DDR5 at CL24! on the Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master

[@crf637]

Thanks for yet another great video! I'm currently running 6600-30-38-38-28-320-2T 1.5v on a Unify-X.

[@dvr1337]

I wonder why u all got away with 28.....all my kits never even accept below 42 at 7600mhz

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

first

[@daniele6676]

KEKW

[@joseperez-ig5yu]

Way to go!🥰

[@joseperez-ig5yu]

Great video BZ!😃 Very informative!

[@reviewforthetube6485]

Wow very cool incredible what you were able to do here tbh

[@cracklingice]

Interesting exploration. I was wondering what might happen with DDR5 if you were able to get a true 1 clock command rate and the timings as tight as the stick might allow. Though DDR5 controller may not even have such an option - and if it does, it's not better than JDEC or it'd be the default. Just interesting exploration for entertainment and discovery.

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

true 1T isn't possible on DDR5 because the DDR5 IMC seems to have no support for gear1.

[@cracklingice]

Figured it wouldn't exist. Would have been an interesting experiment if it did though.

[@jeremymoon9088]

The questions may be getting stupider as the channel grows, but young BZ deserves to have 10x the followers he currently has. Don't forget to share!

[@tjalve1]

Could you show how good this memory in this same setup could perform if you tuned it for max performance instead of lowest timings? I understand this configuration was bad, but it would help to understand how bad if you showed it’s best potential too.

[@yooanto9465]

I had this Motherboard just amazing can nott believe how good it is with 12900k artic freezer II 420 and kingston 32 gb. it also fix long stuttering problem I had in games I tried Msi z690 and asus z690 this Master is best.

[@25MHzisbest]

I'm slowly warming to DDR5. I'll be more interested when 7200mhz CL32 are mainstream. (Double the crucial ballistics 3600mhz CL16 kit, not too much to ask)?

[@Tomart0]

You'll have to wait a long time for that

[@25MHzisbest]

@@Tomart0 TeamGroup is doing CL40 @ 6400Mhz so it will be sooner than you think. Be interesting to see if the Intel 13th gen gets a updated memory controller as going over 6000mhz on 4 stick on 12th gen is a non starter.

[@LiveType]

I'm personally waiting until I can get ~100GB/s throughput for reasonable prices which should arrive in the near future, as your baseline seems around ~2 years away. Hopefully zen 4 will drop prices like skylake did back in 2016 for ddr4. Remember skylake? Seems so long ago.

[@25MHzisbest]

@@LiveType Ye, 7200mhz+ is the magic number for me. I've built PC'S for 25 years so seen it all lol.

[@DimkaTsv]

8:10 when you got distracted while playing it on full screen and thought that something got extremely wrong and you got BSOD or random reboot. . . My nerves, even though i know for sure my OC is stable

[@kelvinyonger8885]

AIDA is definetely usign L3 cache... 5200 MT/s only has a theoretical bandwidth of 83200 MB/s for 128 bit wide bus (2 ch).

[@narfsc2657]

I just realized that BZ is a timetraveler 29/03/2023.

[@jedi9577]

Hopefully Raptor Lake can do higher DDR5 frequency to minimize the impact of requiring gear 2. It would be nice if 7000+ daily was reasonable to do without the perfect IMC+RAM+mobo.

[@MrKentaroMotoPI]

It looks like they will if paired with a Z790 board. 7000? Dunno.

[@operator2618]

ty

[@oktaysalim1477]

Hi can i ask you for help i have msi z390 edge ac motherboard and I use to have 16 gb ram corsair 3000mhz xmp was working really good and I decided to buy another 16 with same timing same model and everything but now just won’t work with 4 sticks of ram I tried everything and it just sticks to 2133 please help me

[@Joao_Dario]

which version of mem tweak do you have ? link please ?

[@stuartlunsford7556]

I've pledged to not buy DDR5 until 6400 c28 or 8400 c32 are plentiful with xmp. Those kits should be very tunable and finally get us to latency parity with DDR4. With DDR5's other advantages, it will finally be the uncontested king.

[@goldnoob6191]

What's the point ? You've brought RAM twice the price having inferior perdormance just to be in touch with Intel's marketing department.. I thought bandwidth was all what we need as well as 640Kb of memory 🤔

[@collinbuckley3356]

is quad channel RAM a thing

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

2 sticks of DDR5 is quad channel because each stick has 2 memory channels, but each channel is 32bits wide. So it's not same as the quad channel you get on HEDT DDR4 CPUs like the 5960X, 7980XE, 2970X, 3970X which have 4 64bit wide channels.

[@yooanto9465]

No Kingston advice me to stick with 2 *16 gb or 2 *32 for best stability and gaming experience.

[@dvr1337]

Ddr6 is kinda done with developing in the background just saying. Wont take many years until they will release that aswell

[@dimwillow7113]

Here we go.. some low ddr5 stuff.

