Adding it would completely destroy the whole game.” I’ve only attempted coding a few times and even I could probably add a search feature lmao

[@LightWavess]

@@AmalGum001 I mean dude, have you seen how many glitches does the recent update have? Rancor tier 3 doesn't work Space Billy is back (which isn't a bad thing) Midwich is disabled because one spot makes killers incapable of picking survivors up for some goddamn reason Blast mine sounds like a Nuke now James Sunderland has free Tier 4 Iron Will (He's mute both when healthy and when injured, p2w lol) Some spots on new Haddonfield makes you immune to being picked up Chainsaw audio bugs on both Billy and Leatherface when facing away from the killers. Myers has a visual infinite tier 3 icon bug and he can't mori anybody when they're using a map or a key. Sometimes you can vault the window silently as if you have free qnq And DSstrike KZbinr is actively finding new stuff which is ridiculous.

[@pizzaduffy]

I really feel bad for these guys especially since the tournament rules were a little much. I really hope the devs fix this stuff for the new players cause this is way to much for new players and people hosting DBD tournaments ease some rules too.

[@malvark777]

I had a friend who told me he dropped the game just a few days after starting because it was way too much infor without any tools in the game to explain them in an accesible way. His first 2 games he went vs a blight, then vs a plague lol. He then got to play VHS and enjoyed that game more

[@charles9590]

Don't worry, they won't.

[@pizzaduffy]

@@malvark777 I don’t blame your friend I think I’d have the same idea he had if I started playing now I wouldn’t last the 1st 2 hours probably.

[@TechniqueSan]

DBD looks and plays like it's still in Alpha. It baffles me that it's played competitively at all, let alone in a tournament setting.

[@pizzaduffy]

@@TechniqueSan I really hate that dbd has a competitive side I wish it kept the casual side

[@SudlaSteel]

Watching Dowsey coach Jake's team and then destroy everyone was fun af to watch

[@pizzaisgoodidk7370]

I love Tim but when he said “that guy has a cone on his head” and “they gave me the demigorgon” I just bursted out into laughter

[@raywilson641]

How..did they put together a 350k winnings pool for a game seemingly no one has practiced for?

[@sorin_markov]

Well it's not just for this game, it's 4 others as well

[@FlowersOfAmity]

they had time to practice for a week but didnt

[@Veristelle-]

A couple took it seriously enough to practice (Jake who won, for example), but most just didn't bother. $350k isn't enough for them to care, I guess...

[@greenender2508]

They had the option too they just didn’t give a shit

[@as0bi]

Seeing those streamers in pain playing DBD is pain for me. It’s not because they are bad at the game. It’s because they have no idea what to do, no clue on what’s the meta now, and the worst part is they got put into this random $350k tournament, hated the game, and came out as a fucking disaster. Whatever happens, I hope another tournament like this never happens again. This is the stupidest tournament I have ever seen. I would say a word worst than stupid but I don’t have the guts to. Edit: Fortnite is less of a dumpster fire than DBD at least. It’s pretty fun now.

[@Mr.Pepper-I]

SAY IT.

[@as0bi]

@@Mr.Pepper-I Don’t blame me. You sure?

[@firestar1230]

@@as0bi I give you the R word pass

[@as0bi]

@@firestar1230 Thank you! This is the most retarded tournament I have ever seen in my life.

[@junaidsaeed2958]

Fucking horseshit

[@onlyaladd569]

Why did they go into a tournament without doing any prep work first? They didn't even watch any youtube videos or try to figure out what the rules were? At least play the damn tutorial. No shit they had no idea what they were doing. Don't get me wrong DBD is in no way shape or form a competitive game, but this one was on the streamers.

[@itzdrillza7497]

I feel like it's equally on both parties honestly. No reason to implement tournament based rules on brand new players. But it's also abysmal how clueless some of these people that play video games for a living are.

[@okaythen7360]

That’s an insane amount of money to offer to people who didn’t even put the minimum effort into learning the game. Big respect to the guy who ended up winning, love that he took the time to practice

[@terrifyd7408]

as a 2-3k hour player on dbd this is exactly how i started, you honestly just gotta learn to hate yourself and make hella mistakes to get better

[@Jeremaiiia]

About the demogorgon: absolutely shameless from the devs. Disgusting.

[@nicane-9966]

tbf u can still buy the stranger things dlc on MOST pages... is just like 15 dls to 20, is expensive but there are HUGE LOAD of keys that are still usable...

[@Jeremaiiia]

@@nicane-9966 Nah that's a cop-out

[@TioBru.]

