Dead Internet Theory, The Internet Is Empty | Esoteric Internet

[@Kodeb8]

The original dead internet theory thread was not from 4chan's /x/ board, it was from wizchan! I was there when it was posted.

[@golanoski1]

Where and how can i learn more about this? Stumbled on a thread about it on voat Tonight and am extremely curious to learn more about gpt-3 and more proof of concept.

[@papalegba6759]

there was an article passed round the US state department back in 2017 saying pretty much the same thing. it's old news to those in the know.

[@dangerjoe8911]

@@emtee9057 4chan but for virgins only.

[@abointedtoyblingofmats]

@@papalegba6759 source?

[@papalegba6759]

@@abointedtoyblingofmats it's been 404'd. matt chessen wrote it, google him.

[@zach123101]

"The internet is dead" :( "Nobody killed it, which is good" :) "But it's also undead" :o "Which is bad" :(

[@arempy5836]

But it comes with a free frogurt

[@zach123101]

@@arempy5836 :(

[@MalcolmsShow]

just be glad Sylvanas isn't in charge, otherwise we'd really be in the shit

[@ananimeprofile5191]

[Thud sound insert]

[@AlexR2648]

@@arempy5836 that's good!

[@sonneedswater4539]

I personally see it as the “quiet internet” the real/living part is us, things created by the individual, then there’s the loud internet, ads, bots, algorithms etc etc. There’s still a lot of us but it’s overshadowed by the “machines” but eventually, the dead internet theory will be true and even sadder, once we get far enough most KZbin comments will be bots and eventually all of them

[@m-bronte]

the algorithm will be measuring the bot rather then the human, perhaps that is not a bad thing.

[@rasmussyrjala1370]

You arr a bot too, I know it! Stop trying to fool me algoritms!!!

[@Russian_engineer_bmstu]

Can confirm, even I am a bot! Imagine what will happen in a decade

[@TheCagamerda]

The average user doesn’t produce any content it is in a more passive/consumeristic stance, that’s why you only see a fraction of your friends/subscribed users content on social media. Fear of being rediculed, exposed creates a sense of restraint over our posting habits

[@Esirre]

on a much smaller (and less important scale) idk if anyone here remembers Yahoo chat as a teen in the late 90s - mid 2000s/aughts, more and more bots started appearing until eventually 99% was all bots

[@karqz666]

The part about fetishization of "update for the sake of update" above logic and user comfort is spot on. The most recent Facebook layout update for PC comes to mind especially.

[@ferrisbueller9991]

I never update my iPhone. Partially not caring, partially paranoid since Apple was caught slowing old models down purposefully with them. I don't trust apple. We are headed towards the grim reality of AI's allure of granting us Godhood. Eve took from the Tree of Knowledge to become more like God. She took the apple. Semi convinced Steve Jobs was self-aware with this little cute naming. Apple may just be the next Apple. We'll repeat the Original Sin.

[@JoeSpaccacacchi69]

lamenters best chapter

[@ShadowPhoenix82]

This is exactly why my mother hates technology. She feels she can never learn it because it's always changing just after she figures it out. I can't wait to watch this with her.

[@bobdole27]

But when you think about it thats the current paradigm of humanity, progress for the sake of progress but never asking what are we progressing into

[@Michael-rk9iw]

@@bobdole27 Its not progress for the sake of progress. Its middle managers try to advance their careers, throwing spaghetti at a wall until something sticks and hoping for recognition.

[@HexStickman]

I just recently finished an information systems course that was taught by a dude that didn't really understand how the internet works anymore, mainly basing the course on systems that died over a decade ago. It was interesting to hear him explain how the internet and information might "advance" in the future, knowing that he probably wrote his lectures 15 years ago. The net has been cannibalized for the sake of convenience, and I wonder where exactly the logical conclusion to all this ends up.

[@piotrgrzelak2613]

I'd like to hear that lecture, what were some of his examples?

[@jaylenpeoples6517]

​@@piotrgrzelak2613i wonder what he predicted?🤔

[@PhilipIIofMacadamia]

I can see 5 "megalopolis" sites, maybe 6. But one for socials, one for government, one for health, one for education, and one for entertainment. Totally curated by AI and controled BY the creators of said AI, the highest bidder, and possibly a 1 government. Idfk im just spitballing, i grew up on web 1.0, web 2.0 was a flash in the pan (apprently were still in it? Doesnt feel like it), and web 3.0 is horrifyingly empy. Web 4.0 is going to be... interesting

[@piotrgrzelak2613]

@@PhilipIIofMacadamia one government is dead in the water, US is clearly falling in status if not falling apart this decade

[@damdibidum]

One example of this: I remember when google stole the internet by leveraging ''convenience'' and then using rich snippets to basically make all internet yield information to them. Now the website that used to be frequented to find information in gives the information up for free to google with a chance to be favored in positions, but 99% of the people who use the information get it on Google results on top, without ever even visiting the website where this information is. They give props to google, without giving props to the authors.

