Dead or Alive 6 Tech Analysis: PS4/Pro/Xbox One/X/PC - Every Version Tested!

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Team Ninja return with its signature fighter - Dead or Alive 6 - the first built specifically for Xbox One and PS4 systems. John covers all consoles and PC in this all-in-one tech breakdown. How much of an upgrade is it compared to the last game? And how well does it hold to 60fps on the weaker consoles? Let's find out.
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@TheBeatboxHitmanTwo
@TheBeatboxHitmanTwo 5 жыл бұрын
Dead or alive is still one of the best fighting series my opinion
@TheBeatboxHitmanTwo
@TheBeatboxHitmanTwo 3 жыл бұрын
@Louis Wells cool. No one cares bot.
@lassesuurmunne8340
@lassesuurmunne8340 2 жыл бұрын
It’s my favorite 3D fighter, always will be. I just have the most fun with it.
@joseabraham777
@joseabraham777 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@jfd4706
@jfd4706 2 жыл бұрын
Tekken > All other fighting games
@RARufus
@RARufus 9 ай бұрын
DOA is great for players who don’t want to dig into all of the moves and strategy and have a good time. I played the HECK out of DOA2 and 3. That said, I still love Virtua Fighter for its massive depth and replay-ability. I stopped playing Tekken after 3 since they weren’t on Xbox and I skipped the PS2 and PS3 and had went with Xbox for those gens.
@tommatas9942
@tommatas9942 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you DF for delivering this tech analysis from long time DOA fan.
@Meracog
@Meracog 4 жыл бұрын
I always felt like this was always an underrated fighting game. It's just so smooth.
@justanotheryoutubechannel
@justanotheryoutubechannel 2 жыл бұрын
I love smooth fighting games but I’ve felt that especially with DOA since the Dreamcast era, I don’t even know how they do it, I think it’s something to do with the animations and blending rather than the typically excellent framerate, 6 is especially smooth thought even for DOA, it must have some excellent motion blur technology too.
@792p
@792p 5 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for the inevitable Xtreme Beach Volleyball review
@anasevi9456
@anasevi9456 5 жыл бұрын
and the +200kg screechers in the media calling for it to be banned.
@pyrojinn
@pyrojinn 5 жыл бұрын
The Switch edition will have “more features” but I would bet on PS4’s image quality
@hunterking572
@hunterking572 5 жыл бұрын
How much work did you put into synchronizing your voice and the screen at 8:14?
@dark1x
@dark1x 5 жыл бұрын
Hunter King 😏
@officialtruvotru-druvevoch7049
@officialtruvotru-druvevoch7049 3 жыл бұрын
Lmaooo!
@Silikone
@Silikone 5 жыл бұрын
Pushing 3M polygons per second on the Dreamcast was an impressive feat for Dead or Alive.
@webinatic216
@webinatic216 5 жыл бұрын
3.000.000 polys / 60fps = 50.000 polys on screen.
@maegnificant
@maegnificant 5 жыл бұрын
@@webinatic216 that's not how this works dude :D
@Silikone
@Silikone 5 жыл бұрын
But it is. Just the characters are 9K polygons each. This alone is almost as much as an average Quake 3 scene. To be fair, it doesn't really do a lot with those polygons, and the game ends up looking bland compared to Soul Calibur.
@webinatic216
@webinatic216 5 жыл бұрын
@@maegnificant Yes it is. 3 million polygons a sec = 1fps with 3000000 polygons on screen.
@cheapshot777
@cheapshot777 5 жыл бұрын
@@Silikone Soul Calibur was an impressive launch title but DOA2 is worlds apart in terms of characters and environments. The faces of SC's characters are kind of undefined in comparison, for instance, and many elements of the backgrounds are just flat textures and sprites, like on Kilik's stage. For me, DOA2 looked insane when it was released.
@bigboy0494
@bigboy0494 5 жыл бұрын
DOA 2 on the Dreamcast blew my mind at the time
@aaronhayes8873
@aaronhayes8873 5 жыл бұрын
I remember being like "They have individual fingers!"
@jamesrouse3466
@jamesrouse3466 5 жыл бұрын
The DOA2 remaster that came in the DOA1 & DOA2 bundle for the original Xbox was absolutely breathtaking. It had much improved visuals and character models across the board, a wealth of new gameplay modes and options and a ton more costumes from DOA3 and Ninja Gaiden.
@Rationalific
@Rationalific 5 жыл бұрын
I know. I was like, "THIS is what I have been waiting for! This is next-gen!" I had been disappointed with the 3D graphics of the Saturn (and all consoles in that first major 3D generation). I loved Daytona USA in arcades, but the Saturn port was trash in comparison. But after playing DOA2 in arcades in 1999 (and being blown away with the best graphics I'd ever seen), I was expecting the Dreamcast port to not live up to that. However, it came amazingly close and turned out to be what is likely my favorite Dreamcast game ever!