@@Jeremaiiia WHAT

[@play5tbf]

@@nicane-9966 yeah, but im playing on microsoft store and there is no code available, so its kind of fucked up that they can just give them a key with that like nothing happens

[@BARelement]

@@nicane-9966 not on console

[@dublex22]

Banning certain perks, items and addons seems really worthless when no one knows what to do with literally anything. Like why not let a team use 4 giga toolboxes with brand new parts? They would most likely waste them instantly and probably fail both skill checks simply because they haven’t seen them before. Then probably waste the toolbox itself by missing regular skill-checks after 😂. Sounds like content to me

[@greenender2508]

That would be horrible for the noob killer also they had the choice to learn about the game before but choose not to and then they get piss that they don’t know shit. This is completely on them but everyone is defending them and saying it’s all the games fault. which it’s pretty fucking shit but in this instance the steamers are in the wrong

[@dublex22]

@@greenender2508 huh dawg Where was I defending the streamers who didn’t learn any thing about the game before hand? I was just saying these rules and restrictions seem worthless when they (the streamers who learned nothing) have no idea how to use them anyway. I was just saying an unhinged tournament with no rules full of ppl who don’t know how to play the game sounds funny

[@hyperboi4077]

@@greenender2508 It’s on both tbf. Only two streamers actually put any amount of effort into this tournament, everyone else just kept complaining and talking about how bad the game is. The devs could’ve made this much easier by implementing the comp rules into the custom game modifiers that way they didn’t have to figure it out by themselves. At this point, the game has also been out for years and hadn’t even implemented the basics like we have now (the search bar, and the activity hud).

[@MiraculousMilk]

DBD is a competitive game in the sense that it's one side against the other. The longer you play, the better you have to be to win. It however, is not a competitive game in the sense of watching or playing for competitions. It doesn't have the balance or the structure for that. Throwing together a makeshift tournament hurts the game way more than it helps it.

[@pumpkinspice5848]

Dbd isn t comp, players need to make it comp

[@Taylor_mamaof2]

@@pumpkinspice5848 if it’s not comp then why do so many complain that it is lol?

[@MiraculousMilk]

@@pumpkinspice5848 read what I said again. This time with a little reading comprehension.

[@AutistikWaldo]

>join dbd tournament >play trapper >profit

[@jammyweegit1144]

"Camping isn't allowed" doesn't even make sense. How do you draw the line on what's camping and what isn't? They seemed to think tunneling someone off of hook was camping too, so I don't even know what the actual rule was.

[@malvark777]

its always a bad sign when developers use popular streamers for advertising instead of the streamers that already play their game here its even wors due to this game being out for so long. The playerbase is bleeding and it shows

[@Taylor_mamaof2]

Not sure if dbd organized this, asked to be in the tournament or but, but it was held by AT&T. There were 3 other games included. The developers may have not had anything to do with it, but who knows.

[@rzwitdauncut]

thats a huge slap in the face to the people that stream this DAILY like coconutrts. yea thats tuff. they should have dm him instead 😂😂🤣

[@TheOnlyPOOCH]

@@Taylor_mamaof2 the devs gave their accounts all dlcs so I'm guessing they had some knowledge and input on this

[@lothairdunn1151]

So, let me see if I understand this: they've put twenty non dbd players in a tournament with convoluted rules regarding what only a seasoned player could understand and the prize was 350k dollar? Think I'll apply for behaviour marketing manager.

[@greenender2508]

Well no they gave 20 non dbd players a week to prepare for a game in a 350k dollar tournament but instead of practicing or at least playing a game they show up not knowing shit and then get pissed and cry about not knowing shit

[@lothairdunn1151]

@@greenender2508 Still, great idea

[@no_less03]

@@greenender2508 , it's the same thing. Even if they practiced 1-2 hours every day for a week (which isn't going to happen since streamers can take a couple of days off or they can be busy), their experience was going to be shit. DBD should've hired a coach to make it fairer and easier for the players to understand certain things or... Well, yk, make the game better by adding things such as presets of perks that you can edit, especially for newbies, but yk: BHVR doing BHVR things.

[@everythingpony]

​@@greenender2508they had a week? What? 19 out of 20 didn't practice?

[@benignexistence4558]

@@everythingpony exactly. they just didnt care. tim, for example, exclusively plays Call of Duty. he didn't even recognize pyramid head, a character who is from Silent Hill. A game that I also haven't played or watched or anything of the sort but was still aware of long before I played DBD. $350 is chump change to these people, pennies dropped on the floor that it would be a waste to stop and pick up. look at shroud's fuckin house he is streaming in and tell me he has any sort of fuck to give about $350k.

[@BuckBlaziken]

The meta in dbd is so broken that it’s even confusing for the streamers who played this game. They aren’t yelling out of anger at the other players, they’re yelling out at how frustrating the balancing in this game is. This is the reason why dbd can never be considered “competitive” and the devs should accept that. Stop making dbd competitive and focus on making it fun again.