[@hardlo7146]

I think the internet died when it became mainstream, around the time smartphones became publicly available. Prior to this the internet, computers, and geek culture as a whole was the realm of nerds, who were often looked down upon or at least seen unfavorably. Once everyone, even your grandma, began using the Internet, corporations moved in, bought everything or made replacements for everything, thus monopolizing it, sanitized it, and then monetized it, leading to the "dead" feeling of nowadays internet. I mean 10 years ago I had a ton of forums I used to browse, nowadays all but one are dead, and all those people either moved on or flocked to Reddit.

[@reck0n3r]

Exactly. And this phenomenon seems to impact all aspects of human life. If we consider when anything becomes mainstream, it seems to die/loses its creative or living aspects. Zombies ruin everything. Movies, video games, music, literature, science, religion, spirituality...pretty much everything. Seems like all those zombie/vampire apocalypse stories were trying to tell us something.

[@dursty3226]

i think you're onto something here! the internet used to be a place you'd have to *go* to (eg "i'm going to turn on the computer and go online"), but because of phones, the internet has become our permanent residence. edited to add: and because of the prevalence of phone-based internet instead of computer-based internet, websites that developed phone apps were able to survive, whereas those that still depended on being a website wasted away because mobile browsing feels bad.

[@gregoryblack8109]

Yup, nerd culture has been mainstream for a long while. Being counter culture is to stay off of the internet

[@omgjimmyboy]

Yeah the internet was for people like us. The normies ruined it and their own lives. They were happier without the internet now they’re all depressed. Now we’re depressed because they’ve taken the internet from us and we have nowhere to go

[@DennisMHenderson]

🌈Fiction 👨🏽‍🦼 but at least you got to tease yourself into believing you could manufacture a victimhood

[@TheGamedragon96]

I'm surprised you found an interesting topic on /x/ between all the threads asking how to summon succubuses.

[@123495734]

I managed to create a thicc succupussy sucks to be you nonbeliever

[@Pseudiom]

I bet the Bots are the one posting the succubus threads. They're not very good at it.

[@arempy5836]

*Succubi

[@moltengarnet]

I was thinking the exact same thing

[@houseofflambeau9656]

I could point the OP’s on /x/ in the right direction. All they’d need is my ex’s phone numbers.

[@georgewilson7432]

"I am not a number, I am a person!" Said Number 6.

[@Pseudiom]

"That would be telling. We want information..."

[@Captain1nsaneo]

"Then he must no longer be referred to as Number Six or a number of any kind. He has gloriously vindicated the right of the individual to be individual... and this assembly rises to you... Sir."

[@kobold7466]

"ha what a conspiracy theory, get us a peer reviewed (by us) research paper (made by us) proving this"

[@ourselvesandourposterity2404]

In one episode, they called him by something else- another number? IDR- and he kept insisting, "I am NUMBER 6!"

[@naiknaik8812]

holy shit the prisoner reference

[@WrestlingColin]

A lot of us feel this, but can’t quite put our finger on that feeling. Or we’re just afraid to name it. Almost everyday I think to myself “wow, I only know 4 websites now”

[@edselgreaves6503]

Another scary thing is, I need to type "Reddit" at the end of my Google search keywords if i want actual opinions otherwise its just the same regurgitated groupthink that Google "curates" for us to see for 3000 pages.

[@Conejoazul2018]

I really miss websites that were made from the ground up not by an company but an single or at least small group of people....

[@gildedpeahen876]

All those geocities and angelfire blogs, little family pages or totally obscure for obscurities sake pages

[@w花b]

So it's just nostalgia taken to the extreme?

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

​@@gildedpeahen876obscurity for the sake of obscurity sounds a awful

[@gildedpeahen876]

@@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 I think it only seems like it’s for obscurity’s sake from the outside, the people who made those pages weren’t being edgy or quirky (like everyone on the internet today)

[@gildedpeahen876]

@@w花b it’s only nostalgia if you feel nostalgic about it. These pages were 100% real.

[@andrewjohnson5307]

"A fascinating if extreme idea" I'm pretty sure that's what 4chan is there for.

[@Pseudiom]

Call a duck a duck.

[@andrewjohnson5307]

@@Pseudiom I don't know what you meant by this, and I'm a bit afraid to ask...

[@j.2512]

4chan is suffering the most of this actually. Like 90& of content at any given momment is just botnets shilling, spamming and opening the same threads

[@webmaristocrat4052]

Just apply /r9k/'s bot in every board. There, bot problem solved :^)

[@RavemastaJ]

@pippin Nobody goes to /po/ on purpose. The week of April 1st on 4chan, when they made /mlpol/ for an entire week...shills vanished. All the automated traffic in two boards simply ceased functioning, and pure autism was unleashed. Good times.

[@tubeguy4066]

I remember when I was on a thread on 8/k/ once and someone responded with something like "What the Hell?" and posted a link to a forum. It was some old random gun forum from years ago, but it was the exact same thread and exact same 30 replies were copied from there and posted on the thread on /k/. Very strange.