@mrratchet
@mrratchet 5 жыл бұрын
@@jamesrouse3466 Fun fact - the DOA2 remaster on Xbox was using the much upgraded DOA3 engine, which helps to easily make it the definitive edition. I think the PS2 got a re-release of DOA2 as well because the original DOA2 release looked horrible compared to the Dreamcast version at the time.
@bunkiebunk
@bunkiebunk 5 жыл бұрын
Was it your mind or sth else
@MightyJonE
@MightyJonE 5 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for the Digital Foundry: Boob Physics Analysis vid!
@voixco78
@voixco78 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, John. I don't know how much interest there would be in it, and I realize it would be a lot of work, but I would love to see a DF retro devoted to the DoA series. Prior to DoA5, the series was a real technical marvel with some truly amazing stages. It's impressive how well DoA2 Ultimate on the original XBOX and DoA4 still hold up today.
@t4m642
@t4m642 5 жыл бұрын
This was an awesome video. Wouldn't mind a df retro on the history of DOA Games
@DeffecX
@DeffecX 5 жыл бұрын
Best part about the video was the ending , that DOA 2 Intro takes me back 😭
@strangevision99
@strangevision99 5 жыл бұрын
Deadly Silence Beach is more nostalgic to me, but that wasn't on the Dreamcast version.
@kusammk
@kusammk 5 жыл бұрын
You damn right
@PushStart_YT
@PushStart_YT 5 жыл бұрын
every itagaki's doa intros blew my mind, and those aero smith sound tracks. as soon as he left, the series presentation and graphics went to trash, along with ninja gaiden.
@DreamcastFreak
@DreamcastFreak 5 жыл бұрын
@@PushStart_YT 100% true :/
@DreamcastFreak
@DreamcastFreak 5 жыл бұрын
@@strangevision99 not necessarily true, it WAS in the soundtest lol. Also if you want to include it, the original arcade intro had it too
@johnsundberg7697
@johnsundberg7697 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing how good DOA2 looks even today.
@alecatttheman896
@alecatttheman896 4 жыл бұрын
Dreamcast ftw 👌🏾 💯
@FantasyNero
@FantasyNero 3 жыл бұрын
@@alecatttheman896He Meant Nope Dead Or Alive 2 Ultimate on Xbox
@alecatttheman896
@alecatttheman896 3 жыл бұрын
@@FantasyNero thats a remake using DOA3 engine basically DOA3 Modded I still got the DOA 1 disk from Xbox but sadly lost the DOA2 disc 😢
@FrankE83
@FrankE83 5 жыл бұрын
I like the DOA franchise. Been playing DOA 6 alot on the X :)
@orangedrone
@orangedrone 5 жыл бұрын
Does the Gaiden character come with the base game?
@FrankE83
@FrankE83 5 жыл бұрын
@@orangedrone I got the deluxe and he was in it. Don't know about the base. Better off getting the deluxe comes extra fighters
@r.o.6180
@r.o.6180 5 жыл бұрын
@@orangedrone yes
@phutureproof
@phutureproof 5 жыл бұрын
When are you contributing to the downfall of gaming by purchasing the 99$ season pas hahahahahahahahahahahaha
@tricksalot2
@tricksalot2 5 жыл бұрын
Bet yah ir gonna drop this game a few weeks or months for somthing like mk 11.
@lndozois
@lndozois 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for adding the DOA2 intro at the end! I had chills throughout! Ah, the memories!
@hemangchauhan2864
@hemangchauhan2864 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks John. Just know you are awesome :)
@TheTraveller777
@TheTraveller777 5 жыл бұрын
DOA2 and 3 still look good. I remember wanting an Xbox because DOA3 looked amazing graphically.
@s9209122222
@s9209122222 4 жыл бұрын
DOA3 was the first console game that I played, and I totally fell in love with Kasumi and Ayane.
@bman2k4
@bman2k4 5 жыл бұрын
got goose bumps seeing the DOA2 intro.I miss those dreamcast days
@eponymous7910
@eponymous7910 5 жыл бұрын
The dc arcade stick was awesome for doa 2, sc, m vs c and powerstone 2. Wish I still had it 😭
@RicochetForce
@RicochetForce 5 жыл бұрын
Damn, thanks for that analysis! I knew there was SOMETHING to DOA6 that made it look worse than SC6 but I couldn't quite figure out why. Turns out it was staring at me the entire time. Also, goddamn that DOA2. It reminds me how hype that shit was back in the day. One of my favorite attract modes ever.
@NiGHTS1980
@NiGHTS1980 5 жыл бұрын
I have all DOA games on various systems from Saturn, Dreamcast, OG Xbox to the Xbox One X. Love this series since I first saw it in the arcades running on Sega's model 2 hardware.
@InFar45
@InFar45 5 жыл бұрын
Ending full of nostalgia!
@silentfanatic
@silentfanatic 5 жыл бұрын
DF Retro covering DOA as a whole? Pretty, pretty please?
@sirgeeky
@sirgeeky 5 жыл бұрын
The DOA2 intro brings back memories.
@therealpizzagirl
@therealpizzagirl 5 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion: The Dead or Alive Xtreme games are amazing and underrated.