[@lovelysix6296]

They can only do this by adding less competitive modes because otherwise they will keep adding the same perks with different names for one game mode. This game cannot be competitive because it doesn’t make sense

[@doctorscalling9479]

They just started the game lmao no it's not balance issues it's it being an anti beginner friendly game. No I'm not talking about balancing but about its interface.

[@igoral3035]

@@doctorscalling9479 ah yes, the "interface" the biggest problem of dbd. Everything you just said was stupid

[@tamamonomae2740]

You do realize "fun" is what caused the game to end up how it is. "it's not fun being tunneled" - decisive strike "it's not fun being camped at hook" - borrowed time "It's not fun being hit." - Dead hard "It's not fun having no means to get up from being downed." - Unbreakable "It's not fun not having side objective in this game." - Boon perks And now it's so bad that killers are leaving the game. Because their is not fun for them.

[@ZeusTheMatti]

@@tamamonomae2740 So ture... Boons is so damn trash. Dead Hard the should fix so you can only use it ones. Unbreakable i see nothing wrong with... there are killer who slug like hell.

[@Deny399]

Did they really force comp rules on someone who asked "how do I unhook?".

[@stormbreak7003]

Judging from these clips and these clips alone. I say that the fault is on both sides. The people who organized (or who ever) the event giving the streamers (who don't know how to play DBD) a week to prep and giving them a rule list that should only be applied to experienced players and not newbies. On the streamer side. Most of them didn't even practice and didn't take it seriously and thought they could just wing it. What a surprise (Saying Sarcastic) the team that won are ones that actually practiced and didn't first played the game on the day of the event. On the side note. It's unfair that the streamers got access to the stranger things dlc even though no else can get it now. Also screw the guy and girl for cheating. I am never going to watch them. Also if that was their first time playing the game then cheating is kinda pointless since they wouldn't have a clue how the killers play and how to counter act them.

[@everythingpony]

They paid 100k to be couched how to win

[@everythingpony]

Also it's not unfair it was giving for free not paid, it's unfair stranger things codes are 200$

[@leonardosa_a]

I like how survivors are debating the amount of rules, trying to figure outr what perks do, talking about the FPS cap yada yada yada and the killer is just "🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷 UURRAAAAGGH 🐷🐷"

[@fuzzy3383]

💀💀

[@macavalli2619]

Why they called killers when all they do is hook "survivors" They should be called hokers

[@jamrockVEVO]

Average killer mindset

[@advcrim77]

DBD community summarized

[@ryanmcclure8868]

I remember having to go to the game’s ini files to manually turn off v-sync. What a great game.

[@solaceinouroblivion2262]

Hard to know what to think here, wasn't following this event but i'd reckon if they knew the participants didn't have experience that rules like "no duplicate perks" probably should have just been left out. Also wondering how far ahead they knew the game and ruleset so I can judge if it was their fault for doing no prep beforehand. with a game as unique as this you'd definitely want someone directing the basics of what to do and what's not allowed

[@carlthepumpkinman]

I was thinking this too--if there was 350k on the line, how could they not have prepared? But with what the Jake guy at the end was saying, they did have advanced notice, so like... Why did they literally not know how to play lol

[@solaceinouroblivion2262]

@@carlthepumpkinman they won't get backlash from their fans for putting 0 effort into making it run smoothly, so they don't really have to, very few people invest effort into things they don't need to. i can't speak for every participant but for many of them the prize money isn't actually a big deal it could be considered a bit disrespectful but honestly they'll probably just get content complaining about a game regardless so it's not their priority and you know what? dbd/bhvr almost deserve a little bit of the backlash, for constantly missing out on having this stuff be as easily accessible as possible (see otz comment) but at the same time, hot take the tournament rulesets were actually pretty tame and simple, at least the ones they have to bother with doing, were definitely able to be figured out if looked at beforehand (point system unimportant), play like a single hour of the game for goodness sake... not attempting to understand them can undermine the tournament and put future sponsorships at risk

[@carlthepumpkinman]

@@solaceinouroblivion2262 yeah I guess I'm used to watching speedrun streamers like SmallAnt challenge other streamers for fun and they both go through great lengths to prepare for a competition with nothing on the line. Plus, yeah, 350k is probably chump change to them in the grand scheme of things. But still, it seems like they spent literally 0 time preparing. Like the tutorial literally says very explicitly something like "you should only attempt to get yourself off the hook if it's the only option you have left" and that guy was like "oh I can attempt to unhook myself? Wait am I dying FASTER?!" I'm honestly jealous that they're in a position where they can have a tournament like this and feel they don't even need to run through the game's tutorial before participating lol

[@AlcinaDimitrescu]

This tournament was such a train wreck.

