Build Bigger Bucks by Understanding Growth Cycles

[@Chris-sf7ug]

No lie, I had a tear in my eye the last couple minutes watching this. What a well spoken story teller.

[@noahgrisaffe]

Same I felt connected to the deer after this video.

[@johnmorley6663]

RIP Charlie, you taught us so much about these magnificent creatures.

[@Elephant-Puppet]

I didn’t know that he died

[@yogibear6271]

you probably wouldn't amit it but I bet that buck had a place in your heart.

[@kevinhickey2931]

Rip spikey. I hope in deer heaven you have all the fields to feed in, all the other bucks to battle with and all the does to mount. Rest in piece my friend.

[@goodfriend7609]

I wish more hunters would let the smaller bucks walk....it's worth it when you see that wall hanger step out and get that shot.

[@micahfrye8885]

Good Friend my first hunt we got a spike. I didn't shoot it my dad did. Anyways it was about this time when we saw our "monster" last I seen he was about 6'7" 250 pounds field dressed and was 14. The care taker of the property has videos him for about 13 year and never him. His dad holds the state record as he was recorded for about 14 years and was about 15. I think it was a 23 pointer and field dressed around 280 or 290. There's another big buck coming round that we think may be offspring

[@SkanDogVids]

Not trying to sound cocky I have been very fortunate over the years bc of the land I dad bought in the 90s we own 46 acres. On this property I have killed two 10s three 8s and two 6s literally this morning the second weekend of archery I passed up a 6 point I wouldn't call it a monster 6 but it wasn't a basket 6 either I ended up letting him go bc I have realized all of the bucks i have killed I don't think have reached maturity so I hope that 6 point lives on camera we also have a basket 8 which I won't shoot and a decent 9 I might decide to shoot just gotta do more research on determining age of bucks

[@EthanPDobbins]

@@SkanDogVids the 9 is probably a 3.5-4 year old buck. Id shoot him or shoot does and let the other two run around the 6 is probably 2.5 and the 8 probably is too if hes a basket 8.

[@SkanDogVids]

@@EthanPDobbins Yeah basket 8. Haven't gotten bucks on my cameras in a fee weeks im thinking it's bc of a bear that IS on camera im going to have to shoot him if i see him

[@erikmurray3661]

Dude i totally agree i hate it especially in Florida they kill anything.

[@Blingem14]

amazing. I hear everyone say you shouldn't let them get pass about 3 or 4, that it's all downhill after that. Just shows how impatient we are as a society. Perfect harvest is actually around 6 and still in their prime at 7. Truly great information and great work.

[@josephhale9198]

Quit listening to idiots!😜

[@johnwilliams2427]

You realize this only applied to this sanctuary...free range deer you can take two years off life expectancy and a you will see significant amount of decline after eight years of age

[@EthanPDobbins]

@@johnwilliams2427 yup flat teeth and no supplemental feed = hard livin

[@deb4735]

That was amazing to learn. Me coming from a Dad who was a hunter and Mom who cooked all his wild life kill. I myself could not shoot one of these. I respect those who do for food. I live rural and appreciate what I do see of them even in my yard. This vid of this buck and him becoming an old man brought me to tears.

[@z06supervette13]

Let the little ones go it’s so worth it when your day comes. Let them grow!

[@hatesocialists]

@@ScottWConvid19 actually there is zero evidence of that, it all comes down to field dressing and stress of the kill. Proper cooking techniques

[@diaryofagoat-lass1023]

Yet another example of "be careful who you make fun of in middle school" Awesome video and so very helpful. Thank you!

[@FarmallFanatic]

One of my favorite all time KZbin videos

[@user-dn6qy1ou1f]

That was an excellent video. Really shows the true potential of letting them mature. Very well done 👍

[@t.d.hughart5121]

Charlie was a great story teller as evidenced by this clip.

[@sandych33ks1]

What a truly ggreat video.. I live in the Adirondacks and I have hunted all my life.. I learned allot with this video.

[@outdoorsmanal1759]

Spectacular video! Second time I’ve seen it over the years now. Lots of information in there! Makes me sad to see him go but happy for the long life he enjoyed.

