Doom Patrol 2x09 HD "The first time Jane becomes primary" HBOmax - DC Universe

[@fauzirahimpohan3130]

Among the characters, Jane's story line itself deserves to has its own series / full movie.

[@whatok3273]

Agreed, I wouldn't mind an episode that takes place in the Underground agaon, and the life of Jane before the Doom Patrol

[@aaronhoosiershrm-cpphr8362]

Utterly agree, really like her the best. Mostly because the actor is a powerhouse.

[@____-gy5mq]

You kind of have it. It's called legion.

[@damianstarks3338]

No shit you said it here.

[@damianstarks3338]

bananaman that show is over.

[@LeVidocq]

Jane is like the midpoint between Hammerhead and Miranda. Tough and defensive but still able to engage with people normally.

[@Locamabz]

What Jane said is absolutely true. In this "liberated" society, be careful not to fall into a trap of doing things that u think is your choice while you're lowkey controlled by someone else. Be yourself but be aware...

[@ICgay4]

Agreed, I was like yuss gurl say it loud. But also come back and help Dorothy haha.

[@kingMadnus]

Yeah because the lady with 64 personalities has it all figured out. she would even try to imply that and never consider that maybe there are women there that are actually into that sort of thing.

[@sindelscat9336]

@@kingMadnus or the roles being reversed.

[@EmptyMan000]

No, Be yourself AND Be aware. Make your own decisions but know where to draw the line and not cave into peer pressure and never forget the consequences of your actions.

[@SilverRose45]

so, capitalism

[@izzieb.2926]

I know this is off topic, but can we all just appreciate how beautiful miranda's actress is?

[@engimo94]

10/10

[@Juanmaligno]

She is very beautiful

[@izzieb.2926]

@@NwtXAtone we're allowed to acknowledge that someone's pretty without there being any sexual motivation.

[@thenbhdenthusiast3699]

TheNewt Storm shut up 😃❤️

[@nestornicolashuertaparra9640]

@@izzieb.2926 Diane Guerrero

[@adamgrunther1367]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Diane Guerrero deserves an Emmy for this show.

[@Idontexisthihi001]

It’s amazing how she can play so many personalities and make them feel different from each other

[@magicunicorn1494]

miranda was more sweet and wanted kay to move forward even though she knows that it is wrong . while jane is more upfront and will do anything to protect kay from experiencing the same trauma her dad and miranda did

[@DgardsGaming]

new miranda is really Daddy presona, how ever that works (super weird), also after that scene with Jane creation. man Upfront girls, i love it XD

[@fauzirahimpohan3130]

Now this makes sense why Jane has no memory about the teddy bear that Kay wants.

[@LolixBelle]

is a sheep but yes

[@geekylad8400]

She was created during Miranda's fall?

[@Ziaotic]

@@geekylad8400 she was created right after Miranda died.

[@fauzirahimpohan3130]

@@geekylad8400 since every personality exists for a reason and i guess Jane's is to be the next primary

[@JackErica19]

@@LolixBelle *a lamb

[@dammit3048]

I find both funny and sad that Jane was born from Miranda's mistake and doesn't even remember it. And after seeing this flashback I can understand a lot of Jane's hate, especially towards men now. She was created as a means to prevent the main body from being attached to another Male romantically again so they wouldn't be hurt. Baby doll was innocent love and scarlett harlett is just Incredibly lustful, but miranda jeopardized everything. Of course it's not her fault the man she loved suddenly became a piece of shit and making it seem it's her fault for not fitting in, but they were already in a position where they just couldn't have a normal life. Even before this moment, you can tell she was having internal debates with everyone for the sake of her own selfish desires which were probably just trying to help Kate have a normal future, but she still pushed it herself. And if I'm understanding this correctly, this was way before her powers started coming in so she's just a normal woman

[@lucasgray1492]

I'm pretty sure it was before her powers. Because I'm pretty sure Jane was the one who was primary when she was injected and experimented on. I always wondered how Jane became primary. I feel bad for all of them including Miranda. She thought she was healing them, it wasn't her fault that the man she was falling for turned into an asshole. It wasn't her fault he became awful. She deserved better than him way better.

[@thefvguy5648]

No, Jane was the first personality to be born, remember that. This was shown in the first season. This was just the moment she became the primary personality.

[@necro_nancy]

@@thefvguy5648 You're mistaken. Miranda was seemingly the first to be created. Jane was only created after the suicide (if you can call it that) of Miranda, because Kay needed a new primary; which is why Jane doesn't have memories of their early life.