[@tsjoencinema]

I came across a site that just copied everything posted on 4chan. Almost real time. I wonder what the reason would be. Maybe archival purposes?

[@swolejeezy2603]

@@tsjoencinemaThat’s possible, 4chan’s whole thing is that they archive nothing

[@SJursa-ey4tt]

those who know ;) those who dont know >' |

[@Someone_s_nick2]

​@@tsjoencinemaBetter if it wouldnt archive some post about ceratin jar project

[@SusejFTW]

spoopy@@SJursa-ey4tt

[@thebreakfastmenu]

I remember a time when everyone would come home from school, get on Myspace, MSN Messenger, and talk. Now that everyone has smart phones in their pockets that light up when someone messages mean that few people are "on the internet" for long hours like they once were, aside from scrolling tik toks during downtime at work. I've definitely seen the same people in different corners of the internet many times and thought "small world." Sometimes I pop onto Omegle to try to relive the good old days of typing at a computer, but "The Inversion" seems to have definitely occurred there, spamming genuine users with CAPTCHAs while the majority of connections made are bots.

[@omgjimmyboy]

I remember those days spending hours on my desktop jumping from MySpace, aim, old KZbin, yahoo answers, Starcraft, gamefaqs, rpgamer, and some website where I downloaded music whose name I can’t even remember.

[@scrittle]

I'm pretty sure it's intentional. I'll put my phone down during the day and I'll get no notifications, but the moment I put it down to sleep at 11/12/1/2/3 IT ALWAYS VIBRATES over a notification I got a few hours ago. This people is why my phone is on silent, because Google notifications are horrible.

[@thykota]

Whatever distress this video would have caused on me vanishes completely when I remember I have real people in the real world to interact with

[@teddyhibberd8254]

This should be the final point made in this video, because although this theory is suspiciously accurate, that doesn’t change our ability to interact with others in a meaningful way.

[@dadgonewild381]

I started using the www in 1994. I have noticed that it has become totally dull. Now, I rarely use it anymore, I usually just go Amazon. Or a government site if I need to renew my driver's license or whatever). Similarly, I started using social media from, the start. I immediately found social media to be full of opinions and negativity (but very profitable).....boring. Last, btw, I only find myself using messaging apps on my phone and youtube when i am bored. Your vid explains why i no longer find the web interesting. Now I know! Thx

[@ristovaltorez4740]

Same

[@Ornithopter470]

Amazon is on the web. So is KZbin. Unless you're talking about searching for something new on Google, you absolutely use the Internet regularly.

[@brandya.g.1401]

It’s so boring! I find myself reverting to watching old cinema and reading books (with a mild sprinkling of KZbin vids)

[@wolfetteplays8894]

@@Ornithopter470shut up bad faith actor, watching KZbin and using government funded social media aren’t the same

[@Ornithopter470]

@@wolfetteplays8894 what are you on?

[@ClockworkGearhead]

What's the difference between "dead" and "corporatized?" Exactly.

[@bearsausage8599]

He’s trying to say mundane

[@RedColdRitsu]

every time I look at the comments/replies on a WWE tweet, every single checkmark is just people going “wow” “amazing” “so cool” sometimes it’s the same person tweeting them. I’m convinced those are actual, literal bots.

[@LukeBiggs-o3g]

WWE and other sports forums are the worst for bots. Also politics. I can’t tell you how many times I have seen the same generic comments on WWE pages, worded the exact way, same punctuation and grammar. On the plus side, it’s a great time to be a wrestling fan!

[@ricardomiles2957]

These titles is the reason why I'm subscribed, in a KZbin where all the famous mysteries are covered and resolved, you take the most obscure and unthinkable things ever that makes me glue my eyes to the very end. Never stop, or rather don't stop being interesting

[@Pseudiom]

Always try my best to introduce people to something new.

[@finn9000]

Look how KZbin shorts are all bots posting random shit

[@LukeBiggs-o3g]

Anything with an AI voiceover is a bot with AI generated content. I try to not watch shorts anymore for this and many other reasons

[@TheKnizzine]

Hanging out on that one forum ive been on since like 2008ish is deperssing it feels like a retirement home where the few active users left are just waiting around for eachother to die and half the active users seem like they are just people argueing with their own alts. Reddit is alive and kicking though...

[@cleantoad4332]

Try another forum then. You'll find something you enjoy.

[@God_is_Justice]

Reddit is terrible and very evil masked as good

[@SeanWinters]

@@God_is_Justice This is true. This weekend nearly every other post was about the "evils" of banning child murder.

[@watchcynthiag391]

Reddit is the worst. Worse than ig. It's just bots and paid trolls.

[@watchcynthiag391]

@@SeanWinters they also banned the women's forums. Once they started banning certain beliefs, I knew it was over.