[@estelltabor4692]

Really enjoyed this video. Not really understanding some of the comments about the video. This should make us all want to be better managers of the land and deer. Amazing jump after moving the deer. My approach for years is to let the bucks mature and harvest does for meat. My biggest drive lately is to provide more variety for them. This year I’ve plant 4 chestnut trees 7 apple trees 1 crabapple 1 pear tree. Transplanted several devils walking sticks,all of this next to 3 acres of clover and chicory food plot. Mostly cattle farms around me with a little crop soybeans/corn rotation. I’ve also cleared out and fertilized around some persimmon trees. My future plans are plum trees, few more pear trees,few more chestnut trees and dwarf chinkapin trees. I also pulled down a lot of wild grape vines to put it in reach of the deer. I hinge cut several trees too and have several more marked for this winter too. Trying to give them all they need.

[@DDHONLINE]

Thanks for watching! Charlie was a pioneer whitetail behaviorist in North America. We miss him dearly.

[@djstl100]

Soo many fair weather hunters that only go out 3 days a year really need to heed this information.. before they go out and start blasting everything in sight

[@estelltabor4692]

I agree 100%. My dad introduced me to the outdoors when I was a 7th grader, he died a week after my 7th grade year. I took it on myself to start letting young bucks walk. I have never regretted it. I’ve learned so much more watching deer than shooting. When I want meat I’ll shoot a doe.

[@estelltabor4692]

I agree with what your saying. Don’t get me wrong I’d love to kill a Boone & Crocket buck, but my goal is to shoot a mature buck.

[@gta9209]

Amazing story. Thank you, especially since I'm also from WNY.

[@darenshepherd1955]

Great video. My family has a butcher shop and process deer during those seasons. I see various deer come into the shop but majority are ones that should have been passed up. I compliment people who bag does as our buck to doe ratio is unreal and have to refrain from scolding the ones who are just "horn hunters". I was never sold on a spike will only be a spike. People need to watch this and understand that having mature bucks benefits the herd.

[@maineoutdoorsman677]

Dame what ever his name was I miss him the deer old soldier how many battles he have .at least he got to spread his genes .i have an old doe that lives around my house an got her on trail cams already at my stand watching me walk in an i allways see her .shes part of the neborhood know she’s got 2 grow does I love watching g here go through her acts .an she allways bring in the bucks ,

[@terryleblanc6868]

Really nice to see that video.. antlers growth varies with health factors , spring time food shortage from drought , flood.. if it was a doe or a cow , we hear about the weight.. I like to hear the weight of big bucks.. 175, 225,, 300 lbs ? I'm more of a meat Hunter..

[@djstl100]

It's really amazing how a 250-300 lb animal can hide so well. before deer cameras, you rarely saw a huge buck on the hoof unless shot or hit by vehicle.

[@jeremywilliams2927]

Absolutely amazing research!

[@deerohdeer8000]

Great film & knowledge!!! Fantastic 👍

[@boknows2188]

Matt Harper wow what would he know? He had a deer hunting farm In Thayer Iowa and his theories work so well he rents it out for cattle grazing now!

[@markmoody703]

Yes rest in peace he was the best and I never knew this about deer

[@nickbowman2537]

Very good video.... lot of information to be had here

[@chadbinette3201]

A "yearling" buck or 1.5 year old buck can vary by 3-4 months. Some fawns are born in May, some June, July, even August. So even though they are in the same age group they can vary by 4 months of growing. That's why it bugs me up here in the northeast when someone shoots a small deer and calls it a "yearling" no dude that deer had spots 2 months ago, even born in May and harvested in November that's a 6month old deer at most, maybe even 3 or 4 months old.

[@Eastky23wildlife]

Howlong do fawns keep their spots?

[@paulhenry8586]

Biggest prob with aging deer where i live in the midwest is ive noticed some smaller average body sizes compared to what weve seen in years past. Smaller bodied deer with bigger racks and alot of bigger bodied deer with smaller racks. I know genetics play a big part but it just seems a little off from what weve seen in previous years. We even have a buck thats now been around for 8-9 years. When he first showed up he had one side that was around 80 inches but the other side was a giant spike. So what shouldve been a beautiful 10 point was a six haha. We let the deer alone and just watched him year to year thinking he had been injured and this was the cause of the antler deformity and he would still spread his genes throughout the local herd. Bot dod he ever weve had numerous young bucks now show up with one nice typical side and a spike or main b3am only on the other. At what we figured to be about 7 he finally grew a complete rack that was kinda heavy with short tines but had double droptines and wouldve prob grossed in the140s with7 typical points plus thedrops on each side and when he gained this head gear he totally disappeared for therest of that season so we figured he had been killed. Well that was past year and he just now finally showed back up with a typical 100 inch 8or 9 point rack but his body is gargantuan probably the only legit 280-300 pound deer ive ever seen around my area. Its been fun watching him grow old but ikinda wish we wouldve taken him out of thegene pool years back bit being we only get 1 buck tag its hard to burn a tag on a cull deer especially when there other shooters around. Also like i said weve had alot of small bodies deer with big racks too which will confuse a guy too im talkin bucks thatll dress out around 120-130 pounds with 140-160 inch racks its crazy

[@ourv9603]

I have always been told you count the points on 1 side to determine age. !

