De La Hoya RESPONDS to Terence Crawford tweet & reacts to Showtime leaving boxing!

[@fighthub]

What do you make of Oscar's response to Crawford? Agree with him? SUBSCRIBE FOR MORE CONTENT!

[@SylentMilo]

I Agree

[@beezytalkingshit9319]

You didn't even post what Crawford said? So I can't agree with what Oscar said.

[@soleprobe]

fighters need to be at table so they cab see the true size of the pie, not the size told to them by the promoters.

[@1love926]

ill agree with oscar on this one, as i said on this one

[@jamesroan]

1. Best not fighting the best 2. Best fighters only fighting once a year 3. Too many belts 4. Too many promoters 5. Mediocre fight cards 6. Expensive PPVs 7. Bad score cards 8. Poor judges and referees 9. Corruption 10. Undefeated streaks These are the problems of boxing that needs to be fixed ASAP

[@freebrix8149]

This past year been the best year of boxing in a while. Hopefully there can be more good fights made next year.

[@cocknosedan]

Basically what Floyd Mayweather and Al Haymon did to start a trend.

[@markcoleman7246]

The only memorable fight I remember all YEAR is Crawford, thats it.😶@@freebrix8149

[@mr.brightside6576]

@@cocknosedan then clearly you got no clue if you say that cause floyd fought more current/former champions, hall of famers, number one ring ranked fighters and pound for pound fighters than any boxer....

[@o.d.b.5344]

​@@mr.brightside6576 You leave out the part how floyd picked and chose his fights in the perfect time and he put weight clauses on fighters/ always making his oponents fight at catchweights.

[@francisking1497]

Bring boxing back on local channel like back in the days

[@TheC130navigator]

I feel like KZbin should step in. PPV on KZbin could be very lucrative and they can promote their fights on their own platform for cheap cheap

[@kinghov3695]

Agreed

[@UppurMGMT]

I really don’t like Oscar at all but he speaks the truth at times.

[@blues204th4]

Same man. I don’t agree with his point, but business wise, I understand why he stands on that belief.

[@Lonelysportofboxing]

Oscar be trolling tf outta fans under his IG posts😂

[@Est93]

Why he ain’t say Munguia has to step up and fight all the top fighters Munguia is as protected as tank

[@Fred19711001]

I WILL LOVE TO SEE HBO BACK IN BOXING..

[@royal4l_]

Showtime going out of business because the best not fighting the best and the fans tired of the dumb ass money talk.

[@zairethinker]

thats on all networks

[@fairytaillsc5965]

Its Maweather fault ! .bcuz Mayweather make big money without fighting the best he earn big money without fighting the best as he .and thats the reason why boxers dont want to dight the best bcuz they follow mawether style .to not fight prime vs prime best of the best.

[@royal4l_]

@@fairytaillsc5965 when bob arum said he didn’t want pacquio to fight Crawford because he knew Crawford would destroy him was that mayweather fault ?

[@marcusking9277]

​@@fairytaillsc5965MAN GET OUT OF HERE WITH THAT DUMB ASS COMMENT EVERYBODY IS THEIR OWN MAN THAT'S LAME TO SAY SOME GOOFY SHIT LIKE THAT SMH

[@fairytaillsc5965]

@@royal4l_ whats the point? .. well that time bob arom is prtecting all his fighters .against legendary boxers like Pacquiao who always wants to make great fight action..but arum knows Pacquiao will retire bcuz he is old .and rhen arum needs new fighter to have influenced to make him big money in future.and he choose crawford then but failed.

[@RajaKhan-eu2jh]

1st time I heard oscar say something smart

[@CeezTheBeast24]

Why he left Ryan out when he mentioned Tank 😂

[@watermelonsprite1497]

ryan has never fought in ppv for showtime

[@JL-ix5io]

@@watermelonsprite1497 Was Davis/Garcia not on Showtime PPV?

[@CeezTheBeast24]

@@JL-ix5io lol right

[@sergmartinez9905]

hahah! thought the same

[@hushhunting8083]

He also left any of Floyd fights also 😂

[@sjohnson800]

He actually makes sense

[@jaraldhood155]

IM 50/50 ON OSCAR AND MY FAVORITE FIGHTER " BUD " ........ BOTH MAKE GOOD POINTS !

