DCUO: EOG Nerf & Double Art XP!

[@ObsidianChill]

0:00 Start 1:39 What Changed? 4:14 Before and After Comparison EOG Spam 5:31 DPS Changes 7:41 No Stacking Example 8:25 Should you keep or replace EOG?

[@ObsidianChill]

If it wasn't already obvious I didn't have EOG on at 3:15 when I showed that quick example, I sincerely apologize to all whom that impacted.

[@Rightful.visuals]

In my healer experience so far, the nerfed green spam sucks. I’ll start a raid with full supercharge and it’ll be dried up immediately. And I BARELY even get the DPS’s in the group 3-4 neo venom boosts WITH them soul cloak swapping. It’s not worth the hassle for what you’re outputting now imo.

[@NocSlays]

Now they need to fix the power regen for gagdets and every other power that lacks power regen since they want to balance the game they need to balance the power regen.

[@slowmojo9355]

No, get gud😂

[@NocSlays]

@@slowmojo9355 yeah true even tho I know I’m better than you lol. Maybe you should take your own advice.

[@HiHi-yk1mv]

@@slowmojo9355 What being good gotta do with power regen?

[@slowmojo9355]

This game is already easy as it is, and you still want some more assistance from the Devs😄!...Ohhh now im not top DPS😱, so Devs can you give me Mo Powers so i can top the scoreboard😄..

[@PeterParker-vq2cz]

all these changes to dcuo, i been checking everyday for a video :P cheers and thank you!!!!!

[@jerryreed9163]

I never used EoG as a DPS and didn't mind the removal of the sharing aspect but extremely unhappy about the self healing and SC regen from a Tank aspect in higher Elite plus feat runs. Unless now 12% health over 6 sec as a Tank is useless.

[@nicksandz3209]

Eog users on suicide watch right now

[@jerryreed9163]

@nicksandz3209 😆, pretty much, what they should have done was make it where it wasn't sharable but leave the actual user to recieve everything self generating alone. It is definitely useless for Tanking now now

[@nicksandz3209]

@@jerryreed9163 Yep, But thanks to scoreboard chasers thisrty to be top damage exploitong eog like fiends or crack they reduced it to crap which is why I never used it and still was outdamaging eog users and I'm Hardlight 🤣🤣

[@jerryreed9163]

@nicksandz3209 Yeah, I really never used as a DPS and did fine but damn I really miss it as a Tank in Elite plus runs etc

[@nicksandz3209]

@@jerryreed9163 yea for tank and healer it was great

[@hoottheowl6777]

although my EOG is maxed out, but i've never been a fan of out. i'd only end up using it if the team wants me to. usually i just use TC, PHR and POD. so this change absolutely doesn't personally bother me :D

[@Shadow497]

Im curious to see if they change back the healer SC to 50% since they finally fixed EOG.

[@manofculture1594]

Nope,mepps said no

[@LordElvyLendMeYourStrength]

fixed or destroyed eog

[@jmg4208]

​​@@LordElvyLendMeYourStrength I say fixed.. getting same buff from a 2500 to a 10000 didn't make any logical sense. But I would agree eog stacking should have suffer a diminishing return, instead of being remove.

[@LordElvyLendMeYourStrength]

@@jmg4208 lets be honest the stacking and buff i dont mind those, but the taking away the SC is what destroyed it

[@slowmojo9355]

Get gud🤣

[@ElMecias]

RIP eog🕊

[@elbromaz6334]

so you are finally happy and can sleep in peace good for you...eog tanking was fun as heck guess with all the crying they just had to

[@ObsidianChill]

there was lots of ways to adjust EoG that would have kept it a good art but the devs good a completely different direction than I wanted and suggested shrug

[@elbromaz6334]

And that's my point in every game the nerf are awful the items are good when they are out for the first time but with nerfs what happens is devs drag it to the ground happens in different games by different developers

[@mchouse3]

That’s a nice fire L/O ya got there 👀. Side note I’m definitely going to feed my EOG into something else ( probably my grim too) I’m fire so I got trans, strat and I want to use ebon as my last one with idk dead king as a swap

[@jmg4208]

I'm thinking clarion or scrap for my fire toon.