[@linkebens4819]

There was a story on the news a few years ago where they talked about how p.c. and Mac would pull up searches on the same thing if related to selling stuff for stores and such. What they figured out was that mac would pull up the same content yet for a higher price than the same search did on p.c.. kinda supports the theory in the video.

[@DelmiraVesna]

When internet was accessible to a few people who could afford a PC, it was the best- no ads, creative, mysterious. One night of browsing per week felt amazing. Now it feels like you are sucked into an empty useless void.

[@bulletghost3452]

Good video, I do believe that the internet has become very empty in terms of content and even interaction so I agree with your term "Labotomized" because it just feels like there should be more. I remember so much outrage when google+ became a thing and then the norm which gave me a dread of how the future for social media would be like, which I guess was right then.

[@hotpocketbagel]

lobotomized

[@scrittle]

Don't forget the Twitter/Reddit protests that lead nowhere with users crawling back because they feel lost without it. When a megacorporation becomes a dependency, it's over... They won.

[@cfuendev]

I love how this is slowly becoming our reality. It used to sound like a creepypasta theory to give you spooky existential dread.. Now you just look at news in AI and thr algorithm, look at the current state of social media, and the internet is slowly dying.

[@buddhazorro5925]

OMG this is true…the same stories, year after year…the same “breaking news” again and again. We are stuck in a loop…and it’s stupid and perverse. Lovely

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

It's _always_ been that way.

[@Encumberedmetaphor]

Something happened circa 2009. I was running an activist website as a personal hobby before it received some negative attention freeom savvy, elusive factions. Anyway, I have since given up on the effort as the time and technical commitment became greater than I had patience for. The main takeaway is that during a period of impending crisis, deepening paranoia and chaos with the whole swine flu (2009 H1N1) outbreak, the WHO was on the verge of announcing global pandemic alert level 5. I was covering the play by play on my website. Then *POOF* nothing happened and no one seemed to talk about it ever again. Most people missed it, but exactly the same time a 5000+ force of Mexican Federales were entering Juarez to confront the menacing cartel situation.... That too was never talked about again.... The Google news search algorithms never worked the same again. There seemed to be a massive sterilization effort of the Internet. Things just have never been the same since... 😢😮😢 ... "When Pigs Fly..." oO

[@antediluviancatharsis6796]

There are many more such cases of niche (albeit important) purported happenings via news sources which have been expunged or 'rabbit holed'. Old site pages, hosts, along with the blogs who often shared and implored their own comments and takes often on either dubious or even seemingly conspiratorial happenings went along. This is beyond any conjecture or hysteria of boredom as some sensationalist influencers would regurgitate.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

Huh? The 2009 swine flu outbreak _was_ a level 5 pandemic. WHO announced it and everything. It sounds like you were expecting some kind of apocalyptic event but your prediction didn't pan out. That's certainly not the first time someone expected the apocalypse and didn't get it.

[@mynameisben123]

Number 1 is ridiculous. There’s an easy explanation: people just lose interest in hobbies or interests. It happens in real life all the time. I might move and stop going to the same pub I always went to - the people I knew there will probably never know why I disappeared. But I just moved.

[@MaitreMark]

yep, I stopped using facebook one day, then a year or two later I deleted my account.

[@Max_Marz]

Do you feel strange that you made this video right before AI exploded?

[@kylehill3643]

23:39: At all of Dad's work places the majority of people don't even use a computer anymore. The few that have one have it in the closet and just use their phone for social money stuff.

[@retsz]

Now THIS is why i like this channel. I've genuinely never heard this theory, and that's something i can say about most of the content posted. Keep it up!

[@hdckighfkvhvgmk]

"only anime is exempt from this" aaaaand any shred of believability and intrigue is now gone.

[@MadDoodles]

The original post has some wildly out of pocket stuff like this, and I wouldn’t cite it, but I think there’s definitely something to be said for the number of bots and now AI generated content on the web these days. And the overall sanitisation of the net.

[@davidalangay1186]

The age of the BBS, which preceded the Internet was more full of life. Every BBS had its own look and feel and people knew each other in that community because of the BBS meets. What I wouldn't give to go back to those days.

[@shane5896]

The Dead Internet Theory is an eventuality... an inevitability if you will.

[@noobsfansub]

To be fair it's hard to read every word when you have to read someone's life story and brand loyalty on every recipe posted online.

[@joemamr710]

It lost me at point one, of course people disappear from extremely niche communities all the time. Back in 2004 I was a big posted on gamefaqs PotD, and several offshoots, then I suddenly disappeared. I quit doing it. I realized it was a waste of time, I filled my life with more fulfilling things, and talking to lonely strangers who are all lonely for a reason lost it’s appeal. Then at point 6 “everything is fake except anime” I of course cringed. There is no reason anime would be more real than anything else.

