DD2 - New Armor Sets - Just Right or Too Much?

[@MrJuicebags]

For those that want a TLDW of my opinions. I love the game mode, I love the thought of rare loot and I love the set system over all. I just wish it was just a tiny bit more achievable :)

[@masterludio150]

I love the game Mode aswell and i think the cance to get them is kinda okay but i would say they just should make you chose wich Substat you get or make it posible for like 50 Stones or smt to change the second stat and then you can Upgrade you second stat for more stones Gold and godly so you could max it out for a really hige price if you get a pice with like AP you make it hero dmg and Max the second stat that you pay like 250m Gold 100 godlys and 200 stones or smt to get the Max item so it is a Grind in differant ways but it is realistic and possible to calculate me like i get mostly 1 stone out of hard so it would take me atlest 200 runns of hard Mode for 1 pice and 100 godly orbs so i have to farm about 30h of survival and the Gold wich Depends heavali on other stuff to Max out 1 pice would make it Grindi but i would atleast know wehn and how and not well i play elemantel rumble and just prey to good and mostly troh my time in for Nothing i play the game Mode but more for funn and trying New builds and ways to complet it with Towers becours i love it but i hade the loot System and how the gear is handeld aswell i would love it if its Not Effektet by resets or atleast would be some how posible to save the pices and i think the sell valu shuld be increased in generell i dont like how this stuff is handelt by the current Stat of the game with resets as its easy to reset even with campain gear their should be a way to save the gear from being downgraded to Campain as the resets are a huge roll to the game and its long term Progression i be honest it feels more rewarding farming resets in campain gear towards the 999 resets then playing the New game mode for the gear

[@anonymousperson3347]

This elemental rumble is a good thing but the drop rate is super duper rare, but what are the exactly drop rate? Did dev say it in any place? Also gurantee second stat with set is not bad since it is rare but something must gurantee on it will be balance at emotion . If not then disappointing will be get stack as well, get only from weekly and it is with AP, pain😭

[@jack-i-ripper7815]

classic grind game 0 regard for players maximize grind so ppl are more likely to play longer and spend money Water gear is a must imo for any AP build HD does not need it stat squash made AP niche still good for CC tho. New gear should only drop with 2nd stat matching the 2 piece set bonus or increase drop chance DD1 has its own problems difficulties heroes still locked behind pay walls not the mention game it self is not F2P and after buying DLC map you have to do a quest to be able to play it so Anti-Player

[@rene6393]

The only thing i dislike about all this new feature is the following. If there is the fire week for example, why dont we have fire lanes everywhere, or atleast 50% of all elemental lanes should be fire lanes. That sounds very logical to me and also people would actually put the work to really counter the lanes... Anyone with me??

[@MrJuicebags]

Would make tons of sense no doubt.

[@D1ne-O-SAur]

Completely with you. Depending on what element that week is, you should expect to see that element being the majority of the total lanes.

[@conditionallytriggered2313]

@@rene6393 100% agreed.

[@sense2255]

i think this is a good idea to have them super rare, BUT what they need to do is make them much stronger than right now, the current stats you gain are nowhere near worth the time put in for the set as a casual.

[@danbuenger5048]

I haven’t gotten too many snakeskin armors yet, only like 20 or so pieces. So like a 100ish runs but I’ve still yet to see a single hero damage snakeskin armor from the wildest west. And now if you go with a full rumble set, you can’t even use snakeskin armor. Lol

[@Mysterark]

I think they should have a pity system for sure running 100 of maps with nothing to show for it is pretty rough

[@Mysterark]

and honestly give how the economy is on pc with gold being pretty much worthless, they should make an option to buy pieces for like idk 500m to just get rid of so much money in the market

[@fredkelly6953]

The problem for casual/serious players is you can't sell them. At least then you can have your alt pieces on your main and you can also at least get something out of doing the thing. Of course it would take away from the rarity of the armour but I suppose the numbers from chromatic will tell us how many are actually playing it or whether it's just a small elite group who use the rumble.