[@acidicxreaper6663]

Literally saw you in game last night

[@RF-wg8ry]

You'll never beat when skill was the only factor that determined the scoreboard. That went for healing in, damaging in, etc... shame. My favourite game of all-time hands down

[@fortuitouslime7083]

I’ve been running Trans, Scrap, and EOG as an Elec might dps for AOE and it’s been working pretty well. I use scrap over Strat bc with Elec, seemed like the main priority was pop CB as many times as possible. That plus EOG was always good damage. Now that EOG may not be as reliable/consistent, could I run Trans, Scrap, and Quis and still deal roughly the same damage output? Or does scrap need to be replaced by something like Strat card in this new formation?

[@ObsidianChill]

Quislet will help you earn CB more often and pairs well with electric

[@fortuitouslime7083]

@@ObsidianChill Good to know, thank you!

[@joshuacooper8838]

Hopefully I get a reply, I’m a might electric dps seem to struggle with aoe damage, what artifacts should I run and load out help would be appreciated

[@noahfloah8568]

Solar amp vs quislet for earth might ST? (I already fed EoG into solar amp + breakthroughs lol). My other two arts are trans/ strat. And grim I use on melee loadout becuase it's kinda power heavy with clipping unstoppable

[@lewbaldwin2190]

Did the green stacked before they nerfed it? For example if two healers had greens at the same time, did we get double the super regen? @Obsidian Chill. My friend said only get regen from one healer super but you see animations for both.

[@scenicroute6981]

OBSIDIAN CHILL!! I blame YOU for this nerf, 1st you started with solar amp, its enough that we have to compete with you pc players, an speed hackers, but unlike you it takes some of us months to lvl these freaking arts, so b4 you open your mouth about arts that should be nerfted, bcuz you need need vid content, make vids on how to fix pvp, or upgrade these broken servers. Your a tank so stay in your lane an keep us alive SIR, your more hated than Matt super right now!! aahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!

[@xz4409]

Stop crying,Another noob who cant be good without eog😂

[@slowmojo9355]

Someone needs a Chill pill😄

[@adamquark7515]

Hey Obsidian... Look, given I quite trust your opinion, I wanna ask you if it's worth it to change artifacts from time to time? I mean, I currently have the twi cards and the solar amplifier equipped (the three of them at rank 200). Do you think they're still the best ones for a superpower dps?

[@ObsidianChill]

you can get away without solar amplifier now, trans/strat will always be a good combo but you could go quislet instead of solar or amulet/ebon if you are staying might

[@adamquark7515]

@@ObsidianChill So I need to start over 😭😁. We'll see 😁

[@adamquark7515]

@@ObsidianChill Thanks

[@adamquark7515]

@@ObsidianChill What's ebon?

[@ObsidianChill]

@@adamquark7515 kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJqVlnyepNKXaJo

[@magusxxx]

I have a nice La-Mort card + Batman Who Laughs build. Ebon seems like it would fit right in. Except I'm Fire and the power loss would be a little iffy. Like you said, no visual cue is kinda iffy. If they need to make sure everything has a visual cue, Ebon, La-Mort, etc..

[@novadeathstar5845]

So for dps your circle gets canceled if someone else pops his first? Or only if you are far away from their circle?

[@ObsidianChill]

if you are out of range it won't be canceled, but then you are just stacking your own damage which isn't going to be much with EoG.

[@jam_2315]

I need some more testing on the whole grim vs venom wrist vs quislet for prec builds. It seems grim is pretty much out and so far I don't see a huge difference at all in quislet vs venom wrist. Seems tho venom wrist and cards is best for adds & swapping in quislet on SCs. And just keep quislet in for single target

[@ObsidianChill]

VWD I find more high risk, high reward. If you miss the buff window for any reason its a waste. Could be CC'd, need to block reposition etc where quis is passive damage. Grim will only help with power issues from running RSK as prec (if that is an issue) sure you have higher base stats with grim but compared tot he quis SC regen, SC damage proc and the mega blast every 5s it has way more potential than grim, even when factoring in the 10% pi bonus

[@gattonero4604]

Hi Obsidianchill,una pregunta que artefacto es mejor para St boss Quislet vs Amplificador solar? Gracias espero una respuesta muy bien video. 😊

[@slowmojo9355]

​@@gattonero4604 chale vato si te entendera el español Obsidian Chill.