[@literallyjustgrass]

The fetishisation point was so weird to me. Did OP at no point consider that there might actually have been a lot of people with foot fetishes, that just weren't talking about it because it used to be way more of a taboo? Loli is still a taboo too (and should remain so lmao). Like, how did he even come to the conclusion that it was the internet serving him his interests? It's schizoposting of the highest order

[@kingbattyhand]

I haven't listened to the full video but if nothing else this 4chan post is stupid

[@saraero]

It does feel dead... 7 years ago i had a lot of mutuals on steam and the forums were always full of new content, the game is still alive but everyone i knew left without trace

[@SoundEffectsFactory]

I also had dozens of Steam friends from the MW2 online days that vanished without any sort of warning. This is creepy

[@raak4070]

@@SoundEffectsFactory no its it's just sad, they all got busy because existing in capitalism sucks away your time and soul

[@IodizedNaCL]

​@@raak4070cost of living today got way too high so yeah they have/had to prioritize living or survive the next day

[@omgjimmyboy]

Lot of us have been banned, which could be another reason the internet feels dead. I got an automated pop up message that my channel is closed to being banned because of “hateful” content.

[@lilacpenguin5329]

People learn basic adult living skills like driving, make connections and have to get jobs

[@troysdogtraining]

the death of mega upload was a bulket through the memory of the internet. so much gold was lost in that one move

[@verndari4819]

you know what kinda screws with me? a lot of my online friends start to message me at the same time, after afk'ing at the same time that always makes me wonder

[@Chromiuss]

I've noticed this too...

[@omgjimmyboy]

Wth

[@avadhuta_4]

My feeling is that internet is quite empty, especially when it comes to human content. There is more of information, and knowledge. It was still relatively easy to make new friends five years ago. Not anymore. Is it all because the algorithm, I don't know. I feel that people are not so social anymore. They are more demanding, and perfectionist - and this demand can be more easily met by bots, than real human beings, who always have funny noses, hair pointing out in different directions, and perhaps with dubious personal hygiene. The personal hygiene points were already in full swing in social media in 2005 onwards. There was a general feeling that humans are unreliable, and somehow faulty. Maybe algorithms know all this and are merely trying to please the human users, mirror in neutral way, the desired outcome?

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

It's not that hard to get to a random discord server and start talking there to make new friends

[@Schnippen_Schnappen1]

It’s true. There is no real info on the internet anymore. Google something and all you get is happy merchants trying to sell you trash

[@gamesthatiplay9083]

And Google promotes those that put in money to be promoted.

[@HazmatSuitUp]

Tell me this doesn't just make you want to walk into the ocean.

[@JaegerMatthias]

With all the microplastics? No thanks.

[@theyellowarchitect4504]

No, it doesn't. You can always unplug, and live real life.

[@TRex-fu7bt]

11:55 is taking about how the internet evolved to make things simpler and clearer (inverted pyramid articles). Can’t wait to see how SEO led to labyrinthine recipe pages.

[@-astrangerontheinternet6687]

It was designed to make things sell. Ideas and products.

[@AppleOfThineEye]

"Ashen One, hearest thou my voice still?" One of my favorite Souls quotes. Thanks for including that in the endcard.

[@theencore398]

I love how the entirety of background music my man has used is just straight up Terraria music.

[@RadioactuveToy]

I've been using the internet since 2005 and it has changed significantly. I use to be able to find detailed personal websites on how to do things or personal passion projects with loads of good info. Slowly, it changed and now the first few results are advertisements and most are Best or Top 10 "product" of " insert month and year". I never so badly whish websites had a downvote, upvote feedback option. I absolutely hate these results, which almost always link to random Amazon products.

[@Wetknees]

You ever get banned or locked out of your account or forget your password? I’ve been on the Internet for a little under 10 years And I’ve had to create at least five different email accounts. That first point is just straight up schizophrenia

[@AlexR2648]

I've been using the same email account for 14 years.

[@foulsandwich]

fr like the whole "people randomly become innactive" thing was so dumb , ive forgotten passwords or just decided to change my acc like several times. Thats also why the internet may seem empty , its just a bunch of dead accs from people who moved on. This whole theory sounds made up

[@TheSultan1470]

@@foulsandwich Hahahahhha smart comment

[@guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943]

​​​@@foulsandwich The only thing I can come up with is that I found 3 artists, and looking for more of their content, I see that 1 of them has just stopped posting for a year, no comment on what happened, no goodbye. And the other one had just striaght up disapeared, had a petreon, and that was gone too. The last one had a reason to leave but they scrubbed lots of their works from the internet and none of their accounts exist anymore.

[@jesterdays]

I have like 20 email accounts and I only use 3 of them

[@TheRealNintendoKid]

Dead internet theory isn't remotely new at all. And it's probably accurate as hell. Those of us who were prepubescent kids and teenagers who surfed the web before social media was a thing remember the old internet.

[@HDcreature]

When I look through comments sections, sometimes I remember that most users interacting there have no memory of the "old Internet" and its culture. It's a strange feeling...