[@chrishenicke2052]

I have never in my life seen a spike buck older than 1.5 yrs old. I’ve have worked in the hunting industry for yrs and seen thousands of deer killed. Antler growth is directly affected by deer density and nutrition.... In a perfect world, all bucks would have good nutrition and would all reach their potential but it is not that way every where. I have seen a bunch of buck fawns with spikes and have argued with hunters about it. It’s because we were feeding them good. Fawns that are born late in the year will always be behind earlier fawns until they reach maturity. There are a lot of factors to be considered when talking about correct harvest of potentially mature deer. Also remember that mature females need to be harvested as well... It’s all part of the numbers game that needs to be achieved when harvesting the “right” animals. Deer herds are basically no different than cattle herds. You cull out the undesirable ones and keep the better ones to have a better herd. It’s really pretty black and white these days. Impatience is the factor for most hunters. Let them grow and they will get big! ✌️

[@EthanPDobbins]

Yea i hate that "once a spike always a spike" myth. People will be talking about how they watch the spike for three or four years and every year they shoot a little 4-8 point thats actually the 2.5 year old that was a spike the year before 🤣

[@tommyguillory6274]

Very interesting ,thanks for sharing.

[@keeganyost8123]

This is why people cherish taking the old dominant back. They eventually slowly wither away and it's kind of a sad ending.

[@caiodelucca2407]

Is there anything we can compare this to? Wish he would do more of these videos with diff bucks

[@caiodelucca2407]

Saw someone say rip charlie, I guess we don't get to see more of this :'(

[@diehardoutdoors]

This is so fascinating! Thanks !

[@DirtyDave25]

What you called “having potential” at 2 yrs was the equivalent of a trophy buck in my county in north arkansas

[@bradhenke7552]

Because everyone shoots them when they're that size....

[@stevene6181]

I don't think I've ever personally, not on video, seen a deer in the flesh older than maybe four years old here in the Ozarks of Missouri.

[@bossdawg165]

Boy at age 6.5 he looked like a rookie starting linebacker for the cowboys or something with a big sign on bonus

[@MuirclanforJesus]

Hunters in the know, let the young bucks grow...

[@toddreynolds8875]

Good video very interesting

[@curtismerriman9956]

Awesome video.

[@brandonduhon3136]

GREAT INFO ....THANKS

[@mountainman3240]

Great video but we have to realize this is all in.. and... under a controlled environment... with great resources and nutrition... meaning that deer may have died way sooner in the wild and may have never reached potential growth... Great video regardless

[@chelseazarate189]

If you listened to the video, he was freeranging outskirts if new york until his 4 year old year. Then he was transferred to their facility and the guy pointed out that thanks to the controlled environment and matured skeletal structure, he jumped up 42 inches in antler growth that 4.5yr old year

[@MrJustin978]

I wonder if the antler size was boone and crockett? Anyone know???

[@cartersboxerandbulldogbabies]

Justin watch the dam video. He said Boone and Crockett several times.

[@chrishenicke2052]

Justin, yes

[@MrJustin978]

@@cartersboxerandbulldogbabies that's the point pal

[@cartersboxerandbulldogbabies]

Justin your fucking stupid. Watch the video

[@maineoutdoorsman677]

Oldest doe was 29 yrs

[@chrishenicke2052]

mini mycologist o don’t believe that....

[@alkehrer1986]

I tried to follow this is best I can but I have such dumbass neighbors that will not buy in. it's almost impossible to raise bucks like this where I hunt

[@jerlee620]

I’ve never seen a deer chloroformed before lmao

[@jjgriffin3275]

would nice to see you grow a NATURAL deer and food suppliment starting at 3 on.... track 5 different bloodlines of natural deer to see antler growth over the years!!!!!!

