Dead Mall: Independence Center - Independence, Missouri

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@adammiles4330 2 жыл бұрын

I don't think I'd call it dead. They might get slow sometimes but this mall is pretty well kept, and a decent majority of the businesses here are still open. Have malls declined majorly in the last 10 years? yes, but by 2022 standards, this mall is doing fine

@Jacob-nu4nd Жыл бұрын

Just lost 3 more stores and there is not one major chain in the food court

@adammiles4330 Жыл бұрын

@@Jacob-nu4nd I'm sorry to hear that. I guess the days of malls really are coming to a close.

@phantomx.t.v6610 Жыл бұрын

I live right next to this mall the apartments right behind it and tbh this mall is going down the drain I worked here for 3 years at the Macy’s that just closed down

@derp8575 Жыл бұрын

@@adammiles4330Why? Surely there must be a reason. It's no different than Bannister Mall. Once the black population increases it's game over.

@mikebegonia6134 Жыл бұрын

@@derp8575 Why? What*s wrong with black shopper? What about online shopping? Or are you just a racist?

@woodwaker1 5 ай бұрын

It comes down to safety, or the feeling it is or it isn't. That's what killed Bannister Mall, when the shoppers felt that their life was in danger going to the mall, they quit

@elijahwilson1422 7 ай бұрын

I miss Metro North and Antioch Mall and have good memories from both places from the 1980s. I am would go with relatives from other parts of the 816 area code on weekends and we enjoyed it

@natedg78 6 ай бұрын

And don't forget Misson Mall. I always felt like that I was in Back to the Future when I went to that mall

@elijahwilson1422 6 ай бұрын

@@natedg78 I never went to that mall and only went to the ones on the Missouri side. I, two cousins and an aunt of ours went to the movie theater across the road from Antioch Mall and watched Ernest Goes to Camp. Also, an uncle of ours lived in Claycomo, which is pretty much down the road from Gladstone. I know the 1980s were far from entirely good, but I believe most of us that were alive back in that decade were better off than we are now. You can't even hang out with anyone most of the time anymore, or go to any social function without them having their nose stuck in their smartphone. Also, few people even know how to carry a conversation, let alone engage in one anymore

@derp8575 8 ай бұрын

The mall might not be dead, but it's dying. Some of us remember what it was like 20+ years ago.

@kodymusprime9366 5 ай бұрын

I live in independence and I remember going to the GameStop area and the hot topic area a lot and it's just looks a little sad to look like compared to something like Oak Park mall where there's thousands of people and thousands of cars in the parking lot compared to independence center where there's about a few dozen people and a couple dozen cars and that's it

@MWAshby-bb1ee 2 жыл бұрын

I've known IC since the 1970s and it looks fantastic today! If you're going to have a mall, the IC design is a great one to have. Yes, malls are dying everywhere but this one is so well maintained that it seems attractive to retailers and shoppers. For all anyone cares, tear them down but IC looks like a keeper! Thank you for the look around today....I've not been there since the 1990s.

@allieraquelYT 8 ай бұрын

I honestly had no idea it was actually maintained! I'd like to visit but wondered about safety.

@elijahwilson1422 7 ай бұрын

I enjoyed going to Barnes and Nobles and also the AMC theater back in the 90s and early 2000s.

@bridgetnash3823 2 жыл бұрын

I live in this area. Good to see that Independence Center is still doing okay. The last time I went, there were a lot more people around but at least it's not dying.

@Jacob-nu4nd Жыл бұрын

It’s definitely dying

@danielbackerauthor 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. I'm working on a project right now with dead malls, and this is the mall that I grew up going to!

@Studio-Rat Жыл бұрын

Summer 2014, went with my 2 older homies from Moberly to KC. One had a sax lesson, and the other we went to this mall. We didn't do anything but Bs and it was great. Good to see there's still life here.

@wadestef1 2 жыл бұрын

Their working on bringing it back to life thankfully

@lbennhtx6072 2 жыл бұрын

I remember when it opened in 1974 and we started going there instead of Blue Ridge Mall.