[@thefvguy5648]

@darthsock86 No you are the one mistaken, if you remember in the episode of season 1, Jane Patrol, we see the moment Jane was seemingly created. The day Kay’s father took her away from finishing her puzzle piece. It was here where we discovered that Jane isn’t the original personality and also the fact that she was created by Jane to take her place in suffering. This explains Jane is so afraid of Kay’s father in the first place. Sure, the other personalities might be afraid of him too, but Jane seems to be the one that’s extremely afraid of him. Also, no, Miranda was not the first personality, remember the exorcism flashback scene, we see Kay jumping from different personalities before we see the first supposed manifestation of Miranda, so she’s definitely NOT the first personality.

[@alexisvargasm]

you really needed to watch that episode to understand that? Did you watch the pilot? They've literally shown over and over that this is the story of an abused girl who creates these personalities to protect herself. Pretty much what every person who has gone through that, do at some point. And I think it's completely irrelevant who came first, Jane or Miranda. They both represent really different times and aspects of the girl's life, and the needs and processes she thought she was ready to go through. What's important here is that they're exploring the side of abuse when the victims internalize the message and the vision of themselves that the abuser imposed, and the war against that begins. Because, in the end, Jane was right. That was never about "love", whatever that is, it was about control and ego.

[@cmmiestcat]

For those questioning about why she didn't use her powers here: She wasn't experimented on yet.. Hence why there weren't any personality change effect.

[@Bella-bj8qm]

BTS ARMY IS SHIT i thought jane didnt have any powers?

[@cmmiestcat]

@@Bella-bj8qm Jane *after the experimentation* did get her power but she didn't know what it is till recently (in the comic book) and it has been confirmed that Jane has the ability to heal. Which probably explain why she stayed the same age throughout the time and why she didn't die in the well and instead _resurrected_ I'm guessing the show took the recent discovery from the comic and implemented it in the well scene.

[@MiguelGonzalez-du8de]

I think the inmortality thing has to do more with the fact that personalities do not age. Niles set all the characters' accidents so with Jane he just searched for a girl with multiple personality dissorder and injected her with the meta gene. Kay can't age because right now she's just another personality of the bunch, so unless all personalities die and Kay becomes her own person, she's going to be inmortal for a long time.

[@oyin7937]

@Black Canary I'm not trying to be annoying or anything but didn't Hammerhead talk directly to Kay and try to catch her when she ran off. This was when Jane had drugged all the other personal and herself and felt demotivated to do anything.

[@cmmiestcat]

@Black Canary Why are you hypothesising though?? In the comic book Jane's ability is to heal. It's already canon. No need to create your own theory. Unless the TV show decided to change her power which I highly doubt.

[@renji90998]

I understand that Miranda screwed up, but kinda blame the other personas. When she really needed them, they abandoned her. Which lead to her killing herself, and gave Daddy the opportunity to take over. Being primary really sucks. Because it's not just the girl they take care of, but all them as well. Jane most of the time has to clean up whatever the others have done. Jane and Miranda carried all the responsibility. Of course they had a breaking point. They should all work together. They may be different personalities, but they are still an extension of Kay. Different pieces of a puzzle. Perhaps the only way Jane can move forward is to forgive herself. Not just her but all the others.

[@mattbonacci3941]

Agreed. She was manipulated into doing something she didn’t want to do because she wanted to be happy with this guy

[@obikim11]

I said a similar comment in a previous Doom Patrol vid, but it's Primary, and then personas. There's no vice-primary, assistant primary, or council intermediary. We saw this ish happen to Jane when she fucked up, and now we've been shone a light on the *EXACT* same thing happening to Miranda in the past. Jane and Miranda had a hundred different people yelling them what they wanted, but they never had anyone _they_ could turn to. They were expected to just know and do without input from anyone else. I kinda wish the other personalities het called out and there's actual change.

[@squirlywirl]

Yes! Thank you! The other personas don't understand that being primary is so much work. Jane and Miranda got the brunt of every horrible thing that happens to the body. The other personas exist for one thing only and can't function beyond that, as evidence of the hangman's daughter nearly breaking down when cliff asked her what she would do for shelter etc. They'll be helpless without a proper primary.

[@PeacePham1991]

It's always the people that didn't do anything that complain about the ones that actually put their hands on

[@Auron1Roxas2]

Miranda caused them all to suffer trauma again, so they didn't really "abandon" her. Miranda also didn't just simple "screw up", she royally fucked up. She did what she thought was best and not what was best for the them or for Kay.