[@jonjon5665]

That's bc frm the tweets they had bck & forwth, both was right at the same time

[@mansoor9907]

The promoter of Mungia, Ryan Garcia and Zurdo Ramirez says Canelo need to step up and fight the big names 😂. I’m just nick picking, but this was a pretty solid interview.

[@MrJoelsotelo]

Canelo is the big name WTFYTA lol 😂

[@mansoor9907]

@@MrJoelsotelo, WTF are you trying to comprehend😂? That’s sarcasm for none of Oscar’s fighters I mentioned fought any big names. Ryan vs Tank was more of an exhibition match than anything. Who are the big names Zurdo and Mungia been fighting? Hopefully it was more clearer to you that time. Everyone and their mama knows Canelo been fighting the big names for over a decade

[@Tvoltage4391]

People always remember when one door closes another one opens.

[@Leo.Dunson]

De La Hoya is right, the biggest problem with boxing is all these boxers think they are promoters. Look at Terrence Crawford, he's one of the best fighters the world has ever seen and nobody barely knows who he is because he is, his own promoter. These guys needs to hire people like De la Hoya, all his boxers he has made MILLIONS. Same thing Eddie Hern.

[@JulieMayfield-tm9oi]

Man. Stop it. He wasn't his own promoter at first. He was getting screwed all them years.

[@brasstacksboxing409]

Ngl, I had withdrawals after HBO left the 🥊 realm. Showtime was always my 2nd choice, but guys like Larry merchant, max Kellerman, al Bernstein, teddy atlas, Roy Jones, Harold Lederman, and even Jim lampley are the voices to some of the best boxing I've seen. Sad day to see showtime gone now 2 😢

[@kushseti8842]

Everybody here insulting Oscar but please tell us what you have accomplished in your personal life? Most of you have Skeltons in your closet, Oscar is living a good life😂

[@Pamianu]

You must be his wife!

[@cesarprada5887]

@@Pamianuhe’s just being honest . You can hate on Oscar all you want but he’s made tons of money as an elite fighter n as a promoter . You can say this n that but you would jump at the chance to work with him . U know it’s true . Be honest u wouldn’t ?

[@Pamianu]

@@cesarprada5887 You must be his beeeatch.

[@Sacra-yk7lg]

​@@Pamianuhe probably helps put the kitchen utensils in

[@MrRaton25]

Not been a coke head lmao

[@JakeStewart1343]

Never thought DAZN would outlast showtime in boxing 🤔

[@berger8576]

Misfits provides huge numbers and money for them. Ksi did 1.3 mil in the uk buys and did a lot in the us and worldwide

[@trapL0rd]

Oscar doesnt seem like a guy you could take his word for 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@joshwick09]

Lol I always got that vibe from him

[@Est93]

Neither Al haymon he promised all his fighters mad money and fame like Floyd he promised showtime now they out of business and all his fighters have lost 😂😂😂😂 mfs only fight once a year

[@Est93]

The black man scammed a bunch of suckers again there’s a reason the con artist got ran out the music industry

[@kc006]

Hes a business man and a good one I believe 😁

[@dreammoves29]

Facts.

[@Lexman00]

What Oscar didn't want to mention was that the fans themselves, aka the consumers, don't want to pay for fights anymore, because they are tired of the ducking shit that makes them have buyer's remorse later.

[@AZ.BOT.]

Amen sick of being locked out of the sport I love unless I pay some stupid price or have to go to a bar and watch there

[@G-spookyk4zs]

Ppl always talk shit about dana white And how MMA fighters are underpaid. I agree, but boxers are definitely overpaid. That's why all these companies can't keep up.

[@armorplates8848]

Facts they know how to run a business not likw showtime pbc darn

[@Stephen-bq4nq]

Yep you got more money going out than you got coming in you're going broke

[@antoinemarous7308]

You’re ignorant. Boxing is bigger than showtime, HBO, Fox. You need to do your research bud

[@iampage2089]

Lol the ufc is a greedy company foh 😂

[@californio1850]

There's even less cross promotion in MMA where each promoter has their own belt instead of independent sanctioning bodies. MMA only works because the UFC has a monopoly but that won't work in boxing where you have too much talent from too many parts of the world. The more UFC grows, the more it's going to become fractured like Mighty Mouse Johnson being one of the best MMA fighters yet competing outside the UFC.