[@r.s.fletcher7066]

The internet delegates my definition of a drug overused to the point where addiction is overcame. I can't stress how it drains me to a magnitude where my subconscious perceives it as a threat to undermining my values

[@juggernautvixx]

Is kind of a reflection of the real world. Most people will die without doing 'something' with their lives. And from the ones that do, you won't hear about most of them. Out of all the things you do, only a handful of things are actually meaningful to you. At the same time you can't pay attention to absolutely everything that's happening in your surroundings, let alone your city, your house, your country, the world. The 80/20 rule applies in so many contexts. But on the internet, the phrase 'sea of irrelevance' fits perfectly, sadly.

[@zachjollimore4339]

the obvious marxist take on the dead internet theory is that capitalism has the power to subsume any tools and critiques that could be used against them, and make a profit from it.

[@papayapixel]

Sure but deep web also includes anything exclusively behind a password. How many offices use cloud-based services in their day-to-day? What about your online banking interface, or the portal you use at college to book classes and access course material? It is made to sound spooky but deep web is mostly boring, non-indexed content

[@crosslegluke4506]

I remember back when I first started my linguistics studies back 10 years ago, I did a paper on "Internet Dialects". How different online communities had developed different dialects of Online English only used on the sites the communities were found, but that Social Media sites seemed to deteriorate this. As more people "Digitally Urbanized" Online English was standardizing.... Just like occurs with urbanization.

[@robertagren9360]

Why do you add comma next to "but" when it's grammatically wrong. That is you using Internet english. Objective language with direct approach and short sentences adapted to be read by a five year old.

[@bearwolffish]

At every stage people had the choice to put in a bit more effort and reject the most the obnoxious forms of this shit, and at every point a majority have chosen the path of least resistance. People want to be able to know nothing, put in as little effort as possible and still have a website, push out KZbin content, be a dev, etc. Geocities and Myspace was too technical for most, Facebook and Twitter made it braindead, while limiting people to pushing polarising opinions because there is no tooling to create unique pages of content.

[@sctrh2]

Money ruins everything. Every cool cultural grass roots movement gets ruined when the corporations muscle in on them.

[@BoromcioStudi]

I clicked on this video right as i started playing terraria on my second monitor and the ost you used in the video made me question why do i hear a wrong biome music in my game

[@jamesramirez523]

I can’t believe this channel hasn’t exploded in popularity yet

[@tristeno9618]

This was such great watch! I definitely want to dive deeper into this Theory

[@sleeexs]

Everything that can go wrong will go wrong.

[@obliviouz]

This was a terrifying video... I'm not sure if it was covered because for long stretched of the video I was in existential crisis from the last segment as it played, but given how much of real world social phenomena, trends and even policy is based on online discourse, the prospect that that discourse is not just automated in a brain-dead sense, but actively corrupt or effectively cancerous, is horrifying.

[@intendedtendencies]

Look I haven't even finished the video yet, but this is a fantastic video. I am so interested in this kind of stuff and I've been saying for years how I'm excited for the future when we start doing studies on the social effects of the internet. In retrospect, dumb of me for not thinking we'd already had so many. You gave me so many studies to read after this video too. Great content.

[@intendedtendencies]

It's also so incredibly well-researched. Any tips on collecting this level of research on niche topics like this? I feel like I'm decent at researching on the internet, but this is still very impressive to me.

[@Cyberwar101]

Okay, here we go; every point made in this 'theory' is more easily explained through known phenomena, so it doesnt pass Occams Razor. This is much better explained through something similar to Urbanization. IRL, we started off with villages, homesteads, and unique comunities, then, as we became more industrialized, we began moving to city centers. This is very similar to how the internet is today. Each large website can be likened to a city-state, and our search engines are essentially highways or other rail-lines. These larger websites have sub-communities, many of which are from whole communities migrating to them at some point in the past. The bots? They are technology; sometimes they are infrastructure, sometimes they are weapons, and sometimes they are that annoying flashing billboard that blinds you while on the road. As for the design similarities, well IRL architecture does this too. Common design archetypes are going to reflect its use. There *are* still small communities still around, forums and personal websites and blogs are *still* a thing. Just, like with rural areas in the real world, they will mainly be trafficked by those who live there. If you have a niche interest or hobby, you will likely find them in these smaller communities, and may take some old-school web serfing to find. For instance; Toki Pona is a constructed language, and a lot of its community congregate around niche forums and personal websites and blogs. People also use forums for posting stories and fanfiction, such as space-battles and sufficient velocity, which are almost sister-sites. Many web serials have their own websites that they post to, and you often find them from random links found on forums. Indie games, often start on forums and personal websites, and then only later wind up on distribution platforms like steam or humble, and many continue to host their websites. Their steam pages will often link to their websites too. I frequently browse the dwarf-fortress forums, for instance. If you want to escape the sameness of the web the solution is simple; leave the crowded cities. There is plenty of life out there, you just have to find it. As for the p*rn, well more people using the internet mean that there will naturally be more of it being made, and in greater veriety. The internet is not dead; you are just living in the mega-cities.