[@amberstrickler9132]

This scene haunts me because something similar happened to me and I ended up getting out of there but I wish I had the words Jane had here because she captured the raw essence of what I was feeling in that situation- the rage in response to the violation, manipulation and gaslighting. 👌Perfect!!

[@JabamiLain]

I'm sorry you experienced this.

[@elenas.m.canonico2919]

I'm sorry for what you experienced.

[@samiai8905]

I'm sorry you experienced this

[@tmaziriri]

Me: LOL. Doom Patrol is mad fun. No way it can get weirder. Doom Patrol: How about Cliff fights Jesus? Me: Oooooooooooooooooooh!!!!!!!!!!

[@DgardsGaming]

Me: That wasn't even weirdest part, also Rita imaginary friend was Paper thin. sorry for pun but i couldn't resist

[@PeacePham1991]

@@DgardsGaming What was the pun? Sorry, I really didn't get it lol

[@GuyWithChainsaw]

Honestly The Sex Man episode still takes the cake in my opinion

[@ABookNerd]

Crazy Jane keeping it real. I love it.

[@shayc2977]

I hate when exceptionally great shows like these are way more underrated than they should be. A true shame.

[@mattbonacci3941]

I wish instead of blaming Miranda the other alters had been more understanding to the fact that she was pressured into this.

[@DrowsyKodi]

It doesn’t matter if she was pressured or not she made Kay relive the trauma and there for hurting all of them

[@mattbonacci3941]

CodyZooom I get that. And I get that what happened made them all relive trauma, Miranda included. But pressured sex is still rape and it’s sad to see her feel so guilty to the point that she jumped into the well.

[@chalice9004]

@@mattbonacci3941 As she should 💅😌

[@mattbonacci3941]

Chalice idk what you’re responding to but I hope you’re not saying Miranda should feel guilty about being raped and deserved jumping into the well cause that’s pretty fucked up

[@parkerboy795]

@@mattbonacci3941 Seriously. The alters really need to work on empathy. They put Miranda and Jane through hell because they lack it.

[@alexreign3437]

Who heard the puzzle piece noise when the Fake Miranda (Daddy) came out of the well in episode 6.

[@azathothbaudelaire1642]

I didn't. Gonna have to go back

[@justindixon1586]

The song is flamin groves by whiskey woman in case anyone didn’t know

[@nicolebrown5987]

I love this show!!! Why Diane Guerrero hasn't been nominated for a golden globe or emmy is beyond me. Sad it ended after 9 episodes. I can't wait until season 3!!!

[@casemeistamemecast1045]

This scene was one of the best of the entire season

[@alexisvargasm]

and Diane's monologue in the end. It makes me really sad when they say the only stars of the show are Brendan or Alan or Timothy. Diane and April have delivered some of the best performances in the entire show.

[@gabbidurham]

The scene of Miranda and the girl’s husband was extremely hard to watch

[@katakata9749]

so all this time the ''healed'' miranda wasnt miranda but her ''dad''?

[@user-Abdsz]

Yes

[@obikim11]

Likely a final obstacle for Kay to face in order to truly heal.

[@ryanbarefoot7194]

I’m going off tbe idea that its a new persona born as a kind of fusion of miranda and daddy. Born from both the after shocks of Jane standing up to daddy and the underground being invaded by candlemaker.

[@katakata9749]

@Black Canary the only one that wants to hurt Kay is Daddy, other alters are there to protect Kay.

[@katakata9749]

@Black Canary really? What's her power? Why would she want to hurt Kay now?

[@depressedsquidward7539]

Rip Real Miranda. :(

[@johnypanta6208]

This version of Miranda is more relatable. The "White Dress" Miranda was super creepy from the start. I know that was their intention, with the foreshadowing of her actually being "Daddy" and everything, but still... I hope to see more of THIS version of Miranda.

[@yurirosa2408]

That version of Miranda is dead. Jane pulled her out from underneath the dirt and she was rotten.

[@johnypanta6208]

@@yurirosa2408 Yeah I know. I saw the episode. I meant in flashbacks

[@L2L732]

Did anyone else notice in 0:20 that Scarlet Harlot was putting out her cigarette in her own skin?.....

[@daddybendover69]

I listen to the Doom Patrol Radio podcast and they mention that in the books the first time she manifests she is smoking and puts out the cigarette on her leg so its possible that this was when Scarlet Harlot first manifested, shes also sitting on the train alone so I think that could be the implication.

[@necro_nancy]

@@daddybendover69 It would make sense if this is when Scarlet first manifested in the show's continuity as she was likely created in response to what to the others was a traumatising sexual situation that none of the other alters could deal with.