[@CrystallineCrazy]

Give us a resource to grind that lets us reroll/swap secondary/main stats on armor and relics because it's kinda annoying doing something only for it to be guaranteed useless

[@Solarguy-e2o]

Self manifest has been going at it and I was surprised how many maps self manifest did. They are going to need a break

[@andrewgrow5711]

just think it should be tradable I'm an old-school gamer... and there are ultra-rare things in those older games that you just can't expect to get but also you don't really neeeeed them you can't really farm it and expect success but you might get lucky and if it's tradable then u sell it and get things you really need or the trading acts as a pity mechanic... still ultra-rare, still ultra-expensive if there's trading so then u can farm towards it just ultra-rare with no trading means it might be 0% for you because 1/1000 people who farm it will just not get the thing, ever

[@Alchemistrobin]

The game is fun for the new game mode. The issue is the drop rate for the gear is not great which mean I’m not sure I’m willing to play hour and hour doesn’t seems to get much reward out of it.

[@ham09019]

It either needs to be guaranteed secondary stat or they need to implement the option to reroll that stat so the set pieces aren't bricked.

[@MrJuicebags]

I think a guaranteed secondary stat based off of the set pieces theme would remedy issues for a ton of players for sure. Great idea!

[@conditionallytriggered2313]

​​@@MrJuicebags I think being able to pick the secondary focus which would make the pieces you do drop only be able to drop the secondary stat that you have designated would solve it. That way someone who wants a hd set of the hp gear from rumble they can still farm that provided they put the time in to actually get the drops.

[@bryanmoyna9715]

If they guarantee secondary stat they would kill diversity of builds, from 3 to 1.

[@conditionallytriggered2313]

@@bryanmoyna9715 That makes no sense. People are going to aim for the stats they want either way. All that the scarcity of this is going to do is keep people who are willing to sink hundreds of hours a week playing, which isn't many people while the rest likely will stop before they even get one set together. Secondary stat has absolutely nothing to do with build diversity when firstly there are only 3 options to begin with, 2 of which are dud pieces to 95% of the player base due to them wanting secondary stats that actually match what the set is made for.

[@bryanmoyna9715]

@@conditionallytriggered2313 i hear you, that doesnt change the fact that removing 2 of the 3 secodnary stats for an item would kill diversity. All weird builds we've ever seen in DD2 are made due to diversity, removing diversity means removing fun.

[@brentmiller2227]

They need to make the drop rate higher. Go for about the same rate as gates of dragon on survival for godly. And also allow minions to drop it as well during waves. They need to also consider that it’s on rotation and you can’t sell them plus all the mats it takes to level them up. It’s gonna be a big grind regardless, but I think they way they have it now will kill that mode all together in no time at all

[@kaas323]

I dont mind the insane grind it has, but the fact you only got 1 week to grind for a HD set and have to wait for along time before continue farming that set is madness to me ;)

[@coreyano]

Ok .. I'm pretty old. I remember going to the first arcades. As games got more complex, we started having more moves we could do. Like shoot a gun and throw a grenade every now and then. Or shoot a gun, throw a grenade, and stab a knife when u get up close. So, when i play dungeon defenders, i want to use my main attack, my alt attack AND use all my abilities. These hero damage builds can't be what the developers intended.

[@beauwilliamson3628]

Every time I see you show the hero health piece, I think of the Shadowflame Mystic. There is still hope for that piece!

[@MrJuicebags]

The Shadowflame Mystic would want to use the Hero Health Set :) A hero damage set does not do very much for her at all!

[@beauwilliamson3628]

@@MrJuicebags ah, i never even noticed there was a hero health set coming up - oh well. I onlu have ability power piece anyway.

[@evilinside5984]

If these Element's from these new Armour pcs. could be converted @ the material conversion shop, for gold, & materials, & then we could add the Elemental stat/bonus to our current gear, this would make more player's interested/play more. What do you ALL think?

[@denzamar9745]

I think they should implement an item to reroll secondary stat at least for the new armor sets. Something like a pet element reroll. I dont think we necessarily need a stat reroll to get 100% but at least let us choose which stat to use HD/AP or HH.

[@bryanmoyna9715]

At this point they should add secondary stat reroll materials even if its a rare drop. And a material to reroll the same stat for higher numbers. So 1 to change hero health to hero damage for example ,and another to reroll the % number of the same stat.