@Gladlion
@Gladlion 5 жыл бұрын
The real pizza boy dirty weeb
@therealpizzagirl
@therealpizzagirl 5 жыл бұрын
@@Gladlion Dead
5 жыл бұрын
Underrated ? I remember people praising it quite a lot.
@KatanaRikku
@KatanaRikku 5 жыл бұрын
Xtreme 2 was the best because it had Jet Skis. Every other one pales in comparison besides the graphics and the soft engine
@2023PerfectDark
@2023PerfectDark 5 жыл бұрын
DoAX3 is no different from Xtreme 2. But Xtreme 2 is technically better than Extreme 3 in a lot of ways.
@2pacaveli257
@2pacaveli257 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best beat em up series ever lived next to tekken..my first doa game was Dreamcast and was so epic back then
5 жыл бұрын
DOA 4 is still one of the most impressive fighter i've ever seen. Technically speaking it's absolutely wonderful.
@TheKeithvidz
@TheKeithvidz 5 жыл бұрын
MAN we outta exchange game tags, Hope BC.
5 жыл бұрын
@@TheKeithvidz NP, I don't have a 360 anymore (was hoping the game would be playable already on One), but as soon as the game get bw compatible i'm getting back online. I remember that lobby though with the mini Hayabusa... lol
@TheKeithvidz
@TheKeithvidz 5 жыл бұрын
Among if not the first game i had online@ Sold most of my 360 stuff - kept DOA 4, chances are good for BC. gt - SAGABOY 8.
@madfinntech
@madfinntech 5 жыл бұрын
15:51 Well, that's the right logo to use for PC!
@HeelPower200
@HeelPower200 5 жыл бұрын
I can't see how SC6 looks better at all. The modeling here is far superior.
@bulletproofman323
@bulletproofman323 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Maybe the technical aspects are superior for all I know, but I think DOA6 just looks all around more detailed and crisp than the character models in SC6. Just my opinion though.
@WaffleMenu
@WaffleMenu 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, John. I always look forward to your videos
@kawii9793
@kawii9793 5 жыл бұрын
That graphics card costs more then all the other consoles together :D
@bulletproofman323
@bulletproofman323 5 жыл бұрын
Seriously?!?!? I gotta look this shit up
@cnhnx
@cnhnx 5 жыл бұрын
The models are already ripped and looking at them in Blender I can confirm that the models are far more detailed, at least poly-count wise. Looking at the head mesh DOA6 is around 10k vertices while DOA5 is around 2k. That's like, 5 times the jump. In comparison Tekken 7 is still lower than DOA5, and SC6 is even lower. If you want to lament about a series that used to push the limits on graphics but no more now, it's Soul Calibur. SC6 reused the models of SC5 and they're very low-poly; I guess good use of lighting and materials make it less noticeable.
@DreamcastFreak
@DreamcastFreak 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like the tekken models are the same from ttt2. Except the clothes. Am i right?
@tieulongdoan4490
@tieulongdoan4490 5 жыл бұрын
I swear there is just something about DOA4 that still makes it look much better and flashier.
@darthmisogyny3828
@darthmisogyny3828 5 жыл бұрын
They changed the art style that itagaki used. All that flash and substance left after he quit Tecmo
@thosediamonddreams
@thosediamonddreams 5 жыл бұрын
Love this series, was worried about which platform to get it on so this vid was a tremendous help. Excellent work as always, John!! Love DF. You guys are killing it lately. You guys are THE authority in platform/graphics breakdowns.
@4kgamingtrailers994
@4kgamingtrailers994 5 жыл бұрын
All hail dead or alive 2 dc and dead or alive 4 Xbox 360.
@Bristecom
@Bristecom 5 жыл бұрын
DOA 2 Ultimate and 3 on the original Xbox were very impressive too. I just wish they had ported the PS4 version of 5 to the PC and gave us all the DLC stages.
@TheKeithvidz
@TheKeithvidz 5 жыл бұрын
Played both and other team ninja game @@Bristecom
@silentfanatic
@silentfanatic 5 жыл бұрын
The hair in DOA4 was abysmal. Lei Fang looked like she had spaghetti tied to her scalp.
@4kgamingtrailers994
@4kgamingtrailers994 5 жыл бұрын
@@Bristecom so true i was there doa ultimate hit Xbox live. IT was huge back them with bonkers Melanie and does other ss rank Guys and girls
@ZDY66666
@ZDY66666 5 жыл бұрын
Holy smokes. Yall uploading like a mad man. Keep it up!
@oscarzxn4067
@oscarzxn4067 5 жыл бұрын
0:44 I don't know but Kasumi looks absolutely beautiful in all of them.
@alondite215
@alondite215 5 жыл бұрын
Kasumi is
@Rationalific
@Rationalific 5 жыл бұрын
Nice tech analysis. And thanks for that added DOA2 opening cinematic at the end as well!
@Revz8bit
@Revz8bit 5 жыл бұрын
I love how "prioritize graphics" looks worse. Stable frame rate >>>>>>> Resolution
@KamuiShinroProductions
@KamuiShinroProductions 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for analysing DOA6!