[@antony3846]

@@daddybendover69 where and how can I listen to this Doom patrol podcast

[@daddybendover69]

@@antony3846 I listen on the castbox app and just search up doom patrol, the one i talked about was from Too Old Media and they're just two guys who read the books and likes comics in general. There should be some others you could try as well in the search results but that's the specific one.

[@nxowl]

Like in the comics

[@Tre.Anthony2025]

This and Episode 9 from S1 have to be the most grounded episodes of the entire series. I got very uncomfortable when Miranda started remembering her father in such a disturbing way. Although it was no way near as bad as Titans S1 ending, I just wish we’ve seen the final episode because I feel this ended way to abruptly. I can tell they were maybe going to end on an even more massive cliffhanger, similar to the event that happened in the comics.

[@viktortadic6169]

If i remember correctly what I read they were close to finishing episode 10 but couldn't because of COVID-19

[@Tre.Anthony2025]

VT Yeah which is sad, I think they were going to have their umbrella academy, Avengers Endgame end of the world moment and it was going lead into a darker season forcing them to properly be heroes.

[@Idontexisthihi001]

@@viktortadic6169 I always felt like season 2 should have ended with the 1st episode of season 3

[@TheMeanMongoose]

When the age of hippies came to an end And Punk was born

[@Aureilia]

This whole scene gives me flashbacks to when Karen takes over during season 1 and Hammerhead breaks through at one point to threaten/warn Rita about how violent she'll get if anything sexual happens Knowing that they've been through something pretty similar before adds a lot more to that whole episode for me D:

[@mikadocious]

this performance from Jane gave me chills! that exit was so powerful and fabulous!!

[@bencastillojr.2217]

And her name is "Jane." Crazy Jane!

[@Seogumichan]

Love that part.

[@DgardsGaming]

Crazy Jane, i love it. XD

[@Clxoxo4502]

Poor Miranda I think she’s the victim here tbh . He manipulated her and and pressured her he’s a peice of shit! I think the others were hard on her because she is still a victim but the same time suppose I get that what happens to her happens to them as well.its just so sad that she jumped into the well. 🙁

[@maturemason4417]

How pretty Polly going to laugh when she haven't even been up there

[@L2L732]

Near as I could tell, all the personalities were able to sense what happened.... So yeah it, sorta disturbed her....

[@Meltorange]

I thought she was up there? When she started to laugh during and said "What is this?" I thought it was Polly. And yes, Jane said she'd never seen Polly up there, but it seems she was "born" moments after Polly came out.

[@animator4287]

@@Meltorange Pardon me, what is Polly's use?

[@Meltorange]

​@@animator4287 We don't know for sure, we can only speculate for now. Personally, she seems to be a character out of a horror film or folk story Kay might've heard as a child. Perhaps she sympathized with this "Polly" character (a young woman who seems to have been brutalized judging by the scars on her eyes) so she created an alter for her. I'm very curious to see what her power is.

[@davindelaney4470]

@@Meltorange pretty Polly can see dead ppl

[@syahrulhafidz7881]

This scene scared the shit out of me especially when she started crying.

[@logologo732]

Crazy Jane needs her own series. I'd like to see all the personalities together and their powers.

[@watcherx2592]

That "you were supposed to keep us safe "+ the door slam in her face is basically the equivalent of KYS , which she did..

[@chrisp.9385]

Sad fact: there was supposed to be an Episode 10 (finale) but they didn't have time to film it bc of corona i think

[@comicfan5893]

Ye

[@EthalaRide]

I know one of the actors in this scene and did a doubletake like "oh! uh... hey, man. Wasn't expecting to see you here. okay, lol. _Glad to know you're working!"_ seriously though, Doom Patrol is an AWESOME show and this scene is So good.

[@johnypanta6208]

I wonder if Jane manifested because Miranda killed herself or she already existed and surfaced as primary because the position of primary suddenly was free? Someone has to drive the body right?

[@comicfan5893]

Yea cause without anyone up there she'll be like a scarecrow. Cant move breathe talk or react except stare or faint

[@melonlord2851]

Now that I think of it, Jane was born because the original "Primary" died. The other alters have their own jobs, they can't take Primary, thus Jane. What about Lucy, Scarlet, B. Doll, and Katy? Shouldn't they have been replaced or does Kay just consider them minor personalities from then on?

[@carwyn2871]

I feel sorry for the character miranda. She is a good character.

[@fauzirahimpohan3130]

Yes but she's too naive so when she thrown herself into the well, there is Jane who take over the body and is more agresive and has "common sense" compared to other personalities.