[@scottguitar8168]

It's like cable tv, tons of channels and nothing good to watch.

[@Christopher-nl2kb]

Beautiful analogy...

[@Odinoian]

I think "the web" now feels like Minecraft's 2b2t server, where 75% of the players are TAS bots. If you just log on to do casual stuff the way the web intended, you'll be bombarded, overrun, and looted. There is beauty and genuine community out there but you have to search and work hard to find it, play smart and strategic keep it, but sooner or later a bot is gonna find you and destroy your base and community. We've learned that the only way to survive online these days is to live like nomad. It's worth settling down anywhere to and try to grow something that can withstand eternal optimization

[@ajflink]

This theory makes me think of the Simulated Reality Theory where it both proves and disproves itself. Also, things like this prove to me that people need to be educated what artificial intelligence is and isn't. One example that most people fail to understand and will be surprised if someone tries to argue against this is that A.I. can create original ideas and art. It cannot. A.I. by design requires a basis to generate things and make certain conclusions. Also, making an A.I. mimic human emotions and personalities to pass the Turing Test 100% of the time requires perfect understanding of how emotions are triggered, how emotions can lead to each other, be experienced simultaneously, have different intensities, are not always consistent due to experience, and how emotions affect behavior and decision making.

[@chadhenderson5514]

If nobody is on the internet anymore, what is everyone doing while staring at their phones all day?

[@fungusonus]

People aren't making anything on the internet, they are looking at things made and promoted artificially by bots

[@chadhenderson5514]

@@fungusonus Holy crap, I never knew FOX news was made by robots.

[@fungusonus]

@@chadhenderson5514 what?

[@chadhenderson5514]

@@fungusonus According to what you said, - "People aren't making anything on the internet, they are looking at things made and promoted artificially by bots" - Since FOX news is on the internet, then they must be made and promoted artificially by robots.

[@fungusonus]

@@chadhenderson5514 I didn't mean literally nothing is made by human beings, also, why fox? I mean, they are a mainstream media news station, so I figure their numbers would be inflated by bots as well

[@timothykeiningham7105]

First few minutes of the video were just me going “yeah none of this seems logical AT ALL and just sounds like pure schizophrenia” then he said anime is the only content not ai generated and I realized no this persons not schizophrenic, they’re just trolling the schizophrenics and it worked a little too well

[@Teethmafia]

I didn’t know cyberpunk conspiracy and terraria ost was an internet flavor but now I do

[@HOLYEVOL]

Good job brother! Nobody really ever talks about the interbot. People need to watch this before it disappears!

[@marcel1372]

RE: Point 1: life gets in the way. I used to be so active on facebook among many accounts (mostly still active) of users making ironic content and often getting banned and making alts. eventually though key figures disappear for whatever reason (generally depressing reasons) and then people just lose interest. it gets overwhelming with the way content moves and how websites r being shut down it's disheartening you end up just giving up and going offline or watching painfully normie content bc ur fried to shit

[@armandvanjaarsveld2364]

Shiiiiiiit, this video is more than 2 years old and now in this AI Age it makes more sense than ever.

[@nelsin1925]

On every word that ends in a vowel, this narrator lifts his voice and it drives me crazy.

[@Galahad993]

I know right, I had to stop the video

[@ec-vw1dm]

bro is probably canadian

[@BeStupidWithIntent]

Imagine showing this video to somebody living in the 1950’s or something. They wouldn’t wouldn’t know a single thing said.

[@zarabatanaproductions9240]

if you’ve been on twitter for any amount of time in the post-elon days, you’ll know “dead internet theory” is a “theory” in the same way that gravity or evolution is a “theory”

[@nickchua5772]

Thank you, I have not heard her voice for a while, ever since I lost the game but that brief moment was enough to trigger the feeling of respite

[@Fuggettabouttitt]

What??

[@runningwithscizzors980]

Moral of the story: Capitalism ruins everything. The internet was ruined by centralization when it was once a passion project put together by many people.

[@SilverDergbold]

I feel like the answer is that the internet is, like you said, not exactly dead but hollow. The internet used to be much more lively and active with hundreds, if not, thousands of sites being used and visited but now, depending on the country, you've only got 5-6 websites being widely used. Some a little more, some a little less. It's.. honestly, kind of depressing since a lot of us were around when the internet used to be much more lively, much less corporate and much more fun to be on.

[@Burak-ls5yd]

33:36 That giggle is so creepy.

[@BigGreekCock]

the fact that this video has only 780 views is a proof of why the internet is empty

[@lollllolll.]

The video has thousands of views now But you actually have a good point. Ever noticed how videos on KZbin (even though it can be just a cat video) always has 100 to 200 dislikes if it has 1000 views? Who's disliking videos that all like? Sure maybe someone misclicked but that would be something like only 20 or 50 dislikes but not hundreds...