[@gattonero4604]

@@slowmojo9355 jajaja con google traductor se puede entender yo tambien hablo italiano ,la proxima vez le escribo mejor en italiano a questo mio amico Obsidianchill.

[@pskshadow]

Rip OEG. *2018 +2023 😂😂😂😂

[@fockafacebook4345]

Before I level ebons I was wondering if u think that running ebons with amulet is to much? Like could I possibly make a rotation that works with both or do u think it would be a damage loss because I'd kept resetting the stacks?

[@ObsidianChill]

running ebon with amulet will be too much for the vast majority of groups to handle. That is nearly 100k dmg you would be doing to yourself every single power you hit at 10 stacks

[@lewbaldwin2190]

Trying to find out if green circles stacked before update for sc regen. My friend told me it didn’t from two healers spamming eog. She said that you only get regen standing close to the person who cast the first supercharge. Can anyone verify this I want to know how the regen worked before, because I never paid attention lol @everyone.

[@blueroseshadow9789]

Eog isn't worth it have now its actually garbage

[@Motivated-hk6cv]

*Should you still use EoG? Long Story short:* *• Healer/Tank:* If you dont want to go for another Art build you can still keep it, as its still viable but you won't get as much out of it as you used to. There are better options available now after the nerf. *• Dps:* Not worth keeping unless you are a Art Switcher.

[@amazingman7760]

Obsidian, do you know if it's a bug that the EoG doesnt heal the additional 12%/18%/ 36% after the green circle is gone?

[@scenicroute6981]

Signed... Was a fan ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[@kagami7055]

Do you think precision dps on gadget is viable? And if yes whar artifacts you would use? Im using grimorion, transformation and strategist card currently but I didn't play for a year maybe something has changed :)

[@ObsidianChill]

gadgets prec is still at the top, it is more power heavy then you will remember from a year ago but that artifact combination is the one being used now with EoG changed

[@kagami7055]

@@ObsidianChill thank you for your advice. What would you exactly remove for EoG?

[@slowmojo9355]

Yea thats about right, thats what 99% of players use😂

[@galemafia]

As a tank i run eog, manacles, and mystic. Is it worth getting black adam ally for sc regen or should i just run lasso or everyman?

[@hton263]

Hey obsidian ,I’m mainly atomic for the tanking but what would you suggest for the dps role?

[@ObsidianChill]

Hi, do you mean what artifacts I would suggest for dps role?

[@hton263]

Yes the artifacts.

[@SaviorPrime2024]

I wish to point out, that in the first part when you were talking about regen and demoed flash attack. You didn't have EoG equiped to show the regen of dash attack. You just performed the Dash Attack and talked about how little regen you got from EoG without EoG being equiped. Also, in the EoG Before and After Comparison, the before is sped up faster than the after.... It's like 2-4 times faster than the after, so yea, no matter what the faster video on the bottom is gonna have more rotations than the slow-normal rate of speed of the top.

[@ObsidianChill]

The sped up clip doesn't impact the number of usages. Both were starting at full SC to show how many 2500's you could use before and after, which was the healer meta running 3x sc for green spam. Not much point in showing a black screen for 2min while the before keeps spamming sc when the after has already run out

[@SaviorPrime2024]

@@ObsidianChill what about the part of demoing regen of EoG without it being equiped

[@ObsidianChill]

@@SaviorPrime2024 I misspoke there, there wasn't a green circle so everyone would have known I wasn't using eog.

[@pedrohigueras3719]

Hello, people I want to play controller, what do you recommend? Gadgets? Quantum? Which? Thank you.

[@chrisdlc281]

Quantum the best

[@ajadams3297]

I switched Quizlet for urgrund getting extra 30k damage for using super powers and eog i still spam 5 or 6 times every raid

[@synjuro]

finally

[@dannytarver4533]

What are the best artifacts for fire DPS/tank? About to start playing again, had to stop... not because I wanted to.