[@acrazysheepdog1555]

A year late but is anyone gonna mention how Tim and the other streamers already have 12 and a half THOUSAND Auric Cells? Jesus BHVR were really hoping for good press.

[@UgandalfTheBrown]

Imagine trying to make what is essentially an imbalanced partygame that isn't suited for competitive play in the first place into a high payout tournament for people, most of which never even played it before. Kinda sums up behavior in a nutshell

[@turningtides1007]

I love how they tried to use this as a form of advertising but ended up just showing the absolute worst stuff aboyt the game. this’ll keep any new/returning players away for sure.

[@macavalli2619]

5 mins "playing" this ""game"" would make anyone delete their hdd Dbd is barely a game... you got got

[@tehblightmuffin]

all it showed was a bunch of shitty twitch streamers fail and tilt: if anything that's a win

[@hyperboi4077]

Yeah it’s pathetic. They went out of their way to get into this tournament to bring new people to the game, but they accomplished the exact opposite. Most streamers had valid complaints about the comp rules which should’ve been included in the custom game modifiers as well as basic needs like a search bar. DBD took this feedback and has improved heavily (Thank God) but this just shows how out of touch they were and still are to an extent.

[@lyndetuvasa]

Dbd is super unique. To just jump in like that in a tournament is crazy. It’s sad to see how hard they were struggling. Not really sure why they even did comp rules when basically no one knew how to play.

[@spectrum4782]

Why have a tournament with people who have never played a game as unique as dead by daylight in the first place?

[@xXTheBl4ckC4tXx]

The interview at the end shows they had a week to prepare, they didn´t even play the game, that is their own fault

[@as0bi]

@@xXTheBl4ckC4tXx At the same time, the game isn’t interesting to them. Idk if what u said it’s true but it doesn’t matter because they ain’t interested in the game

[@xXTheBl4ckC4tXx]

@@as0bi at the end of this video the winner was shown and he even mentioned this

[@lyndetuvasa]

@@xXTheBl4ckC4tXx true they should of studied the game more, but this is a perfect example of how some new players to dbd feel. All the nuances dbd has can be very overwhelming especially without a friend who knows how to play.

[@FantasticFahn]

Despite a lot of the streamers struggling during this tournament, it was so cool to see the team Dowsey coached killing it and winning this round!

[@mherzog21]

He did a pro-gamer move ...

[@nathanhurst3192]

a guy who was coached vsed a bunch of first timers. If he didnt win he should have uninstalled everything he plays. It's literally the outcome everyone expected.

[@ArcticLuna007]

At 16:25 ish when he said 'he's literally ha- he literally bought discord and is hacking the server' what does that mean?

[@gatgatata6701]

Honestly I believe the problem here is in the streamers, They are going to play a tournament with thousands of people watching and dont even learn the basics of the game in order to make a decent show. Instead of that they start crying for an hour straight and say the game is trash without knowing anything about it.

[@oscar3153]

They were right though lol

[@coolspider295]

Trash streamers playing a trash game.

[@DOGEELLL]

The game is trash why would they play it

[@cassidy8307]

@@DOGEELLL I dunno, three hundred fifty thousand dollars?

[@TheCountryGoblin]

The fact they ban certain perks and items is mind blowing. They know there is soMething wrong with this stuff in the game and refuse to do anything about it. Instead they just ban them for tourneys, which is the Public face of the game

[@Imnotgivingmynametoamachine]

I mean, to be fair, if I knew in advance that there was a tournament I was playing in, I would familiarize myself, especially if I had never played it before.

[@MrCardz]

I don't know if the streamers were alerted to what games they would be playing, but I'm not sure.

[@xXTheBl4ckC4tXx]

@@MrCardz They were one week in advance, the player that won got dowsy as coach. Many were just really reaaaally lazy. Just ridicoulus

[@R1L6N]

@@xXTheBl4ckC4tXxi guess that amount of money isn't too much for them to even try and learn the game lol

[@kolbayada4938]

@@xXTheBl4ckC4tXx wow. Twitch streamers who's meta now is literally doint what Jinx did all those years ago are lazy? Never would've guessed.

[@floofyboi2520]

@@xXTheBl4ckC4tXx holy shit they had a week in advance? There's no excuse for them knowing literally nothing then. It's fine that they're not top 10% players but one of them didn't know deep wound would kill them if they didn't do anything about it-

[@Hoosje11]

350K? That’s absolutely ridiculous.