@madson-web
@madson-web 5 жыл бұрын
DF Retro DOA2 coming?
@richarde.9411
@richarde.9411 5 жыл бұрын
It would be awsome ! (DOA2U and DOA3 Worth it too).
@G360LIVE
@G360LIVE 5 жыл бұрын
@@richarde.9411 I'd like to see DOA, DOA2, DOA3, and DOA2U in one DF Retro. I'd also like to see Ninja Gaiden (NES and Xbox) along with Ninja Gaiden II (Xbox 360).
@BigKahunaShake
@BigKahunaShake 5 жыл бұрын
Ninja Gaiden Black and Ninja Gaiden II analysis videos would be great@@G360LIVE
@MegamanEXEv2
@MegamanEXEv2 5 жыл бұрын
You’re awesome John!
@konczdavid
@konczdavid 5 жыл бұрын
I dunno man, all these modern 3D fighting games are funny looking. To me all of them (DoA 6, SC6, Tekken 7, etc.) still look like upscaled PS2 games. It doesn't seem like they progressed much in terms of visuals since those days.
@tchitchouan
@tchitchouan 5 жыл бұрын
it's the japanese artstyle model, it never changes
@ardi1606
@ardi1606 5 жыл бұрын
It's because the art style.
@J.A.Z-TheMortal
@J.A.Z-TheMortal 5 жыл бұрын
Yup. Aside from Polyphony Digital, most Japanese developers rarely go for a photorealistic look. Its a shame.
@tchitchouan
@tchitchouan 5 жыл бұрын
@@J.A.Z-TheMortal i find the japanese art style easier on the eyes than western ones
@scrufflord6618
@scrufflord6618 5 жыл бұрын
I think current web video compression doesn't do a lot of games justice. The actual game looks crisp as fuck.
@nickmotsarsky4382
@nickmotsarsky4382 5 жыл бұрын
John: your best video to date is the Onrush developer interview. It was fascinating.
@TheGameLecturer
@TheGameLecturer 5 жыл бұрын
What I like is that clothes don't clip through one another. It looks cleaner than SCVI !
@anaksarawak
@anaksarawak 5 жыл бұрын
Im a simple man. When I see DOA's tumbnails and title, I click it. (A long time DOA fan from PS1)
@Zerobruno89
@Zerobruno89 5 жыл бұрын
i think that with all the games in the series, you could do a DFretro episode
@retropulse03
@retropulse03 5 жыл бұрын
I'm really surprised how little you guys covered the HDR here... I know it's only on one console, but I was really interested to see how it's implementation works. With other X games like RDR2 having "fake hdr" implementation, I find it's a good idea to look closer at how each developer is utilizing the technology. Especially since it's so very much more of a visual impact than 1080p-to-4K.
@miloslajic4579
@miloslajic4579 5 жыл бұрын
I'm doing tech analysis mom.
@gamingwithdummies3960
@gamingwithdummies3960 Жыл бұрын
The Dreamcast part at the end was just chef’s kiss 👌
@ZetZatar
@ZetZatar 5 жыл бұрын
Does turning off the effects like dust/etc in the options menu affect the frame rate? This game REALLY needs a patch.
@celcius_87
@celcius_87 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis! I also got introduced to the series with DOA2 and I'm really enjoying DOA6. Seeing that PC performance at 4K makes me want to upgrade :)
@dannonyogurt98
@dannonyogurt98 5 жыл бұрын
Soooo.... You going to compare DOA Xtreme switch vs PS4? For science.
@KageMaru10g
@KageMaru10g 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as always John!
@neocaron87
@neocaron87 5 жыл бұрын
Can't get 4k60 locked with my 1080ti, looking at the game it makes no sense to me...
@YourFriendlyKebab
@YourFriendlyKebab 5 жыл бұрын
@@DeadPhoenix86DP it's a bad port, it doesn't even have a texture quality setting
@odinsplaygrounds
@odinsplaygrounds 5 жыл бұрын
I have a way weaker machine, but regardless, so many more visually impressive games run smoother than this, and this game lacks proper graphics settings to optimize the framerate and figuring out what the hell is demanding so much. Soul Calibur VI looks better and runs better on the same machine.
@PushStart_YT
@PushStart_YT 5 жыл бұрын
I couldn't get my 1070 to lock at 60fps in some stages @1440p max settings. Have to lower to 1080p. This game is not CPU intensive at all. Cruising around 25% on a i7 6700, but it's very hungry for GPU power. This new engine is very heavy, more so than the girls assets. Hope they don't use it in their future games like Nioh 2 or Ninja Gaiden 4 (if it ever comes) because it will tank even a 2080ti in those games @4k.
@420sakura1
@420sakura1 5 жыл бұрын
1050 ti? 4k@60? What a joke? Even 1060 can't do that. 1050 to is 1080p card not 4k.