[@chrisdlc281]

Mystic/Manacle and Lazarus Pit

[@CurvyBobbie]

Got lucky with a few OG names, Ry / Nia / Liz / Kia / Liv / CPU / Ms / Iva / Mya.

[@domvsdom]

Hey chill just wondering should I swap out my solar amp for ebons?

[@ObsidianChill]

you can, SA isn't needed in most ST cases and is only useful when there is a boss with multiple adds. Ebon can work on AOE and ST

[@ObsidianChill]

you just have to watch if you are using a finisher in the rotation for ST

[@davidjones9538]

Been watching your videos for a while, and they always seem more complicated than they actually should be sounds like good information but I have no idea what you’re talking about😂

[@ObsidianChill]

its not something that can be explained in 30 seconds. We're talking about people spending $100's and $100's of dollars on artifacts

[@gottfriedosterbach3907]

So for Ice Tank do you still recommend Manacles, Mystic, and Circes Mask?

[@ObsidianChill]

not circes mask no, you could take refractor or lazrus pit if you run elite/elite+ content

[@gottfriedosterbach3907]

Thank you, that is great because already partially levelled DR.

[@noahrobinson6621]

Would ebon and amulet work well together or would Trans strat ebon be better

[@MrNapper5271]

Following for response

[@Shadow497]

You'll take a lot more damage running both arts because you'll use more power so you'll take more damage. See his video on the art

[@ObsidianChill]

ebon and amulet you won't be able to use at max stacks, too much damage. If you are going to try to be 4-5 stacks to survive you might as well only use 1 of the arts and do trans-strat-ebon or trans-quis-ebon etc

[@MrMack49]

Saw a munition player doing crazy damage with ebon trans n strat

[@gattonero4604]

​@@MrMack49Municion es el poder de los noob es muy facil hacer buen damage con ese poder,cuando recien comence en el juego era Municion, ahora tengo 640 sp soy water y mi daño es muy bueno a diferencia de otros jugadores con el mismo poder. No olvides que es el poder que hace el daño y no el jugador, no puedes comparar un dps atomico con un dps municion entiendes a lo que me refiero.

[@cookmytea8305]

im running at 329 sp and im running prec should I switch to might and im using strat and trans and what should i do might or prec and what 3rd art should i use currently using: strat trans and venom

[@AxlMcDanielsss]

Im a fire DPS and i got trans, strat and solar amp with solar being the only at 160 something. Should i feed solar unto something else like grim ? I use inferno to burn so i don't really need heat vision on my loadout anymore i think..just wanna make sure im taking advantage of double xp

[@ObsidianChill]

you could feed solar into quislet or amulet works well with fire too with the self heals

[@AxlMcDanielsss]

@@ObsidianChill Thank you ! I'll look into that. Appreciate all your content, keep it up

[@DookyStupyd]

In your opinion is scrap a must have swappable Art to have?

[@ObsidianChill]

if you want the most potential out of your dps super, yes. Scrap will not only allow you the extra regen but also the cooldown reduction. However if you don't want to swap you can simply have extended SC on the chest and then really all you're losing besides just 2% SC is the cooldown reduction, which you may not be able to take advantage of anyways if you aren't building super fast enough. So must have I would say no, unless your focus is on competitive damage.

[@DookyStupyd]

@@ObsidianChill Thank you as always, I appreciate the excellent feedback.

[@ooe5905]

The way I see it scrap is a better swap now more super and the cooldown get your super off more often and before anyone popping eog DPS(damage per second)

[@ObsidianChill]

true, alot were already using scrap swaps but still in my opinion eog as a swap is high risk, high reward unless you are telling other dps in vc or something when you are about to pop.

[@maxwill2995]

1st you use dash attack without eog and you talk about regen ,even with head mod, 2nd are you 100% that quinslet works with a power every 5sec? or maybe that power need to dmg the target to so the extra quinslet dmg can proc ? coz powers like gadgets mines or superspeed ones to clip , they might not proc it we those powers don't damage the target...