[@d1etpussy621]

#freekesha

[@LightWavess]

350k well spent

[@dexis2137]

15:52 “What is he doing?” “I don’t know what I’m doing chat”

[@egorpanteleev6804]

3:16 -you wanna walk faster? -sure! -then I'd do "self care" (Recommends a perk that gives you self healing action which is 50% slower, 32 seconds in total) (A completely ruining perk in the game that has nothing to do with walking)

[@Strongguy94]

"No camping" -- This was not a rule, nor ever a rule. Survivor Rulebook for a $350K Tournament. Someone help these people...

[@JudojugsVtuber]

no camping is a rule in some comp dbd tourneys. It's stupid and lame because they baby down survivors to a point camping is the go to strategy in comp. Comp doesnt wanna deal with anything "broken" so they just make both sides miserable instead

[@themightycrixus1131]

I doubt they even know what they mean by camping

[@SpiritUnknown_]

@@themightycrixus1131 exactly. It’s all stupid rules💀

[@Iron_Cutlass]

I think the hugest issue is that a lot of these players havent played the game before, so they have no understanding on how things work, things get even more complicated with the rules involved, and further more complicated with how little influence the hosts have upon the rules, so most people have no idea what they are doing or if they are breaking the rules. It's just a shitshow.

[@xXTheBl4ckC4tXx]

In the interview at the end it becomes obvious that they had a week to look at the game, but most didn´t even bother. That is their own fault.

[@almalone3282]

@@xXTheBl4ckC4tXx a week to look at one game or a week to look at all the games for the tournament? Cause if its the later that's a insane request!

[@hollowheaded9319]

@@xXTheBl4ckC4tXx No it's not, DBD has a steep learning curve for new players, they have a week to figure out how all the perks work both survivor and killer, how every killer works, where all the generators and totems on each and every map is, etc, etc. So no you're wrong, not their fault.

[@TheOnlyPOOCH]

@@hollowheaded9319 I agree, but they def dont need to know all of that stuff, that is highly exaggerated.

[@hollowheaded9319]

@@TheOnlyPOOCH They needed to know at least some of it though, did any of them look up a video on how to play the game? Even if they did Behavior just seemingly dumped a whole bunch of rules on them that would likely change the game up, that is if any of them even followed the rules. It was pretty dumb for Behavior to try to get a bunch of new players to play competitively with a bunch of rules and stipulations tacked, and it may also have been some of the players faults for not being at least a little bit prepared, again could've watched a KZbin video.

[@Moooniemoon]

They really need to make a competive mode in KYF so certain criterias are automatically activated when x perk or item is activated. This also shows we need a more in depth guide for new players.

[@tylerpinkston47]

"He's got Barbecue and Chili so he knows where we are." "What the hell did you just say?" Sums up DBD

[@RedDeadRussian]

So, is there a backstory as to why this tournament was even held in the first place? I feel like it's tournaments like these that will push potential new players away rather then encourage them to try the game, because their favorite streamer didn't like it. Props to Jake for actually putting some hours into the game, thou.

[@arandomperson401]

Just smells like BHVR wanting new players, and choosing to bring in a bunch of popular streamers with audiences unfamiliar to dead by daylight. I dont think this tournament failing was really BHVR's fault, but more the streamers fault as they refused to even TRY to play the game before the tourney

[@everythingpony]

​@@arandomperson401thank you, the winner of the Turney was the ONLY PERSON to play the game before the tournament day

[@starojunes]

It was so painful watching watching that one streamer attempting escape on hook over and over without knowing it was killing them. All bhv needs to do is add the percentage chance of escaping in the text on screen so new players can make better choices. Idk why they don't do this.

[@xXTheBl4ckC4tXx]

This dude had 1 week to prepare for the game, he did not even play once and got nobody to explain him the rules. His own fault.

[@gergovogronics850]

There are a lot of small things like this and each of them would only take at top 1 hour to implement.

[@sthepcorms6747]

He literally had a week to prepare and he didn't, you didn't take a week to know you're killing yourself on the hook

[@gergovogronics850]

@@srikzh That's why this is even more sad. I thought 350K was a lot of money for anyone. Well looks like, for these people it's not worth a few hours of practice.

[@rrrrr0_]

while I mostly agree with "the competitors should have prepared better" argument, I think the devs are about as much at fault as them. it is ironic how DbD is supposed to be a more casual game but is extremely inaccessible in reality at the same time. I firmly believe, even if the competitors had prepared beforehand, this wouldn't have looked all too different just because so much relies on experience (doing well in chases, doing gens, being altruistic when it calls, ...) and slowly getting to know gazillions of tidbits about various perks, status effects, etc

[@TheDarkurthe]

I can't call myself a gutter tier survivor anymore these guys take the crown

[@distortedriolu4618]

A group learned how to play

[@sadneopixel7396]

All of them knew they were gonna play this game why did no one practice beforehand? They didnt even read the rules lol if they want to win they could have just practiced. That team didnt do anything wrong they were just smart