[@conflict7269]

Bone cancer did him sad at least he got some real good years in

[@chadbinette3201]

12 years is a pretty long life for a whitetail no? Farm or not, they get over 10 that's a success I'ld say.

[@missyhoward4607]

How old would a 26 inch 9 pointer be

[@DDHONLINE]

Hi Missy - it is not possible to age deer based just off of antler size or point configuration. Genetics plays the predominant role in antler size, and large antlers manifest with age. Bucks are fully mature when they are 4-1/2 years old, but some don't manifest true potential until they are 6-1/2 years old. Best, Dan Schmidt, DDH

[@herbeaversmels3633]

They gain an inch every year so 26

[@ProjectHuntBowhunting]

Realgrower u sure bout that 😂

[@notreleventinfo]

@@ProjectHuntBowhunting 26 year old deer lol

[@prancingdog]

*How dare you take that majestic creature from the wild and force it to live a long, and healthy life while you research it!* The nerve of you!

[@snugzgiddens3238]

What leads to an animal like this getting bone cancer?

[@baitcastersbroadheads2594]

Wow I might actually be a real hunter

[@TODDSIMON-xu6qf]

I miss this guy

[@fisherman2359]

Dam cancer everywhere

[@kzenn2000]

supplemental feeding monsanto corn....

[@douglassullivan5464]

Possible but something has to take you out! Nobody and nothing lives forever so whether you die from bone cancer or an abscessed tooth or some kind of infection it's going to die regardless I mean the deer was almost 13 years old how long do you expect a deer live?

[@kzenn2000]

@@douglassullivan5464 21 years

[@kzenn2000]

All mammals are capable of living 7 times the amount of years it takes to reach maturity except humans and animals we have domesticated . deer and dogs 3 years to mature times 7=21.

[@nickframe1508]

@@kzenn2000 Interesting, do you have a link where I can read more about that?

[@libertyBuilders]

Let em go till at least 4 1/2 it’s well worth it!!!

[@tyronesmith6921]

So what's the equivalent of his age to human at age 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 & 12?

[@Drew_Shoe5]

Tyrone Smith Same as dog years

[@justinmugele5742]

tf does B&C mean

[@DDHONLINE]

Boone & Crockett Club antler measuring standard.

[@twalls671]

I feel bad for him :(

[@jimcarden3809]

You can boil that rack all you want but it aint gonna taste any better

[@estelltabor4692]

They are really neat to look at. It’s not about eating.

[@EthanPDobbins]

Bigger deer = bigger meat. Proper aging and meat handling will keep it tender and delicious. Even a yearling can be tough and gamey if it is not aged at *least* through rigor mortis. For the best quality a deer should be aged below 40° Fahrenheit but above freezing preferably somewhere between 34 to 38 degrees for *seven* days. You can go longer up to 2 weeks depending on your equipment but seven gives the best bang for your buck and can be done in a cooler on top of ice with the water kept drained off, do not soak in water, or in a refrigerator. I prefer ambient temperatures whenever possible if it stays below 40 I will hang for a week with the hide on. Going through rigor converts the glycogen and stuff that causes gamey flavors into enzymes which tenderize the meat and the flavor changes for the better too.

[@williamcolejr7519]

What the best one shot and kill picture

[@wolfspiritoutdoors1484]

Y'all do realize deer don't get huge everywhere right? 😂 Down here in the swamp a 300 pound 160 inch buck wouldn't last an hour. As a biologist I'll say this if you target the biggest bucks with the best genetics smaller weaker bucks will breed your does leading to poor survival rates and eventually..no big bucks. Should be common sense..

[@anthonyramkissoon4629]

This is so sad

[@118Columbus]

Once you drop out of the rut, everything else goes! Deer are just like men. Stop the rut game next thing you know, you drop off dead from bone cancer. Keep the testosterone, stay in the rut, get the doe’s to left that white tail.

[@nevinsalvino6526]

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[@stevecanham198]

Just fill the freezer Charlie. You cant eat the antlers bud.

[@estelltabor4692]

The video is about understanding growth cycles. If you hunt for the meat try to remember you get more meat harvesting mature deer.

[@jacob-tl3is]

Than you let them walk and here the ranch over kill the buck? Take it or leave it knowing they will take it?…… to me they have no respect for the animal so I’d rather take it. But idk could be the pride talking. Angers me every time I let one walk to grow just to hear it get shot and not see it anymore