@analogpark8059 2 жыл бұрын

Now there is a Wal-Mart where the Blue Ridge Mall used to be.

@NEATESTRAPPERALIVE 2 жыл бұрын

The ability to shop online is what's killing these malls . I used to hang out here as a teenager In the 90's .

@coreymcarthur8960 2 жыл бұрын

Shit we used to hang out there in the late ‘00s. Ate a lot of meals at that applebees

@derp8575 Жыл бұрын

If that was true, strip malls wouldn't exist. It was crime, period.

@slackingpacking Жыл бұрын

Whoa that coaster inside is amazing! I’m definitely stopping here whenever I visit in March.

@Spookynessi Жыл бұрын

Personally my favorite mall

@jvc8947 Жыл бұрын

Miss the Carousel. It looks pretty good though.

@TheBucketDealer Жыл бұрын

When I lived in independence as a kid, like 4 - 8 years old, my mom and i would sometimes go here and spend a couple of hours at the mall. I remember they had a little train that rode around the upper floor that kids could pay to get on and ride around in. They also had a really smelly petsmart near one of the parking lot exits and i would always hold my nose shut to block the smell until we got outside. If i remember correctly, there was also an indoor childrens playplace thing? Where kids could go to play and burn off energy while parents sat down on the benches (and tables?) Its been almost 10 years since ive been, so i can guarantee that some things have changed since 2010 - 2014.

@erroneous6947 8 ай бұрын

The play area had little mushrooms for kids to play on. My daughter loved it.

@Talendale 2 жыл бұрын

It's not looking quite dead yet- the property is clearly taken care of, and it's not down to mallwakers dodging falling roof tiles. No mall right now is going at full capacity between COVID, a severely strained economy and the ever-present underpaying of the lower/middle class that fuel malls to begin with.

@lamontthurman9227 2 жыл бұрын

I use to work at the subway they use to have at this mall years ago…I have been back to this mall recently and it’s definitely not active as it once was…seems like more people go to oak park mall now

@naegiplush 2 жыл бұрын

yeah, oak park is WAY cooler than independence center as much as i hate to say it..

@Shinyarc 2 жыл бұрын

I have a feeling if push comes to shove Oak Park will be the last holdout mall. It gets slow, sure, but never empty

@zachmcnerney409 Жыл бұрын

This mall isn't dying lol. Still going strong.

@Recoil816 7 ай бұрын

Relative to how it used to be decades ago, it is a hellscape.

@jameslong9564 2 жыл бұрын

There’s section 8 housing around two miles way. That spells doom for this mall. Haven’t been there since March 2019.

@Jacob-nu4nd Жыл бұрын

Independence itself is probably the lowest income that go there but the surrounding areas are very high income. The mall just has to transition to luxury stores and it will do fine.

@beansmcdonough1782 Жыл бұрын

@@Jacob-nu4nd 😂

@derp8575 Жыл бұрын

Same thing happened to Bannister. Good luck explaining that to Liberals.

@allieraquelYT 8 ай бұрын

@@derp8575late here but do you remember where exactly Bannister Mall was?

@derp8575 8 ай бұрын

@@allieraquelYT Hillcrest Road near the Cerner Innovative Campus. That area was solid middle class up until the 1990s. As the OP stated, section 8 started spilling in, along with inner city bussing to the mall. My family lived in South KC until they decided to buy a property at Raintree Lake. My father is a liberal. His politics were responsible for the downfall of South Kansas City. He votes blue which destabilizes his own neighborhood and then he moves to a safer neighborhood, bringing his politics with him. It's like a virus. The host dies and the virus moves to a different one. We see it happening in California and NYC. A mass exodus due to liberal policies. Unfortunately they bring their politics with them to the red states.

@luciasabrinadimaria614 Жыл бұрын

I bought wedding bands there from Kriegels Jewelry back in 94.