[@chrishayes5913]

Al Haymon is an adviser not a promoter

[@Stephen-bq4nq]

The problem in boxing is too many big fights not being made and too many fans illegally streaming draining the sport of money making the big fights financially unviable

[@tnsle000]

too many bullshit belts

[@Stephen-bq4nq]

@@tnsle000 yep that too

[@ThePugilistPodcast]

UFC proved having multiple promoters is an old model

[@simplymarvelous4983]

Facts,facts,facts this shit ain’t De La Hoyas fault Crawford doesn’t want to be realistic unless your a star and are willing to fight another star your not gonna get paid big time money especially with all the illegal streaming!If a star fights a nobody know one is gonna pay they’ll just stream it if it buffers a lil no big deal you know who’s gonna win anyways but if it’s to superstars fighting your gonna pay for it cuz you don’t want miss a second of it and that’s factory…

[@thomashoxx8672]

i quit livestreaming if price is more than 20 dollars for streaming.

[@kawabunga6889]

You can replace anything, but you can't replace Fighters lives, So Fighters need to get paid fairly for what they go through and don't get ripped off. Thank you Crawford for standing up and making a stand ❤

[@jeffgriscoa8131]

Unfortunately, every fighter is different because each fighter has to be paid differently based on what they’re worth, and the pay-per-view draws they bring.

[@TroyBell-cz8wg]

I love how he didnt say don king😂😂

[@rosscollinscreations1354]

PPV is an outdated and overpriced concept. Boxers need an association. And promoters are overly greedy like they the ones fighting.

[@tomtracks3007]

Much better response and thoughtful interview than his buddy Hopkins did haha!!

[@AlejandroGarcia-xq1mt]

Boxers without a promoter wouldn’t even make it to the B side a promoted hold their hand for them to become famous. Now they feel they can run their own show. Unacceptable this is why boxing is dying.

[@deryckcarrington564]

Crawford didn't even say not to get a promoter, he said that the boxers need to be at the table. They both seem to agree partially, the only difference is that Oscar doesn't think that the boxer should be at the table.

[@bobbytaelhr]

With out boxers, promoters have no job

[@freebrix8149]

If boxers was at the table maybe we would get more of the fights we want

[@AlejandroGarcia-xq1mt]

@@bobbytaelhr and without promoters there is no boxing this is why boxing is dying look showtime is exiting boxing.

[@soleprobe]

fighters need to be at table so they cab see the true size of the pie, not the size told to them by the promoters.

[@edgarsixtos3781]

Why is showtime leaving boxing?

[@xgengx7530]

Oscar de la Coca!

[@mmarioescareno]

I appreciate the way Oscar held back from blaming Al Haymon at the end of that interview

[@Lexman00]

Fuck that, people need to get called out, or nothing changes.

[@HiltonManassas]

i respect some of the things Oscar said its coming from experience like him or hate him.

[@FaithManaka-uc7hz]

I’m glad they did give us big fights before especially this year

[@joemack2668]

Oscar can’t judge other ppl ability to do what he couldn’t

[@carlosgarcia7778]

This dude just can't get over not having canelo under contract 😂😎

[@luisalbertocarrillobacab9896]

Canelo what? Jealous Oscar. Can't thrust him

[@CaptainMarvel007]

Don’t agree that boxers should just delegate to their promotor to take care of business. At the end of the day is the boxer who’s putting themselves in harms way and they should have as much say in the negotiations as everyone else that is sitting at the table.

[@Stephen-bq4nq]

To have a seat at the table you need business sense and not all fighters have that. Plenty of talented athletes go broke

[@CaptainMarvel007]

Those boxers that lack the business acumen can bring someone within their circle of people to the negotiations.

[@cooleyhigh3405]

Boxing is a one man game, the hurt game, and everything is a learning process. Let the boxers sit at the table to learn the business unless you're hiding something

[@AbesCreditPointers]

I don't know if you noticed but it seems like many boxers do get to pick who they fight and not fight lmao and it's a big reason boxing is low in views and Ufc is not. Boxers get paid bank but ufc fighters don't but ufc has clearly more control. End of day you fight with their platform so yeah stfu and fight. PEOPLE like floyd and conor are different bc they built that name. Floyd made people want him to lose. Conor did as well. Crawford will never have that aura and that is on him. He just isn't like floyd personality wise.