[@eriii276]

Dude that video was hella educational. Currently on B-Die 3800 CL14 @1.5V, trying to get subtiminigs as tight as possible. What do you say are the safe temps? What are the ideal temps? Greetings from Germany :)

[@wilkuuu4016]

DDR4 B-Die's after reaching 48c starts to be unstable in heavy every-day use.

[@AaronGoodTimes]

Am I dumb to want to get a ddr5-6000 64GB kit and expect similar performance to a 32GB in gaming and some video editiing?

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXixpqGHqp2rptU

[@mitlanderson]

@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking what about running 64GB 3800 (or 4000 if the IF can clock 2k) CL14 DDR4 4x16 on Ryzen? I've heard 4 dimm support is kinda spotty but can't find much information on it.

[@vladolaru9390]

Hi BZ, which ddr5 mem oc is better for daily? A 6200mhz c28-35-35-28 or 6600 c38-38-38-72?

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

are these XMPs? because those settings don't make any sense if they are manual OCs.

[@vladolaru9390]

@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking first example is kind of tweaked asus profile and second one is the fighest that my apex boot. Right now i am using 6200 mhz @ c 28-35-35-28 1T because i get very good latency which is good for gaming. Is that 6600 mhz better for gaming?

[@HOBBITSODYSSEY]

What mobo do you recommend for DDR4?

[@TheBackyardChemist]

ATI Radeon HD 3870 from ebay

[@marcogenovesi8570]

*ddr4 gddr4 is for GPUs

[@HOBBITSODYSSEY]

@@marcogenovesi8570 that's right ,my mistake

[@Wasmachineman]

@@TheBackyardChemist Preferably a Sapphire Atomic or ToXic.

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

any ASUS or MSI Z690 board will work well. MSI board generally have more features for a lower price.

[@FxpNtur64]

please please please can you help me to xmp my 128gb ddr5? i have aorus xtremez690 mobo and corsair ddr5 5600mhz cl40

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

on Gigabyte board 4x16 tops out at 5400. I have no idea how 4x32GB behaves. I don't have any 32GB dimms.

[@AliComputering]

its so harder when u use all of 4 slot each 32GBs with this frequency and CL and try to overclock and tighter timings in most Z690 DDR5 Boards u can see in spec they support only 4000 if single rank or dual rank DIMMs fill 4 slots! while 2 single rank can go up to 6666 in same mobo (Im talking in not OC mode) but even though always 4 stick make thing harder to get higher frequencies specially with low timings

[@TheGlobuleReturns]

But…… why?

[@Babtiista]

Yes but if with ddr5 5200 cl 24 you have better benchmarks scores and latency from stock xmp let's say 6000 cl 40 that means that you also faster right? So..not a good overclock but if you are faster from your reference-xmp speed with higher frequency and latency we will be better and faster right ?

[@mitlanderson]

Nope lol

[@PeterMarszalkowski]

That's why you use memory with low settings on limit switching no 16 gb sticks only simular 4 or 6 gigs to your drive tb timings then you make roms virtual cell ramdiscs eg 6gb to 24gb vr roms and use software to increase the memory you have in variety to 2,500 mhz 3000mhz or 2000mhz to load at the same time on a lot of application booster and to get the oc value 1000mhz per ram 1500mhz on 5500 6000 + so the windows system application is optimized for speed and with data ssd and memory on volts from 1.34 volt 1 ram to 1.74v 6xram 1.94v 8x ram if the stupid software would work properly you could use 16 cores all core 16 roms with memory that you can use at the same timecals connection to your memory via ssd and the higher your cpu is the higher your gpu is adjusted thanks to oc temp the higher, the faster and more effective low sticks run and give off more power at the same time with less divided more current, so single rams is so high weak sin sof tware weaksin because it's only designed to be thick and simple, it's a swanky bench speed, not multi to real core, real speed, real data from the system, bulshiit, that's ddr5 for me, you can buy it in the budget, they never have more effective ram, they're just unwise to optimize it test with a time delay after csek loaded let it run at the same time with full sin support nothing works that's why I drive fps data faster so easy low clocks are more efficient on higher voltage more ral dual boards that's too stupid too expensive to build nowadays not even 6 or 4 no 1 2 max ddr5 well no idea weak sin all programming software must be supported not slowed uploaded because the rams are too big only individually less is the point. stupid my opinion

[@andrewschmier6749]

holy run on sentence

[@Wasmachineman]

@@andrewschmier6749 tl;dr indeed

[@emini6]

Dang I'm early

[@goldnoob6191]

Still watching you (for 1 year already) struggling on DDR5 trying to proove it's a good setup 🙄 That's interesting anyway, you have good knowledge of those tec devices 🧐. Keep in mind that when it becomes on par with DDR4, if using the same manufacruring node, the later would be twice as fast.. Same goes for DDR3, DDR2, DDR1. What a waste of time driving an entire industrial sector for sake of geeks 😐

[@davthenub]

you're famous kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJTZZpmYlNRridU

[@mathieudeshayes4316]

Got way better performance with single rank DJR DDR4 5500 CL20-28-28-46-1T on Z690 A pro / 12600KF 🤏 x)