[@Hangman1]

Dowsey, idiot himself, was teaching this guy's and now you see results

[@distortedriolu4618]

@@sadneopixel7396 love Dowsey buddy I agree everyone else did nothing to help there case. Just funny when something happens in the community our little gremlins name pops up xD

[@LovePrettyMoney]

I laughed when they said he was the coach... 😂

[@melanierose5941]

“Do you want to walk faster? “Sure!!” Then I’d choose self care.” LMAOO WHAT

[@daddyslothington]

"omg our killer is shroud" "its not an fps game hes drooling on his keyboard, literally no clue"

[@Promethe3u5]

I didn’t even know this was happening. I don’t think I ever want this to happen. DBD is trying so hard to make the game competitive, yet they don’t know how to advertise their own game right. They keep making the worst choices when it comes to this. I guarantee you that everyone watching this tournament that hasn’t played the game will NEVER want to. At this point it’s like they want the game to fail. They already lost most of their player base, this certainly didn’t help with that.

[@MaTtRoSiTy]

Shroud was such an influence back in his early PUBG days as that was my game, I left that game due to cheaters and DBD became my game. Seeing Shroud play this is both surreal and cringe as I know the new player experience is horrific and very confusing

[@red_revenant770]

Dbd is littered with cheaters too

[@JuanCarlos-dz4tz]

cringe? get off dbd 🤣🤣

[@FlowersOfAmity]

@Skelli gonna hold you up for that

[@JuanCarlos-dz4tz]

@Skelli dbd isn't the best but it's definitely not doing better these days too

[@JuanCarlos-dz4tz]

@MonsterM which ones?

[@malvark777]

The demogorgon codes make sense. what sucks is that they are going to be so wasted lmao

[@Darkfire-1306]

They did a pretty good job so far

[@rydersiebert7383]

considering everyone was a beginner, for the most part, everyone should of been given the same perks, survivors couldve gotten bond, kindred, lithe/ balanced landing, self care, and for killers something like, barbeque, infectious fright, pain resonance/ floods of rage, and ruin

[@nexialistmen2159]

9:16 I actually appreciate how this guy had a genuine good time doing that gen lol

[@-dreamless-]

I'm surprised the organizers didn't include a round of Civilization amongst the list of games. Pretty good job so far!

[@eggmin8967]

Yeah why did they put this game but not an rts or any other really complicated game like dbd

[@veecru]

“Hey! Let’s toss a bunch of big streamers into a game they have zero experience with, impose a bunch of rules when they don’t know the first thing about perk/item/addon rarities, and then offer the winner 350k! This’ll totally bring in a bunch of new players!”

[@xXTheBl4ckC4tXx]

They had 1 week to prepare and someone, that got Dowsy as a coach, won. Their own fault for not putting in any effort.

[@Taylor_mamaof2]

Wtf was at&t thinking 😆

[@adamdesimone2658]

Lol Tim killing himself on hook was the funniest shit ever 🤣

[@SrValRab]

"What is he doing???" Him at the same time: "I don't know what i'm doing chat"

[@curlamus4452]

Honestly the funniest part is that literally none of them knew what the word “lithe” was

[@xXTheBl4ckC4tXx]

So there were the smart ones who prepared a week for the game, and those that never played it even though they knew that it would be played.... That is their own fault.

[@sadneopixel7396]

Exactly lol idk why people are shitting on that team for preparing for the tournament?

[@jays903]

@@sadneopixel7396 that guy and his team are pathetic try hard though lol

[@sadneopixel7396]

@@jays903 all they did was practice for the tournament?? Literally what are you talking about. If everyone took their time and practiced the tournament would be so much fun and entertaining lol

[@jays903]

@@sadneopixel7396 no it wouldn't, that game is absolute trash, and like they say in the video. It has way too many stupid rules to make it "competitive". The guy is a loser tool try hard, like that last streamer says lol. All those streamers are losers at the end of the day though, who cares how much money they make off children.

[@ManlyOBeeferton]

@@jays903 " that guy and his team are pathetic try hard though lol" It was a $350K tourmanent genius.The smart ones were those who actually did some preparation.

[@Torm3ntoT3]

The fact that Shroud ask if is a search bar for the perks (like all of us) is literally pain that in 6 years we don't have one

[@damonekstrom4363]

Tournament rules for DBD have always been a messy affair, but this tournament also highlights just how hard it is to step into this game as a new player.