[@random1550]

anyways i think it’s not worth to give up the extra 50% health just to get a full set armour , so having 2 piece is enough

[@ImAUltraNova]

there are multiple things I really dont like about this, its on a weekly rotation so it wont be accessible once the week is over so if u didnt finish ur set u would need to wait like 3 weeks for it to return which just drags it out which is just uneccessary in my opinion. The set items that are clearly focused towards a certain playstyle being able to drop with a different secondary also just hurts, did like 135 runs in the first 3 days or so and got 3 total pieces, 1 from the weekly and 2 as drops and none of them were hero damage so it just felt super unrewarding getting pieces that are literally worthless and they dont even let you recycle them like godly items so they just sit in your bag being worthless. I would be much happier if they let you basically play any map in the elemental rumble but certain maps are based on a specific element like molten citadel is fire so it has mostly fire lanes and a chance for the fire set, coral reef is water so has mostly water lanes and has a chance to drop the water set, etc and just have the weekly only apply to weekly rewards like the materials and set item you get from it like its still gonna tell u to go out of ur way to beat certain maps and get rewarded for it instead of fully locking you into only being able to farm 5 maps and only being able to farm a certain set and the armor should also always come with the right secondary stat except maybe storm since its building into 2 stats which they could maybe change into making it give you crit damage or crit chance as its secondary stat or something instead since the storm pet is already crit focused so seeing a crit focused set would be cool or they just give us a way to reroll the secondary stat instead like using 25 fire stones to reroll the secondary stat on the fire lord armor or something but cause of the rarity and the unrewarding feeling when you get screwed out of a drop I just started telling people to just see the elemental rumble as a weekly much rather than something to grind because its gonna take up so much time without any real reward as the set isnt really a must have anyway, some dont even have the time to put into it in the first place due to a job or other things. At the current state I dont even want to continue grinding out the armor even if I got nothing else left to do in the game just because of how unrewarding it is, just demotivated me from playing dd2 in its entirety.

[@Its_nemesys]

lmao i was waiting for you comment lol

[@RedShambles]

I don’t know if it’s a good idea or not. But they should have a system where if you sell your bricked pieces you get a “pity” piece to reroll for a different price. Very similar to how shards work when you sell them you can use em to get another pack. Even if it’s a lot of the “pity” piece it would make it feel at least your progressing towards something. Other than that u love the idea of rumble mode” even though I’m still to weak to run it “

[@jeffrey778]

i think now that we have some content to grind, chromatic should work on some quality of life updates. like open all boxes at the same time or some options, at least for the consumables and things.

[@jeffrey778]

i think if the armor is going to be that rare, the armor needs to be at max rolls at the very least on all non set stats.

[@DanDan-mm8om]

I think the drop rate if fine and i like how it is for gives me thing to look foward to grinding

[@siphtron]

IMO, they're a bit too rare for an extremely marginal performance gain. I do like having a long term goal but it's a bit too restrictive especially given there's only a chance once a month to grind the desired set. Additionally there's the grind to upgrade the things.

[@Flupe2]

Not a fan of it only dropping from the chest; would be nice if it could drop from bosses as well. Horrible drop rates would be fine on the boss drops. It would just be nice to know it's possible.

[@Naviss]

My only hope will be doing the weekly and get the 1 drop for completing it each week. May never have a complete set. But unless you're a dps focused hero, the sets really don't help much past normal gear.

[@insanityplea5502]

My loot drop luck in gaming is completely hit or miss. SWTOR - First raid dungeon, first run, got all but the last bosses piece for my Inquisitor's set WoW - Molten Core in OG Original WoW, took me like...oh wait I never finished my gear sets in WoW cause RNG hated me and my guild's rogues. DD1 - Nightmare? Whats that? Good loot? hahahaha /wrist If im lucky, im horribly lucky. If im unlucky im horribly unlucky. So, as it stands, me not even being C10 running ready, im not sure how many days or years it will take to get a HD or AP set for my heroes. Im not farming Easy for its sub1% drop rate or w/e it is lol.

[@JohnBoyGamer1]

i have a life and wasn't even able to finish the first 100 stars on the first elemental rumble week

[@eugenvolokh6078]

what happens with set after visiting ascention? (mana node reset or how its name) schould i upgrade set to c10?