[@hisgrace956]

So in other words, "NOW THAT SHOWTIME IS NO MORE".........COME TO DEATH ROW. in my Suge Knight voice 😂

[@curtisfrierson5596]

I'll never forget years ago, maybe way back in the '80s or the '90s, I heard a Promoter say, the downfall of boxing is going to be fighters who are getting paid so much money, to the point where they're not going to be forced to fight as often, and they still make a far, far, above the average living... Promoters sued by claiming Al Haymon was paying fighters too damn much money, right? From a LONG-TERM SUCCESSFUL business perspective, now I've come to realize that what those Promoters were saying about fighters getting paid too damn much, has turned out to be a really valid argument... Recently, as a 64 year old life long boxing fan, I'm thinking that maybe a key reason why HBO was forced out of the boxing business, and now why Showtime has been forced out of the boxing business.. I can't help but wonder if it's partly because of just a FEW fighters who got paid so damn much money like Floyd in the previous era, and now like Cinderello and others in this modern era... Surely, no 60 days of training leading up to less than one hour worth of work in the world is worth over $5 million dollars.. Hell just a proceeds from just one or a couple of $5 million purse fights, that's properly invested in cryptocurrency can easily make these guys TENS of Millionares over just the next 10 to 15 years, or long before the typical retirement age... In other words, maybe Dana White is a far better businessman, from a LONG-TERM perspective than the average boxing Promoter in the modern era, because Dana keeps his fighters at a much lower pay limit, rather than paying just one or two fighters a ton of money... Boxing Promoters will come out way better by doing what Top Rank is doing by paying the top fighters a decent amount per fight and having a whole bunch of a far, far above average living, while having a bunch of those up and coming fighters on the roster, to keep boxing GROWING forward... That way they can put on a lot more fights in a lot of different midsize venues on every State between them all, and that'll help keep on building up the Sport of Boxing.. Isn't that what the NBA, the MLB, and the NFL do, by them having all these college teams , high school teams, and even Pop Warner Leagues in almost every City and in every State, all around the Country? It's almost like they all are farm teams looking to find the very bes potential PRO players... Another thing I think for motors are going to have to do is something similar to what BLK Prime did and what the zone are doing They going to have to figure out a way to be able to put their fights on their own app and build up a fan base around their fighters who are willing to pay a monthly subscription fee to see all their fights that they put on in all the different venues all around the country during the month, for a small monthly fee, We should be designed around what it would take The pay for safe 10 regularly scheduled fights per month... And even include amateur fights where the local fighters in all these different cities and towns and states can be highlighted on the app as if they're on TV... That's guaranteed to explode the subscription base is all these parents and grandparents and aunts and uncles want to see their kid and promote their kid fighting as if on TV by them all paying for a small monthly... Either way you figure it out the people in charge of boxing when I have to come up with another business plan because putting fights on pay-per-view charging $100 and only a few fighters getting the vast majority of that money That's not a winning, LONG-TERM business plan.. AND ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GET THOSE FEW FIGHTERS LIKE FLOYD AND DEVIN HANEY ALWAYS WANTING TO FLASH THE BLING LIKE THEY GETTING RICH AND LIKE FLOYD TALKING ABOUT HE ROBBING THE BANK... WHO WANT TO SEE AND HEAR THAT KIND OF 💩🐂 WHEN THEY'RE BEING FORCED INTO PAYING $100 FOR ONE MOSTLY BORING FIGHT NIGHT...🎤💣💥💨🤷🏿‍♂️💯

[@frankthetank4101]

He's being trying to cross paths so the best can fight the best.

[@Deiios]

Tip : time mark things . I only want to hear the response to Crawford

[@venanciomartinez2574]

No good they’ve sparred before. Just lost interest in the fight

[@motsy15]

Bud is right, but he doesn’t realize that as long as there is so much money involved it’s gonna be crooked no matter who runs it. If fighters ran it themselves it wouldn’t change. The rich successful fighters would run it for themselves just like promoters do now. It won’t change

[@mrshawterry6]

Make all the coke not funny jokes you want to about this man, he was a hell of a fighter at 19, and he's right, the best fight the best, he sure did, he was fighting at the era where a very good fighter could lose that night, it's man fighting in today's boxing on the internet, it's good Showtime locked out boxing, why would they have pay per view fights for only 1 or 2 good fights, and the rest clown shows?