[@xXTheBl4ckC4tXx]

The player that got dowsy as a coach won this tournament, the players highlighted here were just the ones that had a week and did not care to even play the game before the tournament

[@dawsonrudis4642]

I’m honestly impressed that they got shroud to try a game that wasn’t a shooter

[@TigerKirby215]

*"Casual" play w/ players that have thousands of hours:* All perks allowed as many times as you want, any amount of items of any rarity allowed, offerings enabled, tryhard SWF on coms - players are upset because they go against tryhards abusing the game's poor balance *Tournament w/ players who have never played the game before:* One perk per Survivor, tons of perks randomly banned, tons of items banned, offerings disabled, Discord crashing with no way to ask to pause the game - players are upset because there's no simple way to balance the game with custom rules that are easy to understand within the client Truly the worst of both worlds lmao

[@Magicdfox]

love seeing people come into the game in its current state and go “who the fuck would want to play this?” Legitimately cannot understand how someone not already thousands of hours deep into it could find it playable.

[@BradyPartain]

I just started a month ago and have 100hrs already, it's very playable and easy to learn

[@iitstickletime]

@@BradyPartain Enjoy while you can! past the 500-1k mark with higher mmr it gets miserable, more competitive and toxic. If you're not careful, you might accidently win and get hundreds of angry comments on your profile. It's not nessesarily how easy it is to learn, the amount of perks, addons and learning each individual killer power just looks overwhelming, especially if you're loading in for the first time. If someone told me that they could see my current location by saying "they have barbeque and chilli" I think i'd just leave. It sounds like actual made-up garbage code language to them. I'm pretty sure they didn't even read the perk descriptions and just chose which icons they thought looked cool, which is why everyone lost but the guy who played for hours the week prior with a big name streamer coach. Everyone had a chance to learn the game- they had 5 rounds to do so. What was hard was the playability for new players, who have no idea what the actual hell barbeque has to do with their aura being revealed.

[@hyperboi4077]

@@iitstickletimeyeah the game is very overwhelming at first. There’s like 30 killers that all have unique powers you need to learn. You need to learn almost all of the perks (300+) in order to know their counters, best uses, and how good they are overall. Each year we gain more killers, more perks, and more maps. I wouldn’t even attempt to learn dbd today because it took me literal months to get the game knowledge down and I’m still learning new things constantly.

[@fuze4762]

@@hyperboi4077 isn't this a good thing,learning more about the game constantly?

[@YormanGina]

The funny thing is that I started playing DBD to take a break from OW2's craziness and it just feels way more chill lol

[@Machoblt]

This clearly shows dbd is not a competitive game

[@zeroremnant4477]

Never should and never will. There's just way too much rng in it like a Mario Party game.

[@danielmaster8776]

Only when the players have no clue what they're doing, like these guys.

[@UnusualTheMedicMain]

@@danielmaster8776 Yeah but it's not their fault, not only have they barely played the game, but it's so overcomplicated and convoluted unless you've been following it that it isn't tournament viable, I mean come on it's literally an *ASSYMETRICAL* Horror game.

[@danielmaster8776]

@@UnusualTheMedicMain Human ingenuity. If the game doesn't have a set win condition and has a lack of rules, the tournament organizers can make their own.

[@UnusualTheMedicMain]

@@danielmaster8776 they DID make rules, that's not the issue... The issue is that they decided to throw a popular game, seemingly only for views onto these streamers with little to know experience with the game, when there's a HUGE prize pool in this mix. You think that's fair to them? Forcing them to learn the rules of a completely foreign game on the fly for such a grand prize? No. That's inconsiderate and plain moronic. Plus if you think that Dead By Daylight doesn't have a "set win condition" you probably have no idea what you're talking about.

[@kendrickbrevard8215]

You know a game isn't meant to be competitive when you have to slap down a rulebook the size of a bible.

[@quarter_s]

the actual dbd comp scene will never see this kind of money

[@fenrirsulfr42]

So: New Survivors have no idea on what triggers the "explosion" noises and do noisy actions that alert the killer all the time New Survivors dont know what most status effects do, and cant react accordingly New Survivors mess up gens ALL THE TIME New Survivors cant escape from a chase, like never. New Killers cant find people New Killers dont know what their abilities look like to the survivors, so they kinda use them randomly New Killers dont know how to track survivors and wander around the map endlessly unless they do noisy stuff New Killers find chases extremely rewarding because they win them most of the time. New People have no idea on what perks do and there are too many, which is probably overwhelming to them. So this is BHVR strategy: Make killer extremely easy on the lowest ranks, get people hooked on playing killer making them buy dlcs for new killers and cosmetic stuff, once they reach high ranks they will just start playing surv because playing killer at high ranks is just torture. This means that there will be many low tier killers, few low tier survs, many high tier survs, few high tier killers. Ultimately this means that the game can not be effectively balanced because balancing it around high skill players will make it terrible for low skill players and the other way around because of how killer is easy and intuitive to use at low levels while survivor isnt, however the skill ceiling for survivor is much higher, making it way stronger at high tiers of gameplay....