@neocaron87
@neocaron87 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have trouble reading? It says 1080ti... @@420sakura1
@iPlaySEGA
@iPlaySEGA 5 жыл бұрын
This time i better wait for Dead Or Alive 6 Ultimate Final Showdown... BTW: You guys had no copyright claims because the DOA2 intro song? I had to mute it in my playthrough videos... O_o
@DreamcastFreak
@DreamcastFreak 5 жыл бұрын
Haha maybe they haven't gotten caught yet. Btw, love your vids, man!
@iPlaySEGA
@iPlaySEGA 5 жыл бұрын
@@DreamcastFreak Thanks for the support!
@ardi1606
@ardi1606 5 жыл бұрын
"THE PC VERSION IS CLEARLY THE VERSION TO PLAY" -DIGITAL FOUNDRY Not really a surprise though.
@TKsh1
@TKsh1 5 жыл бұрын
Take a shot every time someone comments "PC version is the best not a big surprise"
@ardi1606
@ardi1606 5 жыл бұрын
@@TKsh1 i guess i'm the first.
@stahlseuche
@stahlseuche 5 жыл бұрын
@@TKsh1 let's start lining up the shots then 🍻 cheers to the PCMR.
@therealpizzagirl
@therealpizzagirl 5 жыл бұрын
@モブサイコ The best version of Arkham Knight is the pc version.
@zybch
@zybch 5 жыл бұрын
And all you need is a PC 3-4 times as expensive as the priciest console lol
@gamingwithdummies3960
@gamingwithdummies3960 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video Digital Foundry! I'm playing on the Pro on quality mode and it looks and plays great.
@montygill2835
@montygill2835 5 жыл бұрын
Great
@ChaosLegionaire
@ChaosLegionaire 5 жыл бұрын
I actually like the darker look. The haze effect on PC just washes a lot of the color out. And loses a lot of character to the visuals because of it. How do I install the One X bug on PC???
@ataksnajpera
@ataksnajpera 5 жыл бұрын
Adjust you monitor settings if you like crushed blacks.
@RicochetForce
@RicochetForce 5 жыл бұрын
PC doesn't have a haze. PC is the game's natural gamma showing proper detail in light and dark areas. The Xbox Ones, for whatever reason, have broken gamma settings leading to seriously dark output. That means bright areas are not as bright as they should be while you lose tons of detail in darker areas of the picture (black crush).
@ZuneGuy1118
@ZuneGuy1118 5 жыл бұрын
blacks are always crushed on Xbox. It looks really bad. If PC Gamers wanted to replicate that it would be very easy - but why would anyone want their games to look that dark.
@ChaosLegionaire
@ChaosLegionaire 5 жыл бұрын
@@RicochetForce That may be. I'm just not a fan of the lighting in the game at times.
@ChaosLegionaire
@ChaosLegionaire 5 жыл бұрын
@@ataksnajpera Predator monitors are usually pretty spot on. And I don't have issues with other games, so I'm gonna guess it's more relegated to this game specifically.
@GTAVREALISM
@GTAVREALISM 5 жыл бұрын
Does anyone remember the part of that DOA2 cutscene where Kasumi was naked in a jello mold thing? As a kid that blew my mind.
@RKIC
@RKIC 5 жыл бұрын
Doesn't the game have extremely detailed softbody physics? why no discussion of these aspects?
@VariantAEC
@VariantAEC 5 жыл бұрын
Because DF is in the EU and they might be thrown in jail for life just for discussing breast physics in a game. Ok it's not that bad in Europe. ...Yet!
@nickmotsarsky4382
@nickmotsarsky4382 5 жыл бұрын
Because those physics are silly AF. They are bouncing with the women just standing still.
@pachinkor83
@pachinkor83 5 жыл бұрын
Oh boy I miss being pumped about a DOA game. Thanks for this John ! DOA2/3/4 were all some of my favorite games for a while... I never felt DOA5 recaptured enough of what made me enjoy the series so much and well, the betas for DOA6 seemed fun enough but there's still something missing from the style. The PC version really does look like the way to go though if I decide to take a stab at it (I too picked up a 2080ti because a fool and his money are easily parted). Perhaps a DFretro is in the cards down the road for Dead or Alive (there's actually a ton of games to go through- DOA arcade, saturn, PS1, DOA++, Xbox DOA1ultimate, DOA2, DOA2JPps2, DOA2hardcore, DOA2 limited edition (jp DC), DOA2 ultimate, DOA3, DOA3 jp , DOA3 -w- booster, DOA4, DOA dimensions, DOA5, DOA5 Vita, DOA5 Last Round, DOA5 last round ps4/xb1/pc and now finally DOA6). I miss Itagaki :(
@odinsplaygrounds
@odinsplaygrounds 5 жыл бұрын
I have it on PC, but the lack of graphics options is annoying when gaming on a lower end machine, since it's quite demanding.
@arshenio45
@arshenio45 5 жыл бұрын
That's where consoles come in, good performance for an affordable price
@theanimerapper6351
@theanimerapper6351 5 жыл бұрын
@@arshenio45 you see the one s?