[@mikeblack1050]

Streamers control these greedy companies lol, now they see

[@kenkenichi7461]

Crawford shut em down

[@doncicero7833]

Too many of the "best" fighters in the world ducking eachother, bad match ups that look "good" on paper, fighters too comfortable with the directions their promoters with the guidance their careers. The best fought the best

[@raulcitraro]

Listen, They created 17 categories per boxing-sanctioning body, and if you multiply that by five - (WBA, WBC, WBF, WBO, and the IBF), we end up having 85 Champions. They have created a system similar to a junk fast-food business; the more crap they sell, the more they earn...

[@hmoney14]

They need to chill out wit the unessercary belts and maybe cut down on a few weight classes

[@bigfloter]

Yeah Showtime they do a great job any new how to properly pick the fights and I loved Showbox the new generation and they had gave new Talent a great chance to show their worth in my opinion either DAZN taking up all the boxing stuff or HBO boxing is coming back hence why Max Kellerman left ESPN

[@Ivan-xc3sm]

It going digital means easier to fake how many people are acting watching and how much the fight actually made.

[@mainygnac]

*compliments to the music industry*

[@jesusdiaz-g8z]

DAZN has the opportunity to putt all of the camps under one house

[@antoinemarous7308]

Not going to happen. Amazon is about to take over boxing. Do your research

[@keithdavis9633]

True

[@Stephan2P]

We still have Top Rank, ESPN.

[@oz20582]

Bring HBO back

[@MasterMind-py2nk]

Marcos did you listen to Curtis Mayfield yet?

[@mr.ak4780]

Oscar vs Logan paul 😂😂😂

[@ogflash4254]

He forgot to mention his own fighters that have been fighting journeymen their whole career 😂

[@sleepyswan]

Proboxtv will prosper in the long run how they doin it

[@toneydefreitas5630]

I'm on crawford's side...crawford has exhibited far better judgment during his life n career than Oscar...so whose judgment would u agree with right now?? If ur judgment is sound that is.

[@jesusarreguin-sw6mi]

Bud has few fans. even his people talk crap about him. He aint worth what he thinks.

[@simplymarvelous4983]

I’ll take the side of a guy that came from nothing out of East LA to be worth 300 million

[@pdubhnic]

It's time to make a boxing league.

[@mufc7753]

Actually agree with him.

[@AbdulAziz-mu6kq]

I get what De Le Hoya saying

[@GetEmEdd]

The real reason is illegal streaming of fights lol they don’t have to say we know.

[@oxymoron9081]

📌 What is supposed to say when he’s a promoter! 😂😂😂

[@simplymarvelous4983]

Plus the fact that’s it’s unrealistic what Crawford wants unless he’s gonna put up his purse if the fight doesn’t make a profit and we know that ain’t happening so fight the best fighters and get a substantial purse that’s guarantee or keep complaining fight nobody’s and hundreds of thousands or maybe a couple million but nothing close to what de la Hoya use to make

[@Stephen-bq4nq]

HBO and Showtime are gone people better hope DAZN doesn't leave all that will be left is ESPN to carry the sport

[@antoinemarous7308]

Nope. Amazon is coming soon!👌🏽

[@Stephen-bq4nq]

@@antoinemarous7308 yes but they will only be there as long as it makes financial sense

[@hmoney14]

​@@Stephen-bq4nqhence they gon clean up the sport

[@ChewyChoppers]

De La Hoya says “if Ryan Garcia wins the fight” WTF 😳 💯

[@dizlahdullah]

OD gets oded and also he ruined boxing now he thinks he was the savior lol

[@mariomadyun1798]

Maybe Amazon gets involved but yea maybe those fighters might have to fight each other. You Joshua v Otto, when Wilder & Miller in the same room. Still got Dazn

[@JL-ix5io]

He said "and Tank" lol, damn

[@OrlandoGomez-ws8ui]

Crawford should fight boots next I would like to see that fight👍

[@KingKOTheGreat]

OSCAR DE LA FISHNETS

[@Barlito39639]

Bru really said this could be fight of the year 🤣

[@Payaso_Boxing]

PBC. Ruined Show time. They were paying big bucks to boring fighters, no offense, but the African-American fighters were taking over show time events, they are sooooo boring to watch. Boots Enis, being his top fighter, is boring. Gervonta fighting small guys. Amd so many others, that I don't even remember because they are not worth it. Show time fogot that Mexican guys gave them the big audience, just to mention , Marquez vs Vazquez. Castillo vs Corrales. Not any African-American, has been in a fight like that. They are soooooo boring to watch. No body wants to see fight oshàqui Foster, unless in vs a Mexican , which is his next fight.