[@danecarrington4326]

Who is that Miranda that the Secretary talks to, the real one or the Daddy persona?

[@shiftingmind7326]

This is the real Miranda just seconds before she jumped into the well and killed herself.

[@savvasyolo4712]

the real one its the real one until she falls into the well

[@dann_mrtins]

Unfortunately that one wasn't Miranda. The real one is dead.

[@chochtopf8682]

@@dann_mrtins What? Of course, that's Miranda. This is the story of how she messed up and killed herself out of guilt. The Miranda that comes out of the well at Baby doll's funeral is the daddy persona.

[@dann_mrtins]

@@chochtopf8682 I know, I just misundertood the question.

[@sevyntennyson4181]

D.I.D is soooo well described/envisioned and portrayed in this! Havnt seen anything this great since United States of Tara/Split

[@quinnsinclair7028]

Split while an excellent performance is an extremely bad portrayal of DID.

[@tabuuharruu1425]

Without context, i thought this about something else. I thought this is about a girl getting bullied into something. So glad i watched the show. I am so sorry miranda went through that...

[@L2L732]

i really want to know the song of 0:38..... it sound so powerful.....

[@nickz2147]

Its called whiskey woman by the flamin groovies.

[@UmBelenense]

3:28 well, a gangbang party and no one knows what is love She is right about that

[@bbria28]

Jane said fuck all of this ✌🏾

[@cosmicfive7860]

*" You just wanted to try some bussi "* Omg tea Periodt

[@tieslansinkrotgerink9168]

One thing I find odd is why did everyone have faith in miranda when she got back from the well, seeing she f-ed up so hard when she was primary first, why did they trust her that easy again?

[@athousandandonenights11]

Cause it was easier to just trust her. Jane was a mess at the beginning of the season constantly doing drugs. They were looking for a new primary that would only focus on protecting Kay rather than forming friendships. Jane was getting too close to the rest of DP. There were a couple of the personalities who went up and took over primary but they realized how hard it was and went back down. When Miranda showed up it seemed that she was ready to put Kay first and deal with all the primary responsibilities.

[@alexisvargasm]

maybe because, usually, people don't come back all renewed and shiny after something so traumatic. I think it was natural for the other personalities to find some hope into that. After all, Jane's arc is all about looking for normalcy.

[@tieslansinkrotgerink9168]

Venera Seiti Nonaj sure but still. I mean miranda got all of them raped thats fucked up. If I were to choose between trusting a drug addict and a selfish personality I’d send someone else up there or make a new primary?

[@tieslansinkrotgerink9168]

Alexis Vargas M. Janes arc is all about normalcy? I mean I’m not against you but could you explain why you think that because to me all she still is is a scared person who doesn’t want to fade in the shadow of a better person for the job.

[@athousandandonenights11]

ties Laro Miranda didn’t get them raped, she and the others got raped. She was just looking to live a normal life, be happy, she didn’t actively seek a dangerous situation to put them in. Most of the personas have a specific role, they wouldn’t do well as a primary. Jane and Miranda seem to be two of the only ones who have more well rounded personalities and can deal with the outside world. They did try to send some others above and it just didn’t work. This Miranda seemed to be better and less easily manipulated then before. Since none of them have been at the bottom of the well and didn’t know what to expect they thought she had just changed for the better.

[@joslyntorres8691]

Whiskey Woman is such a great song thematically and expressively.

[@thatcatfromthegermanad8711]

The actor of the guy on Jane's left or our right at 2:30 is also a singer (KevinGlen)

[@darkgoddarkseid2824]

Best ep of entire show!

[@RoweMan2000]

Jane is one of my favorite superwomans

[@alexeiromanov9420]

that was so epic like gooo girlll also i love that Doom Patrol show is watching only by chosen people thanks geez

[@PurpledaisyShasta]

I hate when guys use the word crazy on their girlfriends to justify their abusive behaviour towards them.

[@razofdead]

At least most times you are correct, but there has to be 5% of times the crazy part was correct.

[@thehub8372]

This felt more like the mid climax of the season than the season finale

[@andydandy4099]

Yeah because covid happened

[@antony3846]

Finnaly I always wanted to see how Jane came into being!!!

[@GaryTurbo]

(4:20) I need to check Mr Skin

[@Noirthebaee]

Aww I felt bad

[@CyberRacer]

Fking corona gave us a “CLIFF” hangar

[@kingcrgp]

I think a new primary can only surface when the old one dies or gives up.