@br549200 7 ай бұрын

It will be sad to see it go, it’s a matter of time. Used to take my girls there to ride the carousel in the 90’s.

@kdw75 2 жыл бұрын

Man I used to love pushing my little brother in the stroller up and down all the ramps they used to have. Why, oh why, did they take those out?????

@thehypotheticalquasistar3450 2 жыл бұрын

I used to go to this mall I still do even tho there are shootings every 1 millisecond

@derp8575 Жыл бұрын

Crime wasn't an issue until Independence became more diverse.

@PryorTravis 8 ай бұрын

There are a ton of bustling stores and great restaurants on the loop around the mall. for my money, Smokehouse is the best "fancy" barbecue spot in Kansas City. I'd hate to see that go down like Bodee's, a barbecue joint but good nonetheless, did when Bannister Mall went down.

@SisterRose64055 Жыл бұрын

Well kept yes , how ever are they paying rent though I’ll never understand.

@tammybrown4901 2 жыл бұрын

Looks open to me, slow but more stores then most.

@schwenda3727 2 жыл бұрын

Went there in early fall 2018 and things didn’t seem so bad. However based on somewhat recent research, it seemed even then, that property was already going through the similar crime/violence/reputation issues that the former Bannister Mall and even St. Louis’s former Northwest Plaza went through in the 90s & early 2000s… Reputation & perception aside, if/when someone gets shot INSIDE of the mall, at bare minimum, they could likely forget about EVER getting that place fully leased ever again, to put it lightly…

@RelaxIveHadCoffee Жыл бұрын

There was definitely a shooting in the mall a few years ago, I want to say it was either right before or right after the mall switched ownership. I keep thinking it happened over on the Sears side, but don't quote me on that. That was the first (and only) time I can remember that happening there. Now, Bannister Mall? Different story. We'd stopped going there long before its downfall, but it was so sad to see it go through that...

@dreybaca1344 7 ай бұрын

it was the dillards side me and my girlfriend were there when it happened i dropped my phone when we ran out and had to go back the next morning in a blizzard to pick it up

@SisterRose64055 Жыл бұрын

You could not only roller skate about and nobody else would complain but practice yodeling as well.

@elijahwilson1422 7 ай бұрын

I think at one time malls were even not unfriendly to busking as well BUT that was decades ago.

@toddinfl 2 жыл бұрын

Independence, MO saw what happened to Bannister and has avoided those problems. It's not hard... just keep out the usual suspects.

@Jacob-nu4nd Жыл бұрын

Who are the usual suspects?

@beansmcdonough1782 Жыл бұрын

@@Jacob-nu4nd City dwellers. They ruin everything they touch.

@derp8575 Жыл бұрын

@@Jacob-nu4ndStop pretending to be ignorant. You know.

@DeanaStoned 11 ай бұрын

Cant go there without getting shit stolen from car or caught in shooting ...smh

@Man-MadeArchaeology 11 ай бұрын

It’s getting bad 🙁

@elijahwilson1422 7 ай бұрын

I was alive in the 1980s and thr only times it seemed like there was ever mall shoot outs was on action movies. But fast forward to the 2020s and here we are

@Jacob-nu4nd Жыл бұрын

The only way to save this mall is to remodel it and turn it into a luxury mall. This mall is surrounded by high income and there’s literally no luxury stores that’s the only way to turn that area around. Right now it just appeals to the hood because it’s full of shoe stores and jewelry stores.

@Spookynessi Жыл бұрын

Where would they get funding

@beansmcdonough1782 Жыл бұрын

Get your head out of the sand

@archangel_one Жыл бұрын

It might be easier to launch it into space, don't you think?

@derp8575 Жыл бұрын

@@beansmcdonough1782Where's the lie?

@caseyandtoryshalloween1236 5 ай бұрын

Macy's has since closed.

@dvferyance 2 жыл бұрын

This mall is far from dead. Sure it may have some empty stores but what mall doesn't these days? If you want to see a real dead mall go east on I-70 and head over to Chesterfield.