[@ObsidianChill]

Glad im not allowed to misspeak during a 15min live commentary, its almost as if there was no green cricle when I used DA so everyone watching would know I was wrong. Quislet you have to deal damage to the target, that has always been the case. If Prec players what to cancel flurry shots or brawling ticks and deal no dmg that is precisions problem not might.

[@ultrabored1]

Quizlet or venom wrist dispenser for a prec fire?

[@ObsidianChill]

personally im saying Quislet, VWD looks good on the sparring targets but its a short buff window actually in content where anything can happen. Quislet is passive damage, no swaps, and helps with SC regen

[@ultrabored1]

@ObsidianChillDCUO great saved me some mats thanks a lot for reply 😀

[@andreseminov6718]

Hope they will change wm and make other weapons useable

[@lamarhuncho2777]

Ik you loving them emojis LMAO

[@stevew689]

Question = , i never art swap as it doesn't interest me at all about being top of leader board, but have, Eog maxed out, is it worth me keeping, as i hardly use it anyway, and also if i put it in a artifact on double xp week, what rank does it go to, ty 😊, great video Chill ~ 👍

[@ObsidianChill]

quislet is a good substitute for EOG even if you are prec or might. Its good passive damage, still helps you with SC regen and gives you that bonus dmg when you use a 5-10k SC. During double xp you wouldn't lose xp so 200 eog would be 200 quislet, you'd just need the seals and catalysts to rank up

[@stevew689]

@@ObsidianChill thank you so very much for the advice, and actually Quizlet has never really crossed my mind as i use grim, but know, it's the better choice, thnx Chill ~ ✊

[@xz4409]

What about Venom wrist art for prec (not gadget) Or still quizlet?

[@d4ngerouslyours]

you should be swapping venom wrist not leaving it in.

[@ObsidianChill]

im not a prec dps so can't say 100% but if you don't want to continually art swap than quislet will work just fine for prec and help offset the lost sc regen

[@xz4409]

@@d4ngerouslyours i dont swap so no Venom?

[@d4ngerouslyours]

@@xz4409 ye i guess. my best suggestion for every power except gadgets just do trans strat quiz. quiz better than grim cuz it’s gonna be giving you sc since healers aren’t anymore.

[@batmandc877]

⁠@@d4ngerouslyours why except gadgets? Is gadgets have different build?

[@ZeoDcuo]

Obsidian please got I’m begging… 2023 Powers Guide please lord LMFAO I need the loadouts nobody does it like you man PLEASE 🙏

[@wspapi5463]

Im gadgets prec im thinking of running electric or munitions might with trans scrap and ebon and swapping in deadkings and all that idk if im gonna do more or less damage im using trans strat and venom

[@ObsidianChill]

gadgets prec is still strong from what i've seen from players but the dks swap on muni and some other powers is right up there too. Elec might took a big hit though, especially ST not being able to use CB off cooldown

[@wspapi5463]

@@ObsidianChill you think I would do more damage with munitions even with eog nerfed im thinking of putting my venom into another art this double xp

[@johangama8505]

bro so whats the best arts for prec dps and might dps

[@ObsidianChill]

that is a very open question lol it you want just the same 3 for might and prec its trans-strat-quislet.

[@ramiro2186]

What arts can i use for elec prec and might?

[@ObsidianChill]

trans-strat-quislet

[@isthisnametaken9965]

The thing I don’t understand still is why are people mad about an artifact not part of your main 3 equipped arts? This is purely a swap art, you are never supposed to have it equipped at all times. Therefore this change did nothing for the people with a brain that knew not to keep it equipped

[@ObsidianChill]

a lot of players got used to healers running 3 supers and dps being able to hit their 5000 sc off cooldown or gadgets being able to use a sc every stealth. The whole concept wasn't reasonable and needed to be adjusted, devs just took forever to address it

[@isthisnametaken9965]

@@ObsidianChill yea true and I should’ve clarified I meant my comment for dps, which is the part a lot of people are mad at

[@synjuro]

so grim vs quislet, which one better for dps on gadgets prec

[@ObsidianChill]

can't say 100%, I hear different things from different players. Quis will deal more damage. Grim's only purpose is to help you with power

[@pdg90]

@@ObsidianChill What about the loadouts that require grim for P.I.? Like quantum, celestial?