[@dafightdoc8836]

The promoters don't have the luxury of a network that will cover the production and promotion of the events. He is delusional. He won't day. Just like Steven Espinoza would not say. Oscar is lost. He doesn't have an answer. It cost too much to produce boxing. Simple as that. HBO called this years ago.

[@IamChucky_]

Call Oscar what you want but dude is a smart businessman. He’s done both and has the experience. I get what Crawford is saying but dude is not very business savvy.

[@simplymarvelous4983]

It’s not even close guy from East LA worth 300 million make all the jokes you want about him just remember 300 million

[@JakeStewart1343]

Bud has to be one of the most underpaid boxers of all time for his talent and market condition he's in. A+ Boxer D- Business Savy

[@jjtoosmooveYt]

If they Broadcast then someone else will. Get that money 💴

[@yanassi]

Point a finger at yourself, promoters and fighters wanting so much money they no longer have a need to fight more than 1 fight a year and the fights they choose avoids losing which lessens negotiations on futures. It’s the business of business is the narrative, even if it kills boxing.

[@mikenite8713]

De La Hoya is sounding good.

[@peterthegreat100]

Promotion companies aligning with different networks fucked up boxing. Boxing is ran like pro wrestling now, we never get the absolute best because neither sides are willing to work together.

[@kingwest342003]

All promoters should go to DAZN

[@Eric-be6yv]

Oscar looks high on blow again

[@isidrogonzalez9451]

Well. As they say. Is a wisdom’s thing of mind changing. The stubborns would always be stubborn. Now he wants to work with Eddie Hearn. 😂

[@SpeedyGonzales50]

Worst promoter in boxing.

[@pdiddybox4484]

And you watched all their promoted fights😂 U probly even had ppv partys at your house when Golden boy had cards yak yakity yak broham

[@JoseRodriguez-tx1pt]

oscar is very smart

[@sorrynotsorry5589]

Too many hands in the pot has always been the problem with professional boxing! Maybe "Street Beefs", or back yard boxing will be the future!? 😆

[@ssenyangekhalid6533]

😂😂

[@krissiskloset1177]

The Mexican Don King 😂

[@mastermindz50]

PREMIER BOXING CHANNEL COMING SOON !!! 😂😂😂

[@Dayz95]

To many boxers with padded records ... To many promotions... Making shit fights with good money for fighter fair enough ( not all ) but no legacy fights and for the fans either or for themselves. Just cant walked like a dog 👍

[@NYvandal]

He's soooo zapped here smh no shame 😂😂😂

[@donhuan4283]

Coked out the game

[@PumasRigo1]

Hes only pushing for that cause all his fighters need to go across the street to get a good fight

[@xavierperez779]

He ‘a right get all promoters back or let mayweather make a boxing channel

[@twinlif3956]

Boxing needs a Rich Paul for the boxers

[@marioreyes9693]

We need Dana White in boxing.

[@Kizzy_pop]

I never listen to this guy and get the feeling of loyalty to DAZN. He should be let go before he bankrupts them.

[@tyson2833]

Blame jake paul and Logan Paul boxing is over soo is MMA

[@Joey-10]

Nope! Oscar you are Wrong. Canelo is the only ONLY ONE! Doing his job. It’s on you guys! Canelo has his plans and EVERY ONE, CLEAN YOUR OWN MESS!! SPECIALLY CRAWFORD, fk it lol

[@BigFactz66]

Says the guy who continues to match Munguia with Bums...

[@haze_the_alchemist1123]

All of a sudden crawford after the spence fight has become type annoying. He wont shut up.

[@leemunoz9617]

Canelo HAS done that. GB fighter Munguía is the one who has fought NOBODY and will continue to flounder but get overpaid by DAZN

[@Compton710]

The Saudi need to buy boxing them mfs be pissing money like crazy they need to buy everyone off and start from scratch