@odinsplaygrounds
@odinsplaygrounds 5 жыл бұрын
@@arshenio45 Yes and no. I have a laptop, I can only have portable machines due to me traveling a lot. A console can't replace that. Anyway, that's beside the point. I was pointing out how the graphics options in this game is severely limited on the PC for optimisation for different kind of hardware.
@Sorwah
@Sorwah 5 жыл бұрын
Is the PC version stuck with 7 or 8 frames of delay? Or are you just basing those findings off Twitter posts for the PS4 demo? In my experience the Steam version has no more than a 2 frame delay at worst, while the PS4 suffers from a noticeable 8 frame delay.
@Ammothief41
@Ammothief41 5 жыл бұрын
PC version input delay varies depending on the monitor refresh rates due to the full screen bug. 60hz monitor will have twice the input lag of a 144hz. Ps4 is usually the tournament standard too.
@kevanharriskh55
@kevanharriskh55 5 жыл бұрын
Having both a pro and a X I played both demo’s. Even though performance mode is at 1080p on both, the HDR on X gives it a great pop that looks awesome in 4K. Went with the X version and am completely satisfied. FinalVerdict is my tag if u wanna get it in!
@DreamcastFreak
@DreamcastFreak 5 жыл бұрын
Its crazy how good doa2 looks on DC! You should have shown the japanese limited edition. Higher poly counts, more stages, more costumes, slight change in color grading/ lighting. Hopefully you do a DFR on it soon!
@dark1x
@dark1x 5 жыл бұрын
Dan Baker Yeah, I was thinking of picking up a copy of that at some point. I only have the Us release currently.
@DreamcastFreak
@DreamcastFreak 5 жыл бұрын
@@dark1x fair enough. I bought mine brand new for 15 bucks on Amazon. Its shouldn't be too much more by now. That was like 3 years ago. I know a whole lot about the differences of each version if you have any questions. The rookervision comparison, while nice, was inaccurate. I would love to hear your thoughts on it.
@jspantonio8807
@jspantonio8807 Жыл бұрын
The xbox remake is even better
@lirfrank
@lirfrank 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting you found SoulCalibur to look more impressive, I feel exactly the opposite. Although I do enjoy both games visually.
@CarlitosWayTheOnlyWay
@CarlitosWayTheOnlyWay 5 жыл бұрын
Yup, I feel like DOA6 looks much better and much more detailed especially the stages. SC6 looks very meh to me
@Swickful
@Swickful 5 жыл бұрын
I remember soul caliber 2 looking gorgeous on the PS2. Especially the character models. Ahead of their time almost but 6 doesn't push anything. DOA 6 looks great.
@CarlitosWayTheOnlyWay
@CarlitosWayTheOnlyWay 5 жыл бұрын
@@Swickful SC2 was def ahead of its time just like the first SC. After 2, I felt like the series went very dull
@lirfrank
@lirfrank 5 жыл бұрын
@@CarlitosWayTheOnlyWay I agree. SC2 has a very memorable look.
@RicochetForce
@RicochetForce 5 жыл бұрын
Nah, SC6 definitely looks better. The materials are slightly better in SC6 but the real differentiating factor is how will they interact with lighting and shadow, and SC6 crushes DOA6 in that regard. As John said, DOA6's clothes look strangely flat and last gen especially when compared to SC6's.
@pelican-rl5yw
@pelican-rl5yw 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video John.
@evcdog
@evcdog 5 жыл бұрын
what is the point of comparing consoles with a graphics card that cost three times more
@XgamerdaveX
@XgamerdaveX 5 жыл бұрын
It’s a comparison
@singed420snowinit9
@singed420snowinit9 5 жыл бұрын
Because... It's a comparison to show what the best looks like? Why does that even need to be explained...
@rowanunderwood
@rowanunderwood 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Can you guys please add HDR to your lists of standard tests were appropriate? It was nice to hear which system are missing HDR support in this video!
@craiggatenby1161
@craiggatenby1161 5 жыл бұрын
For reference, a gtx 1060 6gb struggles to maintain 30 fps on lower settings than the xbox one x at 4k in this game
@killermoon635
@killermoon635 5 жыл бұрын
So ? Gtx 1060 is never meant to beat xbox one x. It still beats ps4 pro
@twistedoracle1144
@twistedoracle1144 5 жыл бұрын
Vram bottleneck maybe?
@craiggatenby1161
@craiggatenby1161 5 жыл бұрын
@@killermoon635 wasn't it? Most owners reckon it 'destroys' the one x
@WaterxDragon35
@WaterxDragon35 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, my GTX 1070 runs it best at 1440p with the rest of the settings maxed for a smooth 60fps. If I go to 4k, it plays like the One X at 4k. It hovers in the 47fps zone on average. Turning the other settings down gains an extra 3-5 fps but, it starts to get noticeable.