[@BigGreekCock]

@@lollllolll. Hey, man. Bots need to appear like they're active accounts ;)

[@Aj0_1]

@@lollllolll. i made only one video that got 2.5k views. at one time, it had 90 likes, and 9 dislikes. i guess the dislikes must be 10% to whatever the likes is.

[@ourselvesandourposterity2404]

*FIRST!* Sorry, I had to.

[@SapioiT]

Only 36 718 views right now. The more the internet tries to centralize information, the more lifeless the internet feels. I argue that, in fact, the internet should present people with more diversity, in terms of both information promoted by the algorithms and their owners&creators, and information suggested by the actual users. If the facebook feed only shows us content from 10-20 people after we like enough of their posts, then we will never know what everyone else has to say. That is how echo chambers are formed, and echo-chambers feel lifeless because the people in those echo-chambers act like a hive-mind, pushing a certain narrative using many different ways to phrase it, but the essence of the things said remains the same.

[@TommyLikeTom]

this isn't just the internet, this is life

[@jequanamousse4280]

Point 8 isn’t really all that paranormal, it is common practice for 2 different teams to design websites independently of one another for mobile and desktop, so when your browser tells the server that you’re using a mobile device, it will serve you the independently developed mobile version of the webpage, nothing really malicious, just different design considerations

[@kasaneteto5663]

Not surprising this was birthed from wizchan, considering half the points made could be debunked by going outside and actually talking to someone

[@TheSultan1470]

Hahahahahahhahahaa nice

[@Nichtdu-rt4ih]

Thanks for the timestamps. Really helped me navigate the video

[@Kizunaut]

Great video from premise that most would have laughed off

[@Bokto1]

And one day, Chosen Bot would have to travel to the twelve root DNS servers, to reboot the web

[@Shibasu_]

I don't buy the entire theory but there is a lot of truth to this. great video!

[@irisalexander]

omg i just had this thought ONLY IN MY HEAD TODAY about this topic ... then it showed in my recommended 🤨 i compared it to how when we were kids we felt like there was "nothing to eat" or "nothing to wear" but in reality we had enough or we could easily just get what we want .... i d k it was sorta an incomplete thought

[@IncursorVerde]

To those who don't see a centralized Internet as an issue... No one should hold total control of Data Flux, or how it is offered, if one party has the monopoly of necessities (real or invented) they hold all the terms of how they solve that necessity (price, quality, etc). That's not good by any way you look at it, since no one but the monopoly gets to establish the terms in everything (from what is and what isn't right or wrong data, to prices, to availability). That's the new tiranny in the disguise of corporations (both online and in real world)

[@RoxyStellar]

eloquent summative tyranny assessment ❣as indeed, Alexis de Tocqueville described this new type of tyranny , quite well ✌

[@somethingelse334]

Basically, I think therefore I am. If you don't see it, or know anyone who has seen it.. then you should not believe everything you hear about it. No absolutes.

[@Rose-ec6he]

I am this close to retreating to the woods or starting a farm

[@gfn6656]

This is definitely the type of content that gets attention, haha. I could see Fredrick Knudsen covering this.

[@RandoomDude]

the idea that the internet is now being generated by AI is completley new, no one was claiming this was the case 10 years ago but people still say its the same theory regardless

[@PlayingWithWilson]

This is fact and the video is meant to make it seem like a joke, that's why he mentioned schizophrenia to make anyone who knows the truth of the extent of fabrication that we believe to be real to be insane and therefore will be ignored and treated as insane.

[@hensen5309]

What do we make of anomalies like pewds? I've always wondered how many of those subs dont have access to their accounts anymore

[@korhonenmikko]

I'll be honest, the original post paints a picture of the authors as someone who's not very smart, curious or experienced in life, who doesn't leave the house an awful lot, and mainly perceives the world filtered through a forum for dicussing Chinese cartoons. While the theory touches on things that are probably happening the extent to which the OP develops it is a bit stupid.

[@akaroth7542]

I really miss the late 90's internette

[@BSIII]

This is going to trigger cognitive dissonance, so I'm not going to get into details here, but weird things happened when you searched 'covid 19 33' in the 'news' search on a search engine. This was very peculiar in 2020 (probably still happens)... Very weird patterns.

[@funnyman4744]

???? bruh wtf are you on to be surprised that a couple dozen of places have anything related to the number 33 and covid 19 I legit can search up covid 19 55 and get the same bs literally any double digit number works

[@raak4070]

"Cognitive dissonance is when someone disagrees with my stupid conspiracy nonsense"

[@OurResistance]

Actually, its not just the internet that is dead. Everyone else on earth is dead! Proof? Almost everyone lies about most things and no one listens to reason!

[@hasmond6808]

26:20 that's not Terraria "Sky guardian (Jungle)", that's the "Metropolis" theme from Ratchet and Clank.

[@hobonickel840]

the Internet acts as a mirror on ones reality based on ones inferential feedback and the data aka feedback loops

[@dubesor]

Wow, this video really opened my eyes! Thanks for sharing such valuable content. Can't wait to apply these insights in my own life.