[@ramziiiii]

That speech tho 👏 This is for the ones that still don't understand the term freedom and self values. That kind of thing made the US one of the highest countries with STDs cases in the world!

[@katewelch79]

Just v finished this episode! Told my husband that Jane's story line is the best!!!

[@rb4108]

4:15 and my name is Jane.

[@aprilhippie8752]

Fun fact this isn’t how Miranda killed herself in the comics. It was much much darker

[@lucas-ry1ne]

How ot was? I dont care about spoilers

[@aprilhippie8752]

V R Well it’s not pleasant to repeat but in the comics when Miranda was still Primary she was sexually assaulted (aka the R word)at church and because of that and the trauma Kay faced as a child she threw herself into the well thus killing herself and that’s when Jane took over as primary

[@lebonheur10100]

@@aprilhippie8752 I have a question. In the comics, is Jane born because Miranda killed herself or was she "there" already and took over as primary ? Tnx :)

[@aprilhippie8752]

@@lebonheur10100 Yes it would appear Jane was only created when Miranda died at least that’s what the books seem to hint at. As after Miranda’s death there’s appears to be a time jump where we find her in a mental institution referring to herself as Jane so we can only assume that without a personality she went insane and was institutionalized then while in the institution Jane was created.

[@lebonheur10100]

@@aprilhippie8752 tnx ❤️

[@Actionfan19]

Season 3 better address the 20ft puzzle golem in the room if you all know what I mean.

[@Frontdesk_tragedy]

DISCLAIMER * I haven't read any comics I feel like Jane isn't so much a "persona" but a grown Kay, seeing as she looks like the host body whereas Miranda was African American and all the other personas look unrelated. Even the actress that plays Kay looks like a younger Jane. Like Kay is the persona of trauma and not really the host? I know im probably waawayyyy off but as someone just watching the show

[@meumundosecreto7694]

Maybe they chose Kay actress because she resembled Jane actress.

[@jordanfoa9288]

true but then i would ask why is crazy 8, the driver Jane also? so thats where i think you're wrong

[@Frontdesk_tragedy]

@@jordanfoa9288 never said i was right, in fact i put a disclaimer that i have no authority on any of this

[@jordanfoa9288]

Nicholas Chavez nah you could be right, I just put that to combat , I don’t know either

[@speedynvt]

Hey so uhh anybody know where I can find the scene that happened before this?

[@brooklynnschmidt2535]

Damn I saw the cover and I thought this was gonna be Jane the virgin

[@WardNightstone]

the secretary is the WORST

[@btqy]

Best delivery ever.

[@killerfrost1753]

What's the name of the soundtrack in 4:07

[@cesarito1232]

QUEEEEE !!! So the Miranda was not the Miranda so it is a Skrull✌️😋

[@agente5-sigma20]

It’s Daddy, actually

[@Auron1Roxas2]

No it's not some shitty marvel creation, it's the daddy personality.

[@9456789ronnye]

Scarlet have my full attention in that scene put butterflies in my stomach then hammer head pulled up and ruined it

[@_Liaros]

I just noticed that Scarlet Harlot is putting the cigarette out on her leg. Or I'm mistaken?

[@huskquitto6934]

I thought Miranda jumped into the well after the church incident? I haven’t read the comics, can anyone explain to me?

[@DCUniverseClips]

in the comics she throws herself into the well for an incident in a church, but in the series they changed that

[@ДаниялДандамаев-и7ц]

@@DCUniverseClips what exactly happened in the church???

[@cmmiestcat]

@@ДаниялДандамаев-и7ц She was gang raped in the church... But they had to change that for the obvious reason to forced group orgy.

[@tophergerkey]

@@cmmiestcat No, it was not a gang. It was one guy.

[@cmmiestcat]

@@tophergerkey Oh, sorry, my mistake! I read from different sources which stated she was gang rape. 😅 Ignore my answer then eheh

[@theonlymike23]

2:15

[@laswanlewwis]

Crazy Jane is awesome I love her very much.

[@antony3846]

Wait. Did Miranda s husband. Did not know of her personalities?

[@JabamiLain]

How do you think your boyfriend/girlfriend would react if he/she knew you were a person with multiple personalities that you had no control over ?

[@dreamsapphire5556]

Give her some air you guys Yeah some musty af air

[@cosmicfive7860]

Some nasty sweaty hot air ew

[@Jolora1257]

I’m confused to why some of the alters look like primary but most do not

[@thequentsrogs3359]

This how crazy Jane came out which is obvious

[@AyeshaKhan-uh2gz]

Queen spilled

[@thebuckrogers22]

is this considered rape? even though miranda didnt want to cheat, she went along with it. even though kay is the host body, miranda is the main primary voice. this was altered from the comics slightly but just like in the comics, this sex act triggered bad memories of when kay was molested and it caused the other personalities to come out. one personality seemed to enjoy it and some of the others didnt. i wonder if this is rape cuz does it really matter what the other personalities want, if miranda is the main primary in charge? so im just confused.