[@BanhBao9824]

It will be a nightmare then😂

[@MrJuicebags]

Same as any other gear, you would just have to reupgrade it. I don't think anyone has tested that yet though, I will ask around.

[@Its_nemesys]

@@BanhBao9824 lol

[@BanhBao9824]

I run like 15 map so far and... not surpirse when I get nothing red except for the weekly reward. Haha

[@jeffrey778]

other then being rare? do these pieces have value? or are they kinda just meh? i think in order for these pieces to be worth any thing they need 4 main stats instead of 3

[@BraydonMcmenamin]

Not me here without any godly gear let alone even beening able to try for the new stuff

[@brad31781]

To get the free drop is it the normal weekly or is there a special weekly I am unaware of?

[@MrJuicebags]

it is the little weekly progress bar you see when you start an elemental rumble match up in the top right.

[@bryanmoyna9715]

I wouldnt mind puting the time if those were relics instead of armor. The armor sets we got, being Hero damage/abilty based, i honestly dont see a reason to farm them other than just farming them. I like the concept of the new game mode but its pretty similar to the other gamemodes so IDK for how long i'll be willing to play the game, i jsut came back from a long break and farming for armor that i dont need...why? im playing the gamemode as a challenge but thats gonna last like, weeks maybe. I honestly do not understand how can they bring armor sets back to the franchise but literally only give set bonuses to hero and not a single one to defenses, what is this game? At least give us a gamemode or maps that allows us to transform this new hero power we got into defense power/utilities via new loot. To play action games i got way better options than DD2, with way better loot and gameplay when it comes to action. I appreciate the new ideas but i do not understand the carrot on teh stick here, for old veterans and old collectors i get it, the game has nothing for you so farming fro thousands of hours has become your new goal, for me, even though im also a veteran, i dont see the appeal of farming just to farm, i rather enjoy the game. Right now im playing heroes of the storm again, im having a blast despite doing the same thing over and over again because the game is fun, DD2 isnt fun to do over and over again. And yes, i know its DD, i played DD1 back in the day, i am a DD2 veteran as well but i wanna have fun and although the new stuff isnt bad, i had to skip 3 patches in order to have enough new content to enjoy because theres very little content added. 1 new map for a big update? 1 single map? in a game based on tower defense? and its not even a great map its literally a circle...What do i say to this? ive been here from pretty early in teh game development, a friend gifted me they alpha key cos he knew i loved DD1, and after 2 companies have developed the game i wonder, is tehre any hope left for them to make this game better? OMG now that im thinking about it, where the hell is kings game for DD2? taht got me so mad taht they only released it for DDA and then they abandoned that game, WTH is wrong with them?! Im getting pissed. 5/10 on latest patch, can they fix it? yes, will they? i dont expect them to. Decided to not spend money in DD2 since crystal mines patch, and not a single patch has changed my mind so far, tahts like 4 to 5 patches? :(

[@jeffrey778]

i come back to the game every now an then, i no life the game for about a month or so. if the grind is to much and to inflated i just leave and play better games. wayfinder is going to be out soon on xbox and that game got rid of all its pay to win/ pay to progress/ pay to open gate/ pay for convivence, all that stuff and it is a much better game now. once the rest of the world figures out these games dont need to be held back for random from a cash shop there's going to be a big shift. i love massively huge grinds, but the value needs to be there. i dont like feeling like im doing something for nothing. the itemization in this game sucks, however i was going to say it has potential; the thing is this game almost been out for 10 years and still have not figured it out yet. i dont like grinding just for the sake of grinding and i dont like challenge just for the sake of challenge if there is no reward in it. this game is in no shape or form to even come close to needing "chase" items in it. this game does not even have "mid" items yet.

[@ash19901990]

Meh, I'm waiting for borderlands 4 to drop than bye-bye dungeon defenders 2. So until then I will play it to do daily missions and weekly and as far as new game mode go I don't really care for it cause it's not really worth it to me and I don't really have the time to no life it. This game isn't even new players friendly anymore.

[@kxngteo8306]

Typical dd2 community thay want everything easy then cry about lack of content. Tho i do think their should be more additional drops so i don't feel like i wasted my entire day.