[@ObsidianChill]

@@pdg90 quantum its only for Lift which only becomes an issue on ST, the aoe rotation I use lift without grim and have a normal pi setup.

[@ObsidianChill]

@@pdg90 if you want to invest a 200 art just for 1-2 powers then I would rather just not be those powers and pick one of the other 13 to save wasting an art

[@pdg90]

@@ObsidianChill it's already at 200. 😭 I use gravity well sometimes but the bosses nowadays like to move around a lot.

[@Jesus-hd3me]

Ebon would be a swap in ?

[@ObsidianChill]

you could replace eog with ebon yes.

[@Skilleee]

dummy heckin thicc

[@kerronsinkia6979]

In other words eog is useless good thing I dump mines in to something else cause it suks might as well take away art swapping to 😑

[@slowmojo9355]

That be great😄, no art swapping👍

[@KorbladeGaming]

Say Ebony man…Ebon…Ebony…Not ee-bonn. Eh-bon

[@ObsidianChill]

🤔🤔

[@PlusUltraBrando]

Is this update already out?

[@ObsidianChill]

correct June 1st

[@glazedpeaches2376]

So is it double xp now?

[@gattonero4604]

Yes man 😊

[@Ludogg0]

is the double xp live?

[@ObsidianChill]

it is yes

[@MrDoom1210]

It's only 1% sc from Quislet

[@ObsidianChill]

1% every 5 seconds you hit a power to proc mega blast

[@grymmreapa1411]

U didn't get eog to proc lol

[@shaloopy44]

Bro got 6bil I still haven’t touched 10mil

[@blackzen3306]

I didn’t think anyone still played this game. The graphics are from 1982.

[@slowmojo9355]

Actually the game is growing lately, lots of money coming into DCUO💪

[@blackzen3306]

@@slowmojo9355 that’s cap.

[@NocSlays]

I’m still smoking players with gadgets without EOG but ppl thinking EOG carry lol.

[@fragranceman3790]

I promise u won’t get numbers near me bro. I’ve never used EOG.

[@AbdullahAkram-gh5xp]

@@fragranceman3790 oh yea what server u on

[@isthisnametaken9965]

I’m still first or very close second dps as water 😂😂

[@NocSlays]

@@fragranceman3790 yeah? Comp tomorrow bro.

[@NocSlays]

@@fragranceman3790 Add Noctis X, US Servers

[@ZWGames]

ill get it to 80 and just use to cancel other players eog heh 😈

[@Oru-Fo-Wan]

GOT Shaz back nggaaaaaaaa

[@Erased-_]

Trash name

[@tamartin64]

I'm confused. In your video on trinkets and pets, you had Grim doing about 33% more damage than Quislet in the Non-Tier category of pets, but in this video you're saying except for Gadgets precision Quislet is better across the board. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoTRgIulYt58fMU

[@ObsidianChill]

because that spreadsheet doesn't account for Quislet's mega blast which does aoe damage every 5 seconds if you deal dmg with a power. You can parse that as its situational but if you are procing mega blast it far exceeds Grim. Plus when you use mega blast you get 1% SC regen and when you use a 5-10k SC you deal extra damage with qusilet while grim does nothing besides just passive damage.

[@Mileage_]

what should i use if i don’t want to swap with precision

[@ObsidianChill]

trans-strat-quislet

[@Mileage_]

@@ObsidianChill thanks

[@swagbutouchiha855]

@@ObsidianChillwould you recommend feeding grim to quislet as a prec dps along with trans n strat ?

[@kerronsinkia6979]

Bout still viable to use set sell dreams n false hope bout it still good to use hey OC get art swapping to stop to while yuh at... talking bout arts community etc etc can't seem to see talk bout getting fresh content instead of reskin with all that money making devs try to bribe us players with those gifts it still can't make up for all players loss 😑😑😑 set of damn excuses

[@Erased-_]

Quislet or venom wrist for prec ?

[@ObsidianChill]

Quislet is my opinion

[@RiFFxxx]

Meh i didn't understand it before the nerf.

[@frootsnacks7566]

Yeah never used eog, don’t really care.