[@hexbug9737]

The personalities that came out were 1.Miranda 2.Pretty Polly -the laughing 3.Penny Farthing -the stuttering 4.Scarlet Harlot -the one that was enjoying it 5.Hammerhead -told the guy to get off her 6.Hammerhead or Miranda -the one that started to walk away before fainting 7. Crazy Jane

[@daddybendover69]

I think it wouldn't be considered "rape" but it was for sure sexual coercion which is still really bad. He had planned ahead put her in a situation that was incredibly hard to say no to and then criticized her when she felt uncomfortable. Consent isn't just not saying no its an emphatic and enthusiastic yes or its a no over all.

[@daddybendover69]

@@MrWhiskeycricket I think you're ignoring some facts here. Most rapists dont even get convicted so the idea of men being accused of rape ruining their lives is usually 1. not a false claim of rape and 2. usually does nothing to impact their futures. So the argument of being scared of that future isn't as worrying as one might assume. Essentially you saying all bad sexual encounters could be prosecuted as rape is not supported by past evidence and is also a slippery slope logical fallacy. Secondly, men may never be in a situation where a woman says no and he ignores her. However, there is studies that have asked women about committing to sex acts they fully felt uncomfortable with and wanted to say no to. The fact of the matter is women have to worry about mens reactions and their propensity for sexual and physical assault of women. We as men have to ask ourselves if we have ever been in a situation where a woman may have felt scared or uncomfortable saying no and as the gender with the most history of violence we should take preemptive action to make sure our encounters are consensual to the max. This may have not been rape but it was sexual assault (lets forget that the rape vs sexual assault distinction was established to have men actually convicted of a crime because almost no courts were giving out rape charges during the womens rights movements of the 60s and 70s. Rape charges started out as a property crime i.e. it was a crime to assault the property of the father or husband). Lastly, saying no means no and yes means yes is ignoring that women can retract consent at any time and ignoring that no didnt always mean no. It was legal for men to rape their wives. The definition and the complexities of sexual violence are expanding and mutable and to make such a rigid statement makes me question the intentions of the person. You shouldn't have an issue with doing your best to make sure women and anyone isn't being traumatized during sex.

[@daddybendover69]

@@MrWhiskeycricket dude I'm not saying its rape but it is sexual coercion which is a form of assault. And yes no one is able to give consent while drunk but you judge that on your own. If you think you were coerced into sex then yeah you're a victim of sexual violence my guy. Sex violence does not start and stop at forceable penetration. Yeah she made the decision but she was manipulated into it so to say shes an adult get over it is discrediting thousands of people who have trauma from this type of sexual violence and maybe your experiences never scarred you but that's not the case for others and your personal opinion doesnt change the fact that sexual violence is much larger than your definition.

[@daddybendover69]

@@MrWhiskeycricket no dude I'm saying no one is able to give consent when drunk. The issue lies in a pervasive rape culture that basically indoctrinates men to see sex as dominating women when it's not. I'm not infantilizing the women because no one can give consent when drunk. If you have sex when drunk and consider it consensual then I'm happy for you that it didnt affect you but theres tons of men and women who have been rape because they were drunk. If someone was roofied or sedated at a hospital or even just high on heroin then you wouldn't consider them able to consent, so why do you think alcohol is all that different? Unless you plan to or have taken advantage of a drunk person then I really dont see the problem here. NO ONE is able to give consent while drunk, the only reason men never admit that a sexual encounter was traumatizing is because of toxic masculinity and everyone seeing it as weak when men dont want sex. That's the whole reason why Male rape victims usually dont report. So the issue doesnt stem from infantilizing women (which is an issue in the porn industry and such and that is a valid conversation to have) but to say that someone who is in an impaired state has the ability to give consent doesnt make sense. I'm not talking about having 1 beer I'm talking drunk and anyone who has sex like that then I hope it doesnt scar you but theres so many people who it does. People who have coerced and manipulated into having sex when their ability to reason has been impaired. If you think that's okay then I question what action or actions you're trying to justify.

[@austincurtis5406]

Carter Jenkins, swooooooon🥰

[@ashtendavis3710]

Hell yeah and then the baddest bitch was born

[@warhero99]

where did the powers come from?