[@Frredster]

Why on Earth they ever allowed anybody who didn't know how to play this game in a tournament, *especially* one that had $350k dollars on the line, is a mystery to me. That's just asking for bad publicity, especially with how many people were probably watching.

[@sarcasticdragon8673]

because the tourney was advertising an no point paying 1k streamers potentially 350k

[@everythingpony]

​@@sarcasticdragon8673they had a week to practice

[@JogVodka]

That's the gimmick for the whole tournament that everyone plays a game they never played before and practice for a week

[@Frredster]

@@JogVodka I heard these guys didn't even practice at all, they just booted up the game for the first time *during the tournament*.

[@virtualgambit577]

@@Frredsterit seems that way for a few of them, definitely. Some were asking about how to apply filters or take off the fps cap. If they had opened the game before that point, they would’ve already done it. One even said “I’ve never loaded up this game before”.

[@Vulgun]

Firstly, to answer your question Choy: BHVR giving out the codes is probably illegal, so unless someone can correct me on that, they really shouldn't be doing that. Secondly, this tournament is a prime example of two things--one is that the competitive scene for Dead by Daylight is currently a big joke with too many stringent rules and regulations to ever become a viable competitive game; the other is that this also solidifies the fact that this game is meant to be casual-friendly, yet it still lacks so many of the necessities that make it so, such as the many features that these top streamers were complaining about.

[@klenlapis6329]

Giving codes isn’t illegal since there was no money being paid to BHVR for the Stranger things IP

[@DatCheeseCake]

Codes still exist. You just can't purchase it. They also had over a week to prepare and all went in blind

[@greenender2508]

No it shows the streamers didn’t give a shit about the game that they had a week to prepare for in a 350k tournament and went in with no knowledge but then get pissed about the fact they don’t know shit

[@no_less03]

@@greenender2508 , you again? Holy shit

[@everythingpony]

​@@no_less03you again? Holy shit

[@omgdisfunny4852]

They used comp rules to keep them from using perks that they don't know how to use, or that they even existed

[@xXTheBl4ckC4tXx]

They had 1 week to prepare, the person that got dowsy as coach, won. This just shows the people that did not give any effort at all

[@omgdisfunny4852]

@@xXTheBl4ckC4tXx it wasn't a serious tournament, also notice how the person who got a coach wasn't a full time streamer. Its as if he has free time to get coached and the others didn't

[@xXTheBl4ckC4tXx]

@@omgdisfunny4852 But at least play the game to understand the rules. You can´t be mad at a game for not even putting the most basic effort in. Not every game is Call of Duty Deathmatch

[@xXTheBl4ckC4tXx]

@@omgdisfunny4852 You can also stream getting coached, so taking 2 hours is not much to ask. You don´t have to be good, but you should understand the basic rules of the game. Moreover one person could have just prepared the perks for everyone. Basic organisation. Instead of just throw people into a complex raid of any MMO without having ever played the game

[@omgdisfunny4852]

@@xXTheBl4ckC4tXx they're streamers. They are paid to be over the top and be entertaining. Them staring at the screen doing nothing isn't entertaining. Also the perks all at once is extremely overwhelming. You forget that perks also change how you actually play a match, they don't know how to play without them

[@ScrapComputer]

I watch dbd content but don't play the game. Must have watched 60 plus hours or content over this last year. Even my jaw dropped at that fking perk list. I played a single game on my friends computer and just couldn't get get over the overwhelmed feeling. This is coming a league of legends scumbag so that's saying a lot.

[@benignexistence4558]

There's a lot of missing context. They are playing on a custom match with every perk free to use at max level. Your regular beginner isn't gonna be playing customs. They are going to have a couple characters to pick from, each with just a few perks. Those perks because teachable when they level up the character/prestige them, but that is a slow build over time. By the time your list actually looks how it looked to them, you've personally used them all many times before and are very familiar with every single one. This was many of these streamer's first time playing (which is beyond idiotic, as they were given a week to prepare and showed absolutely zero professional courtesy in actually preparing for this expensive event) and it being a tournament, they played in a custom so they see every perk and they're all the same color too which makes them all kinda blend together and seem overwhelming. The 2 solutions would be (1) The streamers adequately preparing for such an event beforehand given how much money is involved or (2) choosing streamers that are already familiar with the game, or are willing to learn how it is played with the week that they are given. Neither of those 2 things happened, and here we are.

[@MysteryManGaming]

“You want to walk faster?” Shroud- “yes” “Then you should use self care” WHAT?

[@BoostedComposer]

"I think he just shot me, bro" 😂😂 8:39