@craiggatenby1161
@craiggatenby1161 5 жыл бұрын
☝️Spotted the offended 1060 owner. Them's the facts, just like the majority of other recent games that run better on the x at the same settings and resolution, despite a massive processor disadvantage
@somecoder3054
@somecoder3054 5 жыл бұрын
Back when I worked in an arcade in London, I always put DOA2 on the Naomi cabinet. Unlike the console versions, it used the double direction hold system and a different sidestep system you couldn't change. But it was a blast and it looked gorgeous. If anyone has a Naomi, get this game for that motherboard.
@HeloisGevit
@HeloisGevit 5 жыл бұрын
Game looks fantastic on PC and a lot better than SC6, I own both. Been having a blast!
@tchitchouan
@tchitchouan 5 жыл бұрын
*FUCKING* *FINALLY* been asking this for a while now
@boredstudent
@boredstudent 5 жыл бұрын
So DOA6 is actually better on the PS4 Pro as far as consoles go. Well, at times like this I'm glad I have a PS4 Pro
@pflaffik
@pflaffik 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome review man, answered my questions and addressed my doubts. I need to replace my One with One X, thats for sure, i used to think i only needed an X for 4k gaming but now i see i really need it for 1080p fighting.
@roberttausig9170
@roberttausig9170 5 жыл бұрын
This is a joke. What do you have to render? Two fighters and the visible part of a 10x10m room. The performance should be _vastly_ higher.
@teehundeart
@teehundeart 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it doesn't look good at all. I'm shocked actually
@asturides
@asturides 5 жыл бұрын
agree, also the graphics are just OK, nothing impressive. It definitely needs a lot of optimization.
@PoloBoyPrince
@PoloBoyPrince 5 жыл бұрын
i think its not so simple as people make it out to be. also fighting games prioritize frame rate over graphics
@tombraider200571
@tombraider200571 5 жыл бұрын
Big oof... You have no idea how rendering works.
@vinceo.1262
@vinceo.1262 5 жыл бұрын
Liking the use of Christie's theme in the beginning there.
@gramsci1094
@gramsci1094 5 жыл бұрын
When you gonna do a Ninja Gaiden DF Retro!! we need it!!
@montygill2835
@montygill2835 5 жыл бұрын
My jaw almost dropped when I saw the graphics on the original Xbox for Ninja Gaiden.
@dark1x
@dark1x 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve had this in the cards for a long time. Definitely want to do it.
@PushStart_YT
@PushStart_YT 5 жыл бұрын
@@montygill2835 still the king of the hack n slash genre imo
@gramsci1094
@gramsci1094 5 жыл бұрын
@@dark1x Great news, there are so many versions of the original Xbox Ninja Gaiden I think it would be interesting to see how they stack up!
@WutipongWongsakuldej
@WutipongWongsakuldej 5 жыл бұрын
I guess you might not know this: DOA6 crashes on PC running AMD gpu (at least on Polaris and newer) in one particular arena. The workaround is to turn-off tesselation in the Radeon Software.
@previousslayer
@previousslayer 5 жыл бұрын
...aand that's weird o_O No patch from AMD yet?
@rocstarang5747
@rocstarang5747 5 жыл бұрын
Lol at the PC master race sticker 😁
@anotter_one
@anotter_one 5 жыл бұрын
Ryzen 5 2600 + RX 570 provides a rock solid 60 FPS with (for some unknown reason) the occasional drop on the opening cinematics.
@anotter_one
@anotter_one 5 жыл бұрын
@@gingataisen Guess I should have been more specific. I'm currently running it at 1080p.
@TheShawVMedia
@TheShawVMedia 5 жыл бұрын
(smacks lips).. They didn't even change the age to 99 in this review... amateurs. (Retro DOA fans will get this)
@AO17
@AO17 5 жыл бұрын
Boob physics 😊
@88Cbt
@88Cbt 5 жыл бұрын
Is this still an option in 6? Just curious 😏
@DreamcastFreak
@DreamcastFreak 5 жыл бұрын
@@88Cbt on or off. Its dumb, so its off for me
@Horos_de_Vega
@Horos_de_Vega 5 жыл бұрын
John, you’re the best. We love you.
@montygill2835
@montygill2835 5 жыл бұрын
Fighting games should always be 60fps.
@teehundeart
@teehundeart 5 жыл бұрын
True
@alinepiroutek8932
@alinepiroutek8932 5 жыл бұрын
And racing
@Kira-qc4qi
@Kira-qc4qi 5 жыл бұрын
Every game without exception should always be 60fps+
@Kira-qc4qi
@Kira-qc4qi 5 жыл бұрын
@Chrono . please tell me which
@woodearthdvd
@woodearthdvd 5 жыл бұрын
John, Thanks for video. I believe this is the Dynasty Warrior 9 engine. That at least have a lot more graphics option on the PC. Can you comment if there any improvements or missing features (such as AO and reflections) between the 2 games?