[@L2L732]

After Miranda commited suicide and Jane took over, she was frequently locked up in asylums because of her issues and during that time she was experimented on for Metahuman experiments that gave her and her personas powers....

[@warhero99]

@@L2L732 they should be then

[@hinatashoyo1748]

warhero99 Did you not watch S1? There was literally a scene in the Dr Harrison episode, Paw Patrol I believe, where there was a flashback of Jane being injected with a serum and Mr Nobody said something along the lines of, Could this be where she gets her powers?

[@joseykingofthewells2570]

I thought the blade person was shayna bazler from wwe lol

[@BaDik_Jacob]

Polly is an ass for laughing lol I kind of did too tbh

[@mxfxndom]

Some people involuntarily laugh in stressful or confusing situations as a way to convince themselves that what is happening isn’t that horrible. It’s happened to me before when I saw a friend of mine get really hurt, and I was afraid for their safety.

[@angelslut]

Remember that everyone has a different personality and not everyone is gonna act the same

[@L2L732]

It was more like she was in so much pain it had become funny......

[@seandechavez7365]

Polly wasn't laughing it was a defense mechanism [she had come up earlier and asked what is this then started laughing] the 2 next to her were comforting her

[@seandechavez7365]

*laughing like LOL

[@AntonioGonzalez-iw5pm]

What’s the song

[@TheDisneyLover58]

The personas are picky and honestly judgemental as fuck.

[@comicfan5893]

This was all a flashback

[@tlcnae4226]

What is it on ?

[@comicfan5893]

HBO max

[@revengeofbcraig5755]

Aziz Ansari hated this scene.

[@halliegoldrup-lopez9303]

Fucking love crazy jane shes my waifu ❤️

[@cxrisdxvil]

I really wonder where could I read doom patrol comic book for free?

[@cxrisdxvil]

@Jake thanks. ❤

[@Cyclases]

I haven't read the comics, but what is the point of daddy persona in the comics?

[@davidgrant57]

It’s a manifestation of her trauma

[@Cyclases]

@@davidgrant57 Does he have an arc there?

[@quinnsinclair7028]

@@Cyclases He's literally a manifestation of the memories Kay has of being sexually assaulted. I don't know that there's much of an arc to have with that.

[@nicholasarif6720]

Who is Miranda's boyfriend real name??

[@DonoZeek]

Yeah, im confused. What happened? Was it orgy gone wrong?

[@corneliusfarrell8673]

Lol i have no idea dis my first time seeing this scene

[@taylorboney1089]

It wasn’t an orgy gone wrong. Its the fact that Miranda didn’t really want to be in an orgy but went along with it to please her boyfriend.

[@DonoZeek]

@@taylorboney1089 so she was raped? Did she at least voice her concerns?

[@taylorboney1089]

Danial Zaini She voiced her concerns to her boyfriend before the orgy, but since it seemed that her boyfriend was going to leave her, she decided to do it. She consented but at the same time she didn’t actually want to do it so I’m not sure if it’s rape.

[@DonoZeek]

@@taylorboney1089 it was rape. For sex and orgy to work, you need to be 100% sure and into it. If not, then your body and mind can't handle it. So that's rape.

[@levanmaisuradze559]

firsttake

[@HIDHIFDB]

WOw so "strong and independent woman"™

[@lol_909]

first

[@zachariefelixasteroid9669]

I seriously hate this "representation" of DID.

[@DrowsyKodi]

Care to elaborate cause I know a few systems that enjoyed this portrayal one had critiques about the VFX when a switch is happening but not much negitive feedback

[@zachariefelixasteroid9669]

@@DrowsyKodi I am a system and I think Doom Patrol did a horrible job. It looks like they skimmed a view wiki articles about DID and then used everything about system life for supernatural horror, trauma porn, and shock value. It was inaccurate and offensive at best. The use of language like “primary”, the constant disrespect of Jane’s alters (ie only recognizing Jane as a real person who belongs to the team), the way they used magic powers to travel inside her system, which is dangerous rhetoric in the system community because it rings of manipulation. The alter death, again, the pure shock value.. I am sick and tired of DID “representation” being explained by magic powers, triggering content nonstop, and system switching being shown as erratic, chaotic, and violent. It sucks.

[@zachariefelixasteroid9669]

@@DrowsyKodi Like, look in my face and tell me that Doom Patrol and “crazy” Jane (ableist name!) did a good thing for systems when people keep telling me that only an actor without DID could play a system because “people with DID wouldn’t be able to stay in control while filming.” 😐