@cakeisamadeupdrug6134
@cakeisamadeupdrug6134 5 жыл бұрын
5:41 I want all Japanese developers to take a course on dynamics and kinematics OR AT LEAST WATCH A REAL LIFE WOMAN WALK >_
@Yerinjibbang
@Yerinjibbang 5 жыл бұрын
:D
@quezgreen8422
@quezgreen8422 4 жыл бұрын
i like it like that
@just4eternity
@just4eternity 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the bonus 💙
@ethanbrown5253
@ethanbrown5253 5 жыл бұрын
GET WOKE GO BROKE
@DarkReturns1
@DarkReturns1 5 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, was waiting for this comparison!
@DM-dy9oe
@DM-dy9oe 5 жыл бұрын
Figital Doundry
@Fendera1
@Fendera1 5 жыл бұрын
Bajon Jsorn
@DM-dy9oe
@DM-dy9oe 5 жыл бұрын
Fendera I like it
@b85870
@b85870 3 жыл бұрын
I just picked up 6 and its hella fun a fighting game hasnt hooked me since virtua fighter 2 and tekken 3 im hype af
@twistedoracle1144
@twistedoracle1144 5 жыл бұрын
Using the Rtx 2080 ti is really pointless. It’s a Titan class card and only the wealthy gamers can afford it. If you are going to compare with PC , please use something that is mid range like Gtx 1060, Rx 580. Any comparison beyond the Rtx 2060 is pointless imo.
@VaunShiz
@VaunShiz 5 жыл бұрын
Yea PC gamers in the comments would like you to believe everyone's running a Ti card 😂
@singed420snowinit9
@singed420snowinit9 5 жыл бұрын
The whole point is to show what the best looks like, price is completely irrelevant.
@Nik-ff3tu
@Nik-ff3tu 5 жыл бұрын
PC is a natural choice for DoA because you can play on a monitor with low latency. And you can use any controller as a bonus
@fioredeutchmark
@fioredeutchmark 5 жыл бұрын
Nik apart from if you want to play it with other people...
@fahimmohimen1338
@fahimmohimen1338 5 жыл бұрын
Playing it on my gtx 860m laptop now. However it feels like a very different game after itagaki left after DOA4. Animations are way less fluid as there feels like blank frames from the start of the limb movement to the finish. I am playing on very low res and yes I do get a steady 60 fps.
@noobyng
@noobyng 5 жыл бұрын
Fahim Mohimen wow a rare one I also have 860m laptop haha Been playing lots of games without major issues
@tHeplAyiER
@tHeplAyiER 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for yet another detailed analysis! :)
@Myevo8u007
@Myevo8u007 5 жыл бұрын
Why not 1800p on X and 1440 p on pro with better frame rate and higher textures?
@PantherCrane
@PantherCrane 5 жыл бұрын
The Pro can’t handle this game in 1440p..
@benjaminphilp720
@benjaminphilp720 5 жыл бұрын
@@PantherCrane the pro can do higher then 1080p a game like horizon zero dawn blow this game out the door with a higher resolution and that a demanding game unlike this garbage
@phtskllz
@phtskllz 5 жыл бұрын
Great! Thnx! Is it coming to switch though?
@XBX1MASTER
@XBX1MASTER 5 жыл бұрын
And.....what's even the difference amonst the Pro version. You can choose 1080 or 1080 lol
@vandammage1747
@vandammage1747 5 жыл бұрын
No hdr and no 4K hud lol
@Turniplord
@Turniplord 5 жыл бұрын
Visual quality. The second option adds better AA and more details in the environments and characters which are in the 4k mode on Xbox. Yet on the PS4 it still runs at a solid 60fps with them enabled
@phil_7544
@phil_7544 5 жыл бұрын
Better on PC. Like all Xbox games. Thanks Phil.
@vandammage1747
@vandammage1747 5 жыл бұрын
@@Turniplord , moron...4K is 4x more demanding than 1080p. You didn't even get a 4K hud or hdr lmao
@VaunShiz
@VaunShiz 5 жыл бұрын
@@Turniplord slightly better assets on the PS4 pro and no 4k anything so yea one X destroys as usual
@DanielAlvarez-iw8hr
@DanielAlvarez-iw8hr 5 жыл бұрын
4k Graphics mode on xbox one version is for Xbox Two backwards compatability. It was not meant for Xbox one x but for Xbox Two. I called this a a month ago. I kept saying this. Even John agrees with me at 12:47. Thank you John
@ultimatesol
@ultimatesol 5 жыл бұрын
I don't get how Xbox One X couldn't handle with the "high graphics" settings.
@Dr.WhetFarts
@Dr.WhetFarts 5 жыл бұрын
because it sucks.
@420sakura1
@420sakura1 5 жыл бұрын
@@Dr.WhetFarts not like your PS4 pro doing any better.
@pflaffik
@pflaffik 5 жыл бұрын
Its consistent with other games, everyone who are even a little bit serious about racing games will notice that Forza games and whatever games that includes extra support for Xbox X cannot handle graphic priority setting without choppy motion. But in return it looks great in 1080p, its almost impossible to notice the difference if not looking at stills. Doa5LR on the regular Xbox One had to be at 720p, then 1080p60 is undeniable a huge improvement.
@alef321
@alef321 5 жыл бұрын
dead or alive 2 looks insane to this day.
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